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davidkachel
10-07-2007, 10:43 PM
Why are people not resigning from the NRA in droves?
After decades of assaults on the 2nd Ammendment there is finally a candidate who wants not only to stop the assaults but also to reverse all the ridiculous gun laws and where is the NRA???
Nowhere! Not a peep! Why didn't the NRA back Ron Paul weeks or months ago? Why have they not made a sound? Why are they not denouncing the other Republican candidates as pro-gun frauds?
I can only conclude the NRA has sold us out or is about to. Ron Paul needs an NRA endorsement NOW, not months from now when and if the NRA deems it expedient.
If you are an NRA member please resign immediately and let them know why!

SWATH
10-07-2007, 10:47 PM
The NRA got NO LOVE at the SAF conference this weekend, it was awesome!

DeadheadForPaul
10-07-2007, 10:48 PM
The NRA wants to back Richardson. They worked against Dr. Paul in the past. Theyre scum in my book

noxagol
10-07-2007, 10:58 PM
NRA are fucktards.

LibertyEagle
10-07-2007, 11:06 PM
The NRA wants to back Richardson. They worked against Dr. Paul in the past. Theyre scum in my book

You have GOT to be kidding!??? Richardson? :eek:

Where are you getting this from? I believe you and all, I'm just in shock.

AFTFNJ
10-08-2007, 12:24 AM
The elite have probably taken control of NRA long ago.....its tactic one in there book..create & control the opposition. :mad:

Corydoras
10-08-2007, 01:32 AM
You have GOT to be kidding!??? Richardson? :eek:

Well, they already endorsed him for Governor last year. Anyway, see this:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050418/abramsky/5

Hamburglar
10-08-2007, 01:37 AM
NRA = Gun control Inc.
They are the fake opposition.

dc74rp
10-08-2007, 01:38 AM
I'm not an official member of any political organization, unless you count supporting Paul.

But I might just have to join the GOA and write a letter to the NRA telling them why.

kylebrotherton
10-08-2007, 02:48 AM
I'm not an official member of any political organization, unless you count supporting Paul.

But I might just have to join the GOA and write a letter to the NRA telling them why.

I joined yesterday. It only costs $20.
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm

Givemelibertyor.....
10-08-2007, 05:00 AM
An Open Letter To The Pro-gun Community

Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

Thursday, October 4, 2007


It may be a cliche, but it is true: This letter is written not in
anger, but in sorrow and concern. It is written to our friends about
NRA staff who, tragically, have taken a course which, we believe,
would be disastrous for the Second Amendment and the pro-gun
movement.

Two of us are Life Members of the NRA -- one of whom was an NRA board
member for over ten years. And our legislative counsel was a paid
consultant for the NRA.

So we certainly have no animus against the NRA staff, much less our
wonderful friends who are NRA members.

In fact, over the last thirty years, GOA and its staff have worked
with NRA to facilitate most of our pro-gun victories -- from
McClure-Volkmer to the death of post-Columbine gun control to a gun
liability bill free of anti-gun "killer amendments."

But those who staff the NRA, without consulting the membership, have
now made a series of strange and dangerous alliances with the likes
of Chuck Schumer, Carolyn McCarthy, and Pat Leahy. And we believe
that, if allowed to continue, this will produce anti-gun policies
which the NRA staff will bitterly regret.

Christ said, in the Sermon on the Mount, that "by their fruits, ye
shall know them." And, frankly, these fruits are not likely to
produce much pro-gun legislation.

Substantively, the Leahy/McCarthy/Schumer bill, which NRA's staff has
vigorously supported without consulting with its membership, would
rubber-stamp the illegal and non-statutory BATFE regulations which
have already been used to strip gun rights from 110,000 veterans. It
would also allow an anti-gun administration to turn over Americans'
most private medical records to the federal instant check system
without a court order.

But perhaps even worse, the bill was hatched in secret, without
hearings or testimony, and passed out of the House without even a
roll call. And now, the sponsors are trying to do the same thing in
the Senate -- in an effort to ram the bill through without votes or
floor debate, led by anti-gun Senator Chuck Schumer. If it is good
legislation, as its proponents claim, why such fears of a roll call
vote or debate in committee?

Indeed, in the face of horrific dissent from the NRA's own
membership, its staff has tragically ignored arguments and dug in its
heels -- in an almost "because-we-say-so" attitude.

Understand this:

* Passage of McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer will not quell the calls for gun
control. To the contrary, it will embolden our enemies to push for
the abolition of even more of our Second Amendment rights. Already,
the Brady Campaign has indicated its intent to follow up this
"victory" with a push for an effective ban on gun shows.

* Passage of McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer will not be viewed as an "NRA
victory." To the contrary, once the liberal media has used the NRA
staff for its purposes, it will throw them away like a used Kleenex.
Already, an over-confident press is crowing that this is the "first
major gun control measure in over a decade."

* Taking the BATFE's horrifically expansive unlawful regulations
dealing with veterans' loss of gun rights and making them
unchangeable congressionally-endorsed statutory law is NOT
"maintaining the status quo."

* We are told that the McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer bill should be passed
because it contains special provisions to allow persons prohibited
from owning guns to get their rights restored. But there is already
such a provision in the law; it is 18 U.S.C. 925(c). And the reason
why no one has been able to get their rights restored under CURRENT
LAW is that funds for the system have been blocked by Chuck Schumer.
It is no favor to gun owners for Chuck Schumer -- the man who has
blocked funding for McClure-Volkmer's "relief from disability"
provisions for 15 years -- to now offer to give us back a tepid
version of the provisions of current law which he has tried so hard
to destroy.

Finally, there is the cost, which ranges from $1 billion in the
cheapest draft to $5 billion -- to one bill which places no limits
whatsoever on spending. Thus, we would be drastically increasing
funding for gun control -- at a time when BATFE, which has done so
much damage to the Second Amendment, should be punished, rather than
rewarded.

We would now respectfully ask the NRA staff to step back from a
battle with its membership -- and to join with us in opposing
McCarthy/Leahy/Schumer gun control, rather than supporting it.

And, to our friends and NRA members, we would ask that you take this
letter and pass it on to your friends and colleagues.

Sincerely,


Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson (ret.)
Founder and Chairman

Larry Pratt
Executive Director

Michael E. Hammond
Legislative Counsel


****************************

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noxagol
10-08-2007, 06:05 AM
I joined yesterday. It only costs $20.
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm

If you get lifetime membership for $500 bucks they throw in a combat course for free, which is $800 bucks. It would make a nice vacation, at least for me lol.

quickmike
10-08-2007, 07:01 AM
NRA are fucktards.


I agree 100%

Couldnt have said it better myself.

GOA is the way to go

voortrekker
10-08-2007, 09:28 AM
I quit the NRA when they gave an "A" rating to a no name Democrat and gave Ron Paul a "B+" rating during the last district election.

This was the last straw for me.

I've been a member of both the NRA and GOA for a long time.

Now my GOA membership continues and the dues I normally give to the NRA go to GOA as a donation.

It's really sad to see the NRA go this way though, because they have such a HUGE membership base, I think around 4 million members.

Support GOA(gunowners.org).

They are very organized and send out email alerts often AND they do not compromise the 2nd Amendment like the NRA does.

tmg19103
10-08-2007, 10:17 AM
I left the NRA for the GOA over two years ago. the NRA has compromised our rights for their own personal power and ego.

DrNoZone
10-08-2007, 10:23 AM
Why are people not resigning from the NRA in droves?
After decades of assaults on the 2nd Ammendment there is finally a candidate who wants not only to stop the assaults but also to reverse all the ridiculous gun laws and where is the NRA???
Nowhere! Not a peep! Why didn't the NRA back Ron Paul weeks or months ago? Why have they not made a sound? Why are they not denouncing the other Republican candidates as pro-gun frauds?
I can only conclude the NRA has sold us out or is about to. Ron Paul needs an NRA endorsement NOW, not months from now when and if the NRA deems it expedient.
If you are an NRA member please resign immediately and let them know why!

My membership has recently expired and I WILL NOT be renewing it due to their lack of support for Ron Paul.

kylejack
10-08-2007, 10:37 AM
They worked against Dr. Paul in the past. Theyre scum in my book
This bears repeating. When Ron was running for Congress the first time, he told Tom Delay he thought that he could beat the Democrat. Rather than back Ron, Tom Delay convinced the Democrat to switch parties and backed that guy instead! Tom Delay got the elder Bush, the NRA, and many others to run ads in favor of this fake Republican that had switched parties and against Ron. Ron was heavily out-spent, but he crushed this guy in the primaries.

The NRA is not the friend of Ron Paul. They tried to stop him.

Kregener
10-08-2007, 10:44 AM
Ron Paul receives a "C" rating from the NRA, yet garners an "A" from GOA.

Did not renew my NRA membership back in 1992, joined GOA and have never looked back.

davidkachel
10-08-2007, 11:06 AM
This bears repeating. When Ron was running for Congress the first time, he told Tom Delay he thought that he could beat the Democrat. Rather than back Ron, Tom Delay convinced the Democrat to switch parties and backed that guy instead! Tom Delay got the elder Bush, the NRA, and many others to run ads in favor of this fake Republican that had switched parties and against Ron. Ron was heavily out-spent, but he crushed this guy in the primaries.

The NRA is not the friend of Ron Paul. They tried to stop him.

This is very solid proof of something I have said for years. The Democrats and Republicans have been in bed together for a long, long time. The idea is to share power by giving us the illusion there is any difference between them. There is none. They hop from one party to the other as it is convenient.

TruckinMike
10-08-2007, 11:11 AM
The Gun Owners of America Is the ONLY way to go.

The NRA has sold us down the river. They NEVER defend the 2nd as our founding fathers intended. Its always about hunting or homedefense. Not a word spoken about tyrranical governments.

Truckinmike

jb4ronpaul
10-08-2007, 11:27 AM
Second Amendment foundations awarded Ron Pul the legislature of the year award in Cincinnati yesterday! That is a wonderful organization. Everyone please join and support.

www.saf.org

winston_blade
10-08-2007, 11:36 AM
How big is the GOA compared to the NRA? I don't own a gun, but I might join anyway because I think owning a gun is important if you feel you need it.

Primbs
10-08-2007, 11:42 AM
Check out www.vcdl.org

This is the Virginia Civil Defense League. They put out a great email newsletter and many states are adopting their model. They are an activist pro gun rights group.