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malkusm
03-02-2010, 09:17 PM
Debra Medina received 275,693 votes. (18.6%)

Ron Paul received 47,742 votes (with 77% of precincts reporting) in his run for Senate in 1984. He was a sitting Congressman running against another sitting Congressman (Phil Gramm) who had also not won a statewide race yet in his career. Debra Medina was a county GOP chair (aka a nobody) running against an incumbent Governor (Perry) and a sitting U.S. Senator (Hutchinson).

Ron Paul received no more than ~129,000 in ANY state in his presidential bid of 2008. Medina has topped that.

Debra Medina won Crane County, TX with 54%, San Saba County, TX with 38.8% of the vote, Carson County with 52.7% of the vote, and Zavala County with 68.8% of the vote.

Did any liberty candidate get anything near 18.6% in a statewide race in 2008?

I'm tired of the pessimism. If you're not here to see this through and to keep the momentum of our political goals alive, I'm not sad to see you go. If these results don't inspire you to push harder, educate more, and get more involved, then keep complaining. One day they'll change all by themselves.

Cowlesy
03-02-2010, 09:20 PM
http://www.gisails.com/imagestr/blimplaunch.jpg

Great post, malkusm.

We let these thing sap our momentum, but Debra did *#@$ing outstanding and has received a ton of votes. She will be a force to be reckoned with, as you have to consider a great deal of her voters are hardcore activists (at least that is my hope).

The REVOLUTION is ALIVE AND WELL.

libertyjam
03-02-2010, 09:24 PM
Debra Medina has received 122,988 votes so far. (10:18 PM ET)

Ron Paul received 47,742 votes (with 77% of precincts reporting) in his run for Senate in 1984. He was a sitting Congressman running against another sitting Congressman (Phil Gramm) who had also not won a statewide race yet in his career. Debra Medina was a county GOP chair (aka a nobody) running against an incumbent Governor (Perry) and a sitting U.S. Senator (Hutchinson).

Ron Paul received no more than ~129,000 in ANY state in his presidential bid of 2008. Medina is on track to top that.

Debra Medina won Crane County, TX with 54% of the vote (100% reporting).

Did any liberty candidate get anything near 17% in a statewide race in 2008?

I'm tired of the pessimism. If you're not here to see this through and to keep the momentum of our political goals alive, I'm not sad to see you go. If these results don't inspire you to push harder, educate more, and get more involved, then keep complaining. One day they'll change all by themselves.


I agree, for Debra to do so well against the namebrands she is up against I think is HUGE! These kind of results indicate a portion of the electorate that must be contended with and cannot be ignored.

RileyE104
03-02-2010, 09:25 PM
She's also won San Saba County with 38.2%


And she beat KBH in Jack County 24.6% to 22.8

Plus she's in 2nd place right now in a lot of precincts with 75% of the precincts left to go..

Cowlesy
03-02-2010, 09:26 PM
She came out of literally nowhere and has almost 20% of Republican Texans' votes.

WIN!!

The party can't ignore a hard-right 20% of it.

undergroundrr
03-02-2010, 09:26 PM
To do this well against the namebrands AND considering the amazing media snowing she's received. "Quickest way back to 4%" huh?

jsu718
03-02-2010, 09:27 PM
She came out of literally nowhere and has almost 20% of Republican Texans' votes.

WIN!!

The party can't ignore a hard-right 20% of it.

It's not so much "hard-right" as it is "hard-neither"

malkusm
03-02-2010, 09:29 PM
She's also won San Saba County with 38.2%


And she beat KBH in Jack County 24.6% to 22.8

Good catch, and added to the OP. :)

RileyE104
03-02-2010, 09:32 PM
To do this well against the namebrands AND considering the amazing media snowing she's received. "Quickest way back to 4%" huh?

For real.. Stupid FOX is still trying to report that she's not a viable candidate! Really FOX, really? I bet Perry paid off KBH to stay in the race because he feared Medina so much.

steph3n
03-02-2010, 09:32 PM
San Saba Co!!! woo just a bit south of me, we have some activist really working that area hard. I get weekly updates from them.

I have just gotten in from weeks and weeks of business travel. I voted early one day because I got snowed in, changed up my schedule, snow cleared and I left again.

malkusm
03-02-2010, 09:35 PM
San Saba Co!!! woo just a bit south of me, we have some activist really working that area hard. I get weekly updates from them.

I have just gotten in from weeks and weeks of business travel. I voted early one day because I got snowed in, changed up my schedule, snow cleared and I left again.

Thank you for voting and doing all that you can to advance the cause of liberty! :)

RileyE104
03-02-2010, 09:46 PM
FIRST PLACE!!!

Crane County - 54%

San Saba County - 38.2%

Carson County - 52.7%

Zavala County - 68.8%



LOTS of 2nd Places! :D

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MAVERICK County - 22% vs KBH 13.6%

Pecos County - 28% vs KBH 19%

Jeff Davis County - 28.8% vs KBH 21.6%

Winkler County - 29.9% vs KBH 17.1%

Ward County - 37.3% vs KBH 14.7%

Presidio County - 24% vs KBH 16%

Jack County - 24.6% vs KBH 22.8%

Wise County - 30.8% vs KBH 27.6%

Upton County - 33.3% vs KBH 0% (only 3 votes recorded in this county.. 1 for Medina 2 for Perry)

Ector County - 28.4% vs KBH 15.7%

Midland County - 25.1% vs KBH 20.8%

Van Zandt County - 27.2% vs KBH 24.4%

Lee County - 33.2% vs KBH 26.9%

Bastrop County - 29.4% vs KBH 23.5%

Hays County - 26.3% vs KBH 21.4%

Martin County - 30.9% vs KBH 30.6%

Borden County - 23.2% vs KBH 18.2%

Wood County - 25% to KBH 24.4%

Mitchell County - 31.4% vs KBH 29.5%

Reeves County - 22.7% vs KBH 15.9%

Andrews County - 27.8% vs KBH 17.9%

Bee County - 32.9% vs KBH 26.7%

Camanche County - 27.9% vs KBH 27.6%

Johnson County - 26.8% vs KBH 25.3%

Somervell County - 25.9% vs KBH 23.7%

Jim Hogg County - 25% vs KBH 6.3%


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TIED with Perry in Stonewall County @ 42.9%

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undergroundrr
03-02-2010, 10:03 PM
Tied for first with Perry in Stonewall County with 100% reporting. Okay, it's only 28 voters, but still...

RileyE104
03-02-2010, 10:10 PM
Tied for first with Perry in Stonewall County with 100% reporting. Okay, it's only 28 voters, but still...

oh ya sorry, I was looking at the picture and they had her in 1st :D

doctor jones
03-02-2010, 10:29 PM
What happened in Crane county? Their electronic voting machines break? lol

Someone should suggest to the Medina campaign that they write a press release
saying her base is going to push for a referendum to eliminate property tax. This way it shows she's not running for her own ego but for the sake of these issues.

The base is riled up still, and in order to keep momentum we need to have the Medina volunteers start pushing for a state wide referendum to eliminate property tax, please pass it along to the Medina camp someone.

It will be like what HR 1207 did to keep the C4L base active to TX.

Matt Collins
03-02-2010, 10:36 PM
Exactly. Liberty candidates used to receive 1-2% of the vote. In 2008 Ron received maybe 10% of the vote. Now we are approaching twice that!

The trends are out - liberty is on the rise.



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Fr3shjive
03-02-2010, 10:46 PM
How much was Medina out spent by both candidates too?

undergroundrr
03-02-2010, 10:51 PM
Or more exactly, what was the cost per vote?

dannno
03-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Or more exactly, what was the cost per vote?


:confused:

Shotdown1027
03-02-2010, 11:29 PM
There is nothing to be pessimistic about. Medina polled nearly 20% in TEXAS for GOVERNOR. This is the most conservative of states, and one of the most populous/large states.

Medina has done excellently. She has two options: Prepare for a congressional run or statewide office run in 2-4 years, or begin an initiative to repeal the property tax.

Medina came on the scene as a nobody--polling 1-2%. 4%, 12%, 16%--and now ending up with 18-19%. This is incredible. Quit complaining and get back to work!

undergroundrr
03-02-2010, 11:32 PM
:confused:

Total amount of campaign money spent divided by total number of votes.

If Bailout spent $6,500,000 dollars to get 450,000 votes, that's $14 per vote.

If Al Gore's ex-campaign manager spent $8,000,000 dollars to get 800,000 votes, that's $10 per vote.

If Debra spent $147,400 to get 300,000 votes, that's 50 cents per vote.


That's what I call value!

tpreitzel
03-02-2010, 11:32 PM
There is nothing to be pessimistic about. Medina polled nearly 20% in TEXAS for GOVERNOR. This is the most conservative of states, and one of the most populous/large states.

Medina has done excellently. She has two options: Prepare for a congressional run or statewide office run in 2-4 years, or begin an initiative to repeal the property tax.

Medina came on the scene as a nobody--polling 1-2%. 4%, 12%, 16%--and now ending up with 18-19%. This is incredible. Quit complaining and get back to work!

Agreed, but for some it's easier to whine and point the finger based on suppositions than work productively. Medina's coming perilously close to giving Perry a bad hair day. ;)

Matt Collins
03-02-2010, 11:34 PM
Medina came on the scene as a nobody--polling 1-2%. 4%, 12%, 16%--and now ending up with 18-19%. This is incredible. Quit complaining and get back to work!Post of the month!

undergroundrr
03-02-2010, 11:43 PM
Also, isn't it interesting that her percentage is better today (18.41%) than it was in early voting (16.37%)? It's almost as if her appeal has increased in the last week or two.

undergroundrr
03-03-2010, 12:25 AM
To give perspective, Giuliani's cost per vote in the 2008 primaries was apparently $142.83.

http://crooksandliars.com/2008/02/12/guilianis-cost-per-vote-14283

Liberty candidates seem to get much higher yield per dollar spent.

Shotdown1027
03-03-2010, 12:26 AM
Thanks Matt--it's my general attitude with these things. Work hard, appreciate the progress (or make note of whatever failures existed), and move on. Complaining and worrying gets us nowhere. I think it is extremely obvious that the CFLers made huge progress in Texas over the last couple of months.

I would be really interested in seeing a map breakdown of the vote. It'd give us some clues as to where Medina might be able to run for State Senate or US Congress. Can someone map out her vote-getting?

RP4EVER
03-03-2010, 01:37 AM
I noticed something: there were counties where no Republicans voted.

Upton county had 3 votes 2 Perry 1 Medina

Loving County had 18 Democratic Votes.....no Republicans.

Are there no Republicans in those counties or just no turnout?

Promontorium
03-03-2010, 01:49 AM
3 VOTES FOR A WHOLE COUNTY!!! If I ran for congress there would I only need my family to vote for me to win the district?

K466
03-03-2010, 07:39 AM
Great post, we really did make a lot of progress in this election, 17% is not too bad

constituent
03-03-2010, 07:42 AM
Upton county had 3 votes 2 Perry 1 Medina


with a permanent population numbering in the mid three-thousands, does it come as any surprise?

jmdrake
03-03-2010, 08:00 AM
3 VOTES FOR A WHOLE COUNTY!!! If I ran for congress there would I only need my family to vote for me to win the district?

Upton county is in a congressional district with 23 other counties.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10828389/Texas-TEXAS-CONGRESSIONAL-DISTRICTS-AND-COUNTIES%5B214%5D

So you'd have to do a lot better than 3 votes to win the district. That said there a likely some other races that are county wide.

TonySutton
03-03-2010, 08:22 AM
I noticed something: there were counties where no Republicans voted.

Upton county had 3 votes 2 Perry 1 Medina

Loving County had 18 Democratic Votes.....no Republicans.

Are there no Republicans in those counties or just no turnout?

Loving County has a population of 67 :P

Some might remember this county because it garnered some attention when someone decided to start up a Free Town Project.

Bern
03-03-2010, 08:30 AM
Medina pulled in ~18% overall. Her PPP polling number before the truther thing was 24%. If she had handled that better, I believe she would be preparing for a run-off election right now.

bruce leeroy
03-03-2010, 08:45 AM
I was suprised how well medina did in places like ector and midland county

RP4EVER
03-03-2010, 07:24 PM
According to the Texas SoS websight there are 112 regsitered voters in Loving. 18 voted......

Slutter McGee
03-03-2010, 09:24 PM
I supported her financially and with my time as well. And I KNEW she was going to lose. Not because of her, but just because I have lived in Texas my whole life and I know how people here think. It is ok. We will now know the areas and districts which are more receptive to liberty. And we can push harder in those areas.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

SimpleName
03-03-2010, 10:22 PM
Great OP. I often catch myself in pessimism and have to put things in context. For somebody coming virtually out of nowhere to challenge one of the biggest names in the tea party movement all while Beck sh*t all over her while she was gaining momentum, she really performed well.

If only we could have seen Gary Johnson part 2. Would have been nice though to see where Texas headed with Medina at the top.

As for Ron Paul, another usual awesome showing. Loved seeing the articles about how there was a driving force against him. The mainstream media struggled to make it look like he was losing mass support. Then he pulls an 80% victory. The people of the 14th district are a smart bunch.

Dustancostine
03-03-2010, 11:26 PM
Also, isn't it interesting that her percentage is better today (18.41%) than it was in early voting (16.37%)? It's almost as if her appeal has increased in the last week or two.

Also we worked our rear ends off at the polls. Work the polls and you can add up to 5% to your vote total.

tpreitzel
03-04-2010, 04:14 AM
If she had handled that better, I believe she would be preparing for a run-off election right now.

Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error was such that no real assessment of Beck's shenanigans can be accurately determined. Different polls showed different results. Some polls were identical before and after the event.

However, I'm using this post to inform the readers that I finally heard from one of my relatives regarding Beck's foolish and irresponsible attack on Medina. Bottom line: You blew it, Glenn, in retaining and subjugating that viewer to your nonsense. ;)

Bern
03-04-2010, 08:55 AM
As for Ron Paul, another usual awesome showing. Loved seeing the articles about how there was a driving force against him. The mainstream media struggled to make it look like he was losing mass support. Then he pulls an 80% victory. The people of the 14th district are a smart bunch.

When I went to the polling place to vote, the area was littered with signs for his opponents. There was even a lady in the parking lot handing out slim jims for one of his opponents. There was not a single sign for Ron Paul there. I'm glad to report that he didn't need one. I think everyone in CD-14 knows who Ron Paul is.


Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error was such that no real assessment of Beck's shenanigans can be accurately determined. Different polls showed different results. Some polls were identical before and after the event.

You are just comparing points. Look at the vectors. Medina was trending up with an amazing slope before the interview. I don't know if you get out much and mingle in different circles, but I do and I can tell you that the interview single handedly killed any interest I was carefully tending. I'm quite sure that the interview shut and locked the doors of opportunity that she would have easily walked through otherwise.

cajuncocoa
03-04-2010, 09:06 AM
There's nothing to be pessimistic about!

I think Deb did an awesome job, and the fact that she got a larger percentage of the vote than even Dr. Paul did in 2008 (I think I saw that in the OP) is tremendous news! It shows that we are making great strides in the past two years.

I wonder how much better she would have done without Glenn Beck's smear campaign against her, but that should be a lesson for future campaigns. Our candidates cannot avoid interviews with people like Beck (national exposure!), but we can be better prepared next time.

John Taylor
03-04-2010, 09:21 AM
Exactly. Liberty candidates used to receive 1-2% of the vote. In 2008 Ron received maybe 10% of the vote. Now we are approaching twice that!

The trends are out - liberty is on the rise.



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Moving the GOP back to Goldwater. I like it.

jmdrake
03-04-2010, 05:33 PM
Total amount of campaign money spent divided by total number of votes.

If Bailout spent $6,500,000 dollars to get 450,000 votes, that's $14 per vote.

If Al Gore's ex-campaign manager spent $8,000,000 dollars to get 800,000 votes, that's $10 per vote.

If Debra spent $147,400 to get 300,000 votes, that's 50 cents per vote.


That's what I call value!

Am I missing something here? Is there some reason Medina only spent 147K when she had 777K? :confused: