Poll: Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a Hate Group?

[Galileo Galilei]

Poll: Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a Hate Group?

Yes.

They hate the 1st Amendment, the 2nd Amendment, the 3rd Amendment, the 4th Amendment, the 5th Amendment, the 6th Amendment, the 7th Amendment, the 9th Amendment, the 10th Amendment, and the 11th Amendment.

They hate Article I of the Constitution, as well as Article II, Article III, Article IV, Article V, Article VI, and Article VII.

They hate the Declaration of Independence and Common Sense.

They hate the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers.

They hate Ron Paul.

They hate Lew Rockwell.

They hate Rand Paul and Debra Medina.

They hate the Libertarian Party and the Tea Parties.

They hate Alex Jones and the 9/11 Truth Movement.

They hate Dr. David Ray Griffin.

They hate Loose Change.

They hate WTC 7.

They hate George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Ed Thompson, Ayn Rand, John Locke, David Nolan, John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Stossel, R. W. Bradford, Stephen P. Gordon, Grover Cleveland, Davy Crockett, James Wilson, Antoninus Pius, Galileo Galilei, Giordano Bruno, Origen of Alexandria, Benjamin Franklin, and Roger Sherman.

They hate Jesse Ventura, Daniel Ellsberg, John Perkins, Richard Falk, and G. Edward Griffin.

They hate George Santayana, Pastor Martin Niemöller, Patrick Henry, Charles Barkley, John Milton, Franz Kafka, and Tacitus.

They hate Lord Acton and Voltaire.

They hate Bon Barr.

They hate Harry Browne, Paul Craig Roberts, Justin Raimondo, Mike Gravel, Paul Joseph Watson, Peter Dale Scott, Steve Watson, Randy Weaver, David Koresh, Lee Harvey Oswald, Aaron Russo, Dylan Avery, Jason Bermas, Korey Rowe, and Dr. Kevin Barrett.

They hate Frederic Bastiat, Vin Suprynowicz, Peter McWilliams, Dr. Mary Ruwart, David Bergland, Judge Andrew P. Napolitano, Judge James Gray, Randy E. Barnett, Stephen D. Cox, Michael Badnarik, F. A. Hayek, Dr. Joseph Tainter, Charles Renouvier, Alexander Hamilton, Edmund Contoski, James Powell, Rose Wilder Lane, Henry Grady Weaver, Charles de Montesquieu, Thomas Paine, Edward Gibbon, Alexis de Tocqueville, George Mason, Akhil Reed Amar, Elaine Pagels, Stillman Drake, Ernst Cassirer, John Adams, I. Bernard Cohen, Forrest Church, Rufus Choate, Dr. Thomas E. Woods Jr., Charles Murray, Eugene Zamiatin, Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, Barry Scheck, Hunter S. Thompson, John Hospers, Dan Brown, Robert Allen Rutland, Pierre Bayle, David McCullough, Daniel Webster, Robert Hayne, Jean-Jacques Burlamaqui, Lance Banning, Dr. Alfred W. McCoy, William H. McNeill, Garrett Mattingly, Socrates, John Marshall, Roger Taney, Livy, Niccolo Machiavelli, Jules Verne, Chinua Achebe, Tommaso Campanella, Ralph Ketcham, John Quincy Adams, Jared M. Diamond, Paul M. Johnson, John Brown, Geronimo, Joan of Arc, Bertrand Russell, Leonardo da Vinci, Jacob Bronowski, Oscar Wilde, Giambattista Vico, and John Jay.

They hate Mark Lane, Polybius, Friedrich Nietzsche, William Shirer, Isaac Asimov, and Dolley Madison.

They hate Peter Schiff, Adam Koesh, and R.J. Harris.

They LOVE Big Brother.

[paulitics]

They hate us for our freedoms.

[Galileo Galilei]

They hate us for our freedoms.

They certainly do.

[Aratus]

they are a PAC, they are a 527
they act PAC and they act 527
they are partisan in orientation

[pacelli]

This is the best that 'they' can do.

http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/potak-mark-splc.jpg

http://www.umassd.edu/publicaffairs/images/Dees.jpg

[kahless]

Oops, subtract 1 from yes and add it to "not sure". I vaguely remember something but my memory is bad on this one. Maybe OP can list why he believes they hate those listed in his post?

On the surface it seems like a good thing protecting those from hate groups and documenting the locations and activities of hate groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi's. I am going to guess that they got away from that mission and are lumping in tax protestors or Ron Paul some how?

[The Patriot]

They are establishment lap dogs. They target their vitriol against anyone who opposes the current order.

[Vessol]

Big hate group. They do not good for the minorities they claim to "represent".

[kahless]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

[Galileo Galilei]

Oops, subtract 1 from yes and add it to "not sure". I vaguely remember something but my memory is bad on this one. Maybe OP can list why he believes they hate those listed in his post?

On the surface it seems like a good thing protecting those from hate groups and documenting the locations and activities of hate groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi's. I am going to guess that they got away from that mission and are lumping in tax protestors or Ron Paul some how?

They hate Amercia. If you form a group and call it the 'Second Amendment Army", they'll call that a hate group becasue it has a militant sounding name.

If they want to bump their numbers, they should check out some of the groups on facebook. There's one called sometging like; "Ten Million Strong Who Want to See the Birth Certificate". That would be another hate group, because they would say the group hates black people.

On the other hand, if football fans have group called the "Shotgun Blitz headbangers bratwurst squad", that would be OK.

[Galileo Galilei]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

The post has a little hyperbole. But they did just say that "Oathkeepers" is a hate group. They also label groups that want to see Obama's birth certificate a hate group. Groups that think Irael is involved with 9/11 is a "hate group" becasue they must be racists. Etc.

The SPLC really just hates free speech and they hate America.

[Vessol]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/04/minutemen-forge/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/01/06/liberty-dollar-creator-seeks-greener-grass/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/05/patriot-vendors-hawking-their-own-coins-again/

Just a quick google search.

[Pericles]

The Church of Morris Dees - How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance
by Ken Silverstein, Harper's Magazine, November, 2000
Read the complete article (http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1111/1806_301/66680491/p1/article.jhtml)
Excerpts:

...who could object to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Montgomery, Alabama-based group... Cofounded in 1971 by civil rights lawyer cum direct-marketing millionaire Morris Dees...

... Morris Dees--who made millions hawking, by direct mail, such humble commodities as birthday cakes, cookbooks (including Favorite Recipes of American Home Economics Teachers), tractor seat cushions, rat poison, and, in exchange for a mailing list containing 700,000 names, presidential candidate George McGovern--is nothing if not a good salesman...

Today, the SPLC's treasury bulges with $120 million... The American Institute of Philanthropy gives the center one of the worst ratings of any group it monitors, estimating that the SPLC could operate for 4.6 years without making another tax-exempt nickel...

The SPLC's "other important work for justice" consists mainly in spying on private citizens who belong to "hate groups,"...

In 1986, the center's entire legal staff quit in protest of Dees's refusal to address issues--such as homelessness, voter registration, and affirmative action... Another lawyer... told reporters that the center's programs were calculated to cash in on "black pain and white guilt."...

... "Morris and I ... shared the overriding purpose of making a pile of money," recalls Dees's business partner, a lawyer named Millard Fuller (not to be confused with Millard Farmer). "We were not particular about how we did it; we just wanted to be independently rich." They were so unparticular, in fact, that in 1961 they defended a man, guilty of beating up a journalist covering the Freedom Riders, whose legal fees were paid by the Klan.

"You are a fraud and a conman," the Southern Center's director, Stephen Bright, wrote in a 1996 letter to Dees...

COPYRIGHT 2000 Harper's Magazine Foundation

[Galileo Galilei]

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/04/minutemen-forge/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/01/06/liberty-dollar-creator-seeks-greener-grass/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/05/patriot-vendors-hawking-their-own-coins-again/

Just a quick google search.

good post.

Oh, that's another thing. Some people they just IMPLY are racists (like Ron Paul), because they speak somewhere that SPLC doesn't approve of.

They are implying that Robert Taft was a racist in one of these. In another, you are implied to be a racist of you oppose the Fed (because you must hate all the Jewish bankers).

They are full of it.

[Uriel999]

They hate us for our freedoms.

qft.

Nice to be able to use the neocon phrases against TPTB

[The Patriot]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/04/minutemen-forge/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splc-report-militia-movement-resurgent-infused-with-racism
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splcs-mark-potok-interviewed-on-militia-movement
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/jena-six-teen-gets-second-chance-a-new-start-with-splc-board-member
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splc-urges-congress-to-investigate-extremism-in-the-military
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/homeland-security-economic-political-climate-fueling-extremism
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/fall/the-second-wave
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/19/austin-killer-becoming-a-hero-to-the-radical-right/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/05/patriot-vendors-hawking-their-own-coins-again/

[pacelli]

Here's Morris Dees' divorce brief. This guy appears seriously screwed up, and probably one of the reasons why they put Mark Potluck as the SPLC's figure head. Honestly, the quote below is just the tip of the iceberg with this scumbag.


Morris' Step-Daughter. Holly Buck, Maureene's daughter
by a previous marriage, is eighteen years old (R. 728). She was
seven years old when her mother and Morris married, and she has
lived with them in the house at Mathews from then until the
separation (R. 728). Holly testified that, in the summer of 1977,
Morris attempted to molest her in the following incident (R. 729):

<>

She did not tell her mother about this incident until the separation when they moved out
of the Mathews house in the spring of 1979 (R. 736).


http://www.zianet.com/web/dees2.htm

[Galileo Galilei]

Oh, that's another thing. A group that is not a hate group can magically become a hate group if the owner of the group is deemed a hater.

It would be interesting if this were applied to large corporations. Just imagine a large corp with 1000 stockholders. Let's say three of them are birthers. Does that make the whole group a hate group? Probably not, unless SPLC has an agenda against the group.

[catdd]

A "hate group" is simply anyone they hate.

[Dunedain]

The SPLC fights white supremacists. That is their main target of their anti-hate attacks. That means they do good. You are a racist hater if you disagree with this.

[Galileo Galilei]

Exposing the Southern Poverty Law Center

Take Back Washington

March 19, 2010 - After recovering from the “news” that the new film Camp FEMA is somehow racist, I thought it might behoove me to take another look. Maybe the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) knows something I don’t about “racism.” After exploring their interesting site, it has become even more clear that they are not on the side of We-the-People. In fact, they may have been founded on some very sound principles, but their present-day agenda is profoundly more nefarious.

Indulge me for a minute please…my family has fought racism throughout our generations. My grandfather preached equality for ALL in churches in the South. How easy do you think that was to do? My parents did not allow us to use derogatory words, even going so far as to not allow us to use a person’s skin color to describe them. I am still scarred from a battle I had at a United Methodist church in Louisiana, as a seventeen-year old girl, trying to fight racism and politics. Did the Southern Poverty Law Center bother to ask me any questions? No, they didn’t. Believe me, growing up in the South in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s, I know a thing or two about racism!

Many news outlets use the Southern Poverty Law Center to comment on racial issues. There are several; CBS, FoxNews, CNN, the New York Times, Newsweek, the Washington Post, the Associated Press, and more. A group that focuses on hate, The SPLC issues quarterly “reports” about hate…groups, actions, people. In its Spring 2010 Intelligence Report, they claim to have identified 512 “Patriot” groups in the US. (What is wrong with a “Patriot” group?) In their defense, the SPLC does say that being categorized as a “patriot group” does not mean these “groups” advocate violence or hate. Why, then, list them at all? Are they trying to put something in the public’s mind about these “groups?”

MORE:

http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/2617/Exposing-the-Southern-Poverty-Law-Center.aspx

[jmdrake]

This is the article from the SPLC that proved to me years ago that they hate black people.

h ttp://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2001/summer/false-patriots?page=0,8

The title of the article is "false patriots". Here's an excerpt.

Jeff Randall, 36

Like old soldiers, most of those who left the militia movement simply faded quietly away. But not Jeff Randall, a self-employed machinist and co-founder of Alabama's Gadsden Minutemen.

In May 1995, a year after the group was created, Randall and two other Minutemen infiltrated a gathering of agents of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) — the bête noire of the militia movement — near the Ocoee River in Tennessee.

They left the annual "Good Ol' Boys Roundup" with a videotape showing what they later described as "an orgy of racism," including shots of a "****** Check Point: Any ******* in That Car?" sign. After ex-cop Randall released the video to the media, several ATF and other law enforcement officials were disciplined.

Four months later, the Minutemen's other co-founder, Mike Kemp, was arrested after 14 marijuana plants were found in his home. Randall quit after the bad publicity, rejoined a week later, and quit for good a year after that.

"I got tired of people ... wanting me to assemble armies for them," he told reporters. "The whole militia movement is either conspiracy kooks or criminals."

Randall even apologized for releasing the Roundup tape, which he said hurt many good officers. Randall now runs Randall's Adventure and Training, which offers jungle tours in Latin America — and which was featured last year on the Travel Channel's "Amazing Adventures."

How can you attack someone for exposing racism inside federal law enforcement and then call yourself a group that is against hate?

Oh, and here there are going against Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America.

Larry Pratt, 58

Larry Pratt, a gun rights absolutist whose Gun Owners of America (GOA) has been described as "eight lanes to the right" of the National Rifle Association, may well be the person who brought the concept of citizen militias to the radical right.

In 1990, Pratt wrote a book, Armed People Victorious, based on his study of "citizen defense patrols" used in Guatemala and the Philippines against Communist rebels — patrols that came to be known as death squads for their murderous brutality.

Picturing these groups in rosy terms, Pratt advocated similar militias in the United States — an idea that finally caught on when he was invited for a meeting of 160 extremists, including many famous white supremacists, in 1992.

It was at that meeting, hosted in Colorado by white supremacist minister Pete Peters, that the contours of the militia movement were laid out.

Pratt, whose GOA has grown since its 1975 founding to some 150,000 members today, hit the headlines in a big way when his associations with Peters and other professional racists were revealed, convincing arch-conservative Pat Buchanan to eject him as a national co-chair of Buchanan's 1996 presidential campaign.

The same year, it emerged that Pratt was a contributing editor to a periodical of the anti-Semitic United Sovereigns of America, and that his GOA had donated money to a white supremacist attorney's group.

Pratt is today close to the extremist Constitution Party and its radical theology.

A lot of people hate on the ACLU, but the ACLU occasionally does something good. I can't say that for the SPLC.

[Valli6]

Not only are they a hate group, they are hate-whores! They promote hate for a living because without it, they'd have to get real jobs!
(No offense intended to traditional whores as they provide an actual service to customers that seek them out)

[Aratus]

technically, neither andrew johnson and ulysses s. grant would have called them
or their 1870s equivilent a "hate group" and yes, thaddeus stevens might be almost
like a founding member to them in an esoteric way via the factional partisanism of our politics.

[brandon]

I hate the term "Hate Group" Sounds very orwellian.

[lynnf]

so, who's going to send them a letter stating that they have been designated a hate group? and send copies to all the fusion centers/state depts of public safety

lynn

[ronpaulhawaii]

SPLC - The Hate Group to End All Hate Groups...