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Bergie Bergeron
02-08-2010, 03:45 PM
David Adams is looking for people who got push poll phone calls against Rand Paul.
What is that exactly? Haven't seen the words push poll before.

Austin
02-08-2010, 03:47 PM
From wiki


A push poll is a political campaign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_campaign) technique in which an individual or organization attempts to influence or alter the view of respondents under the guise of conducting a poll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_poll). In a push poll, large numbers of respondents are contacted, and little or no effort is made to collect and analyze response data. Instead, the push poll is a form of telemarketing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telemarketing)-based propaganda and rumor mongering, masquerading as a poll. Push polls may rely on innuendo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innuendo) or knowledge gleaned from opposition research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_research) on an opponent. They are generally viewed as a form of negative campaigning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_campaigning).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll#cite_note-0) The term is also sometimes used inaccurately to refer to legitimate polls which test political messages, some of which may be negative.

Dreamofunity
02-08-2010, 04:03 PM
Push Poll from Johnson: "If you had the choice between a pro-life hero like Johnson, or a toddler-killing-psychopath like Paul, who would you vote for?"

Push Poll from Grayson: "If you had the choice between a strong national defense hero like Grayson, or a terrorist supporting wussy like Paul, who would you vote for?"

John Taylor
02-08-2010, 04:05 PM
Push Poll from Johnson: "If you had the choice between a pro-life hero like Johnson, or a toddler-killing-psychopath like Paul, who would you vote for?"

Push Poll from Grayson: "If you had the choice between a strong national defense hero like Grayson, or a terrorist supporting wussy like Paul, who would you vote for?"

Hell, todlers? Pretty soon we'll be ready to move up to full fledged floppy-eared squirming puppies!!!!

DeadheadForPaul
02-08-2010, 04:06 PM
Push polls are pretty much the most evil thing ever

Dubya used them in the 2000 primaries against John McCain

Perhaps the most famous use of push polls is in the 2000 United States Republican Party primaries, when it was alleged that George W. Bush's campaign used push polling to torpedo the campaign of Senator John McCain. Voters in South Carolina reportedly were asked "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?" The poll's allegation had no substance, but was heard by thousands of primary voters.[4] McCain and his wife had in fact adopted a Bangladeshi girl. Political consultant Lee Atwater was also well known for using push-polling among his aggressive campaign tactics. In 2008, Jewish voters in Florida and Pittsburgh were targeted by a push poll attempting to disparage Barack Obama by linking him with the Palestinian Liberation Organization. The Jewish Council for Education & Research, an organization that has endorsed Obama, denounced the push-poll as misinformation and lies.[5][6]

TRUE STORY

John Taylor
02-08-2010, 04:15 PM
Push polls are pretty much the most evil thing ever

Dubya used them in the 2000 primaries against John McCain

Perhaps the most famous use of push polls is in the 2000 United States Republican Party primaries, when it was alleged that George W. Bush's campaign used push polling to torpedo the campaign of Senator John McCain. Voters in South Carolina reportedly were asked "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?" The poll's allegation had no substance, but was heard by thousands of primary voters.[4] McCain and his wife had in fact adopted a Bangladeshi girl. Political consultant Lee Atwater was also well known for using push-polling among his aggressive campaign tactics. In 2008, Jewish voters in Florida and Pittsburgh were targeted by a push poll attempting to disparage Barack Obama by linking him with the Palestinian Liberation Organization. The Jewish Council for Education & Research, an organization that has endorsed Obama, denounced the push-poll as misinformation and lies.[5][6]

TRUE STORY

So what you're saying. . . .

I should form a 527 and commission telephone calls to Kentucky voters?

No defense like a good offense????

erowe1
02-08-2010, 04:21 PM
Push polls are pretty much the most evil thing ever

Dubya used them in the 2000 primaries against John McCain

Perhaps the most famous use of push polls is in the 2000 United States Republican Party primaries, when it was alleged that George W. Bush's campaign used push polling to torpedo the campaign of Senator John McCain. Voters in South Carolina reportedly were asked "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?" The poll's allegation had no substance, but was heard by thousands of primary voters.[4] McCain and his wife had in fact adopted a Bangladeshi girl. Political consultant Lee Atwater was also well known for using push-polling among his aggressive campaign tactics. In 2008, Jewish voters in Florida and Pittsburgh were targeted by a push poll attempting to disparage Barack Obama by linking him with the Palestinian Liberation Organization. The Jewish Council for Education & Research, an organization that has endorsed Obama, denounced the push-poll as misinformation and lies.[5][6]

TRUE STORY

McCain used push polls against Bush in Michigan in 2000 too. His campaign paid for them, but the calls themselves were worded so as to sound like they came from some Catholic organization, and started out, "This is a Catholic voter alert..." and proceeded to talk about how Bush was anti-Catholic because he spoke at Bob Jones University.

koob
02-08-2010, 05:46 PM
Here's a news article about it from KYRG-News: http://www.wkrg.com/raw_news/article/paul_alleges_political_shenanigans_in_senate_race/710364/Feb-08-2010_5-13-pm/

BamaFanNKy
02-08-2010, 06:10 PM
GAME ---------------------------> ON! Proves we are in the lead.

John Taylor
02-08-2010, 06:13 PM
game ---------------------------> on! Proves we are in the lead.

mother of god.

beazy
02-08-2010, 06:23 PM
they really want to play this game?


Push Poll:

Would the fact that Trey Grayson is a former democrat who supported Bill Clinton make you more likely or less likely to vote for him as the GOP nominee in the upcoming primary?


You you be more likely or less likely to vote for Trey Grayson knowing that his father's bank received TARP funds?

You you be more likely or less likely to vote for Trey Grayson knowing he is a fellow at the Aspen Institute, a radical left wing organization, who Jack Conway the democrat is also a fellow.

The list goes on....

As for Jill

Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for Bill Johnson knowing the only endorsement he has received is from the radical lunatic Alan Keyes and a dead guy?

amisspelledword
02-08-2010, 06:23 PM
you guys are going to lose your minds once trey grayson starts really campaiging

BamaFanNKy
02-08-2010, 06:24 PM
you guys are going to lose your minds once trey grayson starts really campaiging

Especially if I'm stuck listening to him speak. Lord, he is cliche and has no original thought.

beazy
02-08-2010, 06:25 PM
No because all they can do is distort Rand's stances, we dont have to distort the issues we have with Trey are facts.

Cowlesy
02-08-2010, 06:25 PM
you guys are going to lose your minds once trey grayson starts really campaiging

hahahaha --- so true.

specsaregood
02-08-2010, 06:26 PM
This push poll is a good thing for Rand as it uncovers a huge weakness in that the voters do not know him or his positions well enough to recognize when they are being lied to. This is important because Grayson is going to run these same smears as advertisements soon and that will reach a whole lot more people than this silly push poll. If anything this push poll can be seen as test case for grayson's campaign on how well smear ads will work and I'd be less than surprised if it was run/"commissioned" for that very reason.
ie: before buying ad time and putting $/effort into making smear ads, find out if they are worth it. At this stage, I think one can safely say they will work well.

BamaFanNKy
02-08-2010, 06:27 PM
We need to do some Star Wars Fark posters:
YouTube - Trey Grayson plays with his Star Wars toys in the state capitol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxaVIy-Lo-4)

Dreamofunity
02-08-2010, 07:05 PM
We need to do some Star Wars Fark posters:
YouTube - Trey Grayson plays with his Star Wars toys in the state capitol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxaVIy-Lo-4)

Oh god, what a man-child.


Edit: This in no way is a diss against star wars fans; one is only a man-child if they awkwardly have extra neck skin and giggle like a little school girl when referencing star wars.

amisspelledword
02-08-2010, 07:08 PM
ooooooh that video............................................. .... its just..................... too much

BamaFanNKy
02-08-2010, 07:10 PM
Oh god, what a man-child.


Edit: This in no way is a diss against star wars fans; one is only a man-child if they awkwardly have extra neck skin and giggle like a little school girl when referencing star wars.

You better retract your statement:
YouTube - Darth Vader being a smartass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5blbv4WFriM)

BamaFanNKy
02-08-2010, 07:11 PM
While we are talking Star Wars:
YouTube - Eddie Izzard Star Wars Cantina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ2yRTRlMFU)

Dreamofunity
02-08-2010, 07:13 PM
I bet he used tax payers money to buy that collectors item.