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low preference guy
02-16-2010, 05:55 PM
From the Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/15/tea-party-leaders-ask-voters-to-help-draft-contract-from-america/).
A list of issues that the activists will vote on include:
* Amending the constitution to require a balanced budget and a two-thirds majority for any tax hike.
* Permanently repealing all tax hikes scheduled to begin in 2011.
* Requiring every bill in Congress to be made public seven days before any vote can be taken and all government expenditures authorized by any bill to be easily accessible on the Internet before the money is spent.
* Requiring each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.
* Permitting all health insurance plans to be sold anywhere in the United States through the purchase of insurance across state lines. Allow small businesses and associations to pool together across state lines to buy insurance.
* Adopting a simple and fair single-rate tax system by scrapping the internal revenue code and “replacing it with one that is no longer than 4,543 words — the length of the original Constitution.”
* Imposing a statutory cap limiting the annual growth in total federal spending to the sum of inflation rate plus the percentage of population growth.
* Allowing Americans to opt out of Social Security and Medicare and instead put those same payroll taxes in a personal account “they own, control and can leave to whomever they choose.”
* Preventing any regulation or tax on the Internet.
* Improving education by eliminating ineffective and wasteful programs, giving parents more choices from pre-school to high school and improving the affordability of higher education.
* Authorizing the exploration of proven energy reserves to reduce our dependence on foreign energy sources from unstable countries and reduce regulatory barriers to all other forms of energy creation, lowering prices and creating competition.
* Prohibiting the Federal Communications Commission from using funds to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
* Creating a Blue Ribbon task force that engages in a complete audit of federal agencies and programs.
* Blocking state and local governments that receive federal grants from exercising eminent domain over private property for the primary purpose of economic development or enhancement of tax revenues.
* Preventing the EPA from implementing costly new regulations.
* Placing a moratorium on all earmarks until the process is fully transparent. Also requiring a two-thirds majority to pass any earmark.
* Making all lawmaking regulators, including presidential appointed czars, be affirmatively approved by Congress and signed into law by the president.
* Audit the Federal Reserve System.
* Making sure the federal government does not bail out private companies. The government should also immediately divest itself of its stake in the private companies it owns from recent bailouts.
* Amending the constitution to require congressional term limits. No person shall be elected to the Senate more than twice or to the House of Representatives more than four times.
* Making all regulations “sunset” after 10 years unless renewed by congressional vote.
* Broadcasting all non-security meetings and votes on C-SPAN and the Internet.
Some points are really good. Not bad overall.
phill4paul
02-16-2010, 06:20 PM
I've seen how these "Contract with America" politics play out. No thanks.
There is only one contract between the people and the government. It is called the Constitution of the united States.
Reinterpretations of this document are akin to revisionist history.
It is the only "contract." Abide.
John Taylor
02-16-2010, 06:24 PM
From the Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/15/tea-party-leaders-ask-voters-to-help-draft-contract-from-america/).
Some points are really good. Not bad overall.
How will anyone be held to this anymore than people are held to the current Republican Platform?
RATM99
02-16-2010, 06:27 PM
What about war and foreign policy?
For some reason they left that out.
LittleLightShining
02-16-2010, 06:35 PM
It's actually called "Contract From America".
What about war and foreign policy?
For some reason they left that out.I don't really have a problem with them leaving it out. I'd rather it not be said than say something I can't agree with.
phill4paul
02-16-2010, 06:40 PM
I'd rather it not be said than say something I can't agree with.
The way America votes. No?
LittleLightShining
02-16-2010, 06:41 PM
The way America votes. No?
Right.
NiceGoing
02-16-2010, 06:46 PM
The title is "Contract for America" - is this Newt Gingrich coming back to haunt America? God help us.
LittleLightShining
02-16-2010, 06:47 PM
The title is "Contract for America" - is this Newt Gingrich coming back to haunt America? God help us.
No, Contract FROM America.
That said, I'm pretty sure we have one of these already...
low preference guy
02-16-2010, 06:59 PM
Yeah, it's contract from America. If some mod could fix it, that would be great.
If you want to vote for your 10 favorite points, visit http://www.thecontract.org/.
Matt Collins
02-16-2010, 08:53 PM
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Meiun
02-16-2010, 09:06 PM
What a bunch of bullshit!
Sorry, but this does not even come close to dealing with the true PROBLEM that we face.
Look, I'm trained as a medical professional to look for the root of the problem and treat it, rather than simply masking symptoms. This little contract is nothing more than a giant band-aid that will leave the patient spewing blood from his arteries.
The PROBLEM is sound fiscal policy.
We need a return to a competitive currency.
End the Federal Reserve.
Abolish the IRS.
Eliminate our 700+ bases around the world and return our troops to doing what the constitution says they should do, defend our borders.
Abolish all sections of the federal gov't not expressly authorized by the constitution.
Each of these actions, in its own way, deal directly with the true problem we have in America. Returning to a sound fiscal policy will solve a hell of a lot problems in multiple sectors of our economy. That's what we need.
low preference guy
02-16-2010, 09:11 PM
What a bunch of bullshit!
Sorry, but this does not even come close to dealing with the true PROBLEM that we face.
Look, I'm trained as a medical professional to look for the root of the problem and treat it, rather than simply masking symptoms. This little contract is nothing more than a giant band-aid that will leave the patient spewing blood from his arteries.
The PROBLEM is sound fiscal policy.
We need a return to a competitive currency.
End the Federal Reserve.
Abolish the IRS.
Eliminate our 700+ bases around the world and return our troops to doing what the constitution says they should do, defend our borders.
Abolish all sections of the federal gov't not expressly authorized by the constitution.
Each of these actions, in its own way, deal directly with the true problem we have in America. Returning to a sound fiscal policy will solve a hell of a lot problems in multiple sectors of our economy. That's what we need.
I think the following two proposals are two good first steps to achieve what you want:
Requiring each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.
Auditing the Fed.
Ron Paul sees Auditing the Fed as a first step towards abolishing it.
We all know this will have very little effect, but if those items are included in the contract, people will at least be more informed about the Fed and the Constitution.
aravoth
02-16-2010, 09:12 PM
Here's your fuckin' contract
http://department.monm.edu/Classics/cpl/PromotionalMaterials/USConstitution.jpg
If it's not in there, then get rid of it.
Now, do we really need something else? Jackasses.........
Meiun
02-16-2010, 09:28 PM
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If it's not in there, then get rid of it.
Now, do we really need something else? Jackasses.........
+1776 !!!!
Thanks for the clarification
kahless
02-16-2010, 09:39 PM
"Amending the constitution to require a balanced budget and a two-thirds majority for any tax hike."
An open invitation to expand the size of the federal government which the two thirds majority will vote for a tax increase to make that happen. If not then I expect them to create a VAT tax so they can balance the budget.
awake
02-16-2010, 09:55 PM
the Constitution is at best a cage for the state. Once the beast has found a way out, even if you manage to achieve the monumental task of getting it back in, it becomes easier and easier for it to escape with minimal effort.
The problem is not that the cage is not sufficient, it is the fact that the masses are intent on owning a 3000 ton gorilla in a cardboard cage. And insisting on this arrangement the gorilla ends up owning them.
The first mistake was entering into a contract (the Constitution) with a monopolist protection racket.
low preference guy
02-16-2010, 09:58 PM
the Constitution is at best a cage for the state. Once the beast has found a way out, even if you manage to achieve the monumental task of getting it back in, it becomes easier and easier for it to escape with minimal effort.
The problem is not that the cage does not suffice, its the fact that the masses are intent on owning a 3000 pound gorilla in a cardboard cage. And insisting on this arrangement the gorilla ends up owning them.
anarchist?
awake
02-16-2010, 10:04 PM
anarchist?
No, Anarcho-capitalist --- Capitalism in its unhindered form can provide systematically for the needs of security and protection. The ability to own and knowledge in the use of a self defensive ballistic weapon system is proof of my claim.
low preference guy
02-16-2010, 10:13 PM
Knew it.
awake
02-16-2010, 10:19 PM
Knew it.
Anarchist is not the same as anarcho-capitalist by the way... there is a huge difference.
low preference guy
02-16-2010, 10:52 PM
awake, I disagree. That's like asking: Are you human? No, I'm black. (or hispanic, or whatever)
It doesn't make sense, because every black is a human.
If you are an anarcho-capitalist, you ARE an anarchist, even though they are not the same thing.
CapitalistRadical
02-16-2010, 10:56 PM
The argument against anarcho-capitalism is difficult to make. Has there been an instance of a Republic that did not devolve into Tyranny?
In this sense minarchism is like a second marriage, the triumph of hope over experience.
awake
02-16-2010, 11:09 PM
awake, I disagree. That's like asking: Are you human? No, I'm black. (or hispanic, or whatever)
It doesn't make sense, because every black is a human.
If you are an anarcho-capitalist, you ARE an anarchist, even though they are not the same thing.
Well, I guess I have to explane the difference.
Anarchisim is a belief that man can live without government and that everyone is capable, with proper education, to realize the errors of his ways; to live like angels on their best behavior with one another. No authority wanted or needed.
Anarcho-capitalist; I Believe that the services government perform in the law, justice and defense sector can be better achieved by the free market like every other good and service you can buy. Man being what he is, there are murders , thiefs' and thugs; there always will be; I simply believe that you do not need a monopoly to deal with these issues, as a monopoly in law, justice and protection will grow to attack those institutions of civilization and thus attack the very people who it claims to defend ( happening as we speak).
see the difference?
low preference guy
02-16-2010, 11:22 PM
see the difference?
Then why do you call yourselves anarcho-capitalists? You guys are ridiculous.
Indy Vidual
02-16-2010, 11:25 PM
Contract with America PartII
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Knew it.
Eye of Newt 2012! :eek:
Newt World Order 2016 :confused:
awake
02-17-2010, 05:37 AM
Then why do you call yourselves anarcho-capitalists? You guys are ridiculous.
Hardly.
Austrian Econ Disciple
02-17-2010, 05:44 AM
Then why do you call yourselves anarcho-capitalists? You guys are ridiculous.
Anarchy is defined as the absence of the State. Anarchy is such a loaded term because it has contradicting definitions. I find if you define your terms beforehand it helps to alleviate confusion. Yes, we are anarchists. Yes, we are Laissez-Faire Market radicals. Yes, we are Natural Law logical conclusionists.
It's just funny that Thomas Woods is so beloved around here, when he is an unabashed ANARCHO-CAPITALIST. Good lord you hypocrits.
itshappening
02-17-2010, 06:02 AM
Here's your fuckin' contract
http://department.monm.edu/Classics/cpl/PromotionalMaterials/USConstitution.jpg
If it's not in there, then get rid of it.
Now, do we really need something else? Jackasses.........
hello Aravoth, can you make a video for Win Rand Win? :-_)
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