Sarah Palin endorses Rand Paul

[Jeremy]

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses/

[Chester Copperpot]

Looks like Dr. Kissinger will be making an angry phone call to sarah.... no more CFR invites for her.

[rancher89]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=229217

[Jeremy]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=229217

I know, some people don't read that forum though.

[Malachi]

I think this is great news!

I see tons of Palin bumper stickers in Kentucky, a lot more than Ron or Rand Paul stickers.

This endorsement will help with the social conservative vote in the KY closed primary, big time!

[rancher89]

I'm not going to belabor my point in the other thread, but those that support and are celebrating this endorsement have the right to do so and I support your right to the utmost. :)

I'll just sit over here and wait for the next act in the play. Sorry, I just think it isn't a good idea to have neocons, and less than intellegent ones at that (Palin = puppet), endorse "our" Liberty candidates. There will be a price to pay.

But go ahead and celebrate and have a good time! I'm jealous of your good mood.... :)

[lynnf]

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses/


well, that's good news... I think. I hope it'll help Rand, but seriously

she endorses Rand and also Rick Perry of Texas, a closet neocon?

doesn't connect very well.


lynn

[MRoCkEd]

She could be endorsing people she thinks will win hoping they return the favor when she runs for POTUS.

[Aratus]

IT IS GREAT NEWs! THERE ARE TIMEs WHEN SARAH PALIN HAS BOLDLY TAKEN STANCES LIKE
SEN. BARRY GOLDWATER, AND YES... SCOTT BROWN's WIN OVER MARTHA COAKLEY HAS GIVEN
THE G.O.P A NEW LIFE EVEN THOUGH LIKE Ms. MARTHA COAKLEY, SCOTT BROWN IS LESS OF
A CIVIL LIBERTARIAN AT TIMES THAN WAS SENATOR TEDDY KENNEDY IN HIS MERRIE HEYDAY!!!

[Malachi]

but those that support and are celebrating this endorsement have the right to do so and I support your right to the utmost. :)



But go ahead and celebrate and have a good time! I'm jealous of your good mood.... :)

Thanks!
http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2007/11/20071112_FlushUPSET.jpg

YES!

Now, they should get Huckster to endorse him.

[rancher89]

Awww, you left out the good part when you quoted me...!:p

[muzzled dogg]

Now, they should get Huckster to endorse him.

:rolleyes:

[reduen]

You all may be happy but I see this as a very sad day for liberty..... (A sad day indeed...) :(

[BlackTerrel]

This is great... don't want to jinx it... but things are looking really good for his campaign right now.

[BlackTerrel]

You all may be happy but I see this as a very sad day for liberty..... (A sad day indeed...) :(

How is a boost to Rand's campaign a sad day for liberty?

[Uriel999]

LOL, if anybody thinks this is a bad thing...just at least think of the face Trey Grayson had when he found out Palin indorsed Rand Paul. As to the comment about Palin thinking Rand would aprove of her when she runs for president. I think she knows he won't because his dad is going to be running in 2012! (I hope)

[catdd]

It's a good thing that this will probably give Rand the victory, but it probably brings SP one step closer in her effort to merge the T Party and GOP.

[Matt Collins]

LOL, if anybody thinks this is a bad thing...just at least think of the face Trey Grayson had when he found out Palin indorsed Rand Paul. http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/Grey%20Trayson/crybaby.jpg

[KAYA]

You all may be happy but I see this as a very sad day for liberty..... (A sad day indeed...) :(

Dude give me a break. Would you rather have Palin endorse Grayson and watch his poll numbers and fund raising go up? Whatever you think of Palin, her endorsement will help Paul's campaign, and help elect the most pro-liberty candidate to the US Senate since Barry Goldwater.

[Uriel999]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/Grey%20Trayson/crybaby.jpg

lol and just recently Grayson was calling the Paul's crazy. Whose crazy now Trey!? This is a victory for us. Sure be weary, but don't be so damned pessimistic.

[angelatc]

GOP12 : http://www.gop12.com/2010/02/palin-backs-rand-paul.html
Politico: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0210/Palin_for_Paul.html?showall
Race For 2012: http://race42008.com/2010/02/01/palin-endorses-rand-paul-for-senate/
Political Lore: http://www.politicallore.com/featured/rand-paul-snags-sarah-palin-endorsement/1643
Talking Points Memo: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses-rand-paul-in-kentucky-senate-race.php
Real Clear Politics: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/2010/02/paul_announces_palin_endorseme.html

[YumYum]

On the 30th I predicted:


"Prediction: Beck and possibly Palin will endorse Campaign for Liberty, Rand, and possibly Schiff."

Let's see if Beck is next. If so, the Beckers will take over. What will that mean for those of us who started at the grassroots level? Will we be pushed aside for the Beckers and the Palin crowd?

[reduen]

How is a boost to Rand's campaign a sad day for liberty?

Think divide and conquer my friend... Anyone who has taken the time to take an objective look at the political figure that is Sarah Palin, knows that she is just another typical politician and that she is in it for the money and power. (Very unlike our liberty candidates..) To be associated with Sarah Palin is really political suicide and i believe that you will see this come to pass before 2012.

Ran Paul already had this race in the bag with our endorsement, (we the people) this news can only serve the purpose of dividing the liberty movement... I really hope that I am wrong here but you just watch and see....

[reduen]

Sadly it will come. Just a matter of time now...


On the 30th I predicted:


"Prediction: Beck and possibly Palin will endorse Campaign for Liberty, Rand, and possibly Schiff."

Let's see if Beck is next. If so, the Beckers will take over. What will that mean for those of us who started at the grassroots level? Will we be pushed aside for the Beckers and the Palin crowd?

[low preference guy]

I am gradually starting to believe it. I just checked the date and it's not April 1. Can't stop smiling.

EDIT: After a few minutes, my stomach feels sick. Hopefully Rand is skillful enough to turn this into something positive with negligible downside.

[Romulus]

It would be a sad day if Rand endorsed Palin. But this is a win against Trey.
Lets not let it divide us..

[reduen]

Yes, I would rather that this would have happened. Palin could have endorsed Grayson and Paul still would have won... Ye of little faith...


Dude give me a break. Would you rather have Palin endorse Grayson and watch his poll numbers and fund raising go up? Whatever you think of Palin, her endorsement will help Paul's campaign, and help elect the most pro-liberty candidate to the US Senate since Barry Goldwater.

[jmdrake]

She could be endorsing people she thinks will win hoping they return the favor when she runs for POTUS.

^^^^^^
Winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even if Rand doesn't endorse her (and if Ron runs obviously he won't), there will be enormous pressure to keep us "rabble rousing Paulists" in line. (Not that it will do any good).

[Wineman77]

On the 30th I predicted:


"Prediction: Beck and possibly Palin will endorse Campaign for Liberty, Rand, and possibly Schiff."

Let's see if Beck is next. If so, the Beckers will take over. What will that mean for those of us who started at the grassroots level? Will we be pushed aside for the Beckers and the Palin crowd?

I don't know if Beck gives official endorsements, but he has had Rand on several times. He has practically gushed over Rand every time.

[angelatc]

Thanks!
http://blog.mlive.com/wsnow/2007/11/20071112_FlushUPSET.jpg

YES!

Now, they should get Huckster to endorse him.

Heh. Do you think that Huck has forgotten that "fascist" comment Ron Paul made yet? :)

[reduen]

"Originally Posted by LittleLightShining
It's not about politics. It's about principle."

+1776

[angelatc]

I am gradually starting to believe it. I just checked the date and it's not April 4. Can't stop smiling.

April 4th?

[rancher89]

"originally posted by littlelightshining
it's not about politics. It's about principle."

+1776

+2010

[jmdrake]

Thanks!

YES!

Now, they should get Huckster to endorse him.

:rolleyes:

I'm curious. While I'm no Huck fan, why would a Huck endorsement be any worse than a Palin endorsement. He at least agreed with Ron Paul on the Bush bailout.

http://jdmiller82.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/24/1906909-huckabee-on-the-700b-bailout

Also if Huck endorsed ran and he and Palin both ran in 2010 (which is likely in my book) the pressure on Rand for a reciprocal endorsement for either of them would dissipate. (At least until one dropped out and endorsed the other).

[YumYum]

It would be a sad day if Rand endorsed Palin. But this is a win against Trey.
Lets not let it divide us..

I'm not so much worried about we being divided as being pushed aside. We are a small group compared to the Beckers and the Palin crowd. Another thing to consider is the attack that was made on National may have pushed them over the edge to say to us "Fuck You!" They could replace us overnight with Palin and Beck's people.

I hate to use this as an example, but it fits. Hitler's Brown Shirt thugs were loyal to him to death. Their membership was 2 million strong. When he took power he had a dillemia. He had to decide to either stick with the Brown Shirts, who were not trained in military matters, and disban the German Army, thus running the risk of the German Army Generals taking back power from Hitler by a coup, or disban the Brown Shirts and stick with the Army. He decided to disban the Brown Shirts: he had the leaders of the Brown Shirts shot and ended the organization that gave their blood, sweat and tears to put him in power. I use this example because this is human nature where money and power are concerned. We are a small group and we are expendable. If the Beckers and Palin's people move in, we are finished. I hope I am wrong.

[Aratus]

would things look even better if trey grayson wisely pulls
out of the senate race before dr. rand paul debates him???
i predict that sec' trey grayson shall run for governor and may
eventually frank people with unwanted mail from the KY governor's
mansion!!! homespun honest politics hath its own political franking logic...

[payme_rick]

If the Beckers and Palin's people move in, we are finished. I hope I am wrong.

I don't see how it screws with our views or their views... our views will stay the same, their views will stay the same minus the gradual progression toward liberty Beck has seemed to have since around '05 or so...

the name "libertarian"? maybe... depends... I don't think they can hijack the name "libertarian" as easily as they could, let's say the Tea Party movement (because that movement at it's starting point had a mixture: dem, repub, libertarian... dems could have hijacked that movement just as easily)...

I think the libertarian party is big enough with a big enough voice for it to say "uhm, no, these folks aren't libertarian"...

the funny thing I see with your observation is that a ton of people you would call "Beckers and Palins" have already moved in... the Palins moved in with Beckers and the Beckers moved in with liberty... it has already happened IMO... don't think there's a strategy to it, just think it's the evolution of minds (let's hope for that)..

but anyhoo:

WE will not be finished... WE will NEVER be finished...

[BlackTerrel]

Think divide and conquer my friend.

Only if we want to be idiots about it and make it divide us. Or we can say - it is nice to have her endorsement and move on and be done with it.

[JoshLowry]

Only if we want to be idiots about it and make it divide us. Or we can say - it is nice to have her endorsement and move on and be done with it.

+1

"Thanks for the endorsement Sarah.

Too bad you won't be getting mine."

:p

[Aratus]

if the RNC and the G.O.P thru its 527s and PACs
has done beaucoup de polling all over the place,
if they know that RAND is a shoe-in and about to
sweep even the Democrats, then if they hint this to
Ms. Sarah Palin, i can see how she could back him!

[BlackTerrel]

She could be endorsing people she thinks will win hoping they return the favor when she runs for POTUS.

Maybe. I can think of other scenarios too. But it's just speculation.

This isn't the Godfather. "I do you a favor and when the time comes you will do a favor for me" type deal.

Rand will endorse whoever he wants in 2012. It's nice to say thank you when someone endorses you but he doesn't owe her anything. Rand knows that, Palin knows that, and we should know that.

[YumYum]

Only if we want to be idiots about it and make it divide us. Or we can say - it is nice to have her endorsement and move on and be done with it.

I agree, but don't forget that Bill Kristol is somewhere in the mix.

[low preference guy]

April 4th?

Meant April 1.

[Romulus]

Lets put it this way.. Palin needs Rand. Not the other way around. It's all about her image of course.

[YumYum]

I don't see how it screws with our views or their views... our views will stay the same, their views will stay the same minus the gradual progression toward liberty Beck has seemed to have since around '05 or so...

the name "libertarian"? maybe... depends... I don't think they can hijack the name "libertarian" as easily as they could, let's say the Tea Party movement (because that movement at it's starting point had a mixture: dem, repub, libertarian... dems could have hijacked that movement just as easily)...

I think the libertarian party is big enough with a big enough voice for it to say "uhm, no, these folks aren't libertarian"...

the funny thing I see with your observation is that a ton of people you would call "Beckers and Palins" have already moved in... the Palins moved in with Beckers and the Beckers moved in with liberty... it has already happened IMO... don't think there's a strategy to it, just think it's the evolution of minds (let's hope for that)..

but anyhoo:

WE will not be finished... WE will NEVER be finished...

I like your analogy. Let's hope this is a positive that turns into a positive.

[BenIsForRon]

This is good for Rand, especially in the primary. Hopefully he will be able to distance himself in the general though, because he won't need any big Republican endorsements in November.

[reduen]

For those who may have missed this....:)

I guess it was only a matter of time before Sarah Palin showed where her allegiance really lies. I had been suspicious of her every since she came into the national picture as a running mate for arguably the most liberal "Republican" in the last presidential race. (John McCain)

For those of you who do not know yet, Sarah Palin has done anything but "gone rogue" I am afraid that she is/was just another attempt to garner the support of our current patriot movement by the wealthy elite and their main stream media tool. I wonder if we will ever finally realize that anybody the main stream media spends so much time on is really just more bad news for us and our country.... Just like in our Congress, it is all a circus show where the politicians pretend to be on different sides but secretly (well, not so secretly any more really) they all want to lead us down the path to fascism/socialism, making their real deals behind closed doors.

Is Sarah Palin a "Tea Partier"or is she just another attempt by the current Rino's and Neocon's to keep us under control? Is she really just folksy and down to earth or have we been duped again, kind of like with the not so brilliant Jr. Bush? As I understand it, we patriots are a conservative movement who would like to bring our government back to within it's Constitutional bounds and restore our Republic back to what our founders intended. (The key word being conservative here..) Having said this, anyone who is running mate on a ticket with John McCain must be suspect to begin with. We all know that John McCain is most certainly liberal when it comes to big government. He is liberal on the topic of amnesty where illegal aliens are concerned. He is Liberal with a capital L where both abortion and same sex marriage is concerned. Really about the only thing that McCain does not appear to be liberal on is our current foreign policy and on that topic he is most certainly a Neocon. To make things worse, for those of us who believe that there is a concerted effort by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Bilderberg group, etc.. to destroy the sovereignty of our country and set up a world government, John McCain is a member of the afore mentioned CFR. (Link to current member list below...) The question is, why would a "Tea Party Patriot" ever support a guy like this? The answer is, we do not support this guy. He is the prime example of what is wrong with this country and what we are working so hard to change.

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion...FRMembers.html

Sarah Palin however, not only ran for vice president with Mr. McCain but has also donated $5,000 to him through her SarahPAC so far and has reported that she will campaign for him starting in March. (Proof Below..) He is one of only two people that she has currently donated to so far. Why is this "Conservative Tea partier" supporting a Liberal like CFR member John McCain?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...cain-in-march/

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacg...588&cycle=2010

All that information does it for me where Palin is concerned but if you need more to convince you, there is more indeed. If you watched any of Sarah Palins interview during her vice presidential campaign, you know that she was for the Bush Bailouts and as for the bridge to nowhere, "thanks but no thanks" meant she was for the bridge until it became politically unpopular and then she was against it. (She actually kept the money by the way..) Sounds like a typical politician to me. (Videos below.)


YouTube - Sarah Palin Talks Bailout Proposal





YouTube - Sarah Palin: Maverick to Nowhere




Another piece to this puzzle fell into place when we found out that Mrs. Palin is now set to support Gov Rick Perry of Texas over our fellow Tea Partier Debra Medina in their upcoming elections for Texas governor. In case you were not aware of it, Perry is a major advocate for the NAFTA Super Highway/Trans-Texas Corridor being pushed by the CFR/Bilderberg group as reported below. (This is the same guy that Glen Beck has been promoting recently..) Yes, it appears that the wealthy elite and the current Republican establishment Rino's are up to the same no good as always by trying to shove Mrs. Palin down our throats. It appears that they are giving us nothing more than another "wolf in sheeps clothing" here. Good thing we true patriots know that our Lord warned us about those.

http://www.rickperry.org/palin-endorses-perry

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/...globalist.html

http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo...erberg_ttc.htm

I am told that Sarah Palin will come to Arkansas some time in February to raise money for the state GOP. My opinion, don't waste your money folks. If we fail to gain major influence over the state GOP like we are doing here locally, your money will only be going toward the very liberalism, fascism, socialism etc.. that we are currently fighting against.

May God bless you all and give you the strength to stay resolute toward our common cause,

Chris Romero

[angelatc]

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2010/02/governor-palin-endorses-rand-paul.html


Rand Paul has solid conservative positions on the major issues. Go here to read more.

The Other McCain: http://theothermccain.com/2010/02/01/you-betcha-palin-endorses-rand-paul-in-kentucky-gop-senate-primary/comment-page-1/#comment-2519

Maybe she did this just to make Allahpundit’s head explode:

[QueenB4Liberty]

It's good for Rand! Like someone else said, Palin needs Rand, not the other way around.

[Flash]

This is good for Rand, especially in the primary. Hopefully he will be able to distance himself in the general though, because he won't need any big Republican endorsements in November.

He won't have to for a state like Kentucky. This is a state that went for Mccain-Palin in 08.

[AlterEgo]

I hate to use this as an example, but it fits. Hitler's Brown Shirt thugs were loyal to him to death. Their membership was 2 million strong. When he took power he had a dillemia. He had to decide to either stick with the Brown Shirts, who were not trained in military matters, and disban the German Army, thus running the risk of the German Army Generals taking back power from Hitler by a coup, or disban the Brown Shirts and stick with the Army. He decided to disban the Brown Shirts: he had the leaders of the Brown Shirts shot and ended the organization that gave their blood, sweat and tears to put him in power. I use this example because this is human nature where money and power are concerned. We are a small group and we are expendable. If the Beckers and Palin's people move in, we are finished. I hope I am wrong.

The Paul family are much more principled than Hitler obviously :rolleyes: And thanks for invoking Godwins law :mad:

[AlterEgo]

She could be endorsing people she thinks will win hoping they return the favor when she runs for POTUS.

Maybe but let's cross that bridge when we get there.



Think divide and conquer my friend... Anyone who has taken the time to take an objective look at the political figure that is Sarah Palin, knows that she is just another typical politician and that she is in it for the money and power. (Very unlike our liberty candidates..) To be associated with Sarah Palin is really political suicide and i believe that you will see this come to pass before 2012.

Ran Paul already had this race in the bag with our endorsement, (we the people) this news can only serve the purpose of dividing the liberty movement... I really hope that I am wrong here but you just watch and see....How do you know what's in Palin's heart? Maybe she is doing this for some sense of higher calling? Of course she isnt a liberty candidate, but she attracts people to Rand.



You all may be happy but I see this as a very sad day for liberty..... (A sad day indeed...) :(

Hopefully Rand is skillful enough to turn this into something positive with negligible downside.

Rand did not endorse Palin, it's the other way around. duh. This will only help Rand in the primary and thats all that matters. He wont have to worry about winning the general its a given. The real fight is in the primary.



Yes, I would rather that this would have happened. Palin could have endorsed Grayson and Paul still would have won... Ye of little faith...If she endorsed Grayson don't bet on it. If she had stayed neutral yes Rand would've won. You underestimate the Palinites following Palin off a cliff if she were to jump - its like lemmings.

[purplechoe]

Well, that's a shame... Palin might help him in the primary but will probably sink him like a rock in the general... He was ahead already anyway...

[sofia]

this is like when our "friend" Joe Stalin declared war upon Japan....AFTER the two A-bombs were already dropped

[purplechoe]

I hope this doesn't turn out to be... "It wasn't broke, but I tried to fix it anyway"...

[Flash]

I hope this doesn't turn out to be... "It wasn't broke, but I tried to fix it anyway"...

Nope. Kentucky went to Mccain-Palin in '08 so it won't hurt in the general. Or it shouldn't anyways.

I think this is the knock-out blow for Rand and he is going to get the Republican nomination. Thank god because Grayson probably has tricks up his sleeve.

Now I'm hoping he gets a C4G & SCF endorsement.

[TheTyke]

Everyone needs to heed Carol Paul's warning that we should "run as if we were 10% behind" because they will do terrible things. Saying "We don't need this endorsement" or "it will hurt us" displays a real lack of knowledge about Kentucky. Our state overwhelmingly rejected Obama and voted for McCain. The main reason so many justified voting McCain was because Palin was on the ticket!! She is well thought of - this is dynamite for the primary, and not bad for the general either. We can't take this election for granted, and things like this will make it a heck of a lot easier to win.

Again, remember what's at stake here: Seating the best senator in DECADES.

If Palin supported Ron's efforts to Audit the Fed, would you turn it down? Sure, you might justly question her motivations... but the bottom line is, in politics, you win by convincing people to support you. Not by saying "I don't like X and I don't want them supporting me..."

[Chieppa1]

So what is the problem with having all the Neo-Con Palin voters blindly voting for our candidates? The establishment tricks the "party-line" voters into supporting whoever they say. So what's the problem if we are influencing who the "party-line" candidates are?

[low preference guy]

I feel sorta like.... I... like... Palin.

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Ron Paul and Republican partisanship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YglP4clX0A)

[Dianne]

I hope somehow he can overcome that :((

[reduen]

One can tell what is in a persons heart by a persons actions. Moreover, if one cannot tell what is in a persons heart by their actions, what does it really matter what is in their heart?


Quote:
Originally Posted by reduen View Post
Think divide and conquer my friend... Anyone who has taken the time to take an objective look at the political figure that is Sarah Palin, knows that she is just another typical politician and that she is in it for the money and power. (Very unlike our liberty candidates..) To be associated with Sarah Palin is really political suicide and i believe that you will see this come to pass before 2012.

Ran Paul already had this race in the bag with our endorsement, (we the people) this news can only serve the purpose of dividing the liberty movement... I really hope that I am wrong here but you just watch and see....
How do you know what's in Palin's heart? Maybe she is doing this for some sense of higher calling? Of course she isnt a liberty candidate, but she attracts people to Rand.

[AuH20]

Never count out the GOP establishment. I don't care what the polls said. Grayson has a ton of cash sitting in the bank, and we needed the Palin endorsement. I expect Grayson to drop out because of this.

[KAYA]

Yes, I would rather that this would have happened. Palin could have endorsed Grayson and Paul still would have won... Ye of little faith...

Little faith? Because I'd rather have big names endorse Rand over Grayson?

[reduen]

My point was that Paul already had a double digit lead.. If all you want to do is argue, I really do not have the time....


Little faith? Because I'd rather have big names endorse Rand over Grayson?

[KAYA]

My point was that Paul already had a double digit lead.. If all you want to do is argue, I really do not have the time....

You're the one arguing. I'm simply saying I'd rather have Palin endorse Paul over Grayson. You are the one trying to take make hay with it.

[reduen]

I know... I know.... It is all me... Let's just see what happens from here.


You're the one arguing. I'm simply saying I'd rather have Palin endorse Paul over Grayson. You are the one trying to take make hay with it.

[The Patriot]

You're the one arguing. I'm simply saying I'd rather have Palin endorse Paul over Grayson. You are the one trying to take make hay with it.

That is one of the conundrums I have with this whole series of events. On one hand, if she endorses Grayson, it would expose in my opinion her Neo Conservative bona fides. An endorsement of Grayson would really unify and rally the liberty and patriot movement around Rand. However, it might make the everyday Conservative go over to Grayson because their idol supports him. However, on the other hand, this build up her faux credentials as an outsider, a patriot, a "tea party" conservative that supports the son of Ron Paul(whose campaign founded the tea parties). Rand can't up out and reject her endorsement, again, this would anger the everyday conservative who supports Rand. However, he indirectly gives her legitimacy by accepting her endorsement. For all that is said about Palin, her political handlers(ie. Kristol and Kissinger) are very smart and realized this is a win win for Palin either way she goes. I think they are propping her up as controlled opposition to run against Obama and are going to try and hijack the liberty movement and it's momentum along the way.

[purplechoe]

"Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support."

with that statement Rand has lost all credibility with me... talking about a stab in the back.

I've seen this shit coming a whle ago, glad I decided to jump ship early...

[UtahApocalypse]

"Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support."

with that statement Rand has lost all credibility with me... talking about a stab in the back.

I've seen this shit coming a whle ago, glad I decided to jump ship early...

While I agree with you about disliking Palin she is "a giant in American Politics" right now and this is an Epic endorsement. Accepting an endorsement is very different from offering one. I do not think that Rand Paul would endorse Palin without serious changes in her agenda.

[ARealConservative]

with that statement Rand has lost all credibility with me.

wgas

[axiomata]

"Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support."

with that statement Rand has lost all credibility with me... talking about a stab in the back.

I've seen this shit coming a whle ago, glad I decided to jump ship early...
Since there is no evidence of any tit for tat between Paul's campaign and Sarah Palin, this can be seen as nothing but good news. He does not owe her anything but the gratitude required of common courtesy.

[MRoCkEd]

"Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support."

with that statement Rand has lost all credibility with me... talking about a stab in the back.

I've seen this shit coming a whle ago, glad I decided to jump ship early...
I knew you wouldn't let us down. :p

[sofia]

a simple thank you would have sufficed...

but that bullshit about "a giant in American politics" makes me want to vomit. The last thing we need to do is to feed her false legend even more.

[SelfTaught]

"Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support."

with that statement Rand has lost all credibility with me... talking about a stab in the back.

I've seen this shit coming a whle ago, glad I decided to jump ship early...

You're ridiculous man.

Rand has NO CONTROL over who chooses to endorse him. Yeah Rand lost all credibility because someone endorsed him, and somehow HE'S AT FAULT? If a neocon endorsed Ron Paul during the presidential elections, your dumbass would say, "with that statement Ron has lost all credibility with me... talking about a stab in the back."

You've lost all credibility with me. Get your IQ above the retardation line.

[klamath]

Well, that's a shame... Palin might help him in the primary but will probably sink him like a rock in the general... He was ahead already anyway...

McCain/PALIN won KY with 58 percent of the vote in a huge democratic year. I don't think Palins endorcement will harm Rand with the KY democrats and independents.:rolleyes:

[Matt Collins]

but that bullshit about "a giant in American politics" makes me want to vomit.It's a true statement.

[purplechoe]

It's a true statement.

So is Nancy Pelosi... :rolleyes:

[SelfTaught]

It's a true statement.

Very true. To reject her endorsement is just asking for defeat. Whether or not the liberty movement likes her, many conservatives like her, and that's the reality of things. Can't change it overnight or even in a year. Gotta just roll with this one because to do otherwise would be much worse.

It's not so bad. Come on.....;)

[purplechoe]

Rand's #1 campaign issue seemed to be the bailouts. Now he has gonne over to the dark side and asked for an endorsement of an idiot that supported the bailouts!!! Randy???? What the f....?

HELOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[Meiun]

It's a good thing that this will probably give Rand the victory, but it probably brings SP one step closer in her effort to merge the T Party and GOP.

I think this comment NAILS the neocon agenda. She is being used by McCain and Co. to do this precise thing, IMO.

It can't hurt that we have more liberty-minded folks in congress, but I'm afraid that their loyalties will be called in to question at critical times and they'll fold into the hands of the neocons/progressives.

Yeah, it's just an endorsement, and not a series of co-campaign stops, so perhaps this will end at just here on happy terms, i.e. without any further attached strings.

[purplechoe]

Thanks Randy and C4L, instead of focusing our efforts on raising money for liberty candidates like Kokesh & Medina we have to waste our time on this bullshit... :mad:

[Matt Collins]

Rand's #1 campaign issue seemed to be the bailouts. Now he has gonne over to the dark side and asked for an endorsement of an idiot that supported the bailouts!!! Randy???? What the f....?Rand asked for an endorsement? Can you quote Rand asking for Palin's endorsement? :confused:



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[specsaregood]

Rand asked for an endorsement? Can you quote Rand asking for Palin's endorsement? :confused:
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Guess we'll find out tonight:
From:http://www.whas11.com/news/Sarah-Palin-endorsing-Rand-Pauls-campaign-83264227.html


Joe Arnold is talking to Rand Paul today and reports on the unusual way the endorsement was obtained tonight on WHAS11 News

[BenIsForRon]

I think this comment NAILS the neocon agenda. She is being used by McCain and Co. to do this precise thing, IMO.

It can't hurt that we have more liberty-minded folks in congress, but I'm afraid that their loyalties will be called in to question at critical times and they'll fold into the hands of the neocons/progressives.

I don't think any of the candidates we're discussing on this forum are at danger for folding into the neocon's agenda.

Rand will use Palin for his gain, not the other way around. An endorsement of Rand will not get Palin anymore credibility, she has her rabid fan base and that's where it ends.

And that rabid fan base is rather large, which is why this endorsement will be very helpful in the primary.

[purplechoe]

Rand asked for an endorsement? Can you quote Rand asking for Palin's endorsement? :confused:



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don't play dumb...

[BlackTerrel]

It can't hurt that we have more liberty-minded folks in congress, but I'm afraid that their loyalties will be called in to question at critical times and they'll fold into the hands of the neocons/progressives.

Based on what? I don't understand this logic - and I'm not just picking on you I've seen the same sentiments elsewhere here.

What do you think is going to happen? Rand will say:

1. "Sarah backed me so now I have to listen to whatever she says and vote however she wants me to and support whatever candidates she says".

2. "Sarah backed me. I appreciate her support, it helps, I thank her. And now I continue my life the same way it was yesterday".

Cause I'm pretty sure it's number 2. That's just etiquette. Someone supports you - you tell them thank you, you throw them a compliment and then you move on. That's it.

[Flash]

Funny the Neo-Con diedhard Palin supporters are throwing hissy fits on the blogosphere right now over this. Hahaha.

[SelfTaught]

I don't think any of the candidates we're discussing on this forum are at danger for folding into the neocon's agenda.

Rand will use Palin for his gain, not the other way around. An endorsement of Rand will not get Palin anymore credibility, she has her rabid fan base and that's where it ends.

And that rabid fan base is rather large, which is why this endorsement will be very helpful in the primary.

Precisely.

And let's stop thinking that all neo-cons are "controlled" by their "handlers". Why can't they just be neo-cons that actually believe neo-con type shit? They may be opposition, but that doesn't mean they're "controlled" opposition.

[SelfTaught]

That's just etiquette. Someone supports you - you tell them thank you, you throw them a compliment and then you move on. That's it.

Agreed. Damn, some people take things way too far, and out-there.

[jmdrake]

I feel sorta like.... I... like... Palin.

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Ron Paul and Republican partisanship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YglP4clX0A)

Is it possible that the same youtube clip can make you want to laugh, cheer and facepalm all the same time? :confused: :eek: I'm at a loss for words. She does give props to Paul. But the "party machinery on both sides of the party"? Either she got confused again, or this was some profound yet cryptic statement that we only have one party in this country. Somebody could get a degree in Palinism. If she ever became president stock in Comedy Central would shoot through the roof.

[Malachi]

Thanks Randy and C4L, instead of focusing our efforts on raising money for liberty candidates like Kokesh & Medina we have to waste our time on this bullshit... :mad:

Read the thread, post on it or not, and then spam or donate for/to any candidate you chose or not -- Free Country!

Stop Crying!

[HOLLYWOOD]

Palin endorses Rand Paul

Mon, 02/01/2010 - 5:59pm | posted by David Carlson (http://www.unitedliberty.org/users/davidcarlson)


Editor’s note: We posted about this (http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/4858-sarah-palin-to-endorse-rand-paul) last week, but has since become official (http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses/).
What could be a better followup to my previous post (http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/4878-rand-paul-has-kentucky-senate-election-in-the-bag) than scanning the front page of Politico and stumbling across this headline (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0210/Palin_for_Paul.html): Palin endorses Rand Paul
I checked Rand’s home page and found this (http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses/):

National political icon and conservative leader Sarah Palin has endorsed Dr. Rand Paul in his bid for United States Senate from Kentucky. The Paul campaign has received a generous donation from Governor Palin’s PAC.
Sarah Palin has clearly seen that Rand Paul supports smaller, constitutional government and is taking the fight to the career politicians and will shake up the tax and spend crowd in Washington D.C.
“Governor Palin is providing tremendous leadership as the Tea Party movement and constitutional conservatives strive to take our country back,” Rand said.
“Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support.”
“I’m trying to go to Washington to fight to lower taxes and spending, and for term limits and balanced budgets. I will go to protect the lives of our unborn children,” Rand said.
We know one thing: Rand has the Republican nomination in the bag and now its a matter of growing in his polling against the Democrat challengers.




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Rand Paul Has Kentucky Senate Election In The Bag

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Mon, 02/01/2010 - 4:24pm | posted by David Carlson (http://www.unitedliberty.org/users/davidcarlson)

Rand Paul (http://www.randpaul2010.com/) is the next Senator of Kentucky. The election is all but wrapped up.
Most people will immediately respond that it is way too early to make such a statement; how can we possibly know what will happen over the next nine to ten months? I will concede the point that we can never be sure how an election will turn out ten months before the vote, but all evidence points towards a Rand Paul win come November.
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1) Polling
Rand has seen meteoric rise in the polls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Kentucky,_2010) over the past five months. He went from losing 26-37 in August to establishment pick Trey Grayson (http://www.treygrayson.com/), to leading Grayson 44-25 in December. Also, while he was picking up this lead there was an increasing number of undecided voters from 17% in August to 32% in December. The momentum is clearly on Rand Paul’s side.
2) Campaign
From the beginning Rand has arguably run a stronger campaign. Despite never being elected to office in Kentucky, Paul had the advantage of being Congressman Ron Paul’s son. This allowed him to make his announcement on national television that he would be running for Senate. While Trey Grayson attacked this as an example of how Paul was an “outsider” to Kentucky, the famous comeback by Paul swung this war of words in his favor, “I’ve been a Kentuckian longer than Grayson’s been a Republican!”
3) Fundraising
After accusing Paul of being an outsider, Grayson made what some would call his fatal mistake in the campaign: host a $500 per plate fundraiser in Washington, D.C. where 17 of 23 Republican Senators in attendance voted for the bank bailout. Paul railed on the bank bailout from the beginning, and this fund raiser invigorated supporters of Paul who raised over $1 million in the third quarter, dwarfing Grayson’s $642,800.
4) Tea Party Candidate
The one major thing Rand Paul has done that has allowed him to surge in the Kentucky Senate Campaign is distinguish himself as a Tea Party Candidate. This goes back to Grayson’s “Bailout” fundraiser. At Fancy Farm, a major political event in Kentucky, Rand YouTube - Fancy Farm 2009 Rand Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjuNmvEUgk8). Between Rand’s public opposition to the bailout and Grayson’s support of bailout-voting Senators, Rand is clearly embodying the Tea Party image. Along with his fiscal conservatism and general belief in small government, Paul truly has become the “Tea Party” candidate in this Senate Race.

5) Kentucky Favors Republicans
Kentucky has two Republican Senators and overwhelmingly went for McCain in the 2008 election. 2010 will not be an easy year for Democrats, and Rand is polling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Kentucky,_2010) 14% above Daniel Mongiardo and 8% above Jack Conway. Though these are not “blow out” totals, he has consistently gained against these two candidates. Perhaps I am not giving them nearly enough credit, but both candidates will need to spend more money as the Democratic Primary is much closer with only recently (in the last poll) Conway passing Mongiardo. As I said, unless Democrats have a major turnaround before November, the “Tea Party” Republican candidate is all but certain to win the election.
If the Paul campaign continues to campaign as hard as they have the past six months and reinforce Paul’s conservative values, I think this campaign is all but decided.

[Anti Federalist]

Hell, it's worth it just because it must be making the idjits over at RedState, LGF and Shamity's board go fucking batshit.

:D

[Freedom 4 all]

It would be great if liberty candidates could win without the support of the neocon moron base but sadly there just aren't enough smart folk out there to win us elections. As this is a democracy, we unfortunately need the dumb people too; people who don't understand shit about economics or a sound social/foreign policy and vote based on who they find hot (Palin) who they want to hava a beer with (Bush) and whe they want to have as a pastor (Huck).

[Flash]

Hell, it's worth it just because it must be making the idjits over at RedState, LGF and Shamity's board go fucking batshit.

:D

I’d vote for the D before Rand Paul. And I wouldn’t feel bad about it at all. -- Redstate poster.

They reveal their true colors rather quickly. These are the same vermin that go around saying how important it is to 'stick behind the party.' And their only criticism of Rand Paul is, "hes a conspiracy theorist and far-leftist." Rofl.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Hell, it's worth it just because it must be making the idjits over at RedState, LGF and Shamity's board go fucking batshit.

:D


I have something from last week on FOX: IMUS in the Morning and guess who the guest was... SHAMITY.

The reason I hit the record button... was Sean Hammity said, "I'm Basically a Libertarian" to Don Imus.

I wish someone would of replied, "Shammity, you're basically a Liberal Fraud masquerading as NEOCON."

I'll have to YouTube it in the near future.

[Anti Federalist]

I’d vote for the D before Rand Paul. And I wouldn’t feel bad about it at all. -- Redstate poster. They reveal their true colors rather quickly. These are the same vermin that go around saying how important it is to 'stick behind the party.' And their only criticism of Rand Paul is, "hes a conspiracy theorist and far-leftist." Rofl.

What a bunch of assholes...LOL

[ARealConservative]

Thanks Randy and C4L, instead of focusing our efforts on raising money for liberty candidates like Kokesh & Medina we have to waste our time on this bullshit... :mad:

what's with the "our" nonsense?

[Matt Collins]

Hell, it's worth it just because it must be making the idjits over at RedState, LGF and Shamity's board go fucking batshit.Thanks for the reminder. I need to get over to Hannity's forum and stir the stuff on this issue. Haven't been there in a while :p

[Liberty Star]

I'm not going to belabor my point in the other thread, but those that support and are celebrating this endorsement have the right to do so and I support your right to the utmost. :)

I'll just sit over here and wait for the next act in the play. Sorry, I just think it isn't a good idea to have neocons, and less than intellegent ones at that (Palin = puppet), endorse "our" Liberty candidates. There will be a price to pay.

But go ahead and celebrate and have a good time! I'm jealous of your good mood.... :)

I'm hoping she is divorced from neocons completely now.

[Matt Collins]

Is it possible that the same youtube clip can make you want to laugh, cheer and facepalm all the same time? :confused: :eek: I'm at a loss for words.You just summed it up perfectly :D




Somebody could get a degree in Palinism. If she ever became president stock in Comedy Central would shoot through the roof.ha ha ha thanks for the belly laugh tonight John! I appreciate it... :cool:

[angelatc]

Thanks Randy and C4L, instead of focusing our efforts on raising money for liberty candidates like Kokesh & Medina we have to waste our time on this bullshit... :mad:

Actually, I think Adam probably reaped the financial benefits of the euphoria.

[Matt Collins]

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Rand Paul Has Kentucky Senate Election In The Bag

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This is not a good thing to promote. Many an ostrich has had it's butt kicked while it's head was in the sand.

[Matt Collins]

Lets see how this is being handled in Hannity land:


http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1820041





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[KAYA]

"Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support."

with that statement Rand has lost all credibility with me... talking about a stab in the back.

I've seen this shit coming a whle ago, glad I decided to jump ship early...

Good Lord...:rolleyes:

[KAYA]

double post

[KAYA]

Hell, it's worth it just because it must be making the idjits over at RedState, LGF and Shamity's board go fucking batshit.

:D

Red State officially endorsed Rand back in December.

[BlackTerrel]

Rand Paul is the next Senator of Kentucky. The election is all but wrapped up.
Most people will immediately respond that it is way too early to make such a statement; how can we possibly know what will happen over the next nine to ten months? I will concede the point that we can never be sure how an election will turn out ten months before the vote, but all evidence points towards a Rand Paul win come November.

I'm not a big fan of these sorts of articles. Yes he is in a good spot right now but it's never good to get too cocky. Partly because I'm superstitious and partly because I believe overconfidence can quickly lead to downfall. We see it in sports all the time.

[Flash]

Red State officially endorsed Rand back in December.

Their posters are rabidly anti-Paul. The Redstate 'blogs' they have on their site had a few recent Anti-Rand Paul articles right after the Palin endorsement. I registered an account there and tried to post some really good rebuttals but unfortunately my account wasn't old enough to be able to post I guess.

Basically a lot of them were saying they would vote for a Democrat over a Ron Paul Republican like Rand Paul or whoever. It is funny because these are the same die-hard lunatic Neo-Conservatives that always use the "stick behind the paty" line. In reality it means, "stick with the GOP until they nominate someone we hate."

[Reason]

YouTube - Sarah Palin Endorses Rand Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXytE_EbqjE)

[rancher89]

Actually, I think Adam probably reaped the financial benefits of the euphoria.

and Gunny....:)

[tonesforjonesbones]

maybe purplechloe will jump ship off this forum too...lol...I'm so tired of the naysayers..GO GO RAND PAUL RIGHTON TAKE ALL THE ENDORSEMENTS YOU CAN GET AND GO FOR THE win! tones

[AuH20]

I’d vote for the D before Rand Paul. And I wouldn’t feel bad about it at all. -- Redstate poster.

They reveal their true colors rather quickly. These are the same vermin that go around saying how important it is to 'stick behind the party.' And their only criticism of Rand Paul is, "hes a conspiracy theorist and far-leftist." Rofl.

They are a bunch of intellectually dishonest scumbags. If they alienate the 20% of paleos and libertarians that make up the party, they're screwed.

[AGRP]

I knew something was up when this happened. The establishment wouldn't endorse Rand unless Rand was making deals. That said, no one can get into Rands head. He's working a different strategy. He's Ron's son for Christ's sake.