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clb09
02-22-2010, 06:23 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/joe-stacks-daughter-samantha-bell-calls-dad-hero/story?id=9903329


Ken Hunter, son of Vernon Hunter, who was killed in the attack, said Stack's not the hero in this situation, but his father is.

"How can you call someone a hero who after he burns down his house, gets into his plane... and drive it into the building to kill people?" Hunter told "Good Morning America." "My dad Vernon did two tours of duty in Vietnam. My dad's a hero."

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Ethek
02-22-2010, 08:52 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/joe-stacks-daughter-samantha-bell-calls-dad-hero/story?id=9903329



http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/abc_JoeStack_100222_mn.jpg

No moral victory is possible when everyone is right. Government has defined the rules we live our lifes by and those same rules define our deaths.

constituent
02-22-2010, 08:58 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/joe-stacks-daughter-samantha-bell-calls-dad-hero/story?id=9903329



http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/abc_JoeStack_100222_mn.jpg

that's from a news8austin interview. if you're interested, they've probably got the original up on their site.

did you know that this guy was in a band with a writer at the austin american statesman? one that was the target of attacks by the dailykos folks for his critique of their netroots gathering? he dogged pelosi and some other prominent hacks and it got their panties all bunched.

this story is pretty interesting, all the little auxiliary pieces, the kevin bacon game stuff.


Sunday's Statesman had this little bit of mind candy (http://www.statesman.com/news/local/lucky-coincidence-may-have-saved-lives-262042.html)
bonus points if you can determine the individual whose idea it was to hold the monthly drill across the interchange!

Anti Federalist
02-22-2010, 04:03 PM
Ken Hunter, son of Vernon Hunter, who was killed in the attack, said Stack's not the hero in this situation, but his father is.

"How can you call someone a hero who after he burns down his house, gets into his plane... and drive it into the building to kill people?" Hunter told "Good Morning America." "My dad Vernon did two tours of duty in Vietnam. My dad's a hero."

So, Stack is evil for burning down his own house and flying into the IRS building.

And Hunter is a hero for, basically, doing the same thing, only in a far away place, to strange looking people with a funny language.

All so Bill Clinton could, decades later and millions dead later, negotiate a "free trade" agreement with Vietnam allowing all our underwear to be made by them and throwing whole textile towns into poverty.

That about the long and short of it?

silus
02-22-2010, 04:04 PM
They should leave his daughter alone.

Vessol
02-22-2010, 04:07 PM
From what I keep hearing about Joe Stack, he keeps sounding like a level-headed rational individual. I guess he was just pushed too much or something, just strange IMO.

TheEvilDetector
02-22-2010, 04:18 PM
So, Stack is evil for burning down his own house and flying into the IRS building.

And Hunter is a hero for, basically, doing the same thing, only in a far away place, to strange looking people with a funny language.

All so Bill Clinton could, decades later and millions dead later, negotiate a "free trade" agreement with Vietnam allowing all our underwear to be made by them and throwing whole textile towns into poverty.

That about the long and short of it?

Having a think about what you said, the summary seems fairly accurate.

Principle of "Might makes right" (which is ever present) gives government legitimacy in a lot of what they do which would otherwise not be acceptable to individuals.

Stack considered IRS his enemy, the same way US Govt considers some tribesmen in the mountains their enemy and when you kill enemies you get collateral damage. But collateral damage inflicted by US Govt consists of hundreds of thousands of people, yet through the application of overbearing "might makes right" principles this does not result in the outrage that such numbers would otherwise be capable of producing.

As Stalin once said: "One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic".

Even the sadistic power mad individuals are capable of being truthful.

Keller1967
02-22-2010, 04:29 PM
Why did his daughter retract her statement? :(

Vessol
02-22-2010, 04:33 PM
Why did his daughter retract her statement? :(

People would have gone on a nationwide attack. I can hear and see's Nancy Grace's ugly face now..

silus
02-22-2010, 04:34 PM
No one expects his daughter to not defend him. No one would attack her except some pathetic hosts grasping for ratings. There would be no nationwide attack.

silverhandorder
02-22-2010, 05:19 PM
No one expects his daughter to not defend him. No one would attack her except some pathetic hosts grasping for ratings. There would be no nationwide attack.

If we were rational human beings. Leave the poor woman alone.

Anti Federalist
02-22-2010, 05:22 PM
Principle of "Might makes right" (which is ever present) gives government legitimacy in a lot of what they do which would otherwise not be acceptable to individuals.



Bingo.

Especially if you do it while dressed in a fancy government suit.

james1906
02-22-2010, 05:48 PM
Ironically, the daughter lives in Norway and finds the government less intrusive despite such high taxes.

mczerone
02-22-2010, 05:51 PM
So, Stack is evil for burning down his own house and flying into the IRS building.

And Hunter is a hero for, basically, doing the same thing, only in a far away place, to strange looking people with a funny language.

All so Bill Clinton could, decades later and millions dead later, negotiate a "free trade" agreement with Vietnam allowing all our underwear to be made by them and throwing whole textile towns into poverty.

That about the long and short of it?

Murder = Non-State assassinations

Terrorism = Non-State bombings.


There is no culpability if you kill for a flag, and the State will never admit otherwise.