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carbonpenguin
02-17-2010, 11:08 PM
The Problem with Glenn Beck

Originally posted at ASR (http://asrblog.com/2010/02/17/751/)

Ever since Ron Paul’s presidential bid in 2007-2008, Glenn Beck has been something of a controversial figure among members of the liberty movement. On the one hand, he addresses many issues near and dear to our hearts (such as the bailouts and stimulus, the Federal Reserve, select police state measures, state sovereignty, etc.) which we’d come to expect to be completely ignored by the mainstream media. To add icing to the cake, Beck conducts those discussions in the *language* of the liberty movement, sprinkling his diatribes with generous helpings of references to the Constitution and Founders. Such references are deeply symbolic and emotionally resonant for people in the liberty movement, and his use of them cements Beck’s position in many minds as a friend of liberty.

However, the recent flap concerning Texas Gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina’s appearance on Beck’s show serves as a reminder of the entertainer’s dark side. Beck is well versed at talking the talk of liberty, and his faction of the Tea Party and “9/12 Movement” have certainly made a lot of noise waving signs and marching on things. However, when it appears that a champion of liberty has a shot at real political power, Beck’s resolve melts like a snowball in August. During the Ron Paul campaign, Beck was deeply dismissive of Paul while the primary was still contested; it was only after it could be safely assumed that he had no shot at winning the primary that Beck miraculously began to spout suspiciously Paulist Constitutionalist-libertarian rhetoric. Similarly, from the game Beck talks, one would think that Debra Medina would be his dream candidate. Instead, he attacked her when he came on her show by using some fairly twisted logic to label her a 911-Truther, and, in a subsequent show, referred to her oxymoronically as an “anarchist Nazi” and an advocate of a “Total State”.

There is a common thread which ties these two examples together that’s indicative of the role Beck plays. 98% of the time, he spouts dyed-in-the-wool liberty rhetoric, which endears him to members of the liberty movement and earns their trust; he is thus perceived as “one of us” rather than being dismissed as “just another MSM clown”. That trust is a powerful weapon which he deploys the 2% of the time that it really counts: when it appears that a true liberty candidate has a real chance. At that moment, whether in the case of Ron Paul raising millions of dollars or Debra Medina exploding from 4% to 24% in a three-way Republican primary in a short amount of time, Beck breaks ranks and attacks the liberty candidate. While we’ve become relatively immune to the rantings of the likes of Sean Hannity or Keith Olbermann, we’d been perceiving Beck as one of us, and his dissent throws the movement into disarray at a strategically vital moment. Once the threat of real success is past, Beck starts up the liberty rhetoric again and we’re tempted to forgive and forget, because it feels so good to hear about what we care about on Prime-Time cable.

I, for one, am done with Beck’s traitorous head-games. I was disgusted by his treatment of Dr. Paul during the ‘08 primary, and yet somehow deluded myself into thinking he’d had a change of heart and was “on our side”. Now that he’s back-stabbed the liberty movement twice, my eyes are open. The end of the empire and the restoration will not be brought about by a well-fed, well-paid corporate radio/TV toady telling people to get out and wave signs; it’ll be brought about by people of good conscience taking political power. If Beck can’t get behind that, then his antics need to be shunned. When T.V.s across America finally go silent, that’ll be when the oligarchs start to sweat… rhetoric, or rEVOLution?

RM918
02-17-2010, 11:31 PM
Yet there are plenty who'd rather wave off Medina as a 'total idiot' for saying what she said - once - and fall right in line with Beck. I almost want the neocons to win again in 2012 just to see the look on these guys' faces when Beck and the GOP stabs them in the back - again.

AuH20
02-17-2010, 11:36 PM
Yet there are plenty who'd rather wave off Medina as a 'total idiot' for saying what she said - once - and fall right in line with Beck. I almost want the neocons to win again in 2012 just to see the look on these guys' faces when Beck and the GOP stabs them in the back - again.

It isn't that simple:

(1) Medina responded awkwardly but Beck should have been more tempered with his accusations
(2) truthers have hated Beck for years and vice-versa. It's been building to a crescendo.
(3) Beck is one man with a tv show. His audience is generally open-minded and not necessarily 100% on board with his beliefs.

RM918
02-17-2010, 11:46 PM
It isn't that simple:

(1) Medina responded awkwardly but Beck should have been more tempered with his accusations
(2) truthers have hated Beck for years and vice-versa. It's been building to a crescendo.
(3) Beck is one man with a tv show. His audience is generally open-minded and not necessarily 100% on board with his beliefs.

More tempered? Does he regularly call candidates he supposedly agrees with 'anarchist nazis' after waving them off the air and making repeated bizarre and absurd accusations without any chance for them to rebut? He flew completely off the handle. People downplaying the ridiculous nature of the incident are just making excuses for Beck and throwing everything Medina's ever done out the window because they've made their choice about who they'd rather stand behind.

runningdiz
02-17-2010, 11:47 PM
It isn't that simple:

(1) Medina responded awkwardly but Beck should have been more tempered with his accusations
(2) truthers have hated Beck for years and vice-versa. It's been building to a crescendo.
(3) Beck is one man with a tv show. His audience is generally open-minded and not necessarily 100% on board with his beliefs.

The guy is mentally unstable and most of the people who watch his show are the hopeless morons who invited Sarah Palin to speak at their Tea Party. They may scream revolution for a little while and agree with us but they will fall back in line with the neocons.

AuH20
02-17-2010, 11:52 PM
The guy is mentally unstable and most of the people who watch his show are the hopeless morons who invited Sarah Palin to speak at their Tea Party. They may scream revolution for a little while and agree with us but they will fall back in line with the neocons.

That was a small segment. The National Tea Party convention attracted close to 600 people. It was a joke.

LittleLightShining
02-18-2010, 06:50 AM
Great post, OP! Very well said.

payme_rick
02-18-2010, 07:10 AM
and most of the people who watch his show are the hopeless morons who invited Sarah Palin to speak at their Tea Party. They may scream revolution for a little while and agree with us but they will fall back in line with the neocons.

I dunno man, of course there are a lot of those in any movement... but judging by his callers I've heard over the last year or so, a lot of these people are fairly individual in their thinking... let's hope so anyway

itshappening
02-18-2010, 07:26 AM
Great analysis thanks for posting

share this with your friends!#

carbonpenguin
02-18-2010, 08:34 AM
Yet there are plenty who'd rather wave off Medina as a 'total idiot' for saying what she said - once - and fall right in line with Beck. I almost want the neocons to win again in 2012 just to see the look on these guys' faces when Beck and the GOP stabs them in the back - again.

The problem in that case is that most people won't notice the stab; they'll just assume that, because they "speak the language" of liberty, being a neo-con *is* being a "constitutionalist". That's pretty much the narrative that Beck was selling with his chalk-board shennanigans, and people have historically fallen for it (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II). The "look on these guys faces" will be delight as they feel they've saved the country by electing a neo-con defense industry shill to replace Obama in 2012; they'll see that as just as much change as liberal Dems saw the election of the big O. Our job is to disrupt that narrative, and we can't expect help from the likes of Beck, no matter how nice he is to us when it doesn't matter...