Beck says he read Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy & Hope"

[emazur]

Yeah , yeah "not another Beck thread", "Beck is a phony", etc.
But I find this somewhat interesting - I've never heard of Tragedy & Hope ever being mentioned in the media before (for those who don't know, Tragedy & Hope is the ammo used by "Conspiracy theorists" to prove the existence of a New World Order, and how the FED/CFR/Trilateral Commission are contributing to such a movement. I first heard of it when I read Creature from Jekyll Island over a year ago)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587374,00.html

After the 9/11 attacks perpetrated by Al Qaeda, I started doing my homework. I was a pretty lazy American and decided to educate myself. I read "Tragedy and Hope." It was written in the 1960s by a very well-respected professor — he's taught at Georgetown, Harvard, Princeton — named Carroll Quigley. He was a very close mentor to Bill Clinton; he's advised other presidents.

Quigley had a better idea than the Doomsday Device or mutually assured destruction to prevent nuclear war; tragedy is war, the hope was an end to the wars.

Instead of tying everybody to a master computer, they decided to tie the world's economies together. That way no country would dare wage total war on another without risking the destruction of its own economy. The book came out in the early '60s — can you think of a war since then where there has been a clear winner and loser since then? Vietnam. The Gulf wars. Afghanistan. The War on Terror. They did this to stop wars. Just like it's mutually assured destruction if someone launches a nuclear weapon; this is mutually assured economic destruction.

[FrankRep]

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Professor Carroll Quigley praises the efforts of an "international Anglophile network" whose goal is to rule the world. He boasts of having been permitted "to examine its papers and secret records," confirms the existence of an over-arching conspiracy, and details the origin and eventual power of the Council on Foreign Relations and allied groups. (1997 ed, 1,348pp, hb)


YouTube - CFR and the Media (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNLgQqQsY80)

[paulitics]

Beck is once again mixing truth with bullshit by suggesting that the globalists had noble intentions when conspiring to set up "a new word order". Give me a break.

[haaaylee]

Didn't Ron (or one of them) mention it during the gathering Nader, Ron, McKinney, and Baldwin had during the presidential race? I remember loving that it was brought up, mostly in regards to third parties not being allowed into debates since Perot.

[AParadigmShift]

Did Quigley know the score, or what. . .




The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the Right, and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.... [E]ither party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same policies.

[someperson]

Did Quigley know the score, or what. . .

+1

Oh, and... not another Beck thread. Beck is a phony :)
☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹

[FrankRep]

Bill Clinton speaks of Carroll Quigley at 1992 Democratic National Convention

YouTube - Bill Clinton speaks of Carroll Quigley at 1992 Democratic National Convention (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMVVQLA_dGg)

[RJB]

Beck says he read Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy & Hope"

So the publisher came up with a picture book or pop up version for Beck to read:confused:?

[sofia]

No way A.D.D - addled Beck read a 1400 page academic snoozefest like Tragedy and Hope. What he probably read was Cleon Skousen's "The Naked Capitalist" which was essentially a breakdown of Tragedy and Hope for the common man.

[emazur]

Didn't Ron (or one of them) mention it during the gathering Nader, Ron, McKinney, and Baldwin had during the presidential race? I remember loving that it was brought up, mostly in regards to third parties not being allowed into debates since Perot.

found it:
YouTube - Ron Paul Sobre Carroll Quigley (Ron Paul on Carroll Quiqley) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g1TaYYGv8Q)

[Griffith]

Did Quigley know the score, or what. . .


The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the Right, and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.... [E]ither party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same policies.





Wow, spot-on

[johngr]

Yeah, he read it all right. It's his fucking bible.

[Baptist]

No way A.D.D - addled Beck read a 1400 page academic snoozefest like Tragedy and Hope. What he probably read was Cleon Skousen's "The Naked Capitalist" which was essentially a breakdown of Tragedy and Hope for the common man.

It should be very clear to everyone, not only that Beck is a fraud, but that he reads this site (or other grassroots sites), steals our ideas, and pawns them off as his own. A perfect example of this was when Beck "busted" the 12-year-old girl who asked Obama why Republicans are against healthcare. Beck did not bust jack. Bryan (from our own RPFs) shot some footage that Internet bloggers used to piece together the puzzle-- the girl was the daughter of a top Obama campaigner. Beck went on national TV showing Bryan's footage, and claimed that his team found out that the 12-year-old girl (who was all over national press) was not some random girl, but the daughter of a top campaigner.

So no, Beck did not read tragedy and hope. He has seen it mentioned on this site, or other Paul grassroots sites, or alternative news sites like Alex Jones. I've been obsessed with researching truth/liberty/NWO for two years now and I haven't even read Quigley's book. There is no way that Beck just happened to read that after 9/11.

Beck is a liar. "men of high degree are a lie..." - Psalm 62:9


[edit] ROFL If he has read it, then it's because of what Johngr said above me.

[johngr]

^ That was a joke (obviously). He probably hasn't read it. He's a pawn. His handlers have, though.

[FrankRep]

found it:
YouTube - Ron Paul Sobre Carroll Quigley (Ron Paul on Carroll Quiqley) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g1TaYYGv8Q)

Ron Paul knows about Carroll Quiqley! Very cool.

[itshappening]

Ron paul !!!

[amonasro]

Beck supporters are like battered wives. They just keep on taking it, one hit after another, in vain hope that this hit may be the last, and that he has finally seen the light. Guess what the outcome is.

[FrankRep]

Professor Carroll Quigley:


There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so.

I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it, or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies… but in general, my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
- Page 950, Tragedy & Hope


The Naked Capitalist (http://www.skousen2000.com/political%20products/capitalist.htm)

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In “The Naked Capitalist” , Dr. Skousen reviews the book “Tragedy and Hope” by Carroll Quigley. It reveals how some of the richest people in the world have supported communism and socialism. Why would they support what appears to be the pathway to their own destruction? Dr. Quigley has been associated with many of these dynastic families of the super-rich. He therefore writes as an authority on the world's secret power structure. His answers to the above question may astonish you.

Get it:
http://www.skousen2000.com/political%20products/capitalist.htm

[emazur]

Beck was talking about Quigley and Tragedy & Hope today for a bit if anyone's interested - talking about the world entanglements in war. Sorry, no tube

[MN Patriot]

The elite want to keep the common man busy and distracted from the fact that they have enslaved them into an elaborate web of debt, taxes, duty, politics. Suppose we had free markets, limited government, liberty. With today's technological advancements, our work week could be 2 or 3 days. What would be do with all that spare time? Educate ourselves? Partake in noble undertakings? Naw, we'd drink beer and hustle up some hookers. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. So you see, it is in our own best interest to have the elite Establishment run things.