VoteRonPaul2008
10-07-2007, 11:18 AM
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Thank you all for the work you do daily!!!
We don't have much time left before primaries, so I came up with some effective methods that have worked for me to get Ron elected.
We need to target certian groups, I've found that the easiest groups to sway are Rudy Giuliani supporters, Barack Obama supporters and American Muslims..
Think about it, most people are under the impression that Giuliani is the most liberal republican so people will vote for him over Hillary.. but that is not the case..
Giuliani has an extremely blothced record, so these are the points you can bring up when converting his supporets
-http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17869046/ (343 firefighters killed because of his negligence)
-Giuliani is pushing for the same Bush agenda according to him "Bush is a good president"
-"Rudy Giuliani is facing tough scrutiny for equating his 9/11 experience to those of the 9/11 rescuer workers. On at least three occasions, Giuliani has said that he faced comparable risk and similar hours. His mayoral archive [courtesy of the New York Times] tells a different story: from mid-September to December of 2001, he spent roughly 29 hours at the site. Rescue workers at the time were regularly putting in 12 hours a day." -msnbc
--He declined to sign a pledge not to raise taxes or create new taxes, confirming the possibility of higher taxes for the average American under his presidency.
- Rudy has no foreign policy experience
-Contrary to popular belief he does not support gay marriage, only civil unions!
-People assume he will be tough on fighting “terrorism” but he can’t even manage to support keeping our borders secure. According to him “illegal immigration is not a crime” expect wage depression, a higher rate of unemployment and a bigger health care crisis under his presidency as well.
his record:
-Allow immigrants to work, with tamper-proof ID cards. (May 2007)
-Supports Senate guest worker plan & path to citizenship. (Nov 2006)
-Giuliani has been criticized for embracing illegal immigration. Giuliani continued a policy of preventing city employees from contacting INS about immigration violations. He ordered city attorneys to defend this policy in federal court. Giuliani has also expressed doubt that the federal government can stop illegal immigration. In April 2006, Giuliani went on the record as favoring the US Senate's comprehensive immigration plan which includes a path to citizenship and a guest worker plan
Sources: wikipedia.org Nov 7, 2006/ www.ontheissues.org
-Also “it has been alleged that Giuliani never read 9/11 Commission's Report and that he did not attend any meetings of the Iraq Study Group after being appointed to it in early 2006.”
-And New York City’s crime rate being down attributes to police Commissioner Bill Bratton, Rudy had nothing to do with it.. “Bratton, not Giuliani, was featured on the cover of Time Magazine in 1996.[54] Giuliani forced Bratton out of his position after two years, in what was generally seen as a battle of two large egos in which Giuliani was unable to accept Bratton's celebrity”
-Don't forget his own kids don't speak to him, he dresses in drag lol and he's been married three times, that should change the minds of some of the cons
*Also a major issue is that they think he can beat Hillary Clinton, but he cannot.. a pro war candidate is unelectable and with Giuliani's track record it makes his chances even more slim... So use these FACTS to turn them over to the only viable candidate the republicans have Ron Paul!!!!
"Ron Paul is Hillary Clinton’s worst nightmare. Forget about the establishment describing his campaign as “quixotic.” Ten or twenty years ago, maybe so. Not now.
Hillary will be the Democratic nominee once the Obama fantasy subsides. Bet the ranch on that one.
Hillary wants to run against the old neocon warhorse, John McCain. As I said in September, she wins that one 52-48. She wants to run against someone whose moral culpability for the war is greater than her own. She outflanks McCain on the war.
Ron Paul outflanks Hillary on the central issue of the campaign, the war. He was one of the few Republican congressmen to oppose it.
He also outflanks Hillary from “the left” on the drug war and civil liberties.
In Ron Paul, Hillary faces a candidate who can outflank her on the left and right all at the same time. Will the center hold?"
- The Hillary Project, by JT Thompson
*****see below posts for Obama and American Muslims, thanks!
Thank you all for the work you do daily!!!
We don't have much time left before primaries, so I came up with some effective methods that have worked for me to get Ron elected.
We need to target certian groups, I've found that the easiest groups to sway are Rudy Giuliani supporters, Barack Obama supporters and American Muslims..
Think about it, most people are under the impression that Giuliani is the most liberal republican so people will vote for him over Hillary.. but that is not the case..
Giuliani has an extremely blothced record, so these are the points you can bring up when converting his supporets
-http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17869046/ (343 firefighters killed because of his negligence)
-Giuliani is pushing for the same Bush agenda according to him "Bush is a good president"
-"Rudy Giuliani is facing tough scrutiny for equating his 9/11 experience to those of the 9/11 rescuer workers. On at least three occasions, Giuliani has said that he faced comparable risk and similar hours. His mayoral archive [courtesy of the New York Times] tells a different story: from mid-September to December of 2001, he spent roughly 29 hours at the site. Rescue workers at the time were regularly putting in 12 hours a day." -msnbc
--He declined to sign a pledge not to raise taxes or create new taxes, confirming the possibility of higher taxes for the average American under his presidency.
- Rudy has no foreign policy experience
-Contrary to popular belief he does not support gay marriage, only civil unions!
-People assume he will be tough on fighting “terrorism” but he can’t even manage to support keeping our borders secure. According to him “illegal immigration is not a crime” expect wage depression, a higher rate of unemployment and a bigger health care crisis under his presidency as well.
his record:
-Allow immigrants to work, with tamper-proof ID cards. (May 2007)
-Supports Senate guest worker plan & path to citizenship. (Nov 2006)
-Giuliani has been criticized for embracing illegal immigration. Giuliani continued a policy of preventing city employees from contacting INS about immigration violations. He ordered city attorneys to defend this policy in federal court. Giuliani has also expressed doubt that the federal government can stop illegal immigration. In April 2006, Giuliani went on the record as favoring the US Senate's comprehensive immigration plan which includes a path to citizenship and a guest worker plan
Sources: wikipedia.org Nov 7, 2006/ www.ontheissues.org
-Also “it has been alleged that Giuliani never read 9/11 Commission's Report and that he did not attend any meetings of the Iraq Study Group after being appointed to it in early 2006.”
-And New York City’s crime rate being down attributes to police Commissioner Bill Bratton, Rudy had nothing to do with it.. “Bratton, not Giuliani, was featured on the cover of Time Magazine in 1996.[54] Giuliani forced Bratton out of his position after two years, in what was generally seen as a battle of two large egos in which Giuliani was unable to accept Bratton's celebrity”
-Don't forget his own kids don't speak to him, he dresses in drag lol and he's been married three times, that should change the minds of some of the cons
*Also a major issue is that they think he can beat Hillary Clinton, but he cannot.. a pro war candidate is unelectable and with Giuliani's track record it makes his chances even more slim... So use these FACTS to turn them over to the only viable candidate the republicans have Ron Paul!!!!
"Ron Paul is Hillary Clinton’s worst nightmare. Forget about the establishment describing his campaign as “quixotic.” Ten or twenty years ago, maybe so. Not now.
Hillary will be the Democratic nominee once the Obama fantasy subsides. Bet the ranch on that one.
Hillary wants to run against the old neocon warhorse, John McCain. As I said in September, she wins that one 52-48. She wants to run against someone whose moral culpability for the war is greater than her own. She outflanks McCain on the war.
Ron Paul outflanks Hillary on the central issue of the campaign, the war. He was one of the few Republican congressmen to oppose it.
He also outflanks Hillary from “the left” on the drug war and civil liberties.
In Ron Paul, Hillary faces a candidate who can outflank her on the left and right all at the same time. Will the center hold?"
- The Hillary Project, by JT Thompson
*****see below posts for Obama and American Muslims, thanks!