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Matt Collins
02-02-2010, 05:56 PM
One man's opinion:

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-voices/post-politics-tea-partiers-should-reject-corporate-personhood



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FrankRep
02-02-2010, 06:01 PM
The Supreme Court decision to strike down a key part of the McCain-Feingold law in the case of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission promises to unleash the electoral fury of America's small businesses and citizens groups, so the New York Times and all of the official left is naturally squealing like a stuck pig. by Thomas R. Eddlem

The Coming Small Business Revolution on Politics after Citizens United v. FEC (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/2808-the-coming-small-business-revolution-on-politics-after-citizens-united-v-fec)

Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American
Saturday, 23 January 2010



Ron Paul on the McCain-Feingold ( Campaign Reform Act )
"Campaign Finance Reform" Muzzles Political Dissent

Texas Straight Talk
December 22, 2003

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=227633

dannno
02-02-2010, 06:08 PM
I like Ron Paul's stance, graciously accept the money, don't return any favors.

FrankRep
02-02-2010, 06:16 PM
One man's opinion:

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-voices/post-politics-tea-partiers-should-reject-corporate-personhood


Where exactly in the Constitution does it say corporations have rights? Corporate personhood may be long-standing legal precedent, but that doesn’t make it constitutional or righteous. The court decision that is credited with establishing corporate personhood doesn’t even make the concept explicit.

Such a silly argument. Corporations shouldn't be allowed to donate money to a campaign because they're an "artificial person?" Corporation should be allowed to donate money to whoever or whatever they want especially if there's legislation that personally effects them like Cap and Trade. You shouldn't need to be a "Natural Person" to donate money.

dannno
02-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Such a silly argument. Corporations shouldn't be allowed to donate money to a campaign because they're an "artificial person?" Corporation should be allowed to donate money to whoever or whatever they want especially if there's legislation that personally effects them like Cap and Trade. You shouldn't need to be a "Natural Person" to donate money.

IF corporations are receiving special benefits from the government because of a made-up status, then they are being subsidized by the government and therefore the argument could be made that it is like taking government money.. which Ron Paul does not do... But it's a gray area since they are technically private organizations..

ghengis86
02-02-2010, 06:23 PM
do you then think the police should be able to barge into any company and go through financial records, personnel files, etc., all without a warrant?

FrankRep
02-02-2010, 06:25 PM
IF corporations are receiving special benefits from the government because of a made-up status, then they are being subsidized by the government and therefore the argument could be made that it is like taking government money.. which Ron Paul does not do... But it's a gray area since they are technically private organizations..
That's a problem with the government being too powerful, not the corporations giving money. Before the corporations were being punished because government had too much power.

ghengis86
02-02-2010, 06:25 PM
I like Ron Paul's stance, graciously accept the money, don't return any favors.

agreed.

if everyone did this, pretty soon there'd be no corporations donating to anybody!

but there a plenty of politi-hos who will do their bidding

dannno
02-02-2010, 06:28 PM
That's a problem with the government being too powerful, not the corporations giving money. Before the corporations were being punished because government had too much power.

Well ya, that's why in principle I agree with the SC decision, I just wish it had been made AFTER we fixed all the other crap wrong with our system rather than first.. cause i imagine it's going to be a bit of a road block to getting the other crap fixed..

FrankRep
02-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Well ya, that's why in principle I agree with the SC decision, I just wish it had been made AFTER we fixed all the other crap wrong with our system rather than first.. cause i imagine it's going to be a bit of a road block to getting the other crap fixed..
Now the small businesses have a voice in politics, ya know, the Capitalists. They can help fight the Socialism and Corporatism in the government.

Matt Collins
02-07-2010, 11:45 AM
I tend to take Judge Napolitano's line on it - the courts merely recognized this legislation as unconstitutional.

johnrocks
02-07-2010, 11:50 AM
I like Ron Paul's stance, graciously accept the money, don't return any favors.

My thoughts exactly! If they support the message then great but don't ever compromise principles to take the money.