Someone accusing Kokesh of being a traitor

[KAYA]

On the 9/12 site...

http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/adam-kokesh-a-traitor-in-new-1

So I started another thread saying he is a patriot.

http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/adam-kokesh-is-a-patriot

I'm posting this not to bash 9/12ers because there are a ton of Ron Paul and Debra Medina supports there, but to gain some more Kokesh supports to set the record straight about him. The 9/12 group has alot of participants and we can't let Adams reputation get smeared by these lies.


Here is what was posted.




adam kokesh is running for congressman from New Mexico, 3rd District. he is passing himself off as a conservative republican in the ron paul style, and he has the endorsement of the 9/12 project.


BEWARE of kokesh!


he is a member of the Iraq Veterans Against War. he is a disgraced ex-marine. he has participated in numerous anti-america protests in washington dc, and has aligned himself with many anti-america and communist groups.


google him:
He has admitted to drug abuse on his blog (which has since been altered since he started his congressional campaign but not before TAH captured it). Remember Kokesh when he teamed up with Jon DeWald to disparage veterans? Remember when Kokesh tried to start some violence on GWUs campus by tacking up handbills around campus that were obviously racist, but were blamed on a conservative student group?

he is a chameleon who changes his politics with the direction of the political wind. While the anti-war movement was deteriorating, Kokesh changed horses in midstream to become Paulian and now hes a Republican candidate in New Mexico. Last March, Kokesh was marching with communists, anarchists and socialists in the ANSWER march on the Pentagon. Today hes instructing us on his commitment to the Constitution on FOX NEWS as a REPUBLICAN candidate. In just ten months.

i personally encountered, and counter-protested kokesh at a number of anti-war/anti-america rallies in washington dc, NYC, and kennebunkport maine when he was active in the Iraq Veterans Against War. he was also involved in the Winter Soldier II conference in 2008 in which he and his band of betrayers attempted to re-enact john kerry's winter soldier conference of 1971. kokesh and the betrayers attempted to paint the military as murderers.

HOW DID THIS TRAITOR GET THE 9/12 PROJECT ENDORSEMENT -

[ctiger2]

LOL! Kokesh is the poster boy for the American Patriot.

This person is confusing America with American Policy.

Kokesh = pro American = Kokesh = anti American policies = American Patriot

[Todd]

LOL! Kokesh is the poster boy for the American Patriot.

This person is confusing America with American Policy.

Kokesh = pro American = Kokesh = anti American policies = American Patriot

Yes...
See....that's how the game is played.

Against the war in Iraq = Don't support the troops
Attend a War protest = Anti American

Been very effective for some time now.

[torchbearer]

fud.

[gls]

Sounds like this person is a huge war supporter. I doubt he or she would ever vote for Kokesh.

[WaltM]

On the 9/12 site...

http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/adam-kokesh-a-traitor-in-new-1

So I started another thread saying he is a patriot.

http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/adam-kokesh-is-a-patriot


since when were 912ers ever supporters of Kokesh or Paul?

[Deborah K]

Show them this: YouTube - Adam Kokesh speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOp_9VfR6o)

[erowe1]

I'd reply something like this:


Was Smedley Butler a traitor?
What about Robert Taft? Garet Garrett? Albert J. Nock?

Do we have to embrace the foreign policy of the Progressive movement now, exemplified by the likes of Wilson, FDR, Truman, Johnson, and Bush, not to be considered traitors in the 912 project? Isn't that kind of deferential attitude to the ruling regime and its appropriation of our lives and property for the increase of its own power precisely the opposite of patriotism?

[KAYA]

Sounds like this person is a huge war supporter. I doubt he or she would ever vote for Kokesh.

Not trying to change this persons mind only setting the record straight for those who don't know about Adam and read this garbage.

[KAYA]

Show them this: YouTube - Adam Kokesh speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOp_9VfR6o)

Already did. ;)

[KAYA]

since when were 912ers ever supporters of Kokesh or Paul?

I'm telling you, there are a bunch of 9/12er that support Ron Paul.

And check out all the positive comments about Medina.

http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/debra-medina-tx-gov-candidate

[disorderlyvision]

:rolleyes: is it HeWho Pawns

[torchbearer]

:rolleyes: is it HeWho Pawns


yup

[ronpaulhawaii]

There is a small group of war-mongers who are spamming this. Here some comments from a site I visited yesterday:


Permalink Reply by MichaelM 1 day ago
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This post is just full of fail. TAH is practically a Kokesh hate site. They seem to think that disagreeing with US Foreign Policy equates to being un-American or against the troops. The reality is far different. What I would like to see is TAH address the skyrocketing suicides in the military (We lost more troops to suicide than enemy action last year. Anyone not addressing this grave situation is most assuredly NOT supporting the troops.)

Kokesh, on the other hand has been heavily involved in Veterans Issues since his return from Iraq. I visited Kokesh at the group home for vets he started in DC, where he ran PTSD counseling sessions, to find out if he was for real or not. He is. He was the token conservative in a liberal environment. I saw him defending true conservative, constitutional principles, and turning liberals away from their delusions. Kokesh has never "changed horses", he is not a "disgraced Marine" (he was discharged HONORABLY from the Marines). He is not a 'drug abuser", and has even quit drinking since his days re-adjusting from fighting in Fallujah. He realized in Iraq that the greatest threats to our country are not to be found in some far off land, but rather right here at home. He was morally outraged and was one of the first Republicans with the stones to speak up for the constitution, even when it was unpopular. He won a great victory for Veterans 1st Amendment Rights during this time, no matter how TAH tries to spin it.

So, New Mexicans are faced with a choice between a conservative who rejects the welfare/warfare state, or an actual Socialist Liberal. Kokesh's GOP opponent is about as inspiring as a pickle, who has no chance of turning the 15k swing votes needed to win NM3rd. (Further, he campaigns in churches spreading lies (as a Christian I can only pray for him), and now, after spending the last few months bragging how his professional management experience makes him more qualified than Kokesh, he filed his FEC paperwork late and has wasted his supporters money to fines/etc.)

Finally, any "conservative" who supports endless war seems very confused to me. Perhaps this video will help explain why

YouTube - SA@TAC - Taking the 'Neo' Out of 'Conservative' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHr5qdIwb7U)
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Permalink Reply by streetsweeper 23 hours ago
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MichaelM;

I hardly call a reduction in rank and discharge for attempting to smuggle a pistol past Customs in Kuwait a petty thing. Kokesh showed you a good time in DC with his "stand off" to, huh? Hm, guess the rest of the crew needs to weigh in on this one :)

Hi Beverly and Suzanne! Yes we did disrupt Winter Crybabies 2 huh? Long time no see!

streetsweeper
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Permalink Reply by MichaelM 23 hours ago
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Hi Streetsweeper, I'd hardly call a soldier taking a war souvenir a big deal, and again, he was discharged from Active Duty HONORABLY. The political persecution he suffered AS A CIVILIAN is indicative of how far we have drifted from the Constitution.

No he did, not "show me a good time". I was sent there to vett him.

Anyone who supports endless war is NOT a conservative and has NO respect for the US Constitution. People can act like they support the Constitution all they want, but actions speak louder than words and un-declared wars are unconstitutional.

Again, New Mexico has a choice along the lines of Reagan's 80/20 rule. Either Kokesh for constitutional conservatism, or the incumbent for socialist liberalism.
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Permalink Reply by streetsweeper 22 hours ago
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Guess you could say that since you think smuggling an enemy pistol home in his luggage is no big deal. Good thing ATF and Customs see it differently as in against federal law. Make no mistake about it I don't like an endless war and when our troops are sent in, I prefer they go in to win. As for Adam's persecution and civilian activities, he knows full well his alliance and activities with the communist groups that sponsor those activities.
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Permalink Reply by MichaelM 21 hours ago
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Philosophically, you seem to be in agreement with gun-grabbers? Do you really think the federal gov't has the right to infringe on our inalienable right to keep and bear arms? Or are these unconstitutional laws that you are relying on to further your agenda?

And historically, soldiers have always taken home war souvenirs, so, no, I don't think it is a big deal.

Finally, his ability to work with many groups, while maintaining his own conservative principles, is a sign of leadership and will be crucial in winning NM3rd. Again, New Mexicans would do well to remember Reagan's 80/20 rule, because Kokesh is the ONLY conservative who can build the kind coalition that can take the seat away from the incumbent machine. I have witnessed him standing on principle in hostile environments and have no doubt that he will maintain those same conservative principles in office. As an example, here is Adam defending Capitalism in Japan

YouTube - Adam Kokesh: Diplomat for Capitalism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLHBgKuJUyk)
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Permalink Reply by Larry Bailey 20 hours ago
Adam Kokesh is NOT a conservative. He is a highly articulate and persuasive young man who is taken with a sense of his own importance. He was NOT honorably discharged from the USMC; he was given a general discharge. And he was demoted from his last rank held in the Corps.

Kokesh is a liar and a self-promoting huckster. I personally encountered him in his IVAW demonstration at the US Military Recruiting Office in downtown DC, and his attitude was anything but patriotic.

I would be willing to bet (if one could get at the truth) that he voted for his fellow "conservative," Barack Hussein Obama.

Michael M. obviously doesn't know Adam Kokesh.
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Permalink Reply by MichaelM 16 hours ago
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Adam was honorably discharged from Active Duty with the USMC. The political persecution he was subject to resulted in his discharge from the Ready Reserve with a "General Discharge, under Honorable Conditions." Get your facts straight if you want to have any credibility. I am absolutely positive that he did not vote for Obama, and I witnessed him getting people to vote for anyone but Obama. Which of his positions (that he has steadfastly maintained) do you consider "NOT conservative" He is Pro-life, Pro-Gun, Pro-National Defense, Limited Gov't, Low Taxes, and Individual Liberty.

Perhaps you are trying to change the definition of the word conservative?