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FrankRep
03-02-2010, 03:51 PM
According to the very latest wisdom from the climate-change claque, the epochal blizzards that have hit the Northeast this winter in rapid succession are a likely consequence of global warming. By Charles Scaliger


Global Warming Causes Blizzards. Really?! (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/reviews/correction-please/3046-global-warming-causes-blizzards-really)


Charles Scaliger | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
02 March 2010


Item: “There is some evidence that climate change could in fact make such massive snowstorms more common, even as the world continues to warm,” Bryan Walsh wrote in a February 10 Time magazine online article, commenting on the twin blizzards that buried Washington, D.C., within a few days of each other. He went on: “As the meteorologist Jeff Masters points out in his excellent blog at Weather Underground, the two major storms that hit Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington, D.C., this winter — in December and during the first weekend of February — are already among the 10 heaviest snowfalls those cities have ever recorded. The chance of that happening in the same winter is incredibly unlikely.”

Item: John M. Broder reported in the New York Times of February 10:



A federal government report issued last year ... pointed to the likelihood of more frequent snowstorms in the Northeast and less frequent snow in the South and Southeast as a result of long-term temperature and precipitation patterns. The Climate Impacts report, from the multiagency United States Global Change Research Program, also projected more intense drought in the Southwest and more powerful Gulf Coast hurricanes because of warming.


Item: “Deniers have long taken advantage of scientists’ cautious statements, and ‘Climategate’ breathed new life into the movement, but the science stands: warming is real, and it’s caused by human actions” — so said David A. Graham on February 12 for Newsweek online, under the heading “Anthropogenic Global Warming Is a Hoax,” one of several allegedly false conspiracy theories detailed in “Know Your Conspiracies: Newsweek’s guide to today’s trendiest, hippest, and least likely fringe beliefs.”


Correction: According to the very latest wisdom from the climate-change claque, the epochal blizzards that have hit the Northeast this winter in rapid succession are a likely consequence of global warming.

Really? As I was writing the first draft of this article, blizzard number two raged outside my window, combining wind and heavy snow to eventually deposit more than a foot of new white stuff on top of the nearly two feet visited on my zip code by the first storm. And these figures, coming from west-central Pennsylvania, are benign in comparison to the quantities of snow dumped on portions of Maryland and the Philadelphia and D.C. metropolitan areas during that same unforgettable stretch. The First Great Blizzard of 2010 set all kinds of snowfall records, including in the D.C. area. By the time the second had vented its wrath, parts of the Baltimore metropolitan area had received up to 50 inches of total snowfall from the two storms, amounts not seen in the mid-Atlantic since the Great Blizzard of 1888. Baltimore has already set new records for total winter snowfall, and many weeks of potential winter precipitation still lie ahead.

And it hasn’t just been the snow. December and January were unusually cold. In the wake of the first blizzard, temperatures plunged into the single digits for several nights in a row, ascending (in the bright sun) into the upper teens or low twenties by day. In short, if this is global warming, I’d hate to see what global cooling might entail!

Yet Time and the New York Times, among others, haven’t missed a beat in their latest contribution to what must be regarded as one of the most persistent mistaken orthodoxies in the history of science and politics. The argument, as Bryan Walsh explains, is that any spate of statistically anomalous severe weather is likely due to what is now being coyly styled “climate change.” The odds, argue global-warming acolytes, militate against unlikely events such as two record-breaking blizzards in rapid succession being caused by anything besides global warming.


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Oh, so? What if the climate were in a cooling cycle? Or were the people who experienced the Little Ice Age a few hundred years ago (or the Big Ice Age a few millennia back, for that matter!) merely being vexed by persistent flurries? What, in point of fact, produced those massive glaciers that overwhelmed the northern portions of what is now the continental United States and all of Canada, if not snow, and lots of it? While it is true that warmer temperatures can produce heavier snow — as anyone who lives within range of lake-effect snow, which mostly falls before the Great Lakes freeze over or become too cold to generate the condensation responsible for heavy snow, can attest — we have been seeing both heavier snow and colder temperatures, both in the United States and in Europe, and not merely this winter, but for a number of winters running. No less an authority than Professor Phil Jones, former director of the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, has admitted, according to the Daily Mail, that “for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.”

Ah, but weather and climate are two different things, insist the global-warming gurus. “It’s a mistake to use any one storm — or even a season’s worth of storms — to disprove climate change (or to prove it; some environmentalists have wrongly tied the lack of snow in Vancouver, the site of [this year’s] Winter Olympic Games … to global warming),” Walsh reminds his readers, in that infuriating way that global-warming pseudoscience has of avoiding falsifiability. “Weather is what will happen next weekend; climate is what will happen over the next decades and centuries.”

In other words, weather really isn’t a reliable indicator of long-term climate trends — but that isn’t going to stop Walsh and his ilk from making sweeping predictions and (which is much more important) insisting upon sweeping policy changes just in case they turn out to be right one of these millennia.

But quite aside from the vexing refusal of recent weather trends to cooperate with the gloomy prognoses of global-warming models, the credibility of the entire climate-change creed has been severely undermined by a cascade of recent revelations that climatologists have systematically massaged data and cooked statistics to produce politically desirable models. From the “Climategate” scandal — which has exposed the nauseating hypocrisy and duplicity of a whole gang of climatologists manufacturing “science” to fit the agenda of UN-connected environmental extremists — to the embarrassing disclosure that data on allegedly vanishing Himalayan glaciers was almost completely fabricated, the pseudoscience is finally being laid bare to public scrutiny.

None of which is to say that climate change is not occurring and has not occurred in the past. Quite the contrary: the historical and geological record both show inconvertibly that climate and weather patterns are in more or less constant flux, sometimes verging into drastic long-term shifts that create ice ages and warming epochs. At issue is whether such changes can be driven by human activity — as opposed to, say, sunspot cycles or other natural factors. The near-total absence of sunspot activity over the last decade has coincided with a return of significantly cooler winters both in North America and in Europe — in stark contrast to the active cyclicity of the eighties and nineties that coincided with a stretch of mild winters and hot summers. While correlation does not necessarily signify causation, the mass of evidence suggesting a link between sunspot activity and climate cycles certainly does not warrant the dismissive treatment of many climatologists determined to indict the human race for melting ice caps and sizzling summers. Whatever the case, the world’s climate is nowhere near either of the extremes attested by the geologic record; no glaciers are spilling across Eurasia and North America (as they did during the last Ice Age), nor do lush forests (or any trees at all) now grow on Ellesmere Island in the High Arctic (as they did several million years ago during the late Tertiary, when the climate was up to 10 degrees C warmer than it is now). Not even the comparatively recent extremes of the Medieval Warming Period and the subsequent Little Ice Age have been breached (just ask any Dutchman whether any winter in living memory has produced wintry scenes like Pieter Brueghel’s famous ice skating tableau painted in the early 16th century).

In a word: Climate change happens. But with all due respect to the arrogant asseverations of Al Gore, Newsweek, and their Ph.D.-accredited epigones, the so-called science of anthropogenic or manmade global warming is far from settled.

President Obama, probably dismayed by the capacity of Mother Nature to shut down Washington, called the storms “Snowmageddon,” which media pundits were quick to seize upon. In a similar vein, the ancient Norse — drawing, perhaps, on some racial memory of climate change in the prehistoric past — insisted in their eschatology that the end of the world (Ragnarok, marked by warring among gods and men and great natural disasters) would be preceded by three great winters or “fimbulwinters.” The attribution of such forces of nature to divine wrath, while not scientific, at least has an internal logic that the doctrine of anthropogenic global warming — driven more by ideology than by level-headed science — lacks absolutely.


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http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/reviews/correction-please/3046-global-warming-causes-blizzards-really

reillym
04-03-2010, 01:00 PM
Arguing that the massive snowfall disproves GCC is stupid and insane. Weather changes, that's it.

People are dumb.

Dr.3D
04-03-2010, 01:08 PM
Well, to counter their arguments, wouldn't the reflection from the snow cause a lot of solar radiation to be reflected back into space and thus stop or even reverse the warming they seem to think is happening?

Addisonn
06-29-2010, 04:38 AM
Record cold in the UK, heavy snow in the UK, Heavy snow in Europe, crops and oranges frozen in southern Florida, fish and manatees freezing to death, record cold and snowfall for the Capital, bitter cold in the Northern Plains, Record cold and snow in China.

Must be Global Warming. After all, the liberals say so.

reillym
06-30-2010, 09:28 PM
Record cold in the UK, heavy snow in the UK, Heavy snow in Europe, crops and oranges frozen in southern Florida, fish and manatees freezing to death, record cold and snowfall for the Capital, bitter cold in the Northern Plains, Record cold and snow in China.

Must be Global Warming. After all, the liberals say so.

Please, stop. You are making yourself look like a fool.

Even the most BASIC knowledge of global weather patterns would help you. Just because one area of the world is cold for one winter does not disprove global climate change. That's silly. As some parts of the world get warmer (as they are), ocean currents and wind currents can change which greatly affect the temperature of other parts of the world.

Stop spreading misinformation. Scientists support GCC, time to get on board and support solutions so your grandkids have a world to live in.

Dr.3D
06-30-2010, 09:49 PM
Please, stop. You are making yourself look like a fool.

Even the most BASIC knowledge of global weather patterns would help you. Just because one area of the world is cold for one winter does not disprove global climate change. That's silly. As some parts of the world get warmer (as they are), ocean currents and wind currents can change which greatly affect the temperature of other parts of the world.

Stop spreading misinformation. Scientists support GCC, time to get on board and support solutions so your grandkids have a world to live in.

Oh please! Don't be another one of those brainwashed people that believes that crap.

Do a little research on the subject before you make a fool of yourself.

Nate-ForLiberty
06-30-2010, 09:49 PM
NEWSFLASH!

Global climate change is a natural and inherent part this planet. You learned about changing weather patterns in geology in high school. A very popular kids movie called ICE AGE was set in a time when the earth had dramatic cooling, which was then followed by dramatic warming. It happens regardless of what humans do.

It is also a fact that humans pollute the environment. They've been able to get away with it because the planet is so large; there is plenty of space and the Earth is designed to renew and clean itself. So (1) Humans will grow in number to the point where there will be a large market for clean energy, because people don't want to live in shit, or (2) the Earth will just have enough of it and kill us all. Either way, it's the free market cleaning it up.

Point of interest, if a politician says we all need to "save" something or someone, and the way to do this is money, they're lying.

micahnelson
06-30-2010, 11:35 PM
Climate Change is a real problem.

Having corporatist leaders is another problem.

It seems we can't create a solution to the first without using a carbon credit system that will line the pockets of goldman sachs even further.

Kotin
07-01-2010, 12:03 AM
Please, stop. You are making yourself look like a fool.

Even the most BASIC knowledge of global weather patterns would help you. Just because one area of the world is cold for one winter does not disprove global climate change. That's silly. As some parts of the world get warmer (as they are), ocean currents and wind currents can change which greatly affect the temperature of other parts of the world.

Stop spreading misinformation. Scientists support GCC, time to get on board and support solutions so your grandkids have a world to live in.

Funny..

reillym
07-03-2010, 12:18 PM
NEWSFLASH!

Global climate change is a natural and inherent part this planet. You learned about changing weather patterns in geology in high school. A very popular kids movie called ICE AGE was set in a time when the earth had dramatic cooling, which was then followed by dramatic warming. It happens regardless of what humans do.

It is also a fact that humans pollute the environment. They've been able to get away with it because the planet is so large; there is plenty of space and the Earth is designed to renew and clean itself. So (1) Humans will grow in number to the point where there will be a large market for clean energy, because people don't want to live in shit, or (2) the Earth will just have enough of it and kill us all. Either way, it's the free market cleaning it up.

Point of interest, if a politician says we all need to "save" something or someone, and the way to do this is money, they're lying.

Of course there are periods of change. The problem is that we are now in a period of accelerated change that is very different from any other period we've studied.

And get away with polluting? The oil spill would beg to differ. And the collapsing fish populations due to dead water. And the air quality. And the destruction of the rain forests. And .... And... And..

Nate-ForLiberty
07-03-2010, 12:20 PM
Of course there are periods of change. The problem is that we are now in a period of accelerated change that is very different from any other period we've studied.

And get away with polluting? The oil spill would beg to differ. And the collapsing fish populations due to dead water. And the air quality. And the destruction of the rain forests. And .... And... And..

do you or have you ever had a dog?

reillym
07-03-2010, 12:20 PM
Oh please! Don't be another one of those brainwashed people that believes that crap.

Do a little research on the subject before you make a fool of yourself.

Nice, you articulately argued the points I brought up with facts and evidence. It is basic knowledge that increased volatility in weather patterns and cycles is one of the effects of climate change, whether it is extreme heat or cold. The oil companies and the corporate republicans don't want you to see that, though.

reillym
07-03-2010, 12:21 PM
do you or have you ever had a dog?

I do. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Dr.3D
07-03-2010, 12:22 PM
Of course there are periods of change. The problem is that we are now in a period of accelerated change that is very different from any other period we've studied.

And get away with polluting? The oil spill would beg to differ. And the collapsing fish populations due to dead water. And the air quality. And the destruction of the rain forests. And .... And... And..

And who is telling you we are in a period of accelerated change? Oh yeah... Al Gore and his buddies who are being paid by government grants to do the studies.

Oh well.... just goes to show how the Nobel Prize isn't worth the paper it's written on anymore. Just look at who they have been giving them to for the past few years. LOL

reillym
07-03-2010, 12:26 PM
And who is telling you we are in a period of accelerated change? Oh yeah... Al Gore and his buddies who are being paid by government grants to do the studies.

Oh well.... just goes to show how the Nobel Prize isn't worth the paper it's written on anymore. Just look at who they have been giving them to for the past few years. LOL

Wow. No, it's the large majority of SCIENTISTS who support the theory. Not politicians. I hate Al Gore, and he probably has his own agenda with what he is publicizing. But that's beyond the point, and you bringing it up shines light on the weakness of your argument. He is a drop in the bucket.

The worldwide science community is behind the anthropogenic climate change theory. Fact. No amount of politicizing will change that.

Dr.3D
07-03-2010, 12:28 PM
Nice, you articulately argued the points I brought up with facts and evidence. It is basic knowledge that increased volatility in weather patterns and cycles is one of the effects of climate change, whether it is extreme heat or cold. The oil companies and the corporate republicans don't want you to see that, though.

I shouldn't have to. I've already covered it all back in previous threads. They should be in this particular forum if you are interested in what we have covered for the past few years on this subject.

Personally, I'm getting tired of explaining it over and over again to the new folks who still haven't read the rest of the threads in this forum.

reillym
07-03-2010, 12:43 PM
I shouldn't have to. I've already covered it all back in previous threads. They should be in this particular forum if you are interested in what we have covered for the past few years on this subject.

Personally, I'm getting tired of explaining it over and over again to the new folks who still haven't read the rest of the threads in this forum.

Well if the earlier posts on this form boil down to garbage like "Global Warming Causes Blizzards," I don't think I need to look anything up. The scientific prowess of this forum is already determined.

Dr.3D
07-03-2010, 12:52 PM
Well if the earlier posts on this form boil down to garbage like "Global Warming Causes Blizzards," I don't think I need to look anything up. The scientific prowess of this forum is already determined.

Then just keep spitting into the wind.... I don't care.

Nate-ForLiberty
07-03-2010, 01:28 PM
I do. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Better put him down. His piss is killing the earth, bit by bit. :rolleyes:


The point is that everything pollutes and everything cleans. Everything changes. A small fraction in the increase of the Sun's radiation would fry the entire planet, while a slight decrease would result in another ice age. If a large planetary object passed through our Solar system, it would change the Earth's orbit altering the weather patterns and overall climate.

"Global Climate Change" and man made pollution are two separate concepts. There is not one shred of doubt in my mind that the human race is consuming natural resources faster then they can be replenished. This is a completely different problem than the fictional idea that we are causing a global increase in temperature. The idea of "Global Climate Change" was introduced in order to get the population of the world to submit to those who can "save us". Just think of the name "Global", why use that word? It isn't very scientific. Why use that word at all? Is there a different kind of climate change? Wouldn't a change in the climate over one region of the Earth create changes for the whole planet?

If that is true, then the only way to fight "Global Climate Change" is to have every last government, corporation, human being on Earth submit to laws which govern their actions as to not wrongfully harm the planet. The only way to do this is a One World Government or "Global Government". Let's say the U.S. completely cleans up it's act, but China continues to pollute. What do you do as a nation? Sanction China, refuse to import Chinese goods? Go to war to impose what's "right"?

Let's say you write a law that bans the emission of carbon monoxide (a gas poisonous to human beings). The problem is animals and human beings naturally produce this gas. Obviously a black and white ban on certain chemicals/gasses/waste will result in an unbalanced atmosphere. The Earth figured out exactly what not only humans need to breathe and live, but millions of other species of plants and animals, too. Balance cannot be imposed, it happens naturally. The people who are creating the greatest pollution are the ones who profess to know who to save us.

You must see through this scam. The most effective way to end mass pollution is to go after the polluters, not control every human on earth. But you don't think this way because "climate change" is "global". (i.e. everyone is responsible, therefore everyone must pay)

Pollution is real and a problem, which can be solved by the strict observance of property rights. "Global Climate Change" is a farce and a half-truth in order to pacify those who want to reduce pollution by directing their energies toward Global Government.



The use of the word "Global" is a psychological tool.

reillym
07-15-2010, 07:04 PM
Better put him down. His piss is killing the earth, bit by bit. :rolleyes:


The point is that everything pollutes and everything cleans. Everything changes. A small fraction in the increase of the Sun's radiation would fry the entire planet, while a slight decrease would result in another ice age. If a large planetary object passed through our Solar system, it would change the Earth's orbit altering the weather patterns and overall climate.

"Global Climate Change" and man made pollution are two separate concepts. There is not one shred of doubt in my mind that the human race is consuming natural resources faster then they can be replenished. This is a completely different problem than the fictional idea that we are causing a global increase in temperature. The idea of "Global Climate Change" was introduced in order to get the population of the world to submit to those who can "save us". Just think of the name "Global", why use that word? It isn't very scientific. Why use that word at all? Is there a different kind of climate change? Wouldn't a change in the climate over one region of the Earth create changes for the whole planet?

If that is true, then the only way to fight "Global Climate Change" is to have every last government, corporation, human being on Earth submit to laws which govern their actions as to not wrongfully harm the planet. The only way to do this is a One World Government or "Global Government". Let's say the U.S. completely cleans up it's act, but China continues to pollute. What do you do as a nation? Sanction China, refuse to import Chinese goods? Go to war to impose what's "right"?

Let's say you write a law that bans the emission of carbon monoxide (a gas poisonous to human beings). The problem is animals and human beings naturally produce this gas. Obviously a black and white ban on certain chemicals/gasses/waste will result in an unbalanced atmosphere. The Earth figured out exactly what not only humans need to breathe and live, but millions of other species of plants and animals, too. Balance cannot be imposed, it happens naturally. The people who are creating the greatest pollution are the ones who profess to know who to save us.

You must see through this scam. The most effective way to end mass pollution is to go after the polluters, not control every human on earth. But you don't think this way because "climate change" is "global". (i.e. everyone is responsible, therefore everyone must pay)

Pollution is real and a problem, which can be solved by the strict observance of property rights. "Global Climate Change" is a farce and a half-truth in order to pacify those who want to reduce pollution by directing their energies toward Global Government.



The use of the word "Global" is a psychological tool.

The very idea that global warming was "made up" to provide us with leaders whom can "save us" is just as silly as the idea that anti-global-warming ideas were made up to provide us with leaders whom can "save us". That argument is unfounded, unsubstantiated, and unrealistic. Although the corruption of Al Gore doesn't help the true greeners. Just like any movement, there are people trying to take advantage of it. We need to weed through THAT scam.

What if china doesn't clean up its act? I don't know, simple as that. We, as Americans, can be a shining example of a clean green strong nation, though. And people will follow us just as they have in the past. Someone needs to step up with solutions that don't harm the marketplace or demand too much on the citizens.

Why use the word global? Because the earth is a closed.... global.... system. You can't change one part without affecting another. Or, it's a conspiracy to make us use higher-mpg cars.

The people who create the most pollution want to "save us"? Can you explain this? BP is supporting climate change? Exxon? Really? (No, I'm not attacking these companies. They are just the result of bad policy and market forces).

I've never said to NOT go after the polluters. But the libertarian approach would be something NOT along those lines. We need to educate people on smart choices and do things to encourage the right CHOICE. Right now, the polluters aren't polluting just for fun, they are doing it for money. The market is unbalanced in favor of pollution because we don't add in the cost of pollution. We need a solution to do that. Carbon tax? No, unfair to citizens. I don't know what it would be.

I know of nobody who supports global government to solve climate change.