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Liberty Star
02-19-2010, 10:56 PM
Anyone seeing this being reported in MSM?

What could this mean for Obama regime, his America firster handlers? Hopefully no major effect on plans to keep Iran surrounded by keeping large number of troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan for as long as possible:

Quote:

Saturday, 20 February 2010

Dutch cabinet collapses in dispute over Afghanistan

The Dutch government has collapsed over disagreements within the governing coalition on extending troop deployments in Afghanistan.

After marathon talks, Christian Democratic Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende announced that the Labour Party was quitting the government.

Mr Balkenende has been considering a Nato request for Dutch forces to stay in Afghanistan beyond 2010.

But Labour, the second-largest coalition party, has opposed the move.

The collapse of the government was announced after a 16-hour cabinet meeting.

Just under 2,000 Dutch service personnel have been serving in Afghanistan's Uruzgan province since 2006, with 21 killed.

Their deployment has already been extended once. The troops should have returned home in 2008, but they stayed on because no other Nato nation offered replacements.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8525742.stm

Baptist
02-19-2010, 11:15 PM
This seems like a big story to me. But I guess these days threads only get more than one view if they have "Glenn Beck" in the title.

Texan4Life
02-19-2010, 11:16 PM
soviet style collapse or I'm just really mad and not talking to you right now collapse?

Liberty Star
02-19-2010, 11:20 PM
Collapse as in ruling party is no longer able to retain gov because it no longer has majority of elected reps support. It's a different form of of gov than ours, parliamentary demoracy I think.

Baptist
02-19-2010, 11:25 PM
Collapse as in ruling party is no longer able to retain gov because it no longer has majority of elected reps support. It's a different form of of gov than ours, parliamentary demoracy I think.


Yeah, I'm not familiar with Dutch government but if it's anything like other Western European nations governments collapse and dissolve all the time. That said, even though they are used to it, I think it's still a pretty big deal.

BlackTerrel
02-20-2010, 12:18 AM
Yeah, I'm not familiar with Dutch government but if it's anything like other Western European nations governments collapse and dissolve all the time. That said, even though they are used to it, I think it's still a pretty big deal.

Was just going to say this happens in Europe all the time. Different form of gov - it doesn't really mean collapse. It's a shift in alliances.

Liberty Star
02-20-2010, 11:15 PM
Yeah, I'm not familiar with Dutch government but if it's anything like other Western European nations governments collapse and dissolve all the time. That said, even though they are used to it, I think it's still a pretty big deal.

It's more fluid than our system but I don't think stable govs fall too often even in that system. How many times Blair or Brown govs have fallen.., well Blair gov did fall and that was a major event.

nate895
02-21-2010, 01:26 AM
It's more fluid than our system but I don't think stable govs fall too often even in that system. How many times Blair or Brown govs have fallen.., well Blair gov did fall and that was a major event.

The Blair government (more properly the Labour government) didn't collapse, Blair resigned because Labour was risking losing the support of some of its own MPs over some of the leadership's policies, and that would have led to a probable new election and a Tory government being installed. It was a close call, but it still wasn't a technical collapse. The most common time for a collapse is when there is a minority or coalition government and one of the parties that is in support of the coalition, or accedes to the minority's government, no longer will accede to that government.

purplechoe
02-21-2010, 01:30 AM
"The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated."

Liberty Star
02-21-2010, 09:49 AM
The Blair government (more properly the Labour government) didn't collapse, Blair resigned because Labour was risking losing the support of some of its own MPs over some of the leadership's policies, and that would have led to a probable new election and a Tory government being installed. It was a close call, but it still wasn't a technical collapse. The most common time for a collapse is when there is a minority or coalition government and one of the parties that is in support of the coalition, or accedes to the minority's government, no longer will accede to that government.

You're correct, he premptively resigned after he lost support. Technically it was a resignation.

jmdrake
02-24-2010, 04:15 PM
This seems like a big story to me. But I guess these days threads only get more than one view if they have "Glenn Beck" in the title.

Word! I just noticed this because I heard about the story on the radio and decided to see if someone else had already posted it here.