Do we form a third party, or do we take back the existing parties?

[Lisle16]

Simple question.

It seems that the Libertarian Party isn't that popular (though that may change).

I don't see many changes to the two-party system now, so I think we need to take back both parties.

[Vessol]

Our attempts at taking over the Republican party have pretty much switched around to them taking over us..

[TCE]

Rand Paul would never have a chance as a third party candidate. Neither would any other candidate we are running. Until the laws are changed at the State Legislature level, running as a third party candidate is nearly impossible. This has been discussed heavily. I suggest going back a few pages or doing a forum search.

[Anti Federalist]

Our attempts at taking over the Republican party have pretty much switched around to them taking over us..

Ugh, very true and what I was leery of from the get go.

[haaaylee]

Can we stop asking this question?

As individuals, make up your own mind on what you think would be the best approach at changing your local community.

Educate there and then worry about "parties"

[AJ Antimony]

If the goal is to elect like minded libertarian people, no matter what party they are, then that leaves only one deciding factor: ballot accessibility. And whether you like it or not, it's far easier to get on the ballot as a R/D than as a third party candidate.

[Endgame]

I think the LP was subverted and rendered useless a long time ago. We need to stay a lot more mobile. "too many to name" as the MIAC report said.

[romacox]

It is true third parties have little chance, and it is set up that way. As a third party candidate Ron Paul had no chance, and as a Republican they also rigged the game against him.

It does not appear the public is ready to massively vote for the human being void of any party. But that is what it will take in order to take the control the elitists have over our elections. Perhaps after enough times being fooled, the people will decide take control.

[LittleLightShining]

Our attempts at taking over the Republican party have pretty much switched around to them taking over us..Yep.


Can we stop asking this question?

As individuals, make up your own mind on what you think would be the best approach at changing your local community.

Educate there and then worry about "parties"Exactly.

[paulitics]

Infiltrate them, no question. The machinery is already set up, which makes ot alot easier and less expensive than if we were to start from scratch. We get exposure from the media, etc.

Would we have Ron Paul, Debra Medina, Rand Paul, etc making waves if they were running on a libertarian ticket? Clearly not.

Any 3rd party would be infiltrated very easily. And there would be lots of infighting over petty things that don't matter, because of the tactics used by the infiltrators,

[Flash]

Infiltrate. The two party system is awesome for us. We can start running Ron Paul Democrats when Republicans are hated again. Besides if anyone thinks a third party will be this magical party of Libertarian purity is delusional. If the LP ever became a viable party you would get people like Bob Barr and Lindsey Graham running it.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Simple question.

It seems that the Libertarian Party isn't that popular (though that may change).

I don't see many changes to the two-party system now, so I think we need to take back both parties.

As the Supreme Court in its infancy did not understand its power to decide constitutionality, it was the two party system that first evolved to sway interpretation of it. The two party system still performs that function sufficiently to keep radical change from happening to the Constitution beyond that of ammending (careful alterings).

Every party is made up of and a compromise between many small parties. This makes both parties moderate. If president Obama has chosen to support an extremist agenda, he has proven that he has far more elegance than sense.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Infiltrate. The two party system is awesome for us. We can start running Ron Paul Democrats when Republicans are hated again. Besides if anyone thinks a third party will be this magical party of Libertarian purity is delusional. If the LP ever became a viable party you would get people like Bob Barr and Lindsey Graham running it.

Having three parties does not make sense. This nation wasn't founded on a deep, political science as governments were in Europe, but on a natural law. As the Truth established by this natural law is self evident to the extent that it needs no experts explaining it to the people, and unalienable to the extent that it reduces bipartisanly to the collective conscience of every American, we don't need three parties.
The main reason the two party system was established in the United States was to judge Constitutionality (more like sway it) as the Supreme Court did not handle this chore in its infancy.

[johnrocks]

Gotta use what is available, if everybody would jump into the GOP that believes the way we do, we could get some people elected and then dismantle the rules that make it such a hassle for third parties to compete.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Gotta use what is available, if everybody would jump into the GOP that believes the way we do, we could get some people elected and then dismantle the rules that make it such a hassle for third parties to compete.

But reality is never about others believing as we do, but it is always about compromise. Besides, Americans aren't in the game to create the perfect government, but we are in the game to establish a "necessary tyranny" to serve the people for their betterment.

[moostraks]

Infiltrate. The two party system is awesome for us. We can start running Ron Paul Democrats when Republicans are hated again. Besides if anyone thinks a third party will be this magical party of Libertarian purity is delusional. If the LP ever became a viable party you would get people like Bob Barr and Lindsey Graham running it.

Which should scare the crap out of tptb sufficiently one would think.:)