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Knightskye
02-24-2010, 02:31 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/DavidHarsanyi/2010/02/24/the_ron_paul_delusion


Let's, for a moment, forget Paul (and how I wish this could be a permanent condition, considering the congressman is neither a serious politician nor -- and I can't stress this enough -- a serious thinker).

I'm not sure what a "serious politician" is. But not a "serious thinker"?

What does Harsanyi think of this video?
YouTube - The Philosophy of Liberty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I)


Libertarianism offers conservatives -- many of them new to political activism -- an earnest ideological alternative to the process-heavy politics that dominate Washington.

No, it offers them a way to raise some serious campaign cash and get re-elected.


If only it stopped there. Paul isn't a traditional conservative. His obsession with long-decided monetary policy and isolationism are not his only half-baked crusades. Paul's newsletters of the '80s and '90s were filled with anti-Semitic and racist rants, proving his slumming in the ugliest corners of conspiracyland today is no mistake.

(Un)fortunately, Harsanyi doesn't go into depth about his monetary policy complaint.

Also, he apparently hasn't seen Paul's CPAC speech this year, where he showed many examples of the traditional conservative foreign policy.

Although he writes for Reason.com (as a contributor, not a staffer), I guess he hasn't read the article about the newsletters:
http://reason.com/archives/2008/01/16/who-wrote-ron-pauls-newsletter

Yet in interviews with reason, a half-dozen longtime libertarian activists—including some still close to Paul—all named the same man as Paul's chief ghostwriter: Ludwig von Mises Institute founder Llewellyn Rockwell, Jr.

That was in the first paragraph.


Perhaps the greatest tragedy of Paul is that thousands of intellectually curious young people will have read his silly books, including "End the Fed," as serious manifestoes. Though you wouldn't know it by listening to Paul or reading his words, libertarians do have genuine ideas that conservatives might embrace.

The Revolution was a great book, though.

Genuine ideas like government transparency? Auditing the Fed, which all of the House Republicans (though certainly not all 'conservative') have cosponsored?

Sure, we're the delusional ones. :rolleyes:

Matt Collins
02-24-2010, 01:56 PM
Here is what I just e-mailed:



I just subscribed to Reason a couple of days ago, and now I see a piece such as this:
http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/the-ron-paul-delusion (http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/the-ron-paul-delusion)

What the hell kind of crap is this?


Even if the author wanted to downplay Ron Paul, (which I think would be a bad idea considering the audience) though I would personally disagree with it, calling Ron Paul a racist, an anti-Semite, an isolationist, and silly, is not only vile but just plain shoddy writing causing your publication to be lowered to the level of 3rd grade name calling. If one has an opinion of Ron in the negative then one should be able to articulate their points in a rational, logical fashion, not merely listing insults many of which are indeed false Trotsky-type fabrications. While it is important to have discussion and even critique about the direction of the liberty movement and its leaders, when I signed up for Reason I expected a higher level of discourse than this garbage piece.

I also disagree with the premise of the piece but if it was written in a more objective scholastic type of manner it would at least be tolerable; it currently is not. Were the editors asleep at the wheel here?


And are you aware of what kind of bad PR this piece is generating for your magazine? This reflects very poorly on Reason and is souring your core audience. Take a look: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=233228 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=233228)



I am now reconsidering my subscription because of this. Your public response and retraction of this stain upon Reason will determine my decision.


Matt Collins
Nashville, TN / Orlando, FL

gls
02-24-2010, 02:03 PM
Although he writes for Reason.com


Big surprise.

The beltwaytarians are getting desperate now that they're losing their grip on defining 'libertarianism' for the establishment. Ron Paul's continued prominance on the national stage shows them to be the proponents of failed statist policies that they are.

Knightskye
02-24-2010, 04:16 PM
Big surprise.

The beltwaytarians are getting desperate now that they're losing their grip on defining 'libertarianism' for the establishment. Ron Paul's continued prominance on the national stage shows them to be the proponents of failed statist policies that they are.

Well, Harsanyi could learn something from Brian Doherty, who also recently wrote an article about Paul (without baseless accusations)
http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/24/the-paulpocalypse/1

I'm keeping my Reason RSS feed, though. When I load an article and see that Harsanyi wrote it, I go to the next one, haha. :D