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bbachtung
10-07-2007, 11:43 AM
Truth Squad: Are Giuliani's Tax Cuts Exaggerated?
By Carl Quintanilla
CNBC.com
| 05 Oct 2007 | 06:05 AM ET

Rudy Giuliani is getting out in front of next week's CNBC presidential debate with a seven-day media blitz touting his record as an economic conservative.

In it, he claims to have cut taxes 23 times as mayor of New York. And he says New Yorkers had a 17% reduction in tax burdens during his tenure.

Giuliani takes credit for cutting taxes on everything from property to sales of clothes — even coin-operated amusement devices.

But a closer look at the numbers show he's claiming credit for some tax cuts that weren't his idea to begin with. And others that he actively opposed.

For instance, seven tax cuts that he says were his were actually initiated by New York State. Giuliani may have supported the measures, but they were never floated by his office. That's according to the Independent Budget Office, a publicly funded watchdog group.

Then there's the granddaddy of New York tax cuts -- the ending of a 12.5% surcharge on personal income tax. Giuliani cites it as his No. 1 achievement on taxes -- and he did initially propose it, but then later dropped his support for the measure, even fighting it before finally giving in to the city council. It was the largest New York City tax cut in history.

FactCheck.org says Giuliani probably deserves credit for $5.4 billion in tax reductions — not the nearly $10 billion he claims.

When it comes to taxes, Giuliani may, in fact, be a conservative. But his critics say he's also guilty of a little exaggeration.
© 2007 CNBC.com

URL: http://www.cnbc.com/id/21138037/

TheEvilDetector
10-07-2007, 01:27 PM
There is no bullshit meter that can withstand the torrent of lies coming out of the cross-dressing, fascist, psychopathic, liar's mouth.

Rude Juliani knowns no limits, because his ethical awareness is on permanent vacation.

Kregener
10-07-2007, 01:35 PM
Rudy did "cut taxes" while he was Mayor of NYC.

But he did nothing to cut SPENDING, and in fact, increased it, so the fine residents were and are left holding the bag.

This is exactly what every President in America has done since Lincoln's War, and exactly what ANY other president will continue to do...except Ron Paul.

cjhowe
10-07-2007, 01:38 PM
The disturbing thing about Giuliani is that he takes credit for cutting marginal tax rates, but because of the positive economic effects of that end up increasing the tax revenues. Because the government takes in more revenues, this should still be construed as a tax increase. This is the same issue I take with Romney talking about running the government like a business. In today's business climate, a well run business is measured in growth. Both Giuliani and Romney are running on a platform of government growth.

MsDoodahs
10-07-2007, 01:50 PM
I wonder if Carl let Money Honey know about this?

TheEvilDetector
10-07-2007, 02:08 PM
The disturbing thing about Giuliani is that he takes credit for cutting marginal tax rates, but because of the positive economic effects of that end up increasing the tax revenues. Because the government takes in more revenues, this should still be construed as a tax increase. This is the same issue I take with Romney talking about running the government like a business. In today's business climate, a well run business is measured in growth. Both Giuliani and Romney are running on a platform of government growth.

Yeah, when Giuliani claims to be such a big tax cutter (btw he takes credit for some taxes that weren't his idea and some of which he actually opposed at certain times) implying he wants to help the people and then in the same breath he talks about an overall revenue increase, it is sickening.