View Full Version : Rachel Maddow Talks to the John Birch Society
Flash
02-21-2010, 06:53 PM
http://gawker.com/5475780/john-birch-society-chats-with-rachel-maddow-at-cpac
I can't watch the whole video since it keeps lagging my computer but heres Maddow @ the JBS booth.
FrankRep
02-21-2010, 07:00 PM
YouTube - Rachel Maddow Talks To John Birch Society About Water Fluoridation! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7IwGOgjNOU)
At least Rachel Maddow had a civil conversation with the John Birch Society.
The JBS has responded to her attacks in the past:
Rachel Maddow Recycles Falsehoods Against the John Birch Society
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2602-rachel-maddow-recycles-falsehoods-against-the-john-birch-society
Rachel Maddow Exposes Her Youth, Inexperience, and Political Correctness
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2645-rachel-maddow-exposes-her-youth-inexperience-and-political-correctness
Rachel Maddow, Black Helicopters, and the New World Order
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2667-rachel-maddow-black-helicopters-and-the-new-world-order
Maddow Displays Dishonesty; Ignores Official Report About JBS
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2680-maddow-displays-dishonesty-ignores-official-report-about-jbs
SWATH
02-21-2010, 07:06 PM
I just love how she can take any serious issue and turn it into a flippant joke.
Cowlesy
02-21-2010, 07:51 PM
Well she's not a journalist, so I wouldn't expect her to do a serious interview.
I can understand being flippant about stuff written by their founder 50-odd years ago that was certainly weird, but I met Mr. McManus (the President to whom she was speaking) and found him to be a thoughtful and friendly fellow.
You catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar, Ms. Maddow.
And frankly, 50 some years ago when we didn't have as great of science as we do today, Communism was a serious threat to the United States, fluoridation of water was a new thing coupled with the example Mr. McManus cited, I think Robert Welch's skepticism was prudent, given the time.
There's nothing wrong with asking questions only to later find out the exact conclusions speculated were not correct.
But it is a lay-up if you want to trash someone.
Flash
02-21-2010, 07:53 PM
By the way if you watched the video in the OP, the President of JBS asked Maddow directly if he would get to appear on her show and she kind of just dodged the question.
FrankRep
02-21-2010, 08:21 PM
Oh those crazy Birchers, they think Fluoride is bad for your health!
Fluoride Action Network
http://www.fluoridealert.org/
Mercola.com: What Your Dentist Isn’t Telling You About Fluoride
http://www.mercola.com/article/links/fluoride_links.htm
Fluoridation / Fluoride | Toxic Chemicals In Your Water
http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/
The Dangerous Fluoride Deception You Need to be Aware Of
http://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2007/06/05/The-Dangerous-Fluoride-Deception-You-Need-to-be-Aware-Of.aspx
Finally - Even Dental Association Agrees Fluoride is Bad
http://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2007/06/11/Finally--Even-Dental-Association-Agrees-Fluoride-is-Bad.aspx
Is fluoride considered a poison in most European countries?
http://health.howstuffworks.com/fluoride-poisoning.htm
Fluoride Toxicity
http://www.health-science.com/fluoride_toxicity.html
Is fluoride safe?
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/healthy-living/is-fluoride-safe-780948.html
I just love how she can take any serious issue and turn it into a flippant joke.
well, it is kind'ova hilarious joke.
YouTube - Dr. Strangelove - Fluoride Water Scene 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL9g3s6Fro)
FrankRep
02-21-2010, 08:41 PM
CPAC 2010 – JBS Conversation with Rachel Maddow
http://www.libertynewsnetwork.tv/?p=101
FrankRep
02-21-2010, 09:06 PM
Rachel Maddow is one ugly son a of a bitch and a neocon to boot.
Rachel Maddow isn't a neocon. She's a progressive liberal.
Cowlesy
02-21-2010, 09:07 PM
Rachel Maddow isn't a neocon. She's a progressive liberal.
Upon further review of the poster's history, he is a duplicate account of a previously banned user.
Moving along now...
MN Patriot
02-21-2010, 09:29 PM
ha ha ha, what a clever liberal she is. Water softeners are a communist conspiracy. ha ha ha
Don't let the liberals distract us from our goal: ending the communist, Karl Marx inspired income tax and the communist, Karl Marx inspired Federal Reserve System.
purplechoe
02-22-2010, 04:15 AM
so what did I learn from this report... the communists use fluoride...
lester1/2jr
02-22-2010, 08:24 AM
is flouridation a big issue in the election this year?
FrankRep
02-22-2010, 08:29 AM
is flouridation a big issue in the election this year?
Rachel Maddow is just trying to mock the John Birch Society.
jmdrake
02-22-2010, 08:38 AM
It's too bad McManus wasn't better prepared to answer the question. But that's what happens when you're bushwacked by a question you're not suspecting just like Debra Medina was bushwacked by Glenn Beck. Had McManus been prepared he could have pointed out to Maddow that the ADA has recommended against mothers using fluoridated water to make baby formula. See below.
YouTube - Doctor Exposes Fluoride as Poison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7IPDfC3yg)
lester1/2jr
02-22-2010, 09:13 AM
why not ask them about current events?
FrankRep
02-22-2010, 09:16 AM
why not ask them about current events?
It's the media's job to demonize the John Birch Society, just like they demonize Ron Paul.
lester1/2jr
02-22-2010, 09:59 AM
why are they such assholes. how does this help america?
jmdrake
02-22-2010, 10:02 AM
why not ask them about current events?
John McManus (president of the JBS) brought up the fluoride question to Rachel Maddow and not the other way around. You can't tell that from the YouTube, but you can if you watch the entire video linked in the OP.
FrankRep
02-22-2010, 02:00 PM
This was the JBS reply in The New American article about Maddow.
Rachel Maddow Exposes Her Youth, Inexperience and Political Correctness
http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5800-rachel-maddow-exposes-her-youth-inexperience-and-political-correctness
Fluoridation of Water Supplies
Maddow then claimed that the Society considered the addition of fluoride to the drinking water “a communist mind-control plot.” She produced a page from a 1960 JBS publication that never said what she claimed while it recommended that citizens oppose the practice “if communists have been able to beguile a sufficiently large enough” portion of the population to want this questionable form of mass medication.
The chief reason why the Society opposed adding that substance to the water supplies was always that doing so is indicative of totalitarian control. Fluoride in the water treats the people whereas chloride added to reservoirs treats the water. The totalitarian mindset behind such a practice was referenced in an August 10, 1968 Boston Globe article. Tufts University School of Medicine Professor Dr. Melvin Ketchel approvingly stated in the article that authorities could add birth control substances to the water supply in order to control population growth.
In his 1968 book The Population Bomb, Paul Ehrlich commented: "Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size."
Adding fluoride to water supplies wasn’t a “communist mind-control plot,” as Maddow erroneously claimed was the position of The John Birch Society. But the practice provides evidence of the kind of totalitarianism characteristic of communists and those who have been captured by their style of thinking.
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/bostonglobe.001.jpg
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