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FrankRep
02-27-2010, 01:20 PM
Ron Paul vs. the Naysayers (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/02/25/ron-paul-vs-the-naysayers/)

America's leading champion of liberty has some pretty vicious enemies – inside the libertarian movement


Justin Raimondo | Antiwar.com (http://www.antiwar.com/)
February 26, 2010


As someone who has recently been described as "objectively fascist (http://reason.com/blog/2010/02/23/reason-writers-around-town-mat)," I hesitate to declare "tomorrow belongs to me," but if Bill Kristol’s disdain (http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/kristol-dismisses-cpac-straw-poll-spirit-t) for those "kids" at the CPAC conference who handed Ron Paul an impressive victory (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33287.html) is any indication, the sclerotic (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28212.html) neocon establishment has given up on the youth vote – even the conservative youth vote – and the future belongs to us Paulians.

There are several reasons for Kristol’s curious indifference to the future of the movement of which he is alleged to be a leader (http://www.newamericancentury.org/williamkristolbio.htm): he’s not just trying to minimize Paul’s impact – although there’s that, too — but is at least partly sincere (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/16935). While condescension is part and parcel of the neoconservative style, this "oh they’ll get over it" attitude also reflects the experience of his own intellectual and familial forebears: his father, the late Irving Kristol (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/09/20/irving-kristol-rip/), was famously a Trotskyist in his youth, an experience he wrote about (http://www.pbs.org/arguing/nyintellectuals_krystol_2.html) and saw as nothing but positive (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/000tzmlw.asp). In discounting the radicalism of youth, Kristol is merely reiterating the storied history (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGLL_enUS359US359&q=site%3Aantiwar.com+neoconservatives+justin&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=) of his own mini-movement. How many far-leftists of the 1930s — his own father among them — started out as self-described revolutionaries dedicated to the overthrow of American imperialism, and later became vehement cold warriors (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/01/15/conservatives-team-b-revisionism/)? Oh, don’t worry, they’ll get over it!

This confession of intellectual and political bankruptcy comes at a time when the American right resembles the left in the 1930s. With the world economy collapsing (http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Depression-Guides/dp/1596980966/antiwarbookstore) all around them, and fired up by the inspiration of the Russian Revolution (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/powell-jim5.html), far-left movements sprang up like mushrooms after a rainstorm, each vying for the role of the American revolutionary "vanguard." There were Stalinists (http://history.howstuffworks.com/american-history/communist-party-usa.htm), and Trotskyists (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Fourth_International), Social Democrats (http://www.socialdemocratsusa.org/aboutus.shtml) and Lovestoneites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Labor_League_of_America), Cannonites and Shachtmanites (http://books.google.com/books?id=mzlsL5s0GXYC&pg=PA164&lpg=PA164&dq=Cannonites+1930s+-Canaanites+-Canaanite&source=bl&ots=6jkShwSw0d&sig=-zovGcni73dI15IAMEJfGj0spNM&hl=en&ei=NjWHS8XaA46YtgfMiOyXDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CA4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Cannonites%201930s%20-Canaanites%20-Canaanite&f=false) – this latter being the particular strand from which the neocons of today (http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j100103.html) are derived (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2004/07/14/the-cult-of-power/).

Out of the factional turmoil of the Left in the 1930s arose the intellectual and political establishment of the next decades: the outcome of its obscure internal disputes, argued in the arcane lexicon of Marxist theory, were later reflected in the mainstream intellectual trends and politics of much broader sectors of the American public.

Indeed, the neoconservative movement itself arose (http://www.pbs.org/arguing/) from this ferment, arriving at the seat of power at the end of a long intellectual (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm) and political (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001834779_jackson12m.html) hegira about which entirely too much has been written – including by myself (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933859601/antiwarbookstore). In the course of this odyssey, a lot of ideological baggage was thrown overboard, but, in the end, the neocons’ strategy of traveling light enabled them to achieve their goal: power (http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_inv asion_of_iraq_60). By the time they moved into their Washington, D.C., offices, riding on the back of the Reaganites (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard60.html), and ensconced themselves (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/lind1.html) in key positions during the Bush years, they had dumped every principle overboard but one: the necessity of exercising American military power on a global scale. They are and always have been the War Party (http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf) [.pdf]: internationalists, either proletarian or Wilsonian. They’re the type (http://clivedavis.blogs.com/clive/images/fred_kagan.jpg) you see at military parades, cheering just a little too loudly: down through the years, the one consistent neocon theme has been the hailing of one army or another as the savior of humanity. Whether the Red Army or the US Army was purely a matter of circumstance and convenience.

A sect whose strategy is to cultivate the elites (http://www.logosjournal.com/mason.htm) and whisper in the ear of the king has no real use for any but a certain kind of youth. The sort who, from a very early age, is a master of the main chance, a consummate opportunist, a little Peter Keating (http://books.google.com/books?id=31xclri1vZkC&lpg=PA107&dq=%22peter%20keating%22%20ayn%20rand&pg=PA107#v=onepage&q=&f=false) type fixated on climbing the ladder all the way to the top without regard for niceties. Neoconservatism, after all, is about power: the exercise (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/16378) of it, and indeed the worship (http://www.amazon.com/Monsters-Destroy-Neoconservative-War-Terror/dp/1594512760/antiwarbookstore) of it, particularly in its military manifestation. It is the young who fight the wars, and the oldsters who send them off to die, and so the War Party is naturally concentrated in an older demographic.

Aside from distrusting and disdaining the younger generation as a matter of preference and principle, however, Kristol and his fellow neocons aren’t interested in the future of the movement they claim to lead because, to them, "movement" conservatism is just a convenient vehicle (http://tinyurl.com/ybepcnn), one they hitched a ride with in the 1980s. True, it has brought them quite a long way (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/25/world/worldwatch/entry6242378.shtml) toward their goal (http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm) – but they can always jump on another bandwagon, one that’s moving faster, and it won’t be long before they’re sitting in the driver’s seat. To heck with the future, they want power now.

The Obama administration had barely arrived in Washington when the latest incarnation of Kristol’s old PNAC organization, now going under the moniker of "The Foreign Policy Initiative (http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/)," held a joint conference (http://rebelreports.com/post/92345372/why-is-the-center-for-american-progress-cavorting-with) with the two preeminent sources of mid-to-low-level appointees, the Center for a New American Security (http://tinyurl.com/ybpsfsy), and the Center for American Progress (http://www.americanprogress.org/events/2009/04/newwayforward.html). Neocons go where the power is (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/03/31/neoconservatism-the-return/), which is one reason why, as an organized movement, neoconservatism can hardly be said to exist outside of Washington, D.C., and Manhattan’s Upper West Side.

The movement spawned by Ron Paul, however, is a completely different sort of creature: it is, indeed, the exact opposite of neoconservatism in every respect. It is populist (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGLL_enUS359US359&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=ron+paul+sign&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&start=0), while the neocons are elitists: it is born of the heartland (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5564/picture2es4.png), whilst the neocons are clustered in two of the nation’s biggest cities. The defining difference, however, is that, while the neocons worship power, and dream of attaining "national greatness (http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95000513)," the Paulians are the self-described enemies of power, and dream only of taking their old republic back.

Paul’s appeal to the young is generally characterized as unlikely, and he himself emphasizes this (http://bit.ly/acO3s3), making the point that it’s not about him it’s about the ideas of liberty (http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com/html/republic.html), non-interventionism (http://original.antiwar.com/paul/), and the decentralization (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul434.html) of political authority in America. He’s "boring," he’s not a glamorous "personality," and yet he’s treated like a rock star by the young.

The reason, I think, has to do with his personality, as well as his ideas, insofar as one relates to the other: Dr. Paul is the one politician I’ve seen, the one leader of an ideological trend, who has gotten more radical as he’s gotten older. The Ron Paul of the late seventies and early eighties, while hardly (http://www.amazon.com/Foreign-Policy-Freedom-Commerce-Friendship/dp/0912453001/antiwarbookstore) a warmongering neocon, was far from the acerbic critic of American interventionism he is today. What I love about the congressman they call "Dr. No" is how, in his many interviews on television and elsewhere, he invariably (http://bit.ly/aQkhan) manages to bring up the war question – one that previous libertarian presidential wannabes only raised when directly asked. Not only that, but this persistence is rooted in an overarching critique of statism as a system: what his intellectual mentor, Murray Rothbard (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard26.html), dubbed the Welfare-Warfare State (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/rothbard_on_war.html).

Youth naturally looks for a way to explain the way the world works, and the best of them seek ways to make it work better. To any young person looking for a comprehensive worldview these days, the intellectual landscape is nearly completely barren.

On the right we have the desiccated ideologues of neoconservatism, whose concerns are so far removed from those of any ordinary youth that their leading spokesman has no trouble writing off nearly everyone on the right under thirty, aside from those directly in Rupert Murdoch’s employ or somehow or other on the neocon payroll.

On the left – well, there isn’t really a "left" anymore, at least not one I find recognizable. Gone are the New Lefties who used to "solidarize" with the struggles of the Third World against colonialism: likewise, the Old Lefties who used to quote Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky are nearly vanished. In their place we have a "progressive" movement determined to force poor people to pay for health insurance they can’t afford. As Fafblog (http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/mule-variations.html) put it:

"As disappointed as we might be in Barack Obama – in his little failings, in his petty slights, in his odd betrayals, in his unseemly habit of dancing naked through the streets of Oslo smeared with the blood and entrails of Afghan children – we also know that the alternative would be far worse. Why, with a Republican president, we might be at war with Iraq (http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2009/07/last-best.html), Afghanistan (http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2009/09/nothing-is-fucked-here.html), Pakistan (http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/23/at-least-65-killed-as-us-drones-attack-south-waziristan-funeral-procession/), Yemen (http://www.amconmag.com/article/2010/mar/01/00006/), Somalia (http://news.antiwar.com/2009/09/14/us-troops-attack-somalia/), and possibly Iran (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100215/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_clinton_mideast), or facing some hideously draconian corporatist scheme to compel poor people to buy private insurance (http://blog.healthcareforamericanow.org/2009/09/24/mandate-no-public-option-unpopular-taxpayer-bailout-of-private-insurance/) they can’t afford, with a government that not only excuses the torture regimes of the past (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B94U220091210) but dramatically expands them (http://www.alternet.org/rights/128273/) while giving itself license to murder anyone it likes (http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/27/yemen/index.html) anywhere on the planet. With Barack Obama, on the other hand, we have all that plus a man who can sparkle wittily on late night television. Now, I think that has to be worth at least a couple thousand dead Muslims, don’t you?"

Faced with the grim choice of Charybdis and Scylla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylla_and_Charybdis), no wonder young people on the right – and the left – are turning to the Paulian vision of constitutional government and a foreign policy based on the Founders’ warning (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul356.html) against entangling alliances and militarism. As the economic and social crisis ramps up, and the intellectual bankruptcy of the Kristols and the regime apologists becomes all too apparent, that the youth of America are rallying to the one pure banner of unreconstructed idealism should hardly come as a surprise. No more of a surprise than the smear campaign (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/ron-paul-still-as-scary-a_b_470707.html) unleashed by the anti-Paulistas, and not just the neocons but their "libertarian" enablers.

The Beltway libertarians, especially those at Reason magazine and the Cato Institute, have been overtly hostile to the Ron Paul phenomenon from the beginning. I’ve written about this at length in this space, and I won’t reiterate the dynamics of the debate except to say that the Paulians get under the skin of the Reasonoids and the Cato-ites for many of the same reasons they’re hated by the neoconservatives: principally, their populism. In particular, Paul’s application of the theories advanced by the economist Ludwig von Mises that explain the business cycle as due to central bank credit expansion – and the policy prescription that flows inevitably from that, expressed in the Paulian slogan "End the Fed!" – has them nervously explaining at Washington cocktail parties that they’re not that kind of libertarian.

Reason has become a major vehicle (http://www.takimag.com/site/article/why_the_beltway_libertarians_are_trying_to_smear_r on_paul/) of the most scurrilous sort of anti-Paul propaganda, an effort to smear the Good Doctor as a racist and anti-Semite. The anti-Paul mini-movement was spearheaded, during the presidential primaries, by Jamie Kirchick, Marty Peretz’s Renfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renfield), and Matt Welch (http://www.takimag.com/site/article/who_is_matt_welch/), then the newly-minted editor of Reason, who isn’t and never was any kind of libertarian.

Welch’s condescending, disdainful attitude toward the movement he’s marketing his magazine to comes through loud and clear in this Bloggingheads episode (http://reason.com/blog/2010/02/23/reason-writers-around-town-mat), in which the topic is Paul and the apparent success of the Paulian movement.

This is the very same Bloggingheads dialogue during which Eli Lake, his sparring partner, describes me as "objectively fascist." This was said after Welch explained why there would always be "at least an arm’s length" between Reason and Antiwar.com, although both are explicitly libertarian institutions, because we supposedly object to even rhetorical support for "freedom-seeking people around the world." As anyone who has read my articles on events inside Iran (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/06/21/iran%E2%80%99s-green-revolution-made-in-america/), and the former Yugoslavia (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGLL_enUS359US359&q=justin+yugoslavia+site%3Aantiwar.com&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=), would know, this is utter nonsense: I only object to the cooptation of such freedom-seeking movements by the US government, which invariably uses them as an instrument of its interventionist foreign policy – and promptly dumps them when they are no longer useful.

Lake, a former "reporter" for the New York Sun – a newspaper that once called for banning (http://www.slate.com/id/2078455/) an antiwar march in New York City on the grounds that the marchers were engaged in sedition – has since graduated to the Moonie-owned Washington Times, where he’s survived the recent purges and is now, as he himself puts it, a "credible reporter" on national security issues.

So how did I earn the "f"-word designation? Am I a follower of the doctrines espoused by Benito Mussolini? Am I an advocate of organizing industry into government-controlled "syndicates," a system in which the individual is subordinated to the all-powerful State?

Well, no, not exactly: according to the oh-so-"credible" Lake, I’m "objectively fascist" because I have written (http://www.antiwar.com/israeli-files.php) – "with great glee" — that Israeli intelligence had some foreknowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and because I think that there was an Israeli cell working inside the Pentagon during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.

Here is my answer (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm) to the first allegation, which he dismisses as an "anti-Jewish" canard. Until Carl Cameron repudiates his four-part series broadcast by Fox News in December, 2001, which made the very same claim, and which, furthermore, disclosed crucial evidence pointing to that conclusion, I will continue to raise this question without apology. I challenge Lake to deny the veracity of this report: if I’m "anti-Semitic" for citing Cameron’s work, then what about Fox News and Cameron – are they "anti-Semites," too? Or is it just little old me?

As to the second allegation, that an Israel-loyal cabal infiltrated the Pentagon, I own up to that one, too: has our "credible" security expert ever heard of a man named Larry Franklin (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:dxxOH5y1dAkJ:news.findlaw.com/nytimes/docs/dod/usfrnklin80205ind.pdf+larry+franklin+indictment&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgo-OEtWEI3BrXKfbj_kL8FHpaLxoX4YkkgYi3viFzpW1uoGaYTYRu UiHf-b9N_oci7gFh3FdVYPZS0w3dugAsqnMN-9fwtGFvMcp8NPzsbZMoo0TxYzupCNRoZDbboGiSnAYNF&sig=AHIEtbSw1RanMXS8zc876KfPwbALokRDwA)? One can engage in a technical and legal argument over whether Franklin and his handlers – AIPAC honchos Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman – committed espionage in pilfering sensitive and closely-held national security secrets, and handing them over to Israeli government employees, but surely they constituted a cell that operated inside the Pentagon’s policymaking component. The cabal was centered in the department overseen by Douglas Feith (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1202105/posts) – whose resignation, under mysterious circumstances, was preceded by a full-bore FBI counterintelligence investigation into the neocon network of which Franklin was a part.

Welch, for his part, didn’t disagree with Lake: instead, he said he wouldn’t agree with him "more out of politeness than anything else." The best response to that bit of snarky cowardice was posted in the comments by a reader, who wrote:

"Hey, Welch, how come you didn’t call bullshit on your pal when he started in with the "objectively pro-fascist" crap? Didn’t you used to think (http://reason.com/blog/2005/08/29/the-rhetorical-hitcheroo) that was stupid? And here was your chance to repudiate the whole concept, but you passed. Why?"

Follow the above link, and you get to a piece by Welch in which he takes Christopher Hitchens to task for popularizing on the neoconservative right the tendency of leftists to label their enemies "fascists, and I quote:

"Hitchens’ biggest new fans are especially fond of extrapolating from George Orwell’s old saw (http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/pacifism/english/e_patw) about pacifism being "objectively pro-fascist," sometimes as headlines (http://vodkapundit.com/archives/008012.php) on links to Hitch’s latest. But as Eric Blair’s modern popularizer (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465030491/reasonmagazineA/) knows too well, Orwell — whose original essay, it should be mentioned, was referring to British pacifists during Hitler’s bombing siege of London – repudiated (http://mattwelch.com/archives/week_2005_07_24.html#003190) his ‘objectively pro-fascist’ line before the War was even over, in an essay about propaganda that’s well worth your time.

When it comes to Antiwar.com, and Ron Paul, however, the normal rules don’t apply. It’s only natural that Welch, who started out his career as a "war-blogger (http://mattwelch.com/Sept11.html)" along the lines of Charles Johnson, would fear and loathe not only Antiwar.com, but also Rep. Paul, whom Reason has also kept "at arm’s length. No sooner had the "objectively fascist" post appeared on "Hit and Run," the Reason blog, then it was time to post, the very next day, a remarkably ignorant hit piece (http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/the-ron-paul-delusion/) aimed at Paul by David Harsanyi, a third-rate neocon columnist for the Denver Post and author of the forgettable book, Nanny State, a hackish reiteration of material plenty of libertarian authors have covered more comprehensively elsewhere. Senor Harsanyi doesn’t like the Nanny State, except when it’s slaughtering those naughty Afghans and Pakistanis, in which case it ceases being a Nanny State and starts becoming his State.

In any case, the Harsanyi hit piece was the usual neocon smear-job: really just name-calling wrapped in a penumbra of disdain for the "crazy old uncle" and his "delusional" "conspiracy theorist" followers. In a follow-up (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2010/02/24/more-on-ron-paul/), he claims Cato Institute president and founder Ed Crane had a conversation with Paul in which the latter supposedly said that the mailing list of The Spotlight – a now defunct weekly newspaper run by professional anti-Semite and nutball of renown Willis Carto – always brought in the best results in his direct mail campaigns. As to whether Crane will step forward and claim this smear as his own, only time will tell. But this, I think, settles the question of where the impetus for the anti-Paul smear campaign is coming from: it is emanating from the Beltway "libertarians" of Crane’s ilk, who envy Paul and revile the hardcore libertarian tradition he represents.

Yet these are minor bumps in the road, more instructive than substantial: when the history of the libertarian movement in this era is written, it is Paul and his supporters who will be honored as pioneers, and the Ed Cranes and Matt Welches who will be reduced to a footnote. The intellectual emptiness of their "libertarianism" is all too apparent: they have reduced the freedom philosophy to an affectation. Paul, on the other hand, has expanded it into a mass movement, one that is reaching more people every day with its unabashedly radical message.

Yes, the future belongs to us – if we can muster the focus to ignore the naysayers, and take it.


SOURCE:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/02/25/ron-paul-vs-the-naysayers/

silverhandorder
02-27-2010, 02:02 PM
Obligatory it's the jews fault.

Great article, makes one hopefull about the future.

FrankRep
02-27-2010, 06:00 PM
What going on over at REASON Magazine? They praise National Review/William Buckley Jr and call Ron Paul Crazy, Delusional.



William F. Buckley, Jr., RIP
Farewell to the man who created intellectual space for the libertarian movement (http://reason.com/archives/2008/02/27/william-f-buckley-jr-rip)


REASON Magazine
February 27, 2008



I received the news of Bill Buckley's death with a great sense of loss. No, he was not a major intellectual influence on my becoming a libertarian. I have to credit Robert Heinlein and Barry Goldwater and Ayn Rand for that. But since for most of us libertarianism as an intellectual and political movement has been an offshoot of conservatism, Buckley in truth was a great enabler.

By creating National Review in 1955 as a serious, intellectually respectable conservative voice (challenging the New Deal consensus among thinking people), Buckley created space for the development of our movement. He kicked out the racists and conspiracy-mongers from conservatism and embraced Chicago and Austrian economists, introducing a new generation to Hayek, Mises, and Friedman. And thanks to the efforts of NR's Frank Meyer to promote a "fusion" between economic (free-market) conservatives and social conservatives, Buckley and National Review fostered the growth of a large enough conservative movement to nominate Goldwater for president and ultimately to elect Ronald Reagan.
...

Some commentators dubbed Buckley a "libertarian conservative," and in the broadest sense, I guess that was true. Though he seldom let National Review deviate from his own Catholic social issues positions (especially on banning abortion), Buckley courageously took a stance against drug prohibition, making common cause on that issue with Friedman and other libertarians. And that enlightened view seemed to survive Buckley's retirement as the magazine's editor in chief (as one hopes it will survive his demise).
...


SOURCE:
http://reason.com/archives/2008/02/27/william-f-buckley-jr-rip



In other news....


The Ron Paul Delusion
Why the Texas congressman does not represent the future of conservatism (http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/the-ron-paul-delusion)



REASON Magazine
February 24, 2010



If only it stopped there. Paul isn't a traditional conservative. His obsession with long-decided monetary policy and isolationism are not his only half-baked crusades. Paul's newsletters of the '80s and '90s were filled with anti-Semitic and racist rants, proving his slumming in the ugliest corners of conspiracyland today is no mistake.

Perhaps the greatest tragedy of Paul is that thousands of intellectually curious young people will have read his silly books, including End the Fed, as serious manifestoes. Though you wouldn't know it by listening to Paul or reading his words, libertarians do have genuine ideas that conservatives might embrace.


SOURCE:
http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/the-ron-paul-delusion

BillyDkid
02-27-2010, 06:39 PM
this was a terrific piece. Thanks to Justin.

angelatc
02-27-2010, 06:45 PM
this was a terrific piece. Thanks to Justin.

He's such a good writer. Every time I read him, I am thankful that he's on our side.

Even if I do have to look words up sometimes.
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disorderlyvision
02-27-2010, 10:45 PM
good read!

DirtMcGirt
02-27-2010, 11:18 PM
That was really good...

Liberty Stud
02-27-2010, 11:54 PM
Well written. I like this guy.

Those two douchebags on the webcam are a joke.

hugolp
02-28-2010, 07:51 AM
Great piece. I think I am goint to start visiting antiwar.com.


Well written. I like this guy.

Those two douchebags on the webcam are a joke.

Indeed. I think Raimundo described them very well: "The intellectual emptiness of their "libertarianism" is all too apparent: they have reduced the freedom philosophy to an affectation." Thats exactly the impresion they give.

FrankRep
04-03-2010, 09:09 AM
The Beltway libertarians, especially those at Reason magazine and the Cato Institute, have been overtly hostile to the Ron Paul phenomenon from the beginning.

Why is this?

amy31416
04-03-2010, 09:59 AM
The Beltway libertarians, especially those at Reason magazine and the Cato Institute, have been overtly hostile to the Ron Paul phenomenon from the beginning.

Why is this?

My guess is that they're infected with the DC parasite, just like every other Republican and Democrat that spends too much time there, and Ron Paul makes them feel like the sellout douchebags that they are.

Imperial
04-03-2010, 11:11 AM
Just because Reason doesn't report 100% in favor of Ron Paul doesn't mean they are inherently biased against Paul.

The author of the Antiwar piece picked out a couple of authors, like Welch and Harsanyi. There are other authors and editors over there who have given us great press. It is easy to forget senior editor Brian Doherty who has been pretty supportive of Paul. And David Weigel, back when he was over there, gave decent press too.

I often laugh when people would tell me Weigel was biased against us. Weigel was just a good reporter. He would note the good and the bad in the libertarian movement. Even today, look in the Washington Independent and alot of the big press stories for liberty candidates start b/c he took the time to write an article.

Now, are there substantial differences in Reason and Antiwar? Sure. Do they BOTH have good and bad? Yes.

Anti Federalist
04-03-2010, 11:16 AM
This is a longstanding war that goes back to the 50s.

We are, to the "respectable libertarian/republican" crowd, the lunatic fringe, the JBS mob, the hillbilly's that they wouldn't want mowing their lawns.

Ron Paul is the figurehead of that faction, hence the hatred.

Buckley and his followers have been trying to run us off for decades.

RileyE104
04-03-2010, 11:37 AM
This is so confusing... Do Drew Carey and that Nick guy still support Ron? Or should I unsubscribe from Reason TV on my YouTube account...

Aratus
04-03-2010, 11:50 AM
the anti-war people obviously have a take on the current war-drums.
the nE0-c0Ns seek another zone or front, many sane minds are NO-GO!

Pericles
04-03-2010, 12:01 PM
The Beltway libertarians, especially those at Reason magazine and the Cato Institute, have been overtly hostile to the Ron Paul phenomenon from the beginning.
Why is this?

Foriegn policy - those guys favor a more aggressive stance vis a vis "enemies" of the US, rather than a non interventionist view.

Old Ducker
04-03-2010, 12:01 PM
Great article.

Distinguished Gentleman
04-03-2010, 12:16 PM
The reason for the Reason foundations disdain for Paul, as best I can tell, is a matter of how they want to be seen and decades old policy dispute:
A: They've never seen themselves as an anti-fed organization, firing Murray Rothbard because of his emphasis on the issue. The Gold Standard is considered to be a "fringe" issue and they want Libertarianism to be a part of the mainstream national discussion.
B: Cultural Differences. Hinted at in the article. Ron is religious and Reason is explicitly not so. Ron is from Texas and they are D.C. kind of guys. The term "cosmotarian" has been used to describe them.
C: Corporate ties and possible corruption. The Koch (pronounced coke) brothers that fund Reason and Cato are among the richest men in America and donate more to republican causes than anyone else. It was theorized by Rothbard that they very strongly supported NAFTA because it benefited their oil business. Rupert Murdoch was once a senior fellow at the Cato institute. None of this implicates them in any crime but it is reason to be suspicious.

My overall impression is that the organization, at the top, seeks to advocate overall sound policy without overturning the established order too much. They work with and praise Republicans that are much less Libertarian than Paul, like Jeff Flake and Paul Ryan, for example. It is hard to tell how much of the disdain for Paul is personal and how much is policy related, but it is apparent with the top brass.

Their are a lot of great people and ideas within the Reason Foundation and Cato, I just wouldn't trust them or monetarily support the upper management due to their vitriol toward us.

Imperial
04-03-2010, 12:28 PM
This is so confusing... Do Drew Carey and that Nick guy still support Ron? Or should I unsubscribe from Reason TV on my YouTube account...

Why not just keep watching it if you like the material and use your critical thinking skills to decide when you disagree?

SociallyRenderedImage
04-03-2010, 12:30 PM
I wouldn't call Kristol a libertarian in the least. He (or better his dad) is the founder of the Trotskyite NeoCon movement.

He simply maintains the current fissure in America by doing "his part" on the so-called right. His counterparts do the same on the so-called left.

Ron Paul actually has some enemies within this is true, some who even work for him at a local level in Houston. Many Democrats supported Ron Paul, not because they believe in America or the Constitution, but because they saw in him an opportunity to "Ross Perot" the Republican party. There are some, motivated by left wing strategists, who see Libertarianism as an opportunity to present open borders/amnesty arguments by exploiting common colloquial misunderstandings of Libertarianism. Many openly mis-represent Ron Paul for the sake of globalist, open borders agendas.

It should be mentioned that some supporters simply see Ron Paul as stirring up the system, but refuse to look at why he is rightfully doing so. They simply see it as a way to continue the exploitation of the fissure. Many of his Texas campaign workers were active college dems and are contributing to his mis-representation.

There is a contingent which wants him to (rightfully so) bring the failings of the Republican party to light, but does not want him to succeed at this and bring change. A low level, on-line example of this can be found by examining the presence and image of Ron Paul on this forum. During the election focus was painted on the issues and Ron Paul's stance, after the election when the spirit of revolt was on the rise the image of Ron Paul was desecrated to appear as anarchist. The idea was to pin the extreme and unattainable forms of Libertarianism on him to ensure that he not gain ground. During elections it was Ron Paul the visionary, when he was poised to affect change the oligarchy and their zealots painted him as an anarchist freak.

So those are the real enemies. Folks who take possession of Ron Paul and paint a quick reference online image of him as something he is not. This is primarily motivated by the fringe open borders/amnesty movement and by neocons, who wish to see him fail. Attack the misrepresentations of Ron Paul, prevent online zealots from painting him in a different light than his positions and you ensure he (and the Constitution) succeeds. Allow bizarre constituents of the fringe left to paint a public picture of him that is contrary to his stance and he loses....It is that simple.

Imperial
04-03-2010, 01:17 PM
Ron Paul actually has some enemies within this is true, some who even work for him at a local level in Houston. Many Democrats supported Ron Paul, not because they believe in America or the Constitution, but because they saw in him an opportunity to "Ross Perot" the Republican party. There are some, motivated by left wing strategists, who see Libertarianism as an opportunity to present open borders/amnesty arguments by exploiting common colloquial misunderstandings of Libertarianism. Many openly mis-represent Ron Paul for the sake of globalist, open borders agendas.

Umm, I would argue open borders is the more libertarian position. Now is it the right position? there is your more debatable assertion. But many open borders libertarians I have seen do support Ron Paul because on the whole his ideas would massively help the philosophy of freedom take root.

Vessol
04-03-2010, 01:50 PM
+1776

Awesome article.



The Beltway libertarians, especially those at Reason magazine and the Cato Institute, have been overtly hostile to the Ron Paul phenomenon from the beginning.

Why is this?

The old party Libertarians don't want to "win". They want to permanently be a small group of smug individuals whom hate the fact that Ron Paul is popular.

low preference guy
04-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Reason and Cato's founders (Koch brothers) hated Mises from the beginning. They don't want to emphasize opposition to Central Bank. That's why for so many years they were opposed to the Mises Institute, Rockwell, Rothbard. They're also opposed to Ron Paul, reflected in the fact that they are donating a lot of money to Trey Grayson and none to Rand Paul. In other words, they see us a bigger enemy than the neocons. Therefore it's obvious they are fake libertarians. For decades they marginalized those who questioned the Fed, which is, along with war, one of the two most important libertarian issues. They're not really good on war either.

As for the reason writers, some of them stick to their guns and publish what they think independently of what their Koch bosses want. Brian Doherty is one example, and he can't be fired because he has a great reputation among reason readers. So when you read reason, you gotta do it carefully, but be aware that the owners hate us more than any other group.