Purdue Exponent: Ron Paul not popular enough to talk about

[FrankRep]

Purdue Exponent didn't include Ron Paul in their Presidential Poll. I was curious why so I sent a message.

The message I sent to him:


Leroy Bridges
Editor in Chief
The Exponent, Purdue's Daily Independent Student Newspaper
editor@purdueexponent.org
765.743.1111 ext. 207
765.532.2964


Hello,

Where is Ron Paul? I don't think you realize how popular he is. Research him.

Jack Cafferty on Ron Paul. CNN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXe7cOsWjwk

Ron Paul on Wolf Blitzer Situation Room
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGFyh92HoCU

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HIS Reply

I understand your opinion on Ron Paul, however, we were simply doing a
small representation of the favorites.

As the latest polls show,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html
Ron Paul is not in the top five.

Thank you for reading and your feedback.

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In a friendly way, let him know about popular Ron Paul is. I bet he thinks no one supports him.

BE FRIENDLY.

[BLS]

Dear Leroy Bridges,

Although I understand that Ron Paul’s polling numbers are very low in comparison to the other ‘frontrunners’, I think you’ll find that his internet support is astronomical.
Matter of fact, this could be an excellent story for your newspaper. I think by doing some research on Ron Paul, you will find that he is much more popular than the polls would ever indicate.

Thank you for your time.

Chris Chandler

[BLS]

BUMP...c'mon people...take 10 seconds to send this guy an email.

[foofighter20x]

I sent him an email. I was nice and factual about how bogus polls are. :)

[fez2008]

May be you can post this evidence?
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Look at the variations considering the 4% margin of error :
2nd quarter (poll results from Jun 15th Gallup):
Reps total = $49 mil
-- - Poll - Expected Actual(funds raised in mil)
RG - 29% - 14.2-- 17.0 -> 34% of funds
JM - 20% - 10.0-- 11.59 -> 23% of funds
MR - 8% - 4.0-- 12.0 -> 24% of funds (anamoly)
RP - 2% - 0.98-- 2.4 -> 4.8% of funds
MH - 3% - 1.76-- 0.77 -> 2.5% of funds
DH - 2% - 0.9-- 0.81 -> 2 %
SB - 2% - 0.9-- 1.43 -> 3%
TT - 1% - 0.44-- 1.46 -> 3%

Dems total = $81 mil
-- Poll Expected Actual
HC - 33% - 27.00-- 26.0 -> 32% of funds
BO - 21% - 17.00-- 32.0 -> 39.5% of funds (anamoly)
JE - 13% - 10.53-- 8.9 -> 11% of funds
BR - 5% - 4.05-- 6.9 -> 8.5% of funds
JB - 3% - 2.43-- 2.3 -> 3% of funds
DK - 1% - 0.81-- 0.8 -> 1% of funds
MG - 1% -


3rd quarter(poll results from Sep 15th Gallup):
-- - Poll Expected Actual
RG - 30% - 13.2-- 11.0 -> 25% of funds
FT - 22% - 9.68-- 9.3 -> 21% of funds
JM - 18% - 7.92-- 6.0 -> 14% of funds
MR - 7% - 3.08-- 10.0 -> 23% of funds (anamoly)
RP - 4% - 1.76-- 5.1 -> 12% of funds (anamoly)
MH - 4% - 1.76-- 1.1 -> 2.5% of funds
DH - 2% - 0.9--
SB - 2% - 0.9--
TT - 1% - 0.44--

-- Poll Expected Actual
HC - 47% - 27.26-- 22.0 -> 37% of funds (anamoly)
BO - 25% - 11.75-- 19.0 -> 32% of funds (anamoly)
JE - 11% - 6.38-- 7.0 -> 12% of funds
BR - 5% - 2.9-- 5.3 -> 9% of funds
JB - 3% - 1.74-- 2.0 -> 3% of funds
DK - 2% -
CD - 1% - 0.58-- 1.5 -> 2.5% of funds
MG - 1% -

Conclusions:
RP must be atleast at 8-9%
BO and MR are also having this problem of not registering the actual support in polls

[jb4ronpaul]

Dear Leroy,

Ron Paul is number one in internet searching, youtube, and social networking.

Ron Paul was number 3 in fund raising last quarter, after Giulliani and Thompson.

Ron Paul is number one in grassroots activity, there are over 50,000 people signed up on ronpaul.meetup.com. Next largest candidate is Obama with 6000. Republicans are almost not present.

Ron Paul is number one real life support. At a rally this weekend in Memphis 1500 people turned out. No other Republican can come close to that.

Do you think despite all this because he is not in the on top in outdated polls he is not in the top 5? There is a lot of evidence to suggest the way the polls are done they end up excluding many Ron Paul supporters.

Thank you for your consideration and look forward to your response.

[Taco John]

Purdue Exponent didn't include Ron Paul in their Presidential Poll. I was curious why so I sent a message.

The message I sent to him:


Leroy Bridges
Editor in Chief
The Exponent, Purdue's Daily Independent Student Newspaper
editor@purdueexponent.org
765.743.1111 ext. 207
765.532.2964


Hello,

Where is Ron Paul? I don't think you realize how popular he is. Research him.

Jack Cafferty on Ron Paul. CNN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXe7cOsWjwk

Ron Paul on Wolf Blitzer Situation Room
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGFyh92HoCU

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HIS Reply

I understand your opinion on Ron Paul, however, we were simply doing a
small representation of the favorites.

As the latest polls show,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html
Ron Paul is not in the top five.

Thank you for reading and your feedback.

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In a friendly way, let him know about popular Ron Paul is. I bet he thinks no one supports him.

BE FRIENDLY.



I'm running into this problem and writing every author of articles who exclude or discount Paul based on polling. Here is a very effective message that gets the point across:


The feet on the ground outnumbering every other Republican candidate in grass roots support runs contrary to what the poll numbers are saying. Democracy is a participatory process. You should really look at who is participating to base your opinion, not who is sitting at home pressing 1 for Giuliani, 2 for Mitt Romney, 3 for Fred Thompson, 4 for John McCain and 5 for a list of other candidates. It's my opinion that you are short changing the democratic process and putting too much power into "methodology" when you lean too heavily on land-line polling to base your opinions of this race, especially in a day of caller-ID (I don't personally answer any number I don't recognize) and cell phones. Votes come from people motivated to get to the polls, not from people plunging a button on their phone.



I've raised some eyebrows with a couple media guys using this, receiving responses that they would consider this angle in the future.

[margomaps]

Ron Paul was number 3 in fund raising last quarter, after Giulliani and Thompson.

Be careful with facts! McCain actually raised more than Ron in the 3rd quarter.

[BrianH]

Be careful with facts! McCain actually raised more than Ron in the 3rd quarter.

romney also?

Here's my e-mail:
Dear Editor,

Since you haven't included Ron Paul in your recent poll - perhaps you can consider running it again with all candidates just for comparison? I think you'd be in for a big surprise. Ron Paul is WINNING the majority of the GOP straw polls - a fact not reported in the media. See: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

And he's getting huge support with young people. The reason is he is down in the telephone polls is that routinely they do not include him in the first list offered but only lumped into other candidates. Or sometimes the polls prescreen to registered republicans with land lines, ignoring the masses with cell phones or who are undecided.

I hope you'll consider a wider poll or story on Ron Paul


With Best Wishes

[Hook]

Just keep a copy of all these articles so when Dr. Paul wins, we can put them all in a scrapbook. :D

[ronpaulitician]

Paul doing better in the polls is the only thing that will silence the remaining critics.

[madcat033]

I decided to go in a different direction:


Hi, I was just wondering why a bunch of candidates were left off your presidential poll on your homepage? First, I don't think it's very responsible for a media outlet to leave off any official republican candidates. You skew public opinion, by insinuating that those are the only candidates running (or at least the only candidates who you believe have a chance, and are therefore the only ones worth voting for). By skewing public opinion like this, you are subverting and influencing our democratic processes in America. A media outlet's goal should be to provide unbiased reporting. You should only report public opinion, not influence public opinion.

Is adding a few extra choices to your poll really that big of a deal? I don't understand why you would leave them off in the first place. Do these three extra spots incur significant costs to the newspaper? Can you explain to me the reason why these candidates were left off in the first place?

Thank you,
Stephen

[PrimarilyPaul]

I'm running into this problem and writing every author of articles who exclude or discount Paul based on polling. Here is a very effective message that gets the point across:

The feet on the ground outnumbering every other Republican candidate in grass roots support runs contrary to what the poll numbers are saying. Democracy is a participatory process. You should really look at who is participating to base your opinion, not who is sitting at home pressing 1 for Giuliani, 2 for Mitt Romney, 3 for Fred Thompson, 4 for John McCain and 5 for a list of other candidates. It's my opinion that you are short changing the democratic process and putting too much power into "methodology" when you lean too heavily on land-line polling to base your opinions of this race, especially in a day of caller-ID (I don't personally answer any number I don't recognize) and cell phones. Votes come from people motivated to get to the polls, not from people plunging a button on their phone.

I've raised some eyebrows with a couple media guys using this, receiving responses that they would consider this angle in the future.

I just want to say that is a very well written statement.

[FrankRep]

bump

[RobotJaxxon]

I am a Purdue alum.

Don't waste your time. Really, don't.

[Ninja Homer]

Point them to Ron Paul's straw poll results:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

Out of 30 straw polls, Ron Paul has won 13 of them, and was in the top 5 in 28 of them.

[micahnelson]

http://www.micahnelson.com/?p=122

I wrote about the whole polling numbers issue on my blog, feel free to have a look.

[BrianH]

I got the same reply! At least it was personally addressed. My reply:

Dear Leroy,

Thanks for your attention. There's a new poll showing Ron Paul is 3rd in Michigan and 4th in New Hampshire among eligible Republican Primary voters who declare themselves to be "moderates".

See: http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/ron-paul-surging-in-the-polls-among-moderates.html

So this tends to reinforce the notion that the national polls are skewed heavily toward the traditional pro-war base amongst the Republicans and exclude a surge of potential new Republican voters.

He's also by far the most searched name among all Presidential Candidates; http://www.google.com/trends?q=ron+paul%2C+fred+thompson%2C+hillary+clin ton%2C+mitt+romney%2C+barack+obama&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2007-10&sort=0

Some other measures which indicate that the telephone polls may be wrong include the fact that he's participated in 5 Republican televised debates and won 4 of them in the polls conducted by the broadcasters, often by a large margin and despite the fact that controls were in place to limit only one vote per phone or IP address.

Below is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul#Internet_popularity

Paul has participated in five Republican presidential debates, four of which he won according to the sponsors' own online or text-message phone polls. After the first debate, ABC News noted Paul's robust online presence: "His supporters have mastered the art of 'viral marketing,' using Internet savvy and blog postings to create at least the perception of momentum for his long-shot presidential bid."[142] U.S. News reported his increasing online popularity: "His supporters have flocked to the Internet with such enthusiasm that Paul is now showing up among the much richer candidates in various measures of Internet traffic".[17] USA Today calls Paul an "online natural".[14]

Paul's Internet presence has been measured by his ranking as a top Internet search term by Technorati,[17] Hitwise,[15] and Alexa,[16] which compare popularity in the blogosphere. While some claim a small number of supporters intentionally inflate Paul's rankings and skew the statistics,[143] Technorati spokesman Aaron Krane affirms his company's position that Paul's search popularity is genuine to the best of their knowledge.[17] Paul claims the most YouTube views of all presidential candidates, over 4.3 million,[18] and the most subscriptions of all candidates, having surpassed Barack Obama on May 20, 2007.[144] Paul's YouTube channel is among the Top 40 most subscribed of all time, achieving 30,293 subscribers on October 9, 2007.[19]


I hope you'll reconsider your decision as Ron Paul has a huge following amongst young people and students

Thanks again,

Brian H


On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Leroy Bridges wrote:

Brian,

I understand your opinion on Ron Paul, however, we were simply doing a
small representation of the favorites.

As the latest polls show,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html,
Ron Paul is not in the top five.

Thank you for reading and your feedback.

Leroy Bridges
Editor in Chief
The Exponent, Purdue's Daily Independent Student Newspaper
editor@purdueexponent.org

[stevedasbach]

Any Purdue alums here?

[akovacs]

I'm a current grad student at Purdue. I got our whole meetup to write the exponent.

I would seriously recommend that people who are not Purdue students/alumni please not write in. It won't get published and you're going to annoy the editor more than convert him. The paper is meant for people who are familiar with Purdue. It would be like me sending a letter to be published in a CA college paper: You just don't have any credibility with the people there.

If you want to do us a favor, please go to the Exponent website here (http://purdueexponent.org/), and vote for "Other" and leave it at that. We're working on getting several ads put in the paper as a rebuttal in the tailgating edition. Our primary isn't until May so we will have plenty of time to get them to change their mind.

[Cindy]

I'm a current grad student at Purdue. I got our whole meetup to write the exponent.

I would seriously recommend that people who are not Purdue students/alumni please not write in. It won't get published and you're going to annoy the editor more than convert him. The paper is meant for people who are familiar with Purdue. It would be like me sending a letter to be published in a CA college paper: You just don't have any credibility with the people there.

If you want to do us a favor, please go to the Exponent website here (http://purdueexponent.org/), and vote for "Other" and leave it at that. We're working on getting several ads put in the paper as a rebuttal in the tailgating edition. Our primary isn't until May so we will have plenty of time to get them to change their mind.

Nice work and advice. I voted other. Let them wonder who that "other" 70% is for that they didn't include.

[BLS]

I got a reply from Bad Bad Leroy.

Chris,

I understand your opinion on Ron Paul, however, we were simply doing a small representation of the favorites.

As the latest polls show,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html,
Ron Paul is not in the top five.

Thank you for reading and your feedback.

Leroy Bridges
Editor in Chief
The Exponent, Purdue's Daily Independent Student Newspaper editor@purdueexponent.org
765.743.1111 ext. 207
765.532.2964

[madcat033]

Stephen,

I understand your opinion, however, we were simply doing a
small representation of the favorites.

As the latest polls show,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html,

Thank you for reading and your feedback.

Leroy Bridges
Editor in Chief
The Exponent, Purdue's Daily Independent Student Newspaper
editor@purdueexponent.org
765.743.1111 ext. 207
765.532.2964

[unklejman]

Some one ask him for a real answer and include:


I understand your opinion, however, we were simply doing a
small representation of the favorites.

As the latest polls show,
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ation-192.html,

Thank you for reading and your feedback.

Leroy Bridges
Editor in Chief
The Exponent, Purdue's Daily Independent Student Newspaper
editor@purdueexponent.org
765.743.1111 ext. 207
765.532.2964

In your email, asking him to not respond that way... lol.

[FrankRep]

http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=8470


Exponent overlooks Ron Paul, students don't

Publication Date: 11/15/07


As a Purdue Alum and Ron Paul supporter, I find it disturbing that today's Exponent completely overlooked the biggest campaign success story of the 3rd Quarter 2007. Ron Paul had more than a double increase in contributions, coming out ahead of nearly all other Republicans in term of cash on hand/in the bank after debts are paid. The Exponent should make up for this oversight by doing a nice article on the candidate and his overwhelming grassroots presence on the Purdue campus through his thriving local Purdue student organization.

RON PAUL RAISED FIVE MILLION IN QUARTER 3 2007 and still has FIVE MILLION IN THE BANK AND GROWING FAST!

Trenton Feuerbach

Alumnus

http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=8470

[ronpaulyourmom]

http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=8470


Exponent overlooks Ron Paul, students don't

Publication Date: 11/15/07


As a Purdue Alum and Ron Paul supporter, I find it disturbing that today's Exponent completely overlooked the biggest campaign success story of the 3rd Quarter 2007. Ron Paul had more than a double increase in contributions, coming out ahead of nearly all other Republicans in term of cash on hand/in the bank after debts are paid. The Exponent should make up for this oversight by doing a nice article on the candidate and his overwhelming grassroots presence on the Purdue campus through his thriving local Purdue student organization.

RON PAUL RAISED FIVE MILLION IN QUARTER 3 2007 and still has FIVE MILLION IN THE BANK AND GROWING FAST!

Trenton Feuerbach

Alumnus

http://www.purdueexponent.org/?module=article&story_id=8470

lol nice one.

I hope you saved that old email also...when Ron Paul makes it into the top 5, be sure to use the reply button :)

[FrankRep]

Leroy,

I still don't think you realize how popular Ron Paul is. :-)

Take care,

Frank

What I just sent to him.

[ronpaulyourmom]

What I just sent to him.

lol!

[LFOD]

Gah! All these polls are driving me nuts. Actually, no, it's not the polls. It's the smug attitude by those who take them to be The Last Word on Who Will Win The Election.

Oh well. It'll be that much sweeter when they desperately scramble around at a total loss trying to explain how Ron Paul won primaries. :)

[FrankRep]

Gah! All these polls are driving me nuts. Actually, no, it's not the polls. It's the smug attitude by those who take them to be The Last Word on Who Will Win The Election.

Oh well. It'll be that much sweeter when they desperately scramble around at a total loss trying to explain how Ron Paul won primaries. :)

"The primaries were stacked!" "They hacked the voting machines!"

[torchbearer]

Emailed Leroy the straw polls results.

[torchbearer]

Email read: "If you aren't able to read the information below please let me know... I'll try to make it as simple as possible... Ron Paul is popular. Notice all the first place finishes in straw polls across the country? People had to drive and pay to vote in the majority of these straw polls. Almost like an election, you have to get up and go vote. Seems more accurate than call people who still own landlines that voted for Bush in the last election. I'd say about 5% of those people support Ron Paul.

Brent Sanders"

then i posted the straw poll results in nice readable format.

[torchbearer]

Of course, it probably isn't as effective to try and rally an email barrage at midnight... I just so happen to be off tomorrow. :)

[FrankRep]

Of course, it probably isn't as effective to try and rally an email barrage at midnight... I just so happen to be off tomorrow. :)

I don't want the poor guy slammed with tons of emails. Just a few, ya know.

[torchbearer]

Well, He doesn't seem to pick up on things real fast... he may need to read the same data 1000 times before it starts to dawn on him...

[RonPaulwillWin]

Tried hard not to be a jackass cause I'm drunk. But I thought I would contribute. The email has already been sent, but still let me know if it makes absoloutly no sense. I was just trying to give him a little guilt trip.

Subject: Question about the polls

Just wondering why you did not include Ron Paul in your poll? I know he's low in the polls but this is 2007, there are other mediums for mass communication other than lan lines these days. I'm sure there are thousands of people wanting to choose him but it's not an option, so its very frustrating to me and everybody else.

-Eli


Ill update this post if I get a response

[Mark]

Just keep a copy of all these articles so when Dr. Paul wins, we can put them all in a scrapbook. :D

Yeah, and shove them up George Snugglepuss' nose.

[Thom1776]

Dear Lloyd Bridges:

Loved you in Airplane!