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swatmc
03-04-2010, 03:30 PM
Seriously people.

I mean if you have Obama on one side and Ron Paul on the other, how would it play out?

What could Barack Obama possible "attack" Ron Paul for?

RedStripe
03-04-2010, 03:34 PM
Obama would just dismiss Ron Paul as holding an "extremist" view of economics and drone on about the importance of regulation "we need meat inspectors" etc.

silverhandorder
03-04-2010, 03:39 PM
Obama would dismiss what Paul says as untrue. He did that with republicans he argued with.

Juan McCain
03-04-2010, 03:44 PM
Obama would argue that you could fund new government programs by better efficiency in government and cutting out loopholes.

Ron Paul would be shaking his head alot . . .
until he got his chance to refute the Obama claims.

It would then be a blowout.

Todd
03-04-2010, 03:50 PM
It depends.

Who's running the debate?

If it's Fox and it's a 1 hour debate......then Obama get's about 45 minutes of talk time and all the relevant questions.

Ron get's 15 minutes and questions from Carl Cameron about 911 truth, if he's relevant, and why he's on the stage with a great guy like Obama.

bruce leeroy
03-04-2010, 03:57 PM
Obama would just dismiss Ron Paul as holding an "extremist" view of economics and drone on about the importance of regulation "we need meat inspectors" etc.
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yokna7
03-04-2010, 03:58 PM
I still feel that the majority of the Obama voters were and still ignorant of his stance on the issues. Sooooo when Paul dismantles him on the war and the war of drugs many of his younger supporters would be mortified.

RedStripe
03-04-2010, 03:58 PM
cool username
red stripe jamacain lager rules!!!

Yea I just so happened to be sipping on one when I registered on this forum, hence the name. :) And yes, it does rule.


Damn I'm thirsty now.

TheBlackPeterSchiff
03-04-2010, 04:04 PM
He would say Ron Paul represents and old played out way of thinking that will bring us back to the stone age.

yokna7
03-04-2010, 04:06 PM
Ron Paul Closing statement: "Are you better off than you were 100 years ago?"

Thats my ol played out saying.

The Patriot
03-04-2010, 04:09 PM
Obama would probably stutter a lot. He would come out and attack Ron as fiscally irresponsible(I know, laughable, but he will suggest cutting government will cause harm), and blame Ron Paul's philosophy for causing the economic meltdown. Ron Paul will start talking about the Federal Reserve and the massive debt obligations we have for our entitlements. Paul will probably also mention how if we didn't have the largest military budget in History and how if we cut it we could fund entitlements and ween people off the system over time. Obama will say in a more sophisticated politicianny way that Paul is crazy and what he wants to do is impossible.

yokna7
03-04-2010, 04:11 PM
He would say Ron Paul represents and old played out way of thinking that will bring us back to the stone age.

That is what Carter tried to do to Reagan..............and it didn't work.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13547.html

swatmc
03-04-2010, 07:59 PM
This is the kind of stuff that Ron Paul's campaign has to think about.

The revolution shouldn't JUST be about principle, it should focus on WINNING debates and elections.

low preference guy
03-04-2010, 08:09 PM
i think it's unpredictable. remember that Ron won't prepare for it, but that doesn't mean he won't perform well.

ctiger2
03-04-2010, 08:20 PM
These "debates" are ludicrous to me. I want to see the 2 candidates sit down with a moderator and really flesh out the issues over a 1-2 hour discussion period. The 1 min answers just baffle me. It's like sound bite city.

swatmc
03-04-2010, 08:25 PM
These "debates" are ludicrous to me. I want to see the 2 candidates sit down with a moderator and really flesh out the issues over a 1-2 hour discussion period. The 1 min answers just baffle me. It's like sound bite city.

Unfortunately, Ron Paul has to embrace the "30 second attention span" mentality.

This is politics people, you have to play the game.

If Ron Paul says one thing during that debate that really sticks with people, it has to be a very short and memorable line.

Anyone remember George Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton's campaign? The only thing that anybody remembers is "Read my lips, no new taxes."

A good 5 second line can make or break a president.

That's why "End the Fed" is a good start.

Theocrat
03-04-2010, 08:27 PM
Congressman Paul would be doing a whole lot of this:

http://www.libertymaven.com/wp-content/uploads/paulownsmccain.gif

silus
03-04-2010, 08:31 PM
A debate would play out the same as Ron Paul in every other debate he is in. They will attempt to dismiss and ridicule him. Standard practice.


Ron Paul Closing statement: "Are you better off than you were 100 years ago?"

Thats my ol played out saying.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say? Obama wasn't alive 100 years ago.

1836er
03-04-2010, 09:52 PM
A debate would play out the same as Ron Paul in every other debate he is in. They will attempt to dismiss and ridicule him. Standard practice.


I'm not sure what you're trying to say? Obama wasn't alive 100 years ago.

That line was freakin' brilliant... had me literally ROFL.

It references on one hand Reagan's famous debate line against Carter in 1980 "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago".. but instead references 100 years ago (prior to the establishment of the FED, most of the worst parts of the Progressive movement, the New Deal, the Great Society, plus a century of warfare and a cold war) when the United States government (by comparison to today anyway) still largely abided by the Constitution.

Chester Copperpot
03-04-2010, 10:06 PM
These "debates" are ludicrous to me. I want to see the 2 candidates sit down with a moderator and really flesh out the issues over a 1-2 hour discussion period. The 1 min answers just baffle me. It's like sound bite city.

We need to create an Internet-wide presidential debate. That way the alternate media gives a real fair and balanced view.

RM918
03-04-2010, 10:09 PM
These "debates" are ludicrous to me. I want to see the 2 candidates sit down with a moderator and really flesh out the issues over a 1-2 hour discussion period. The 1 min answers just baffle me. It's like sound bite city.

It would be the end of the political news industry if you could actually flesh out arguments rather than being able to reduce things to small, easily twisted sound-bytes.

Juan McCain
03-05-2010, 09:48 AM
http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/obamaanswer.jpg

RedStripe
03-05-2010, 10:23 AM
Ron Paul Closing statement: "Are you better off than you were 100 years ago?"

Thats my ol played out saying.

That'd be a great way to destroy your campaign.

DapperDan
03-05-2010, 12:12 PM
At the end of the debate, Obama will call for his royal guards and be escorted to his chariot where his Queen will be waiting to be indulged in the serfs money.

Ron Paul will definitely shake his head a lot :)

Elwar
03-05-2010, 12:15 PM
Screw a debate between Obama and Ron Paul.


What would a debate between Ron Paul and Rand Paul be like?

That would be fun to watch. :D

Bman
03-05-2010, 12:19 PM
Ron Paul "We need to cut back on government and get our spending under control, let free markets be free, and allow people to live their lives the best way they see fit"

Obama "We need to tax the living shit out of everyone, print as much money as we can and make sure that we head towards a completely communist/facist state, and allow people to live their lives the best way I see fit."

daviddee
03-05-2010, 12:31 PM
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KramerDSP
03-05-2010, 12:38 PM
Dr Paul - Rambling quickly to make sure he fills his 60 seconds of allotted time.

BHO - Read from teleprompter all the feel good stuff he can in the 10 minutes he is allowed to rebut

"Ron, Ms. Beverly Welshire from Indianapolis, Indiana, would disagree with your statement. Her husband, Tom, was diagnosed with a serious......."

Obama always does that kind of speech.

payme_rick
03-05-2010, 12:43 PM
RP: "I just don't think we can keep spending like we are, and on top of that start pushing money into some government run health care system, it's just absurd"

BO: "All the naysayers will say nay (10 second pause to look around the room with his nose in the air) but I'd ask them (5 second pause) to talk to Miss Williamsonshire, down in Alabama, who was diagnosed with diabetes (4 second pause) just weeks after being drug out in the middle of the road by her neighbor's rather large tom-cat... She went to the doctor for a check-up (10 second pause) and (2 second pause) was (1 second pause) told that her feet stank, and she wouldn't be able to receive any type of care (8 second pause) or prescriptions (10 second pause)..... CHANGE!"

specsaregood
03-05-2010, 12:57 PM
Paul: Mr. President, you have had 4 years to right the wrongs of people in jail for nonviolent, victimless crimes as part of this immoral, unconstitutional, unending "war on drugs". A war that unjustly targets and victimizes minorities. And crimes that if I may remind you, you have admitted in your books to participating in yourself in your younger years. Many of these prisoners are no different than modern day slaves working for meager wages for the benefit of private corporations and government while living in terrible conditions. It took a Republican to free the slaves last time and when I am elected, By God I intend to free them again.

Elwar
03-05-2010, 01:00 PM
"Ron, Ms. Beverly Welshire from Indianapolis, Indiana, would disagree with your statement. Her husband, Tom, was diagnosed with a serious......."

Obama always does that kind of speech.

Also:

"I believe that the Constitution limits the government and feel that taxes are horrible and we should cut spending drastically.......HOWEVER....<insert what he really believes>"

Slutter McGee
03-05-2010, 02:28 PM
Obama: Hope and Change my Friends. With the Hope you placed in me we have made Change, Change that makes us Hope for a better future. Hope that promises change. Make no mistake, Change is finally possible, because of Hope.

Paul: Change IS possible because of Obama. Change being the value we get back for every dollar the Federal Government steals from us. Other than that? Just what have you changed.

Obama: Well we Tried to pass socialized health care. And we tried to get our of Iraq. We tried to close Guantanamo. Ladies and Gentlemen, make no mistake. Hope is happening.

Paul: Try Not, Do or Do Not.

Obama: Make no mistake, my opponent is a two foot tall muppet.

Paul: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11.

Obama: What are you doing Dr. Paul.

Paul: Trying to get elected by saying nothing of substance. I think it might work. But I am not very good at it.

Obama: Yeah, you suck at it. Start rambling if you will about Von Mises. The American people are not ready for logic. They will ignore you because logic does not bring hope and change to america. Dr. Paul...Join us, and we can rule the world together. Come to the darkside.

Paul: I bet you have a red lightsaber at home. Mine is blue.

Obama: James Earl Jones is black. Are you a racist? Seriously though, can we talk about something serious. Jar Jar is a ***.

Paul: I wish you wouldn't use that word.

Obama: Why not, you called Borat a *****.

Paul: He was a *****. Whats wrong with *****.

Moderator: Thankyou for that wonderful debate.

That is exactly what it would be like.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Cdn_for_liberty
03-05-2010, 03:15 PM
Obama would accuse Ron Paul of being a threat to many people on government programs and Ron Paul would be like *laugh* "there you go again."

Depressed Liberator
03-05-2010, 03:48 PM
Obama would likely argue that social programs and other junk are necessary and that regulations are necessary because they keep us safe, and he'd likely seem like he has a better point since the precedence of these things have become so ingrained in our society, that thinking of a world without them seem impossible and those who do think it would work would be crazy. Paul would likely make a good argument as to why he is wrong, though Obama would just keep bringing up the subject that it won't work. This always annoys me, like when they say deregulation doesn't work despite there having been a lot of regulation before, and then saying you're crazy when you said there needed to be less before... Confusing stuff.

satchelmcqueen
03-05-2010, 05:39 PM
ild love to see this debate, but sadly it will never happen. i hope im dead wrong though. it would be like ric flair vs hulk hogan in 1989. flair (paul) would crush hogan (obama), then go feed his underage zombies.

there would be tons of "uhh, umm, you see" and that kind of crap. paul would then be like ...well heres how it would sound exactly.
...
---------------------------
anderson cooper: ac
ron paul:rp
barack obama: ass
---------------------------

ac: mr obama, your majesty and god of the ages, would you end the war and bring our troops home?

ass: umm ...thats a very good question anderson.... i will bring the troops home, errr... but first we must exit with grace,.... and allow the people of iraq to have their country back with honor.

rp:???

ass: for if we leave to soon...we will bring on a ummm... a massive ....new set of problems that uhh...set things back to where they were 10 years ago.

ac: mr paul would you like to respond?

rp: i would bring our troops home immediately from not only iraq, but from the other 100 plus countries around the world. we have no reason to be there. they are not a threat to our national security. all we are doing is wasting hundreds of billions of dollars that could be used here at home to help pay our debt down and also to help those who are less fortunate in our own country. there is absolutely no reason for us to be over there. we should mind our own business.

ac: ??whuutt?

ass: ??

ac: mr paul, would you reduce the income tax?

rp: i would do away with it and replace it with nothing.

ac: our lord of heavens and top rbi talent mr obama, would you reduce the income tax?

ass: i would leave it alone. i will raise taxes on the top 5% income earners. then down the road, if i had to, ild raise taxes on everyone...wait yes i will raise taxes on everyone, just in an underhanded way by means of new or higher taxes on current items.

ac: mr paul, how do you respond?

rp: EDIT!!!:::(the rest of the forum can finish this... i had a funny thought when i started, but now its gone, and im not about to erase this......_

RM918
03-05-2010, 05:43 PM
If it ever occurred, it would be unimaginable.

KramerDSP
03-05-2010, 05:45 PM
ild love to see this debate, but sadly it will never happen. i hope im dead wrong though. it would be like ric flair vs hulk hogan in 1989. flair (paul) would crush hogan (obama), then go feed his underage zombies.

Bad analogy, only because NWO Hogan comes back 10 years later and whups Flair's ass. :)

KramerDSP
03-05-2010, 05:46 PM
YouTube - The Difference: Barack Obama & Ron Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8)

satchelmcqueen
03-05-2010, 08:08 PM
Bad analogy, only because NWO Hogan comes back 10 years later and whups Flair's ass. :)

1989!!!:mad:
:D

TheEvilDetector
03-06-2010, 01:10 AM
FOX: Mr President would you care to tell the audience about your foreign policy plans?

OBAMA: I would like to dominate the entire world through endless war with taxpayers money, whether they like it or not.

FOX: Mr President I will remind you that we are live, can you please elaborate on your answer?

OBAMA: Oh yes, indeed, dear citizens. I am commited to keeping US safe against terrorists and I carry out this duty in a fiscally responsible fashion.

FOX: Congressman Paul, is it true that you think the government has murdered its own citizens on 911

PAUL: Well, I haven't seen any proof of that. I'd like to see an honest and transparent investigation because too many questions have been left unanswered, particularly from victim's families. I think the record shows that the Government does not always investigate itself very well.

FOX: So you are saying you believe that the government did 911?

PAUL: No, what I mea..

FOX: Excuse me, Congressman Paul, you are out of time, it is time for Mr President to rebut your extremist comments.

OBAMA: I do not hold the extremist views that Congressman Paul has in regards to events of 911. I believe that we need to stay vigilant against terrorism, they hate our freedom

FOX: Yes, our polls have shown that 99% of our viewers agree with Mr President.

*Sound of Applause*

FOX: Well Mr President, as we wrap our debate tonight, would you like to say anything in closing? You have 5 minutes remaning, Congressman Paul has exhausted his time.

OBAMA: *** yada yada *** yada yada (used car sold) *** yada yada *** (another used car sold) *** yada yada yada

FOX: Thanks everyone for coming to this debate. Have a nice day. Don't forget to tune into FOX NEWS for fair and objective news.

andrewh817
03-06-2010, 01:17 AM
Is the debate the 2012 presidential debate? If so they're going to ask retarded questions, and not allow the candidates to ask each other questions. If this is just a private debate, Obama won't accept, but assuming he does he'll dodge every question with his utilitarian socialist utopia rhetoric.

reardenstone
03-06-2010, 09:59 AM
Lmfao


ild love to see this debate, but sadly it will never happen. I hope im dead wrong though. It would be like ric flair vs hulk hogan in 1989. Flair (paul) would crush hogan (obama), then go feed his underage zombies.

There would be tons of "uhh, umm, you see" and that kind of crap. Paul would then be like ...well heres how it would sound exactly.
...
---------------------------
anderson cooper: Ac
ron paul:rp
barack obama: Ass
---------------------------

ac: Mr obama, your majesty and god of the ages, would you end the war and bring our troops home?

Ass: Umm ...thats a very good question anderson.... I will bring the troops home, errr... But first we must exit with grace,.... And allow the people of iraq to have their country back with honor.

Rp:???

Ass: For if we leave to soon...we will bring on a ummm... A massive ....new set of problems that uhh...set things back to where they were 10 years ago.

Ac: Mr paul would you like to respond?

Rp: I would bring our troops home immediately from not only iraq, but from the other 100 plus countries around the world. We have no reason to be there. They are not a threat to our national security. All we are doing is wasting hundreds of billions of dollars that could be used here at home to help pay our debt down and also to help those who are less fortunate in our own country. There is absolutely no reason for us to be over there. We should mind our own business.

Ac: ??whuutt?

Ass: ??

Ac: Mr paul, would you reduce the income tax?

Rp: I would do away with it and replace it with nothing.

Ac: Our lord of heavens and top rbi talent mr obama, would you reduce the income tax?

Ass: I would leave it alone. I will raise taxes on the top 5% income earners. Then down the road, if i had to, ild raise taxes on everyone...wait yes i will raise taxes on everyone, just in an underhanded way by means of new or higher taxes on current items.

Ac: Mr paul, how do you respond?

Rp: Edit!!!:::(the rest of the forum can finish this... I had a funny thought when i started, but now its gone, and im not about to erase this......_