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devil21
02-06-2010, 09:11 PM
Meteorologists are calling the snow storm over the mid Atlantic "the largest snowfall in recorded history" for the area. Parts of the DC area are under 3 feet of snow according to VA's Governor and a state of emergency has been declared.

Mother nature seems to be smacking around the IPCC worshippers a lot lately.

New2Libertarianism
02-06-2010, 09:25 PM
If D.C. and a fair share of the U.S. are cooler than normal, then it cancels out the rest of the globe being warmer than usual.

Brett
02-06-2010, 10:03 PM
In my area in Baltimore we're about 2 inches away from the single-day record.

Ricky201
02-06-2010, 10:14 PM
Lol...

paulitics
02-06-2010, 10:21 PM
Meteorologists are calling the snow storm over the mid Atlantic "the largest snowfall in recorded history" for the area. Parts of the DC area are under 3 feet of snow according to VA's Governor and a state of emergency has been declared.

Mother nature seems to be smacking around the IPCC worshippers a lot lately.

It was also DC's 2nd blizzard this year. The Copenhagen blizzard certainly bitchslapped these quacks, when they had to end it early because of snow. I love it.

paulitics
02-06-2010, 10:24 PM
If D.C. and a fair share of the U.S. are cooler than normal, then it cancels out the rest of the globe being warmer than usual.


What time period is "warmer than usual"? How far do you go back, since 1950, or the little ice age?

sevin
02-07-2010, 12:04 AM
It's not global warming anymore. It's "climate change." :rolleyes:

TCE
02-07-2010, 12:07 AM
If it is too hot, we are responsible. And if it is abnormally cold, we are also causing it. If the temperatures are completely normal, then something is wrong, because temperatures can't be "normal," they are always changing.

dvictr
02-07-2010, 12:11 AM
In California.. we've had so much rain that the reservoirs are full but they are refusing to lift the rations on water use!

DapperDan
02-07-2010, 02:39 AM
It's not global warming anymore. It's "climate change." :rolleyes:

"The Phenomenon Formally Known as Global Warming" is what it's called now.

Bets on the next name Al Gore throws out....

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/global-warming-al-gore.jpg

BenIsForRon
02-07-2010, 03:12 AM
That's a funny picture. Global warming is man made... but that doesn't make the picture not funny.

And you guys no global warming is happening over decades, not years, right? So this winter is statistically an outlier, which happens every once in a while on this planet.

jsu718
02-07-2010, 03:18 AM
That's a funny picture. Global warming is man made... but that doesn't make the picture not funny.

And you guys no global warming is happening over decades, not years, right? So this winter is statistically an outlier, which happens every once in a while on this planet.

And it has been getting cooler for the past 10 years, not just this one. You know that, right?

BenIsForRon
02-07-2010, 03:24 AM
Not what I heard, guess we'll have to stay tuned.

slothman
02-07-2010, 03:36 AM
GW doesn't mean all places will get warmer.
It means the average temp will get higher.
Many places, such as Erupoe(sic) will in fact get colder.
The picture is funny though, or at least the comment.

P.S. I spelled it that way to get the word to get higher on Google.

devil21
02-07-2010, 03:41 AM
GW doesn't mean all places will get warmer.
It means the average temp will get higher.
Many places, such as Erupoe(sic) will in fact get colder.
The picture is funny though, or at least the comment.

P.S. I spelled it that way to get the word to get higher on Google.

Not exactly "global" then, is it?


Some how I doubt "local warming" would get people too riled up.

SelfTaught
02-07-2010, 07:43 AM
That's a funny picture. Global warming is man made... but that doesn't make the picture not funny.

And you guys no global warming is happening over decades, not years, right? So this winter is statistically an outlier, which happens every once in a while on this planet.

Every climate/temperature trend happens over decades or centuries but that doesn't make it man-made. Was the midieval warming period man-made? Yet that trend took place over centuries.

Fod God's sake, research the impact that CO2 has on temperature. It is a tiny fraction of total atmospheric gas and is a very small fraction of atmospheric greenhouse gases. And even as a greenhouse gas it has less of an impact on temperature than water vapor, which makes up a much much much greater percentage of the atmosphere than C02.

Man-made global warming is bullshit.

Bruno
02-07-2010, 07:47 AM
That's a funny picture. Global warming is man made... but that doesn't make the picture not funny.

And you guys no global warming is happening over decades, not years, right? So this winter is statistically an outlier, which happens every once in a while on this planet.

this should help

Global Warming Skeptics Handbook II

http://joannenova.com.au/globalwarming/skeptics-handbook-ii/the_skeptics_handbook_II-sml.pdf

ShowMeLiberty
02-07-2010, 09:39 AM
That's a funny picture. Global warming is man made... but that doesn't make the picture not funny.

And you guys no global warming is happening over decades, not years, right? So this winter is statistically an outlier, which happens every once in a while on this planet.

Subconciously, you know the truth.

pacelli
02-07-2010, 10:04 AM
It's not global warming anymore. It's "climate change." :rolleyes:

This "climate change" garbage has gone too far, don't you think? (Not you quoting it, but I mean the concept of 'climate change' in general).

The climate is constantly changing. Matter of fact the change occurs four times a year. It is called a season.

Right now, we're experiencing one season called winter. Part of winter for many people involves something called snow.

payme_rick
02-07-2010, 10:11 AM
Of course global warming/climate change is man made... Gore = Man...

New2Libertarianism
02-07-2010, 10:35 AM
And it has been getting cooler for the past 10 years, not just this one. You know that, right?http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/temp-analysis-2009.html
NASA disagrees.

rancher89
02-07-2010, 10:55 AM
I want pictures of three feet of snow in DC....LOL They must be freakin' out! We get an inch (or even just a warning of an inch) and the schools close (mid southern NC)

UTUBE OR IT DIDN"T HAPPEN LOLOL:):):)

paulitics
02-07-2010, 11:14 AM
Of course global warming/climate change is man made... Gore = Man...

Acatually it is Mann Made global warming. Michael Mann made it up.

paulitics
02-07-2010, 11:22 AM
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/temp-analysis-2009.html
NASA disagrees.

Geezus. They have been discredited like 100 times. Fudging numbers. Lying about when the warmest year(s) on record were for the U.S. Any independent thinker who spends 10 minutes researching this, would know NASA are not obective scientists, but agenda driven. They were caught too many times inflating their numbers. How do they make their money? Do you think Nasa will destroy their own gravy train?

MelissaWV
02-07-2010, 11:22 AM
Not exactly "global" then, is it?


Some how I doubt "local warming" would get people too riled up.

Global warming is about averages. Averages are not the greatest statistical figure to use for things, though, but that's a matter for another thread.

One can have the global average temperature rise, and even the ocean level rise, but not have those same changes reflected in each and every possible place on the planet.

Climate change IS more appropriate, because it leads to more violent storms, more extremes in the weather, and changes to flora and fauna.

Of course, is humanity purely responsible for it? No. Can humanity do things to stop being such a nasty polluting blight on patches of the planet? Yes. Should these things be mandated? No.

Easy stuff.

rancher89
02-07-2010, 11:22 AM
Pictures!!!!!!!

LittleLightShining
02-07-2010, 11:25 AM
As I sit here in north central VT looking at brown grass :(

paulitics
02-07-2010, 11:36 AM
Global warming is about averages. Averages are not the greatest statistical figure to use for things, though, but that's a matter for another thread.

One can have the global average temperature rise, and even the ocean level rise, but not have those same changes reflected in each and every possible place on the planet.

Climate change IS more appropriate, because it leads to more violent storms, more extremes in the weather, and changes to flora and fauna.

Of course, is humanity purely responsible for it? No. Can humanity do things to stop being such a nasty polluting blight on patches of the planet? Yes. Should these things be mandated? No.

Easy stuff.


I'm not sure if I agree with the "more violent storms" unless there is incontrovertable proof of there being so. So far, there is none. For instance, the media keeps saying that global warming will create more violent hurricanes, but this is not true. With the exception of 2005, the rate of hurricanes have actually been lower than "average". No proof of more tornadoes either, etc. Now with earthquakes, I will have to defer to Danny Glover who knows more than all of us.

MelissaWV
02-07-2010, 11:43 AM
I'm not sure if I agree with the "more violent storms" unless there is incontrovertable proof of there being so. So far, there is none. For instance, the media keeps saying that global warming will create more violent hurricanes, but this is not true. With the exception of 2005, the rate of hurricanes have actually been lower than "average". No proof of more tornadoes either, etc. Now with earthquakes, I will have to defer to Danny Glover who knows more than all of us.

Over time, changes in ocean temperatures would cause changes in storm patterns. You do realize that a cold front is a storm, right? A Noreaster is also a storm. The three feet of snow discussed in the original post was caused by a storm. Tornadoes are not a very good measure of "storm violence" because they require certain conditions to occur. There have been, however, a lot of very violent storms that have caused damage with high winds, hail, lightning, flooding... you get the idea. More than usual? Time will tell on that one.

Bruno
02-07-2010, 11:48 AM
Over time, changes in ocean temperatures would cause changes in storm patterns. You do realize that a cold front is a storm, right? A Noreaster is also a storm. The three feet of snow discussed in the original post was caused by a storm. Tornadoes are not a very good measure of "storm violence" because they require certain conditions to occur. There have been, however, a lot of very violent storms that have caused damage with high winds, hail, lightning, flooding... you get the idea. More than usual? Time will tell on that one.

But the global warming alarmists specifically mentioned an increase in hurricanes, not just storms in general. Those numbers they warned us about have not occured. It shows how inaccurate the forecasting is and the models it was based on.

MelissaWV
02-07-2010, 11:51 AM
But the global warming alarmists specifically mentioned an increase in hurricanes, not just storms in general. Those numbers they warned us about have not occured. It shows how inaccurate the forecasting is and the models it was based on.

Yeah, I remember rolling my eyes at that one. Waters can be boiling hot in the right places, but so long as there's no tropical wave going through the area with a little rotation, nothing's going to happen. Incidentally, hurricanes "begin" as convection over Africa. They're not tropical in nature at that time, but as they make their way over warm enough water, through gentle enough upper level winds, they can develop. Then they have to weave past steering currents that would otherwise curve them back towards Bermuda/the UK/Greenland.

Every year, the hurricane predictions come out, and I sigh because it's a crapshoot... but they don't want to admit it. Some years "seem" awfully quiet until they're not. "Andrew" was an "A" storm, and it struck in late August. It really doesn't friggin' matter how many there are in a year. All it takes is one.

/tangent.

Bruno
02-07-2010, 02:20 PM
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/temp-analysis-2009.html
NASA disagrees.

Does NASA use the same discredited system of of using some global thermometers readings while ignoring others, not accounting for urban sprawl at measuring centers, and having thermometers that are too close to the ground and pick up concrete surface radiation?

jsu718
02-07-2010, 02:30 PM
Does NASA use the same discredited system of of using some global thermometers readings while ignoring others, not accounting for urban sprawl at measuring centers, and having thermometers that are too close to the ground and pick up concrete surface radiation?

They use the same system that has been systematically removing thermometers at higher latitudes and altitudes that eliminate cooler temperatures.

Tangoland
02-07-2010, 02:46 PM
didn't you hear, it's "climate change"

BenIsForRon
02-07-2010, 03:09 PM
More storms will happen on a warmer earth because there is more energy in the atmosphere. Simple as that. That's why you see hurricanes when the ocean is the warmest. If you have more warm months, with a warmer ocean overall, you will have more storms.

paulitics
02-07-2010, 03:24 PM
Over time, changes in ocean temperatures would cause changes in storm patterns. You do realize that a cold front is a storm, right? A Noreaster is also a storm. The three feet of snow discussed in the original post was caused by a storm. Tornadoes are not a very good measure of "storm violence" because they require certain conditions to occur. There have been, however, a lot of very violent storms that have caused damage with high winds, hail, lightning, flooding... you get the idea. More than usual? Time will tell on that one.

There is nothing out of the ordinary with the number of storms or their intensity. There is nothing out of the ordinary with temperature either if you go back hundreds or thousands of years, unlike the IPCC who like to go back 100 and cherry pick data from weather stations with an urban heat island effect that skews the data.

Yes, we are a whopping .6 degrees warmer since the 1880s (the little ice age). The weather has not changed much, nor has the alarmists predictions of snowless winters in England, more hurricanes, or less snow for the northeast occured.

If one makes the claim that the weather is becoming more severe due to global warming, there should be incontrovertable proof to back this up. The burden of proof is on those who make the claim, not those who keep things in persepective and understand the cyclical nature of climate. So far, their predictions fall flat on their face, and the "we'll just see" won't cut it anymore.

paulitics
02-07-2010, 03:26 PM
Does NASA use the same discredited system of of using some global thermometers readings while ignoring others, not accounting for urban sprawl at measuring centers, and having thermometers that are too close to the ground and pick up concrete surface radiation?

Yes, and they love airport readings, lol.