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BlackTerrel
02-03-2010, 02:04 PM
This stuff shouldn't surprise me... but it does.


A Queens teacher who collects a $100,000 salary for doing nothing spends time in a Department of Education "rubber room" working on his law practice and managing 12 real-estate properties worth an estimated $7.8 million, The Post found.

Alan Rosenfeld hasn't set foot in a classroom for nearly a decade since he was accused in 2001 of making lewd comments to junior-high girls and "staring at their butts," yet the department still pays him handsomely for sitting on his own butt seven hours a day.

In 2001, six eighth-graders at IS 347 in Queens accused Rosenfeld, a typing teacher who filled in for an absent dean, of making comments like "You have a sexy body," asking one whether she had a boyfriend and making others feel uncomfortable with creepy leers.

Because the Department of Education could not produce all the students as witnesses, he was found guilty in only one case. A girl testified that Rosenfeld stopped at her locker, where she was standing with a friend, and "said I love him because I talk to him so much."

A DOE hearing officer gave him a slap on the wrist -- a week off without pay -- for "conduct unbecoming a teacher." He was cleared to return to teaching.

Instead, Schools Chancellor Joel Klein has kept the scruffy 64-year-old in a Brooklyn rubber room, deeming him too dangerous to be near kids, officials said.

The DOE can't fire him.

"We have to abide by the union contract," spokeswoman Ann Forte said.

So Rosenfeld simply collects his $100,049 salary -- top scale for teachers -- plus full health benefits and the promise of a fat pension, about $82,000 a year if he were to retire today.

His pension will grow by $1,700 each year he remains. He could have retired at age 62, but he stays.

He has also accumulated about 435 unused sick days -- and will get paid for half of them when he retires.

With city teachers trying to negotiate a 4 percent pay hike, Rosenfeld stands to get the raise.

All this largesse comes as Mayor Bloomberg threatens to cut 2,500 teachers to help close a $4 billion budget gap.

Meanwhile, the multimillionaire Rosenfeld lords over the rubber room, where he is the oldest and most veteran of 100 teachers.

Creepy picture at link:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/school_creep_bQL5kouK80obW5MhZRyq7J/0

Elwar
02-03-2010, 02:30 PM
They should at least put him to work for the TSA where he can look at Scanner Porn (http://www.scannerporn.com) all day long.

CountryboyRonPaul
02-03-2010, 02:40 PM
He looks like uncle fester

dannno
02-03-2010, 02:41 PM
Pedophiles are attracted to children, not adolescents, fyi.

Not condoning anything here, still messed up.

Kylie
02-03-2010, 02:43 PM
I thought you were speaking of my town when I clicked this thread.

We have some heavy shit going on with 5 employees of the school district here. The viceprincipal of the high school was just demoted last night.....to a teacher. Nice, huh?

But they are starting proceedings to remove him as a teacher too, so we will see.

The others have been fired or cleared, I guess. I know that we are moving when we can.

BlackTerrel
02-03-2010, 03:44 PM
I thought you were speaking of my town when I clicked this thread.

We have some heavy shit going on with 5 employees of the school district here. The viceprincipal of the high school was just demoted last night.....to a teacher. Nice, huh?

But they are starting proceedings to remove him as a teacher too, so we will see.

The others have been fired or cleared, I guess. I know that we are moving when we can.

The sad thing is this isn't that rare. This guy just happened to be written about in the New York Post. There are many many just like him - all paid for by the good ole taxpayers.

t0rnado
02-03-2010, 03:51 PM
I went to a town hall meeting back in August and saw a public school teacher arguing with some guy. The guy simply called him a "pension sucker". That is exactly what these parasites, who claim to be public servants, are.

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-03-2010, 03:57 PM
Pedophiles are attracted to children, not adolescents, fyi.

Yep. This man is technically what is being called an 'hebephile', which (naturally) some jackholes want to have classified as a mental disorder. Never mind that millions of years of human evolutionary biology has patterned us to be attracted to find mates that are the most capable of bearing our children. Nope, 125 years of society is supposed to wipe out that 'evil' tendency in humans. :rolleyes:

werdd
02-03-2010, 04:06 PM
What if this was his plan all along? He might of known the union could never fire him. (the guy reportedly manages a law practice on the side)

So all it takes is comprimising your morals for a few days hit on a few highschool hotties and collect your paycheck while doing jack shit. Brilliant.

On a side note, it is rediculous that anyone would be paid 6 figures to teach typing.

lester1/2jr
02-03-2010, 04:09 PM
the new york public school system is INSANE. this guy is one of many who get paid to sit on their ass and do nothing because the union is so strong it's like literally impossible for them to get fired.

MelissaWV
02-03-2010, 04:15 PM
Well, I'm bothered the guy is kept on pay but isn't teaching, but I wonder why so many folks are leaping on the "he's a creep" bandwagon. Is it simply because he looks creepy? It seems like the only witness that came forward was someone who, in open company, was teased and told they (must) love him because they talk to him so much. It's pretty sick to lump this in with teachers who use their influence as an authority figure to coerce youngsters into sex.

What he said was inappropriate, and I agree with putting the guy on leave (and including the incident in any record that could be seen by future employers). I don't agree with paying him while he's on leave. That's just moronic.

Cowlesy
02-03-2010, 04:39 PM
Guy has real estate of $7.8M and collecting $100k from the taxpayers for nothing.

Just another day in NYC.

Reason
02-03-2010, 04:42 PM
Is there a creepy visual appearance handbook for pedophiles?

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/01/31/news/photos_stories/cropped/005_alan_rosenfeld--300x300.jpg

SelfTaught
02-03-2010, 05:06 PM
John Stossel talks about the molester teachers kept in rubber rooms in his speeches. Apparently, it's not all that rare in NY.

But hey, kids are growing up faster these days, can you blame him?

J/K ;)

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-03-2010, 05:34 PM
John Stossel talks about the molester teachers kept in rubber rooms in his speeches. Apparently, it's not all that rare in NY.

But hey, kids are growing up faster these days, can you blame him?

J/K ;)

Well, there is the fact that there is a disconnect when you call a 40 yr old man who has consensual sex with a post-pubescent teenager a 'molester'. Someone who has undergone puberty is no longer a child. We may not agree with it, but biological science, in this case, doesn't lie. It wasn't consensual, then its rape. The simple fact is that our society keeps inventing new ways to declare someone or something illegal that was perfectly legal when our country was founded (barring Slavery, I don't see that as an improvement).

SelfTaught
02-03-2010, 06:08 PM
Well, there is the fact that there is a disconnect when you call a 40 yr old man who has consensual sex with a post-pubescent teenager a 'molester'. Someone who has undergone puberty is no longer a child. We may not agree with it, but biological science, in this case, doesn't lie. It wasn't consensual, then its rape. The simple fact is that our society keeps inventing new ways to declare someone or something illegal that was perfectly legal when our country was founded (barring Slavery, I don't see that as an improvement).

Well, I was a late bloomer. So if some female teacher had sex with me at age 14, I would technically still have been a child, because I hit puberty late. I've known women that had children with men 20+ years older when they were about 15. No one complains about that. Plus this teacher didn't really do anything with the kids. Make lewd comments, get paid 100,000 a year to do nothing. Matter of fact, I need a job..................maybe I'll move to NY and teach. I do have a degree. (evil laugh) heh eh eh eh eh.

MelissaWV
02-03-2010, 06:13 PM
Well, I was a late bloomer. So if some female teacher had sex with me at age 14, I would technically still have been a child, because I hit puberty late. I've known women that had children with men 20+ years older when they were about 15. No one complains about that. Plus this teacher didn't really do anything with the kids. Make lewd comments, get paid 100,000 a year to do nothing. Matter of fact, I need a job..................maybe I'll move to NY and teach. I do have a degree. (evil laugh) heh eh eh eh eh.

Awesome. Someone else saw this, too? I thought people were too busy grabbing forks and torches! Yeah... a couple of girls had specific quotes, only one testified, and the other allegations were that "he made girls uncomfortable by looking at them." Really? Now looking creepy is a crime. The fact this escaped so many in this thread is really, really under my skin.

BlackTerrel
02-03-2010, 06:37 PM
Well, I'm bothered the guy is kept on pay but isn't teaching, but I wonder why so many folks are leaping on the "he's a creep" bandwagon. Is it simply because he looks creepy? It seems like the only witness that came forward was someone who, in open company, was teased and told they (must) love him because they talk to him so much. It's pretty sick to lump this in with teachers who use their influence as an authority figure to coerce youngsters into sex.

What he said was inappropriate, and I agree with putting the guy on leave (and including the incident in any record that could be seen by future employers). I don't agree with paying him while he's on leave. That's just moronic.

I don't know all the details but it's clear that someone made the decision that he is not fit to be around kids. When your job requires you to be around kids and you aren't fit to be around kids then you should be fired.

Kind of like if a mechanic was deemed not fit to be around cars he would be fired. The difference is being a mechanic is a business, they aren't funded by taxpayers.

Since teachers are funded by taxpayers - no one seems to give a crap.

SelfTaught
02-03-2010, 06:38 PM
Awesome. Someone else saw this, too? I thought people were too busy grabbing forks and torches! Yeah... a couple of girls had specific quotes, only one testified, and the other allegations were that "he made girls uncomfortable by looking at them." Really? Now looking creepy is a crime. The fact this escaped so many in this thread is really, really under my skin.

And if a teacher looks creepy, the kids might make fun of him, call him a pedophile, and if he flunks them or pisses them off, they tell the principle and say he touched them. Kids are fuckin mischievious.

About 5 years back, my coworker told me that he previously worked as a teacher in both high school and grammar school. He explained that he worked as a high school teacher first, then switched to grammar school because the kids were making all sorts of allegations that were completely false. The grammar school kids aren't smart or clever enough to do that. So he felt much safer teaching the younger ones.

Bruno
02-03-2010, 06:43 PM
Either he is safe to reenter the classroom, or he is not. Fire him or let him back in to teach. But don't spend the taxpayer's money to have him sit on his ass and run his business out of a school room.

MelissaWV
02-03-2010, 07:00 PM
Either he is safe to reenter the classroom, or he is not. Fire him or let him back in to teach. But don't spend the taxpayer's money to have him sit on his ass and run his business out of a school room.

Yep.

Promontorium
02-03-2010, 08:02 PM
Either he is safe to reenter the classroom, or he is not. Fire him or let him back in to teach. But don't spend the taxpayer's money to have him sit on his ass and run his business out of a school room.

This should have been the only point, and the only issue, every second and every minute, and every day since 2001. Now in 2010, charges should be brought up against everyone who works above him.

The fact that he's not alone is just disgusting. He's chumped the taxpayers long enough. Fire him, throw his bosses in jail under "fraud, waste, and abuse" and then start getting into those other teachers in the "rubber room".

I can understand a legal hold puttting a teacher on standby for a few months, maybe a semester or a school year, but to intentionally put him away forever is absolutely criminal.

dannno
02-03-2010, 08:04 PM
I can understand a legal hold puttting a teacher on standby for a few months, maybe a semester or a school year, but to intentionally put him away forever is absolutely criminal.

The problem is that his superiors are blocked from firing him by the Unions.

I am all for people unionizing voluntarily, but when government decided to grow immensely, unions got in on the deal and now most government work is done through unions and unions have gained ridiculous amounts of control over our political system.

BlackTerrel
02-03-2010, 08:24 PM
This should have been the only point, and the only issue, every second and every minute, and every day since 2001. Now in 2010, charges should be brought up against everyone who works above him.

The fact that he's not alone is just disgusting. He's chumped the taxpayers long enough. Fire him, throw his bosses in jail under "fraud, waste, and abuse" and then start getting into those other teachers in the "rubber room".

I can understand a legal hold puttting a teacher on standby for a few months, maybe a semester or a school year, but to intentionally put him away forever is absolutely criminal.

You pretty much nailed it IMO.