(Hypothetical) If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination in 2012, who should be his VP

[The Patriot]

I think Gary Johnson. He is a libertarian Republican and has eight years executive experience as governor of New Mexico. He seems like the only politically experienced pro liberty candidate other than Paul right now. He also doesn't have baggage and is a fresh face to Washington politics. He is young, so he can be a counter weight to Paul's old age(which some, not including me, view as a bad thing). Previously, I was thinking of Ron Paul running with say a Walter Jones or a Mark Sanford. But the ticket needs balance, you can't have two congressmen or they will attack you for not bringing executive experience. And well, we know what happened to Sanford.

[michaelwise]

The Judge.

[Brett]

Paul Ryan.

Then it'd be the Paul/Ryan ticket. 4 first names for American's future.

[Juan McCain]

Pat Buchanan

He's a conservative that has ran for President before . . .
he'd make a good VP spokesperson that I think would get along with RP well.

[FrankRep]

Matt Collins

[The Patriot]

The Judge.

I would like Andrew Napolitano as attorney General. He could stop prosecuting federal drug laws and effectively eliminate the Patriot Act by refusing to allow federal official to conduct searches without warrants.

[speciallyblend]

kiesha tik tok;) seriously anyone but a Neo-con, I agree with Patriot;) Paul/Johnson 2012 in the gop ,if the gop fails to listen then Paul/Johnson 2012 outside of the gop and let the gop alienate themselves!!

[Condor Bastadon]

Glenn Beck

/joke

[muzzled dogg]

i'd take edwin vieira as a.g. over nepalitano easy

[akforme]

Paul Ryan.

Then it'd be the Paul/Ryan ticket. 4 first names for American's future.

I hope your kidding. Paul Ryan is a big government neocon. I can't stand that guy, he speaks one thing and votes the complete opposite.

[John of Des Moines]

Matt Collins

A v.p. has to be photogenic.

Rand Paul would be a good choice.

[DamianTV]

If anyone even mentions Sarah Palin or Pat Buchanan, I'll kick em in the teeth. We dont need any more extremist or zionist influence in the office.

[Immortal Technique]

Judge Andrew Napolitano :P

[Juan McCain]

If anyone even mentions Sarah Palin or Pat Buchanan, I'll kick em in the teeth. We dont need any more extremist or zionist influence in the office.

As everyone around here was all hot for Parah Sailin' in 2007 as a VP mate, huh.

But Pat Buchanan really does get a bit of a bum rap as an anti-semetic, doesn't he? Just like Ron Paul does.


A v.p. has to be photogenic.


The bar has not been set very high for that requirement of recent.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/cheney01.jpg

[payme_rick]

Paul Ryan.



Nolan Ryan...

seriously, I don't know... good question... what about that guy from Ohio? I believe he's going to run as an indy already, but would he go all-in with RP?

I believe the two running together may have been discussed here before?

[squarepusher]

Glenn Beck

/joke

+1

[SevenEyedJeff]

I like a Paul/Traficant ticket.

"If Paulfican't do it, ain't no one can do it."

[KramerDSP]

Paul Ryan.

Then it'd be the Paul/Ryan ticket. 4 first names for American's future.

If Paul Ryan was the Veep, Ron Paul wouldn't make it to Inauguration.

Paul's veep would most likely have to be younger, and perhaps a woman.

Paul/Medina? :D

[KramerDSP]

I like a Paul/Traficant ticket.

"If Paulfican't do it, ain't no one can do it."

The IRS's worst possible nightmare. Ron Paul PLUS Trafficant. LOL

[aravoth]

Ghemminger

[catdd]

Napolitano

[silus]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

[aravoth]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

but he's a big government socialist

[haaaylee]

Sarah Palin!

Oh wait, that says "2012" not "2008"

Sometimes i forget what year it is.


:D

[Bucjason]

Me , of course

[Agorism]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

If Paul were dumb enough to pick Kucinich, then he really shouldn't be running for the GOP nomination to begin with.

...Maybe Kucinich could be secretary of defense or something.

[Kotin]

Walter Williams

[CGeoffrion]

Me , of course

+1

[JVParkour]

Jacob Hornberger

[Flash]

Gary Johnson

[silus]

If Paul were dumb enough to pick Kucinich, then he really shouldn't be running for the GOP nomination to begin with.

The problems this country faces are deeper than simple political philosphy. It is the ability for those philosophies to be applied! That is first the problem.

Something people here and in the media hardly ever recognize is that Ron Paul being President does not mean we will see his vision realized. It does not mean we will become anywhere near libertarian. What it means is a slowdown and possible reversal of trends that have slowly engulfed Washington.

And so what this country needs at this moment are not necessarily people who agree politically, because we are not yet at the application phase. We are at the confrontation stage, the challenging status quo stage, the reversal stage, the 'I may get shot for doing this' phase. And during those times you need people who have proven over time to be strong, honest individuals that cannot be corrupted. You need people you can trust in a fight. And since you are dumb enough to not recognize it, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are natural allies in congress and good friends, united by the threat of a greater opponent. In another world, in another time, they might be arch rivals. But not here, and not now.

[Koz]

The problems this country faces are deeper than simple political philosphy. It is the ability for those philosophies to be applied! That is first the problem.

Something people here and in the media hardly ever recognize is that Ron Paul being President does not mean we will see his vision realized. It does not mean we will become anywhere near libertarian. What it means is a slowdown and possible reversal of trends that have slowly engulfed Washington.

And so what this country needs at this moment are not necessarily people who agree politically, because we are not yet at the application phase. We are at the confrontation stage, the challenging status quo stage, the reversal stage, the 'I may get shot for doing this' phase. And during those times you need people who have proven over time to be strong, honest individuals that cannot be corrupted. You need people you can trust in a fight. And since you are dumb enough to not recognize it, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are natural allies in congress and good friends, united by the threat of a greater opponent. In another world, in another time, they might be arch rivals. But not here, and not now.

Then go ahed and lern us what yer talkin' bout.

[BDR]

If Schiff wins CT senate, Paul/Schiff 2012?

[jmdrake]

Sheriff Mack.

[Andrew Ryan]

Mitt Romney j/k

[Stary Hickory]

Rand Paul

Paul/Paul 2012

[Juan McCain]

I'll guess Kucinich is for a bigger government - including healthcare - so I don't see it.

Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA)

He is pretty vocal against the Obama troop build up and understands
national security can be accomplished without troop deployments,
as did Ronald Reagan.
He understands the border state issues/politics going on . . .

California could go GOP with Paul/Rohrabacher - a big prize for Republicans in a 2012 Presidential election.

Rohrabacher : "The debt that America is piling up is not just alarming, it is suicidal.
A decision to send US troops to Afghanistan will cost money - lots of it - and lives."
November 17, 2009 on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives

[Timbo]

Paul / Paul

I think the ad potential of a father / son ticket would be great.

[satchelmcqueen]

rand paul

"father and son II...only this time its honest"

[ctiger2]

1. Jim Traficant
2. Andrew Napolitano
3. Sheriff Mack
4. Rand Paul
5. Gary Johnson

[silus]

I'll guess Kucinich is for a bigger government - including healthcare - so I don't see it.
I'll guess you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Juan McCain]

I'll guess you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Your right - so fucking educate me and explain it.

[Juan McCain]

Please all sign Dennis Kucinich's petition . . . .

Establishing Health Care As A Civil Right
http://healthcare.kucinich.us/petition/

Yeah, we'll all get right on that.

Sounds to me that Dennis Kucinich is a crazy socialist . . .
but does anybuddy know how he is going to vote on NObamaCare ?

[The Patriot]

I'll guess you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Kucinich doesn't seem to know what he is talking about. He was for the auto bailouts. he wants a million people to retire and take social security benefits early so supposedly 1 million jobs can be created. He also wants a public central bank controlled by the congress. He is for high tariffs, an estate tax, farm subsidies, gun bans, the UN and a plethora of bad things that would alienate right wing and independent voters. If he actually attained any kind of real power, our country would become like Venezuela.

[BuddyRey]

Tom Woods!

[Anti Federalist]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

Kade's sock puppet account.

:D

[Anti Federalist]

Ventura.

Judge Napolitano for AG

[Slutter McGee]

I like Walter Williams personally. If the mood of the country is still focused on fiscal issues then I would like Gary Johnson. If the mood of the country has focused back on social issues, then I think it would be a poor choice politically.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[t0rnado]

Michael Badnarik

[Anti Federalist]

Michael Badnarik

Winnah!

[Slutter McGee]

Michael Badnarik

He would be one of my dream candidates. But it gives Ron Paul nothing poltically.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[fj45lvr]

go "bucketlist" and take Walter Williams....or one of the mises fellows...the judge would be great too.

[jlaker]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

I'm glad you posted what i was thinking!:D

[silus]

Your right - so fucking educate me and explain it.
As I said, it was just a guess. But it looks like I was right.


If [Kucinich] actually attained any kind of real power, our country would become like Venezuela.
If Kucinich was president you wouldn't be thinking of the presidency as a dictatorship. I don't think you realize what concerns must be addressed before you start to think in terms of policy, but the way you responded should give you a hint.

[hotbrownsauce]

Considering a VP pretty much has no responsibility/power. I would base it on who would be the most helpful to Paul while he was in office. I think Napolitano would be a good call. If not him then I'd suggest Michael Badnarik then Chuck Baldwin then Schiff or Gary Johnson. I think his best shot to win the Presidency would be with Napolitano or Johnson or maybe even Badnarik. (I can't believe I forgot Ventura!!! I'd probably place him on the ladder end of the list)

[silus]

Chuck Baldwin can't keep religion out of his politics, but more disturbing to me considering he is a pastor, he can't keep politics out of his religion. I'd give him ambassadorship to the Vatican or something.

[Imperial]

The smartest move for Ron Paul is to find a general or admiral who backs his foreign policy. This is the pre-eminent area where Obama can outmanouver him and appear as a "centrist" or where a third party rebellion can rise up among neo-cons on hawkism. It also gives disciplined credibility to the ticket. Maybe Admiral William Fallon?

Alternatively, although less seductive electorally, Gary Johnson would be an effective pick. Works to more aggressively target liberals and progressives, also targets New Mexico as a battleground state, and gives an executive's experience to the ticket.

[__27__]

Ron Paul's VP should be..........Ron Paul.

[Chester Copperpot]

michael badnarik

bingo!

[akforme]

Ventura.

Judge Napolitano for AG


I kinda like that. I like Jesse even tho I don't agree with him 100%, he's got the balls to say what needs to be said and call people on their bullshit. Plus he'd be a great assassination insurance.

But I don't know if it would be a good political move.

[White Knight]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

He supports a national handgun ban. For that, I couldn't support him. He does understand the Shadow Government and New World Order though.

[psi2941]

My pick
P: Ron Paul
VP: any one without a neo con view is fine. but prefer Rand Paul because incase Ron Paul dies(he is getting old).
Secretary of Defense: Dennis Kucinich
FED: Peter Schiff (this slot first)
IRS: Irwin Schiff (he would get a pardon from Ron Paul)
Secretary of treasury: Peter Schiff (but if he can't get the FED position)
Attorney General: Napolitano (He be bumped to supreme court as soon as there is an opening)

[devil21]

Should we really be discussing this right now? I remember this same thread years ago and friggin Sarah Palin was the "choice". Give me a break.

[RyanRSheets]

Nobody even mentioned Thomas Woods?

[Krugerrand]

Easy choice ... John Mackey. (CEO of Whole Foods)

Executive experience where it counts ... in the real world.
A convert to Austrian Economics from socialism.

[Elwar]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

Ok...he's not a socialist.


He's a communist.

According to World Socialist Website (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/oct2003/corr-o13.shtml):
"Take Kucinich first. As mayor of Cleveland...., he represented one of the most ;left; elements in the Democratic Party during the heyday of the radical protest movement. He was closely allied with the Stalinists of the CPUSA (Communist Party USA), who still had significant influence in the working class of Cleveland, particularly in such unions as the UE and UAW."

[nandnor]

nvm

[Captain Shays]

I like Walter Williams to help dissipate some of the racist accusations about Ron Paul in the last election and of course because he's a hard core Constitutionalist.

Gary Johnson is way to divisive with all kinds of baggage.

We must also consider Ron Paul's attempt to change the Republican Party from within and bring the more libertarian Republicans into the mix so believe it or not, I like Jim Demint for that reason. He gives Republican creds to Ron and the Republican Party couldn't continue to label him as a ""libertarian" as if he's not a member of the Republican Party for the past 20 years.

If you guys want to certainly lose the election then go ahead and pick Jesse Ventura.

Pat Buchanan would be a great choice for policy, Republican creds, small govt etc but it would raise the hairy eyeball again about racism even though we all know neither of them are racists and both have been given a bumb rap on that issue. We just can't go there if we're serious about actually winning the election in the event that RP gets to the level of a nomination or close to it.

Sarah Palin was tainted by neocons as soon as she said yes to McCain but back in 08 she may have been a good choice for RP had he been nominated.


I have said this before and will say it again and again and again.


I think that as soon as RP makes the decision to run for president, he should pick his VP, his AG his SC choice and all his other cabinet members and then they can ALL run. ALL of them will be out on the campaign trail spreading the message while campaigning.

They wouldn't be campaigning for Ron Paul and neither would Ron Paul but they and we would be campaigning for a return to Constitutional principles, non-interventionist foreign policy and sound money. By announcing his choices even before he gets the nomination it takes the heat off of him alone and forces the mainstream media and those he is running against to come to terms with those values. The values I am talking about are the same between ALL of us and his picks. There are no lies so we wouldn't have to worry about what is being said simply because they are honest, steady, consistent values and policies and the only way we would have to worry is when someone gets off message by lying which is what ALL the other candidates do. They lie about their policies being good for America or Constitutionally sound and they lie about the economy.

BY picking his cabinet members and VP way before he gets the nomination those choices can then gang up on his competition and it wouldn't be Ron Paul against all the other Republicans by himself like it was before. When Rudy and McCain and Romney try to laugh at him they will have five other prominent individuals calling them out on it and will take such a beating that no one will dare to mess with RP again like that.

[Juan McCain]

Paul/Palin 2012!

Are you only saying that RP is over 70 chronologically . . . and Parah Sailin' could swoop in . . . like here :

Sarah Palin Disney Trailer - CollegeHumor video (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461)

"She just slap shot the U.S. Constitution . . ." "It's just the Bill of Rights, sir."

[puppetmaster]

well to be honest....ME

[The Patriot]

As I said, it was just a guess. But it looks like I was right.


If Kucinich was president you wouldn't be thinking of the presidency as a dictatorship. I don't think you realize what concerns must be addressed before you start to think in terms of policy, but the way you responded should give you a hint.

Well, one, Chavez isn't a dictator, he was elected. However, that doesn't mean I like the way he would run things. I think you need to readjust your political view if you think Dennis Kucinich would be good for this country. As I said before, he wants a public national bank with the congress controlling interest rates, he believes in cap and trade and the global warming hoax he wants to raise income taxes, he wants to raise inheritance taxes, he is for gun bans, high tariffs, price controls, more public housing, free college education, is for the UN, is for single payer healthcare, and is for making people retired early to collect benefits and "create" 1 million jobs(probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard). He might vote right on foreign policy and certain civil liberty issues, I might prefer him to most democrats but he is still anti liberty and stands against most of the things I believe in as a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

[Krugerrand]

Well, one, Chavez isn't a dictator, he was elected. However, that doesn't mean I like the way he would run things. I think you need to readjust your political view if you think Dennis Kucinich would be good for this country. As I said before, he wants a public national bank with the congress controlling interest rates, he believes in cap and trade and the global warming hoax he wants to raise income taxes, he wants to raise inheritance taxes, he is for gun bans, high tariffs, price controls, more public housing, free college education, is for the UN, is for single payer healthcare, and is for making people retired early to collect benefits and "create" 1 million jobs(probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard). He might vote right on foreign policy and certain civil liberty issues, I might prefer him to most democrats but he is still anti liberty and stands against most of the things I believe in as a Libertarian Constitutionalist.


Yes ... but except for that, can you name one negative about him as VP? :D

[Daamien]

President - Ron Paul
Vice President - Rand Paul
Secretary of State - Daniel Hannan
Treasury Secretary - Peter Schiff
Secretary of Defense - Adam Kokesh
Attorney General - Judge Andrew Napolitano

Wouldn't that be nice?

[Krugerrand]

President Ron Paul
Vice President Rand Paul
Secretary of State Daniel Hannan
Treasury Secretary Peter Schiff
Secretary of Defense Adam Kokesh
Attorney General Judge Andrew Napolitano

Wouldn't that be nice?

Let's be positive and assume that Rand and Peter win. We certainly don't want to pull them out of the Senate. They'll be far more effective there.

Grow the movement .... bring in more names. John Mackey - VP.

[Juan McCain]

I'll guess you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.


Your right - so fucking educate me and explain it.


As I said, it was just a guess. But it looks like I was right.

If Kucinich was president you wouldn't be thinking of the presidency as a dictatorship. I don't think you realize what concerns must be addressed before you start to think in terms of policy, but the way you responded should give you a hint.
As Kucinish is a Democrat, I never paid much attention to the little guy or the Dem debates - I don't know very much at all about Kucinish . . .
so you ARE right about that - I don't even know how to spell his name.

But please tell us what we all should realize about about "Dennis the Menace" Kucinish . . .
in that regard we really get nothing.

"Dennis Kucinich has spent his life fighting for the little guy --
and that little guy is Dennis." -- David Martin, the Cleveland Scene

Kucinich "led Cleveland into bankruptcy" as a young (31) mayor, called "Dennis the Menace" by the Cleveland press.

In fact, any suggestion of Kucinish having similar ideals as Ron Paul -
gets Ron Paul called as a LiberaLiterian.

There's is no real national appeal for him, so just forget Kucinish for being any part of a Ron Paul administration in any capacity -
those that suggest that there could be any conceivable connection to Ron Paul are really just trolling at RPF.

Kucinish is a laughable joke that works against Ron Paul's liberty message.

[The Patriot]

President - Ron Paul
Vice President - Rand Paul
Secretary of State - Daniel Hannan
Treasury Secretary - Peter Schiff
Secretary of Defense - Adam Kokesh
Attorney General - Judge Andrew Napolitano

Wouldn't that be nice?

Ron Paul-President
Gary Johnson-Vice President
Lew Rockwell-Chief of Staff
Peter Schiff-Treasury Secretary
Michael Scheuer-Secretary of Defense
Why would you want a foreigner to be secretary of state?
Pat Buchanan-Secretary of State
Andrew Napolitano-Attorney General
John Stossel-Press Secretary
Economic Advisor(Chair)-Thomas DiLorenzo
National Security Advisor-Admiral Fallon

[Daamien]

Why would you want a foreigner to be secretary of state?

They wouldn't be in the line of succession to the Presidency but would be effective brokers on the international stage. It's not exactly a new phenomenon (see: Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright). Daniel Hannan already works on the international stage as a Member of European Parliament, he speaks three languages, is a strong supporter of national sovereignty, he is an advocate of liberty and limited government, and is a non-interventionist. He was even born in Peru rather than his native England. I think that Daniel Hannan would actually be a great choice under a Ron Paul administration.

Tell me why he would make a bad Secretary of State.

[nf7mate]

Chuck Baldwin.

[Daamien]

Let's be positive and assume that Rand and Peter win. We certainly don't want to pull them out of the Senate. They'll be far more effective there.

Grow the movement .... bring in more names. John Mackey - VP.

Actually no, they wouldn't necessarily be. Ron's power of the veto as President of the US, Rand's power of tie-breaker in the Senate as Vice President (President of the Senate), and Peter's ability to unilaterally prevent excessive government debt would far exceed anything they could accomplish independently in Congress.

[Daamien]

*Double post*

[JamesButabi]

They wouldn't be in the line of succession to the Presidency but would be effective brokers on the international stage. It's not exactly a new phenomenon (see: Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright). Daniel Hannan already works on the international stage as a Member of European Parliament, he speaks three languages, is a strong supporter of national sovereignty, he is an advocate of liberty and limited government, and is a non-interventionist. He was even born in Peru rather than his native England. I think that Daniel Hannan would actually be a great choice under a Ron Paul administration.

Tell me why he would make a bad Secretary of State.


The smartest move for Ron Paul is to find a general or admiral who backs his foreign policy. This is the pre-eminent area where Obama can outmanouver him and appear as a "centrist" or where a third party rebellion can rise up among neo-cons on hawkism. It also gives disciplined credibility to the ticket. Maybe Admiral William Fallon?

Alternatively, although less seductive electorally, Gary Johnson would be an effective pick. Works to more aggressively target liberals and progressives, also targets New Mexico as a battleground state, and gives an executive's experience to the ticket.


I like both of these ideas. The big question, is do we know of any high ranking military who stands with RP on the issues? I also thought Demint would be a popular choice for VP to break alot of barriers. Then again if RP wins the republican primary, there is really no need for concession. Enough people will have been brought over to the liberty message.

[Krugerrand]

I like both of these ideas. The big question, is do we know of any high ranking military who stands with RP on the issues? I also thought Demint would be a popular choice for VP to break alot of barriers. Then again if RP wins the republican primary, there is really no need for concession. Enough people will have been brought over to the liberty message.

Perhaps Colin Powell. He'll change to match whatever he sees as in his best interest. :D

CP aside, I seriously like the idea.

[Srg1]

Maybe Ventura

[Juan McCain]

Ron Paul-President
...
Lew Rockwell-Chief of Staff
...
Pat Buchanan-Secretary of State
Andrew Napolitano-Attorney General
...
National Security Advisor-Admiral Fallon

This thread is starting to morph into recommendations for cabinet picks - which is just great. I like all these alot.

I'd recommend Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) as either a Secretary of Defense or a Vice-President for a Ron Paul administration as well.


...
Paul's veep would most likely have to be younger, and perhaps a woman.

Paul/Medina? :D

While she would be a frontrunner for some cabinet post possibly . . . Labor, Education . . . I dunno -
a President and VP from the same state do NOT get that state's electoral votes in the general election Presidential electoral college.

While Karl Rove got them barely out of that predictament in 2000 as Cheney and Halliburton were in Houston,
everyone will be paying attention to that from now on.

[anaconda]

Catherine Austin Fitts.

[The Patriot]

They wouldn't be in the line of succession to the Presidency but would be effective brokers on the international stage. It's not exactly a new phenomenon (see: Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright). Daniel Hannan already works on the international stage as a Member of European Parliament, he speaks three languages, is a strong supporter of national sovereignty, he is an advocate of liberty and limited government, and is a non-interventionist. He was even born in Peru rather than his native England. I think that Daniel Hannan would actually be a great choice under a Ron Paul administration.

Tell me why he would make a bad Secretary of State.

Well, first of all, I wouldn't consider these people model secretaries of state. Secondly, they lived in America since the 30s, they came here as kids fleeing the Nazis. IT wasn't as though they were in the Czech or German Parliament like Hannan is in the European Parliament and has never lived in America. As an advocate of national sovereignty, I doubt he would even accept the role as a foreign statesman to take such a high post in our government.

[The Patriot]

Actually no, they wouldn't necessarily be. Ron's power of the veto as President of the US, Rand's power of tie-breaker in the Senate as Vice President (President of the Senate), and Peter's ability to unilaterally prevent excessive government debt would far exceed anything they could accomplish independently in Congress.
Could Schiff just refuse to issue Treasury Securities to finance Congressional Appropriations that require borrowing?

[LibertarianfromGermany]

Paul / Paul

I think the ad potential of a father / son ticket would be great.

"Join me and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son!"?

On a serious note: I think Gary Johnson will be likely - he doesn't hold any current office so it would make sense. His record is pretty damn nice too!

[Stary Hickory]

Please all sign Dennis Kucinich's petition . . . .

Establishing Health Care As A Civil Right
http://healthcare.kucinich.us/petition/

Yeah, we'll all get right on that.

Sounds to me that Dennis Kucinich is a crazy socialist . . .
but does anybuddy know how he is going to vote on NObamaCare ?


Kunich is a nut job, the hell with this guy totally. He would shoot you to prevent you from solving your medical care on your own terms. Hardocre statist scum. It's nice he hates the FED, but bad he wants the government to takeover the FEDs job...for more STATIST CONTROL.

[AJ Antimony]

Well, keeping in mind the VP doesn't really do anything and that his main purpose is to help the ticket, I'm going to have to go with Gary Johnson as the ideal VP candidate for Ron Paul. He looks young enough, he's a very healthy athlete, and no one can say he's inexperienced-- he's a former two term Republican governor of a Democratic state. The only bad thing about Johnson is that he's from New Mexico which is basically Texas. Gary would be PERFECT if he was from, say, New York, or some other northeastern Democratic state.

Other possibilities:

Jesse Ventura - it seems like he's considered a nut in the mainstream and he's never been a Republican, so that hurts. BUT, Jesse's forte is the debates, and if he gets picked (and nominated) to be the Republican VP, he is guaranteed 1 debate without a 15% in the polls bullshit requirement. Although, watching Ventura debate would completely steal the show and make RP's debates look boring.

The Judge - a solid pick for being a national TV personality, not ideal because he looks old and Paul will need youth on the ticket.

John Stossel - ditto, but doesn't look as old.

Bruce Fein - he is from the Reagan administration which helps, but he's also up there in age. Definitely needs a cabinet position.

I don't like the idea of picking people like Sen. Rand Paul, Sen. Peter Schiff, Rep. BJ Lawson, or Rep. Adam Kokesh. They need to be supporting anti-legislation in Congress. If it takes so much effort to get them in Congress, why would anyone want to pull them out for the job that does nothing?

Getting a General or Admiral who believes in RP's foreign policy would be awesome. But Ron HAS to make sure he doesn't pull another Stockdale.

A big name CEO like John Mackey isn't a bad idea, but may not be the best

Buchanan is too old

Barry Goldwater Jr. is really too old

Jeff Flake is libertarian-leaning, not libertarian.

Tom Woods is no good because of his 0 name ID and white supremacist issues

Walter Williams wouldn't be horrible, but nothing special

Basically we can have our fantasies about who we personally would love to see on the ticket, but really there is only one person who would be taken seriously, who would add youth to the ticket, who has lots of experience, and who is a Republican. And that's Gary Johnson.

[Juan McCain]

. . . - he doesn't hold any current office so it would make sense.

I respectfully disagree . . . that somehow NOT holding office can be really regarded as some sort of advantage for a VP candidate - all else equal -
for the most part, if anything - it must be overcome as a potential disadvantage, imho.