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FrankRep
02-05-2010, 06:33 PM
Seceding Inevitable For Texas?

KSAT - ABC 12 - San Antonio


Is the thought of Texas seceding from the union a hope, wish or dream? Tonight on the KSAT 12 News Nightbeat at 10 p.m., meet members of an organization who say independence is inevitable.


TNM News Story on KSAT-San Antonio

YouTube - TNM News Story on KSAT-San Antonio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiPxCHfkQB0)


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Seeing as we are: San Antonio station to feature Texas Nationalist Movement segment tonight (http://www.texasnationalist.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=258:seeing-us-as-we-are-san-antonio-station-to-feature-tnm-segment-tonight&catid=938:tnm-news&Itemid=104)


Texas Nationalist Movement


What is the Texas Nationalist Movement all about? Those Texans in the viewing area of San Antonio ABC-TV affiliate KSAT, Channel 12, get a chance to find out during Friday’s 10 p.m. newscast.

A KSAT crew was on-hand during the recent “What’s Next?” tour stop in San Antonio by Texas Nationalist Movement president Daniel Miller, then made a trip to Nederland to interview Miller. The station plans to air the footage during its late newscast Friday.

“All too often our movement has been written off in print or by broadcasters who haven’t taken the time to learn a lot about who we are and what we stand for,” Miller said. “In the current political climate, KSAT has recognized that the Texas Nationalist Movement isn’t just some bunch of backroom tax protesters and has taken the time to do the job that more of our news media should do – ask questions and see first-hand what we’re all about.

“KSAT recognizes that we are exerting an influence on the Texas political scene,” Miller added. “This also shows how rapidly we are growing as new outrages by the federal government continue to alienate Texans. I look forward to working with other members of the news media and bringing our message, that there is an alternative to Washington, to the people of Texas.”

For More Information:

POC: Dave Mundy, Media Coordinator
press@texasnationalist.com
(281) 415-4013
National office: (409) 527-4929


Texas Nationalist Movement
http://www.TexasNationalist.com/



Ron Paul - Republic of Texas
YouTube - Ron Paul - Republic of Texas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lmwg4eQ2s)


Lew Rockwell On Secession
YouTube - Interposition, Nullification and Secession on Freedom Watch - Judge talks to Lew Rockwell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgpbDFNAAbU)

FrankRep
02-05-2010, 06:36 PM
Could the Cap and Trade Tax Bill push Texas to Secede from the Union?

YouTube - Texas Nationalist Movement on Cap And Trade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GPn15Ah6GA)

Stary Hickory
02-05-2010, 06:36 PM
I hope Texas does this I will move there. I hope VT and TX both do this

orafi
02-05-2010, 07:18 PM
I hope Texas does this I will move there. I hope VT and TX both do this

Same here. Business will be good in Texas.

Nemesis
02-05-2010, 07:26 PM
Friends,
If Texas leaves the Republica, it will be 1865 all over again.

It would be wiser to get the blue states-CA, NY, MA, OR,RI, NH- to scede and then we, the good people, will destroy them in the same manner Northern Mossouri was laid to waste.

Flash
02-05-2010, 08:03 PM
Friends,
If Texas leaves the Republica, it will be 1865 all over again.

It would be wiser to get the blue states-CA, NY, MA, OR,RI, NH- to scede and then we, the good people, will destroy them in the same manner Northern Mossouri was laid to waste.

New Hampshire and New York aren't really blue states. They're actually swing states. Republicans hold office in NY & NH all the time. In fact the Free State Project isin New Hampshire.

FrankRep
02-05-2010, 08:48 PM
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FrankRep
02-06-2010, 08:39 AM
TNM News Story on KSAT-San Antonio

YouTube - TNM News Story on KSAT-San Antonio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiPxCHfkQB0)

Nemesis
02-06-2010, 11:16 PM
New Hampshire and New York aren't really blue states. They're actually swing states. Republicans hold office in NY & NH all the time. In fact the Free State Project isin New Hampshire.

I didn't know that!

Tell me the last time New York voted Republican.

If it is a "swing state" I take it they voted Republican sometime in the last 3 or 4 presidential elections?

Hmmmmm?

Nemesis
02-06-2010, 11:17 PM
If Texas secedes they'll be destroyed like they were in 1865.

CaseyJones
02-06-2010, 11:22 PM
Free Republic of Texas FTW!! :p

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02-06-2010, 11:26 PM
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ROFLMAO!!!!

That shirt is 110% win. I needed that laugh.

The Patriot
02-06-2010, 11:33 PM
If Texas secedes they'll be destroyed like they were in 1865.

No they won't, they have nuclear installations and military bases. Texans in the military won't turn on their own, most will probably join the secessionist movement. I think the Texans stand a good chance considering their vast amount of natural resources and wealth. Considering the fact the American Armed forces can't put down the Taliban who aren't as well equipped as Texas would be nor as large I don't think they will be able to contain Texas and stop them from seceding.

Endgame
02-06-2010, 11:47 PM
No they won't, they have nuclear installations and military bases. Texans in the military won't turn on their own, most will probably join the secessionist movement. I think the Texans stand a good chance considering their vast amount of natural resources and wealth. Considering the fact the American Armed forces can't put down the Taliban who aren't as well equipped as Texas would be nor as large I don't think they will be able to contain Texas and stop them from seceding.

Consider that those military bases are currently staffed by people from all over the Union. The Texas State Guard and National Guard would need to seize those bases and I doubt the FedGov would let that happen without a fight unless the rest of the country is already in total collapse.

Its also not going to happen unless a governor sympathetic to the idea of secession gets elected...

The Patriot
02-06-2010, 11:53 PM
Consider that those military bases are currently staffed by people from all over the Union. The Texas State Guard and National Guard would need to seize those bases and I doubt the FedGov would let that happen without a fight unless the rest of the country is already in total collapse.

Its also not going to happen unless a governor sympathetic to the idea of secession gets elected...

I think Secession is inevitable if we continue on our current economic course. Our economic model just isn't sustainable. The country will collapse under debt, inflation, and high taxes to finance these huge deficits. Secession will be beneficial to states like Texas. The Feds might not be able to stop states from breaking away because they simply won't have the money to raise armies.

constituent
02-07-2010, 06:44 AM
If Texas secedes they'll be destroyed like they were in 1865.

Were we now? I hope you're not referring to the Battle of Glorieta Pass or Palmito Ranch (after the war was already over, lol)... Most Texans were chillin' during the civil war, though many did fight (union and confederacy). Hell there were even feuds over it, but that hardly counts as "destroyed."

Spent any time studying the reaction to Reconstruction in Texas?

I realize we all wish history ran the straight and narrow, but...

Flash
02-07-2010, 07:44 AM
I didn't know that!

Tell me the last time New York voted Republican.

If it is a "swing state" I take it they voted Republican sometime in the last 3 or 4 presidential elections?

Hmmmmm?

I don't know about Presidential elections but New York is known to go Republican:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pataki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani

New Hampshire also votes Republican:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Sununu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judd_Gregg

The only people in New Hampshire pushing for secession are the Free Staters/Libertarians:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-07-2010, 08:15 AM
Everyone should join the FSP and move there. We could flood the state easy. They all ready have a healthy dose of libertarian GOP in the State legislature, and if we got 10,000 early movers there instead of the 1,000 early movers we could easily shake up the State (more so than it all ready is). It is all ready one of the freest if not the most free State in the country and their legislature is huge so it is easier to get elected. You also have a crazy amount of activities going on. Something to think about since I think on the National scene it is going to be impossible to get even 20 libertarians elected. I'm hoping we get at least four or five in 2010. Ron does have a shot in 2012, but I still think the solution must come from the States, or State :p

I'll most likely be finishing my BS at UNH or perhaps a different Uni in NH, but I hope the people of Texas will work with VT, NH, MT, and AK as I see these 5 States being the most likely to seceede (And are also the most heavily armed :p). I figure some kind of treaty between the Independant countries would arise for mutual defense. I just hope the States don't wait until the currency implodes.....

Son of Liberty 2
02-07-2010, 08:25 AM
Seceding Inevitable For Texas?
Texas will probably secede from the Union and then join Mexico.

Met Income
02-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Texas will probably secede from the Union and then join Mexico.

Really? Will they?

Nemesis
02-07-2010, 01:59 PM
Were we now? I hope you're not referring to the Battle of Glorieta Pass or Palmito Ranch (after the war was already over, lol)... Most Texans were chillin' during the civil war, though many did fight (union and confederacy). Hell there were even feuds over it, but that hardly counts as "destroyed."

Spent any time studying the reaction to Reconstruction in Texas?

I realize we all wish history ran the straight and narrow, but...


How did secession work in 1861?

I realize most Texans decided to sit out the civil war, but if Texas thinks they can go it alone they are sadly mistaken.

Get the blue-states to seceded and we can crush them and their progressiveness for decades to come.

Signed,

A Proud New Mexican.

Flash
02-07-2010, 02:17 PM
How did secession work in 1861?

I realize most Texans decided to sit out the civil war, but if Texas thinks they can go it alone they are sadly mistaken.

Get the blue-states to seceded and we can crush them and their progressiveness for decades to come.

Signed,

A Proud New Mexican.

Honestly we wouldn't even need to crush them. If a state like Vermont seceded they would probably bankrupt themselves and it would be an embarrassment for big-government liberals.

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-07-2010, 02:23 PM
How did secession work in 1861?

I realize most Texans decided to sit out the civil war, but if Texas thinks they can go it alone they are sadly mistaken.

Get the blue-states to seceded and we can crush them and their progressiveness for decades to come.

Signed,

A Proud New Mexican.

Secession worked just fine in 1776. Secession would have worked just fine in 1861 if it wasn't for General Lee sticking so stringently to the Just War Theory, vis a vis not invading the North and DC after Manasses when they routed the entirity of the Union Army and McClellan didn't know what struck him.

The Patriot
02-07-2010, 04:24 PM
How did secession work in 1861?

I realize most Texans decided to sit out the civil war, but if Texas thinks they can go it alone they are sadly mistaken.

Get the blue-states to seceded and we can crush them and their progressiveness for decades to come.

Signed,

A Proud New Mexican.

I would rather be part of the Second Vermont Republic than Sarah Palin and Bill Kristol's real 'murican government in 2012.

Ricky201
02-07-2010, 05:42 PM
If Texas had a leader like Medina, than count me in. However, if the leadership of Texas is run by people like Perry and KBH than forget about it.

I would personally like to see Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming secede together. I can dream can't I?