Hillary and Obama's silence fishy?

[Liberty Star]

More international condemnation is pouring in in the aftermath of reported assassination of a Palestinian leader in Dubai hotel by Israeli agents who entered UAE using stolen European passports and tasered the man to death in his hotel room. Haaretz is reporting that Israeli PM had approved this assassination. This is looking like case of state sponsored terrorism by the biggest recepient of US aid, why are Sec of State Hillary Clinton and Obama completely mum about this international scandal?

Last time Israeli agents were caught engaging in terrorism targetting US/UK buildings in Egypt using stolen identities, Israeli PM had to resign. Could this lead to fall of Netanyahu regime if he did authorize this?



21/02/2010

Report: PM approved Dubai assassination in early January

By Yossi Melman, Ofer Aderet, Liel Kyzer, Barak Ravid and Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondents, and Haaretz Service

Tags: Mossad, Hamas

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu authorized in early January the assassination of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, according to a report published in the Sunday Times.





20/02/2010

French FM: Dubai killing proves need for a Palestinian state

By News Agencies

Tags: Dubai killing, Mossad

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said in an interview published Saturday that the January assassination of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai demonstrates the need for an immediate recognition of a Palestinian state.

"[The case] shows the need for peace and a Palestinian state, immediately," Bernard Kouchner told the French Journal du Dimanche.

Kouchner added that the assassination, which Hamas believes was carried out by the Israeli Mossad, underscores the need for peace in the Middle East.

Also on Saturday, French Prime Minister Francois Fillon condemned the assassination of Mabhouh and called for the truth about the killing to be established.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1151042.html

YouTube - Israeli envoy summoned over fake passports (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFwYN95d5PE)

[t0rnado]

Remember when Israel tried this crap in New Zealand? The mossad agents were arrested and Jewish graveyards were destroyed and swastikas were everywhere.

[Liberty Star]

Hopefully such mob attacks against innocent people are isolated incidences:


Bomb hurled at main synagogue in Cairo; no casualties 14:34

Hillary and Obama should show leadership on this and make a public condemnation. How could we be tolerant of an "ally" breaching airport security of another "ally" by using stolen and fake diplomatic passoprts of our European allies in the post 9/11 world to engage in extra-judicial killings of opponents?


Link to operation susannah cited above that led to fall of Israeli PM who had authorized those acts of terrorism in Egypt:



Operation Susannah

The top-secret cell, Unit 131, which was to carry out the operation, had existed since 1948 and under Aman since 1950. At the time of Operation Susannah, Unit 131 was the subject of a bitter dispute between Aman {military intelligence} and Mossad {national intelligence agency} over who should control it.

Unit 131 operatives had been recruited several years before, when the Israeli intelligence officer Avram Dar arrived in Cairo undercover as a British citizen of Gibraltar called John Darling. He had recruited several Egyptian Jews who had previously been active in illegal emigration activities and trained them for covert operations.

Aman decided to activate the network in the spring of 1954. On July 2, they firebombed a post office in Alexandria, and on July 14, they bombed the U.S. Information Agency libraries in Alexandria and Cairo and a British-owned theater. The homemade bombs, consisting of bags containing acid placed over nitroglycerine, were inserted into books, and placed on the shelves of the libraries just before closing time. Several hours later, as the acid ate through the bags, the bombs would explode. They did little damage to the targets and caused no injuries or deaths.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair#Operation_Susannah

[Liberty Star]

This scandal keeps on growing:


February 18, 2010

Arrest the head of Mossad, says Dubai police chief

Jenny Booth, Hugh Tomlinson, Sheera Frenkel and David Sharrock

The International Policing Organisation has issued "red notices" for the hit squad who used false identities when they targeted the Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.

But Dahi Khalfan Tamin, the emirate's police chief, called for such a warrant to be used against the head of Mossad as well because he belives it is likely that the Israeli spy agency was behind the killing.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7032394.ece

[Liberty Star]

This could be potentially a troubling developement for many innocent travellers. How many in Obama adminstration and Congress have dual passports? If this is true report, Obama White House Chief of Staff and some of his advisers can no longer visit UAE? Do Senators Lieberman and Kerry have dual passports?

Dubai may have opened pandora's box with this drastic measure to keep out few suspected terrorists:



01/03/2010


'Israelis no longer allowed in Dubai after Hamas hit'

By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and News Agencies

Dubai's police chief said on Monday that travelers suspected of being Israeli will not be allowed into the United Arab Emirates even if they arrive with alternative passports.

Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim says the move comes after the killing of a Hamas operative in Dubai, blamed by the Emirates authorities on Israel's Mossad spy agency.

Tamim said a 26-member team used European and Australian passports to enter the country in January and kill Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.


"We will not allow those who hold Israeli passports into the UAE no matter what other passport they have," Tamim said.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1153053.html



Two of the suspected terrorists may have entered the US:


MARCH 1, 2010

Two Dubai Suspects Traveled to U.S.

By CHIP CUMMINS
DUBAI—At least two of the 26 suspects sought by Dubai police for the alleged killing of a top Hamas leader appear to have entered the U.S. shortly after his death, according to people familiar with the situation.

Records shared between international investigators show that one of the suspects entered the U.S. on Feb. 14, carrying a British passport, according to a person familiar with the situation. The other suspect, carrying an Irish passport, entered the U.S. on Jan. 21, according to this person. Senior Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Mabhouh's body was found in a Dubai hotel room on Jan. 20.

There aren't records of either man leaving the U.S., though investigators can't be sure the two are still in the country, according to this person. Since the two were traveling with what investigators believe to be fraudulently issued passports, they may have traveled back out of the U.S. with different, bogus travel documents.

The suspected U.S. travel broadens to American shores the international manhunt triggered by Dubai's investigation into the death of Mr. Mabhouh. Dubai police have already identified two U.S. financial companies they believe issued and distributed several credit cards used by 14 of the suspects in the alleged killing.

A U.S. State Department spokesman declined to comment.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704089904575093881279902928.html?m od=rss_Today's_Most_Popular

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[Liberty Star]

MSNBC for a change does some investigative journalism. This stuff is hitting the fans now and making top headlines now on google world news:


Dubai police chief says to seek Netanyahu arrest

DUBAI
Tue Mar 2, 2010 5:52pm EST

http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100302&t=2&i=69470920&w=460&r=2010-03-02T225239Z_01_BTRE6211QD500_RTROPTP_0_ISRAEL

DUBAI (Reuters) - Dubai's police chief plans to seek the arrest of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the head of Israel's spy agency over the killing of a Hamas leader in the emirate, Al Jazeera television reported.

World

Dahi Khalfan Tamim "said he would ask the Dubai prosecutor to issue arrest warrants for ... Netanyahu and the head of Mossad," the television said. It did not give details.

Tamim has said he is "almost certain" Israeli agents were involved in the killing of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh at a Dubai hotel in January, calling for Mossad's boss, Meir Dagan, to be arrested if it is proved responsible. Tamim said on Monday Mossad had "insulted" Dubai and Western countries whose fraudulent passports were used by suspects in the assassination.

Dubai has asked the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation to look into prepaid cards issued by the Meta Financial Group's MetaBank which the suspects used, a United Arab Emirates newspaper said.

Citing an FBI source, The National newspaper said the investigation would look into any Israeli involvement in the killing.

"Thirteen of the 27 suspects used prepaid MasterCards issued by MetaBank, a regional American bank, to purchase plane tickets and book hotel rooms," the newspaper said, quoting Dubai police.

MetaBank said it followed proper procedures when it issued the cards.


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6214TT20100302?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r1:c 0.568000:b31267856:z0





Hamas assassination: Debit cards issued by firm with Israeli ties

The Hamas assassination in Dubai involved a number of people who traveled under the stolen identities of Israeli dual nationals. The pre-paid debit cards the alleged assassins used to pay their hotel bills while in Dubai also have connections to Israel.


http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0302-dubaicredit/7494471-1-eng-US/0302-DubaiCredit_full_380.jpg
A hotel camera shows Mabhouh (in black) as suspects follow him wearing tennis gear. New evidence on the Hamas assassination links pre-paid debit cards used by the accused assassins to Israel.


By Dan Murphy Staff writer / March 2, 2010


Dubai Police Chief Lt. Gen. Dahi Khalfan Tamim told the Monitor on Monday that he suspects most of the 27 suspects involved in the alleged hit squad are now in Israel, and two of them have taken refuge in the United States. He has also said that he is "99 percent" certain that the Mossad, Israel's external intelligence organization, was behind Mr. Mabhouh's killing.

In addition to the fact that many of the identities used in what have since been shown to be fraudulent European and Australian passports were stolen from Jewish immigrants to Israel, the prepaid credit cards that some of the assassins used to pay for their hotel rooms and plane tickets were issued by a company with ties to the Jewish state.

Dubai police say the cards were issued by the Iowa-based MetaBank, which in turn subcontracted the details of the card to New York-based Payoneer, a company that issues prepaid cards and provides banking services similar to Paypal.

MetaBank issued the pre-paid cards. But Payoneer is the company that receives payment to be loaded onto the cards and acts as the broker between MetaBank and the customers – in this case the people Dubai police alleged participated in the murder.

The closely held Payoneer's Chief Executive Officer is Yuval Tal, an Israeli national who described himself as a former Israeli Special Forces commando in a 2006 interview on Fox News about Israel's war in Lebanon (video of the interview is at the bottom of this post). The company's website says it also has a research and development facility in Tel Aviv.

"It’s a war that they cannot lose -- the Israelis have to win this war,” he told Fox of Israel's war with Hezbollah in southern Lebanon in 2006.

A major investor in Payoneer is US-based venture capital firm Greylock Partners, which has an office in Tel Aviv. Greylock partner, and founder of its Israel office, Moshe Mor served six years in the Israel Army as a captain in military intelligence, according to his profile at Greylock's website.

According to the website of Birthright Israel, which provides free 10-day trips for young Jews to visit Israel every summer, a Payoneer card must be obtained by all participants in the program to process a $250 deposit associated with the trip. Birthright, which receives about half of its funding from the Israeli government and the remainder from private Jewish charities, says it will provide free trips to 15,000 Jews aged 18-26 from more than 20 countries this coming summer.

On Tuesday, Dubai said it would bar Israeli dual nationals from traveling to the wealthy Emirate in retaliation for the murder. Dubai, a regional banking and tourism center, has generally liberal visa rules. Though like most Arab states, the UAE does not have a peace agreement with Israel, Dubai has generally taken a more relaxed stance toward Israeli visitors than other Arab states. In February, the government allowed Israeli tennis player Shahar Peer to participate in a tournament in Dubai.


http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/0302/Hamas-assassination-Debit-cards-issued-by-firm-with-Israeli-ties

[Stary Hickory]

Yea looks pretty fishy.

[puppetmaster]

Hopefully such mob attacks against innocent people are isolated incidences:



Hillary and Obama should show leadership on this and make a public condemnation. How could we be tolerant of an "ally" breaching airport security of another "ally" by using stolen and fake diplomatic passoprts of our European allies in the post 9/11 world to engage in extra-judicial killings of opponents?


Link to operation susannah cited above that led to fall of Israeli PM who had authorized those acts of terrorism in Egypt:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair#Operation_Susannah

Because we do the same thing all the time....

[ibaghdadi]

Liberty Star, thanks for sharing.

This story is top news everywhere in the world except in the United States (which is, in itself, fishy). It has been among the top 3 news items in Israel and the Arab world (especially UAE) for over a month.

It's particularly interesting because the UAE has been an important US ally. There are some serious changes going on though, as a new generation of leaders takes over. Many analysts fear that the US stance this time around may push the UAE into becoming more "independent", sending it closer to Iran (which it has a border dispute with) and Hamas (which it doesn't recognize as yet).


Iyad

[puppetmaster]

I wonder what will become of this.....so many ways

[CharlesTX]

I wonder if this were to be shown here in the U.S., exposing the illegal acts committed, would the regular joe blow American even recognize this as a bad thing?

They would probably think that this was for national security and that the 'friend and ally' killed the leader of the 'towel heads'.

Would this news make a difference to the masses of the uneducated and ignorant?

[HOLLYWOOD]

I've seen it on the BBC America... and FOX Business had a small short clip on the coverage.

Seems Australian Passports were stolen too.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/25/2829656.htm

Australians' passports stolen for Dubai hit: Smith
By online political correspondent Emma Rodgers, staff
Updated Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:16am AEDT
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r520608_2882241.jpg (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r520608_2882246.jpg) Passports used: Suspects travelling under the names of (l to r) Nicole Sandra McCabe, Joshua Daniel Bruce and Adam Korman (Reuters)



Video: Assassins 'abused' passports (ABC News) (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r520754_2884239.asx)
Video: Australians linked to Dubai assassination (ABC News Breakfast) (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r520570_2881685.asx)
Video: New Dubai murder suspects named (ABC News Breakfast) (http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r520618_2882265.asx)
Audio: Three Australians suspected in Hamas assassination (AM) (http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/am/201002/20100225-am-01-australian-assassins.mp3)
Audio: PM says Israeli Ambassador called in to explain (AM) (http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/am/201002/20100225-am-02-rudd-live.mp3)
Related Story: Dubai assassination suspects had Australian passports (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/25/2829520.htm)
Related Story: Israel stops short of Dubai assassination denial (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/18/2822956.htm)
Related Story: Dubai '99pc sure' Mossad killed Hamas chief (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/19/2824214.htm)
Related Link: The Drum: Mark Willacy on Israel's assassins (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/23/2828041.htm?site=thedrum)



Foreign Minister Stephen Smith says three Australians whose passports were allegedly used by suspected Mossad assassins in Dubai appear to have been the victims of identity fraud.
Dubai police have named 15 new suspects in the assassination of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, who was found dead in his hotel room last month in what police say was almost certainly an Israeli hit.
Police say three of the suspects travelled to the emirate on Australian passports in the names of Adam Marcus Korman, Joshua Daniel Bruce and Nicole Sandra McCabe.
Speaking after meeting the Israeli ambassador in Canberra today, Mr Smith said the Australian Federal Police would conduct a full investigation into how the passports had been copied or altered.
"At this stage Australian officials have no information to suggest the three Australian passport holders were involved in any way other than as victims of passport or identity fraud," Mr Smith said.


"The Australian Government condemns in the strongest possible terms the misuse and the abuse of Australian passports."

Mr Smith said he also told ambassador Yuval Rotem that the Australian Government expected Israeli officials to cooperate "fully and transparently" with the AFP's investigation.
Earlier Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said he was determined to "get to the bottom" of the case.

He told AM that officials had been working on the case through the night and pledged the Government would "not let the matter rest" and that Australia "will not be silent on the matter".
"If Australian passports are being used or forged by any state, let alone for the purpose of assassination, this is of the deepest concern and we are getting to the bottom of this now," he said.

"We will not leave a single stone unturned."
Asked what action the Government may take against Israel, Mr Rudd replied: "Let us establish the facts first."

The three Australians named will be contacted by the Department of Foreign Affairs.
"This is not just a deep concern for the Australian Government, it must be therefore the deepest concern to any individual associated with this as well," Mr Rudd said.
'Simply unbelievable'
Mr Korman, 34, is Australian-born but lives in Tel Aviv where he sells musical instruments.
In an interview with Israeli media he has denied any involvement and says he is the victim of identity theft.
AM tried to contact him, along with a Bruce Daniel who lives near Haifa in Israel's north, but neither was answering the phone.
But Mr Korman has told Israel's biggest newspaper Yediot Aharonot that he is shocked over what has happened.
"It's identity theft. Simply unbelievable," he is quoted as saying.
"It's a violation of human rights to do such a thing. I have travelled all over the world but never visited Dubai or the United Arab Emirates."
Mr Korman also told the paper he was perplexed as to how he could fly to Australia again now that he is considered an international suspect.
"I have been frightened and shocked since receiving the news," he reportedly said.
AM has confirmed that Australian Nicole Sandra McCabe also lives in Israel.
When contacted this morning, her family in Australia said they had no knowledge of her name being linked to the Dubai investigation.
Dubai police have released new information about the movements of the 26 suspects before and after the assassination.
All had apparently travelled to Dubai from one of six European cities or Hong Kong, and each left the country to various destinations, including Hong Kong and Iran, before returning to Europe where they apparently abandoned the fraudulent passports.
Many had also used credit cards issued by the same US bank.
Police also released new vision from the hotel's security cameras showing the man named as Mr Bruce with one of the French suspects inside the hotel.


The Israeli foreign minister has said there is no proof his country carried out the killing.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Another PIECE: http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/03/01/mossad-used-australian-passports-to-enter-syria-iran-lebanon/
Two Dubai Killers Entered U.S.; Mossad Used Australian Passports for Spying in Syria, Iran, Lebanon

tell ‘ya, this story just gets weirder and weirder. Apparently, trying to implicate as many western nations in the Dubai assassination as possible (thinking that if they all were embarrassed they’d leave Israel alone??) the Wall Street Journal reports (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704089904575093881279902928.html?m od=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_5) that two of the assassins traveled to the U.S. immediately after the killing. There is no record of their exit, though that may mean they left using other identification especially given that the assassination was discovered presumably while they were still in the country. Now, the FBI has even less reason to shrink from pursuing this case in a muscular fashion.



Until now, the many threads of the case that reached the U.S. were curiously avoided by government officials who made no public comments whatsoever. They still have not done so (“A U.S. State Department spokesman declined to comment”).



Though I hope that will change soon given that the new twist is that fraudulent passports were used to enter and exit this country by assassins who violated international law and are now wanted by Interpol.


The Australian government is alleging that the Mossad used Australian passports to enter Syria, Iran and Lebanon (http://www.smh.com.au/world/asio-targets-new-spy-suspects-20100226-p929.html) in the recent past. Three Australians who made aliyah to Israel within the past ten years applied to change their names from Jewish-sounding, to Anglo-Saxon sounding names. One suspect applied to change his name twice and another did so three times. One of the suspects also has British citizenship and did the same with his British passport:

ASIO is investigating at least three dual Australian-Israeli citizens who they suspect of using Australian cover to spy for Israel. The investigation began at least six months before last month’s assassination of the Hamas operative Mahmoud al-Mabhouh…
The new passports have been used to gain entry to a number of countries that are hostile to Israel including Iran, Syria and Lebanon. All three do not recognise Israel and forbid Israelis from entering. Israel also forbids its citizens from travelling to those countries for security reasons.
The Herald understands that the three Australians share an involvement with a European communications company that has a subsidiary in the Middle East. A person travelling under one of these names sought Australian consular assistance in Tehran in 2004.
The Herald has contacted two of the men, both of whom emphatically denied they were involved in any kind of espionage activity. Both men confirmed they had changed their surnames, but said that the proposition they had done so in order to obtain new documents to travel throughout the Middle East were, in the words of one, “totally absurd”.
“This is a complete fantasy,” said the man when contacted in Israel. “I have changed my name for personal reasons.”
The other man, who was not in Israel when contacted, expressed shock at the suggestion he was under any kind of surveillance and said that he had also changed his name for personal reasons. “I have never been to any of those countries that you say I have been to,” he said. ”I am not involved in any kind of spying. That is ridiculous.”
That’s just what I’d expect a Mossad agent or someone assisting the Mossad to say. But this passage really made my antennae shoot up:

In January the Herald visited the offices of the European company that connects the three men. The company’s office manager confirmed to the Herald that one of the men being monitored by ASIO – the same man believed to hold a British passport – was employed by the company but was “unavailable”.
The company’s chief executive later emphatically denied that this man was ever employed by his company, and totally rejected that his company was being used to gather intelligence on behalf of Israel.
I’d like to know how the CEO reconciled his claim with that of the office manager. Was his manager daydreaming, making it up? In this case, the first response seems far more credible than the second.
And given the fact that the Mossad has been quite active in all three countries in covert operations involving assassinations and military assault, especially in Syria, makes the story all the more intriguing.
If anyone hears any reports including the names of the suspects or the telecommunications company please let me know.
To give you an idea of how insular and uncritical the latest Israeli thinking about this assassination is, consider this statement from minister Benjamin Ben Eliezer:

“What is there to criticise? Right now all I’m interested in from this tsunami is one simple thing. Is he dead or alive? And the answer to that is clear.”
He added: “The [Hamas] organisation knows one thing – there is no one who cannot be caught up with or who cannot be reached. For me, this is deterrence.”
But is it really? How hard will it be to replace al-Mabouh? And if Israel kills the next ten al-Mabouhs, how hard will it be to find another 10 or 20 or 100? In fact, they’ll be lining up in Gaza or Damascus to do so. Robert Baer, a former CIA agent, wrote a sharp op-ed (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704479404575087621440351704.html?m od=WSJ_World_LeftCarousel) for the Wall Street Journal asking whether the al-Mabouh hit was worth the cost for Israel:

…Was Mr. Mabhouh worth it? Other than taking revenge for killing the two Israeli soldiers, he will be quickly replaced. Arms dealing is not a professional skill, and as long as Hamas’s militants are at war with Israel they will find people to buy arms and smuggle them into Gaza. In short, it’s looking more and more like Mr. Mabhouh’s assassination was a serious policy failure.
In cold prose, it sounds inhuman, but there should be a cost-benefit calculation in deciding whether to assassinate an enemy. With all of the new technology available to any government who can afford it, that cost has gone up astronomically. Plausible deniability is out the window. Obviously, if we had known with any specificity 9/11 was coming, we would have ignored the high cost and tried to assassinate Osama bin Laden. And there’s certainly an argument to be made that we should have assassinated Saddam Hussein rather than invade Iraq. The bottom line, it seems to me, is that assassination is justified if it keeps us out of a war. But short of that, it’s not. The Mabhouhs of the world are best pursued by relentless diplomatic pressure and the rule of law.
On a related matter, Dubai released autopsy reports on the killing of Mahmoud al-Mabouh which indicated he was paralyzed with a muscle relaxant (http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100301/NATIONAL/702289826/1133) before being suffocated by his Mossad assassins. Ironically, the drug they used is the same drug used in some U.S. executions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suxamethonium_chloride#Death) and notable murder cases. That seems fitting for the Mossad to use a drug favored by executioners, though at least in the case of U.S. executions a trial precedes carrying out the sentence. Israel apparently dispenses with those niceties.
The National article also indicates that Mossad had attempted to kill al-Mabouh at least twice prior to his assassination.

[puppetmaster]

This will go nowhere, just another crime by Israel and it's allies.

Boils down to............. Religion Kills

[Promontorium]

Tazers are harmless. That's why every jackass in a blue shirt can taze you whenever he feels like and calls it justice.

Therefore this didn't happen.

Good one though Nazis (yes, you Jew hating Nazis). You almost had me.

[BlackTerrel]

I wonder if this were to be shown here in the U.S., exposing the illegal acts committed, would the regular joe blow American even recognize this as a bad thing?

They would probably think that this was for national security and that the 'friend and ally' killed the leader of the 'towel heads'.

Would this news make a difference to the masses of the uneducated and ignorant?

Tell us how you really feel. Just because they think differently then you doesn't mean they are "uneducated and ignorant" and want to "kill towelheads".

Isn't this the exact definition of avoiding collateral damage? If you consider this guy a threat to your country (which Israel obviously does) you either drop a bomb on him in Gaza (and kill others who happen to be nearby) or you kill him like this and he is the only one that dies and no one else is hurt.

If OBL was in Dubai and they didn't give him up we would do the exact same thing (or worse - just bomb the crap out of them). And 90% of Americans would support it.

[CharlesTX]

Tell us how you really feel. Just because they think differently then you doesn't mean they are "uneducated and ignorant" and want to "kill towelheads".

Isn't this the exact definition of avoiding collateral damage? If you consider this guy a threat to your country (which Israel obviously does) you either drop a bomb on him in Gaza (and kill others who happen to be nearby) or you kill him like this and he is the only one that dies and no one else is hurt.

If OBL was in Dubai and they didn't give him up we would do the exact same thing (or worse - just bomb the crap out of them). And 90% of Americans would support it.

Do you support assasinations or preemptive strikes if somebody may be considered a threat due to an action of "Foreign Policy" or "Occupation"?

[BlackTerrel]

Do you support assasinations or preemptive strikes if somebody may be considered a threat due to an action of "Foreign Policy" or "Occupation"?

I wouldn't really call it a preemptive strike if Israel believes this guy was behind bombings and death in their country.

Anyway I really wouldn't say I support it, but I don't have righteous indignation over it either. They can deal with their security as they see fit. I imagine that's how most Americans feel.

If OBL was in Dubai and they didn't want to give him to us then yes I would support us going in and killing him.