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ch164708
02-01-2010, 09:39 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Palin Endorses Rand Paul CONFIRMED

David Adams, Rand Paul's campaign manager has confirmed this morning that SarahPAC has sent them financial support and authorized the release of that information as an endorsement of Rand Paul for the GOP candidate to replace retiring baseball hall of fame pitcher and two term incumbent Jim Bunning.



"This is a huge boost to the Paul campaign and will open the way for more endorsements to follow", said one local GOP insider.

from bluegrass bulletin

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 09:41 AM
Ok, can we shift our fundraising to people like Adam, RJ, Debra, Jake and Peter now?

erowe1
02-01-2010, 09:43 AM
Ok, can we shift our fundraising to people like Adam, RJ, Debra, Jake and Peter now?

You're waiting for someone here to give you permission to fund the candidates you want to fund?

RonPaulFanInGA
02-01-2010, 09:43 AM
Ok, can we shift our fundraising to people like Adam, RJ, Debra, Jake and Peter now?

You can if you want. Me, I like where Rand Paul's campaign is going: namely UP.

Mommy to melt down in 3...2....1....

ch164708
02-01-2010, 09:44 AM
they are going to literally freak out now.

You will see a full on blitz for Treyson. Either that, or you will see treyson be forced out, and the leadership back Rand.

Wither way, the General election will be expensive.

rancher89
02-01-2010, 09:46 AM
I wouldn't want her supporting MY campaign, if I had one.


But, I don't, and I know that KY politics are different than my local politics.


It does send a signal that Rand is doing a stellar job of polling well.

The Tea Party convention is coming up pretty soon in KY isn't it?

amisspelledword
02-01-2010, 09:48 AM
do you think Sarah Palin will personally say anything about Rand or do you think this is going to be it?

koob
02-01-2010, 09:48 AM
I'm no fan of Sarah, but I'll take the money where we can get it! Not to mention this is a MAJOR BLOW TO GRAYSON (which makes me giddy). The wind is blowing in the direction of the Tea Partiers and let Rand get carried away in it!

aclove
02-01-2010, 09:48 AM
Pat, the Tea Party convention is next door in Tennessee, but yeah, that's coming up.

rancher89
02-01-2010, 09:49 AM
Thanks, I'm still waking up and trying to orient myself--

ch164708
02-01-2010, 09:49 AM
If Sarah Palin shows up in Ky, he will destroy trayson.

UtahApocalypse
02-01-2010, 09:49 AM
SarahPAC not Sarah Palin. So what that means for KY im not sure. While the PAC is supported by Palin its still not an endorsement from herself (yet) It would be like saying Ron Paul made an endorsement when the C4L did.

http://www.bluegrassbulletin.com/2010/02/exclusive-palin-endorses-rand-paul-confirmed.html



David Adams, Rand Paul's campaign manager has confirmed this morning that SarahPAC has sent them financial support and authorized the release of that information as an endorsement of Rand Paul for the GOP candidate to replace retiring baseball hall of fame pitcher and two term incumbent Jim Bunning.

Cowlesy
02-01-2010, 09:50 AM
I'm no fan of Sarah, but I'll take the money where we can get it! Not to mention this is a MAJOR BLOW TO GRAYSON (which makes me giddy). The wind is blowing in the direction of the Tea Partiers and let Rand get carried away in it!

+1000

If Grayson is Glass Joe (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pqOBRLICPOk/Rv2O7R_K1JI/AAAAAAAABfY/gfN6Fj8Ds6I/s400/PunchOut_GlassJoeAbime.jpg) from Mike Tyson's Super Punchout, he just took an uppercut with this.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/50860569_b8583dae2d_o.jpg

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 09:50 AM
You're waiting for someone here to give you permission to fund the candidates you want to fund?

No. I would imagine the people who donated to Rand would be the types of people to donate to people like Jake, RJ, Adam, and Debra. I would also imagine that most of us are younger and as such don't have the same disposable income as people who are older. Therefore we prioritize who we give to. Since it is obvious Rand is going to win the Primary with no problems from here on out it would be better if we could now shift (in general numbers) our efforts to the aforementioned. For those who bemoan strategy, wouldn't this be a more realistic choice to get as many liberty candidates elected as possible?

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 09:51 AM
No. I would imagine the people who donated to Rand would be the types of people to donate to people like Jake, RJ, Adam, and Debra. I would also imagine that most of us are younger and as such don't have the same disposable income as people who are older. Therefore we prioritize who we give to. Since it is obvious Rand is going to win the Primary with no problems from here on out it would be better if we could now shift (in general numbers) our efforts to the aforementioned. For those who bemoan strategy, wouldn't this be a more realistic choice to get as many liberty candidates elected as possible?

Rand's election is far from a sure thing.

erowe1
02-01-2010, 09:52 AM
No. I would imagine the people who donated to Rand would be the types of people to donate to people like Jake, RJ, Adam, and Debra. I would also imagine that most of us are younger and as such don't have the same disposable income as people who are older. Therefore we prioritize who we give to. Since it is obvious Rand is going to win the Primary with no problems from here on out it would be better if we could now shift (in general numbers) our efforts to the aforementioned. For those who bemoan strategy, wouldn't this be a more realistic choice to get as many liberty candidates elected as possible?

But nobody here can decide how other people donate to campaigns "in general numbers". Each person just decides for him or herself.

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 09:52 AM
SarahPAC not Sarah Palin. So what that means for KY im not sure. While the PAC is supported by Palin its still not an endorsement from herself (yet) It would be like saying Ron Paul made an endorsement when the C4L did.

http://www.bluegrassbulletin.com/2010/02/exclusive-palin-endorses-rand-paul-confirmed.html

Ron Paul always releases his endorsements via his LibertyPAC I believe...

amisspelledword
02-01-2010, 09:54 AM
If Sarah Palin shows up in Ky, he will destroy trayson.

qft

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 09:56 AM
But nobody here can decide how other people donate to campaigns "in general numbers". Each person just decides for him or herself.

Way to point to the obvious, but missing the generality. I would hope people would see the huge discrepancy both in momentum, funds, motivation, endorsements, and other auxillary reasons that Rand is about a 95% favorite at this time with the Primary not being too far away. All points, point to easy victory. Now, on the other hand we have embattled candidates who need our funds, more than Rand. I would hope that this would be obvious. If you only want Rand elected, then only donate to Rand. If you want multiple liberty candidates get elected, then look at the races and see how far ahead Rand is and I would hope people would be using their limited funds to help out RJ, Jake, Debra, Adam, Pat Sellers, et. al.

I have donated to all of the above except Pat and I'm trying to pool more funds together. Our dollar can go much further helping these candidates out.

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 09:59 AM
Way to point to the obvious, but missing the generality. I would hope people would see the huge discrepancy both in momentum, funds, motivation, endorsements, and other auxillary reasons that Rand is about a 95% favorite at this time with the Primary not being too far away. All points, point to easy victory. Now, on the other hand we have embattled candidates who need our funds, more than Rand. I would hope that this would be obvious. If you only want Rand elected, then only donate to Rand. If you want multiple liberty candidates get elected, then look at the races and see how far ahead Rand is and I would hope people would be using their limited funds to help out RJ, Jake, Debra, Adam, Pat Sellers, et. al.

I have donated to all of the above except Pat and I'm trying to pool more funds together. Our dollar can go much further helping these candidates out.

Again, Paul's victory is far from a sure thing and encouraging people to act like it is will hurt his campaign.

dr. hfn
02-01-2010, 10:00 AM
wow

Andrew-Austin
02-01-2010, 10:00 AM
coooool........

The lone man running Trey Grayson's campaign is not pleased:

http://www.artfulgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/wow-jenkins.jpg

lol

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 10:01 AM
Again, Paul's victory is far from a sure thing and encouraging people to act like it is will hurt his campaign.

So you are telling me, unless Rand fundraises even more, that he won't win? How about we let SarahPAC fund him from here on out, and we use the off-setting funds to fund liberty candidates? I know, novelty idea..:rolleyes:

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 10:05 AM
So you are telling me, unless Rand fundraises even more, that he won't win? How about we let SarahPAC fund him from here on out, and we use the off-setting funds to fund liberty candidates? I know, novelty idea..:rolleyes:

Rand will need more cash, no doubt. If he doesn't get it will he be elected? Who knows? But assuming he's got the election tied up...well...you know what assuming does...

Encouraging people to abandon Rand and focus their attention on other candidates will only have a negative impact on his campaign.

pacelli
02-01-2010, 10:05 AM
Now Rand has the neocons paying him to win. Interesting development.

Thank goodness today is the KOKESH MONEYBOMB and tomorrow is the MEDINA MONEYBOMB!! No neocon PACs sponsoring those campaigns.

RonPaulFanInGA
02-01-2010, 10:06 AM
Oh the double whammy if Grayson follows this up by putting out some piss-poor fundraising numbers today.

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 10:07 AM
Now Rand has the neocons paying him to win. Interesting development.

Thank goodness today is the KOKESH MONEYBOMB and tomorrow is the MEDINA MONEYBOMB!! No neocon PACs sponsoring those campaigns.

A Palin endorsement would be a huge boost for Medina before the election.

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 10:08 AM
Rand will need more cash, no doubt. If he doesn't get it will he be elected? Who knows? But assuming he's got the election tied up...well...you know what assuming does...

Encouraging people to abandon Rand and focus their attention on other candidates will only have a negative impact on his campaign.

I don't know if you missed the part, but I specifically said Primary. We can get back to Rand in the General, but for now we have to get all of our liberty-candidates past the primary and Rand is about 98% confirmed to get the Primary at this point.

It would such a shame if RJ, Adam, Jake, or Pat didn't get past the primaries or were too ill-funded to do much in the General, because of irrational fears about Rand losing now.

pacelli
02-01-2010, 10:10 AM
A Palin endorsement would be a huge boost for Medina before the election.

No doubt, hopefully Rand will put in a good word for her campaign.

Malachi
02-01-2010, 10:12 AM
Ok, can we shift our fundraising to people like Adam, RJ, Debra, Jake and Peter now?

No one is stopping you.


Palin endorsement rocks!

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 10:14 AM
I don't know if you missed the part, but I specifically said Primary. We can get back to Rand in the General, but for now we have to get all of our liberty-candidates past the primary and Rand is about 98% confirmed to get the Primary at this point.

It would such a shame if RJ, Adam, Jake, or Pat didn't get past the primaries or were too ill-funded to do much in the General, because of irrational fears about Rand losing now.

Its irrational to assume he even has the primary sewn up before any votes are cast.

specsaregood
02-01-2010, 10:16 AM
No one is stopping you.
Palin endorsement rocks!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oG2ffHT1kXk/SObIrnd8jBI/AAAAAAAACNs/sBunnyOgrqk/s400/palin.jpg

angelatc
02-01-2010, 10:16 AM
You can if you want. Me, I like where Rand Paul's campaign is going: namely UP.

Mommy to melt down in 3...2....1....

What a drag it is getting old
"Kids are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day

"Things are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Cooking fresh food for a husband's just a drag
So she buys an instant cake and she burns her frozen steak
And goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And two help her on her way, get her through her busy day

Doctor please, some more of these
Outside the door, she took four more
What a drag it is getting old

TheSouth18
02-01-2010, 10:19 AM
This is great! Hopefully Rand will be able to move conservatives toward him and not the other way around! Lets try to get Huckabee to endorse now! The more people who endorse, the more people will begin to expect Republicans to run candidates like Rand!

phesoge
02-01-2010, 10:24 AM
Thhis is a good news because it should solidify support among social conservatives for Rand. Huckabee on the other hand I am not so sure about because he has some weird disgust for Libertarian economics. HE saiud the following Mike Huckabee: Faux-cons (false conservatives) include libertarians
I call the new breed of political animal, which carries an attitude of supreme superiority for its "purity," the "faux-cons." Their passion for their viewpoint goes beyond "loud and proud" and just substitutes volume for veracity. Faux-cons use dismissive language to accuse those who disagree as being anything from RINOs (Republicans In Name Only), socialists, big-government Republicans, or religious nuts. (They tarred me with nearly all of those labels). Once such dramatic lines of demarcation are drawn, an honest dialogue over the details pretty much disappears.

You can see the growing influence of the faux-cons in the 2008 election cycle from the so-called Ron Paul Revolution to the economics-only conservatism reflected by some of the supporters of Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani (even if not entirely by the candidates themselves).

Source: Do The Right Thing, by Mike Huckabee, p.106-110 Nov 18, 2008

TheSouth18
02-01-2010, 10:27 AM
Yeah, I was very disappointed about that part of his book as well. The wierd thing about it was that he did not tie the "libertarians" to Ron Paul, but rather to Mitt Romney which is kinda wierd. I sent and email inquiring about that and did not receive a reply. As far as I'm concerned, I'm with Huckabee, we certainly don't need any "Mitt Romney libertarians". lol

Plus, Huckbee needs to beef up his liberty creds a little. This would be a step in the right direction. :)

Matt Collins
02-01-2010, 10:32 AM
How about we let SarahPAC fund him from here on out, and we use the off-setting funds to fund liberty candidates? I know, novelty idea..:rolleyes:I believe a PAC can only give $4k to a campaign (I could be wrong though).

itshappening
02-01-2010, 10:36 AM
Matt, are you going to say hello to her? she is in your neck of the woods? #

koob
02-01-2010, 10:38 AM
I believe a PAC can only give $4k to a campaign (I could be wrong though).

From the Wiki page on PACs:

"Federal multi-candidate PACs are limited in the amount of money they can contribute to candidate campaigns or other organizations: at most $5,000 per candidate per election. Elections such as primaries, general elections and special elections are counted separately."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee)

RonPaulFanInGA
02-01-2010, 10:39 AM
I believe a PAC can only give $4k to a campaign (I could be wrong though).

It's $5,000.

Palin is supposed to be in Kentucky in April. Maybe she'll campaign for him then or something.

Either way, this is a big endorsement that helps one of our candidate's electoral chances.

angelatc
02-01-2010, 10:42 AM
I wanted to write on Palin's Facebook page, in order to encourage her to write an official endorsement for Rand Paul, but I can't figure out how to do it.

Thousands upon thousands of people have messages there, so it's apparently possible.

If somebody else can figure it out I'll reply in support.

ctiger2
02-01-2010, 10:47 AM
I just pray Rand doesn't get Neo-conned by her. It could turn out to be a dangerous endorsement. Hopefully not strings are attached to the money.

lordindra3
02-01-2010, 10:50 AM
Wow, this is sooooo awesome!!! Im so happy about this endorsement!!! This is soooo cool! Thank you Sarah Palin, my respect for you went up 300%!

amisspelledword
02-01-2010, 10:52 AM
It's $5,000.

Palin is supposed to be in Kentucky in April. Maybe she'll campaign for him then or something.

Either way, this is a big endorsement that helps one of our candidate's electoral chances.

that'd be perfect timing. that's when the negative ads will be in full force

PatriotOne
02-01-2010, 10:58 AM
Sarah Pailin needs the Tea Partiers to win the 2012 Presidential run...hence the endorsement. More pied pipering by false messiahs to lead us into the 2012 SP honey pot. Don't get me wrong, I like that Rand Paul got the endorsement but don't be fooled that there isn't an alternative agenda at play here. Sarah Palin will be manipulated into a war (using phoney intelligence and maybe false flag shit) with Iran to protect Israel because she is a brainwashed Christian who has vowed to protect Israel.

Glen Beck/Sarah Palin being used to vector the disgruntled Americans, get elected, and then start WWIII. I doubt Palin even knows it because she's just a daft expendable puppet.

jmdrake
02-01-2010, 10:59 AM
Its irrational to assume he even has the primary sewn up before any votes are cast.

The point he's making is that right now Rand is ahead in the polls and is not cash strapped. There are other candidates who are. It's simply a matter of setting goals and prioritizing. Could Rand still lose? Sure anything's possible.

Matthew Zak
02-01-2010, 11:01 AM
Purists,

Is it ok with you if the rest of us celebrate this occasion?

MRoCkEd
02-01-2010, 11:03 AM
I was surprised by this but I am very pleased!

Malachi
02-01-2010, 11:03 AM
Purists,

Is it ok with you if the rest of us celebrate this occasion?

They claim don't get neo-con'd, there might be strings attached, she is doing it for her personal game.

Response:

Life is a two-way street baby.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZV151dV1R9I/SnB8owQgSpI/AAAAAAAAAvs/NUnAD0FkTyk/s320/sarah-palin-wink.jpg

KAYA
02-01-2010, 11:03 AM
Its irrational to assume he even has the primary sewn up before any votes are cast.

"Recent independent polls show Rand holding a double digit lead in the Republican primary and large leads over either Democratic opponent." http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses/

A double digit lead over the establishment guy this early is huge! Rand would have to go off the deep end to lost this primary.

rancher89
02-01-2010, 11:07 AM
celebrate all you want, it's your right and I support your right to the utmost. :)

I'll just sit over here and wait for the next act in the play. Sorry, I just think it isn't a good idea to have neocons, and less than intellegent ones at that (Palin = puppet), endorse "our" Liberty candidates. There will be a price to pay.

But go ahead and celebrate and have a good time! I'm jealous of your good mood....:)

Chieftain1776
02-01-2010, 11:07 AM
This is great news. Those of you pimping for other candidates please do so elsewhere.

I think this is a great move for the whole movement for smaller government.

Malachi
02-01-2010, 11:10 AM
This is great news. Those of you pimping for other candidates please do so elsewhere.


Plus infinity!

Keep the threads on topic!

Palin endorsement is huge!

Honestly, I can't think of a more effective endorsement for this closed GOP primary.

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 11:12 AM
"Recent independent polls show Rand holding a double digit lead in the Republican primary and large leads over either Democratic opponent." http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses/

A double digit lead over the establishment guy this early is huge! Rand would have to go off the deep end to lost this primary.

Anyone take a look at Rand's schedule? He's still busting ass as if he's losing and that's the attitude that his supporters should be encouraging.

jmdrake
02-01-2010, 11:23 AM
Anyone take a look at Rand's schedule? He's still busting ass as if he's losing and that's the attitude that his supporters should be encouraging.

Of course. Work like we're behind. But the truth is Rand's isn't the only race out there and in some races we ARE behind! Some of us don't just want a Rand victory. We want a Rand, Kokesh, Medina, Schiff, Bradley (Gunny), Harris etc. victory. There's nothing wrong with people periodically re-evaluating where they want to spend resources. That said I'll be in KY during spring break precinct walking along with everyone else.

erowe1
02-01-2010, 11:24 AM
Our dollar can go much further helping these candidates out.

There is no "our dollar." There's your dollar, and there's my dollar. I don't think anybody here has tried to tell you how to allocate the dollars you donate to various candidates, telling you to give less to X and more to Y. How about you do the same?

Bergie Bergeron
02-01-2010, 11:25 AM
Kokesh has a money bomb today, I'm sending him a couple of $ right now.

Meatwasp
02-01-2010, 11:26 AM
I am not a fan of hers but Rand should take money and endorsements as he can. Reagan took money from the Log Cabin republicans and caused a furor at that time.

rancher89
02-01-2010, 11:26 AM
+1776

jabf2006
02-01-2010, 11:26 AM
Of course. Work like we're behind. But the truth is Rand's isn't the only race out there and in some races we ARE behind! Some of us don't just want a Rand victory. We want a Rand, Kokesh, Medina, Schiff, Bradley (Gunny), Harris etc. victory. There's nothing wrong with people periodically re-evaluating where they want to spend resources. That said I'll be in KY during spring break precinct walking along with everyone else.

Indeed. I just didn't think we should be encouraging people the make that decision on the false assumption that Rand's race is a forgone conclusion.

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 11:27 AM
I am not a fan of hers but Rand should take money and endorsements as he can. Reagan took money from the Log Cabin republicans and caused a furor at that time.

How did Reagan turn out? Yeah....not your best analogy lol.

erowe1
02-01-2010, 11:27 AM
This is great! Hopefully Rand will be able to move conservatives toward him and not the other way around! Lets try to get Huckabee to endorse now! The more people who endorse, the more people will begin to expect Republicans to run candidates like Rand!

I can understand Palin endorsing him. She at least has some areas of agreement. But why would Huck even consider it?

Aratus
02-01-2010, 11:32 AM
huck's army has marching orders for 2016 insted of 2012? if obama wins in 2012 he be lame duck
by 2016 and huckabee has an organization that is baptist and loyal to him! if barack obama looses,
then huck will challenge the lucky Republican victor whose own new administration had better not
see unemployment numbers go above 10% at all! huckabee is relatively young and energetic!!!

amisspelledword
02-01-2010, 11:34 AM
here's another link mentioning the endorsement:

http://www.politicallore.com/featured/rand-paul-snags-sarah-palin-endorsement/1643

its just a copy of the press release thats available on RandPaul2010.com

other links to the news:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/2010/02/paul_announces_palin_endorseme.html

2 from Politico: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0210/Palin_for_Paul.html?showall & http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/0210/Rand_Paul_claims_Palin_endorsement.html

from 2nd Politico link:


We’re also hearing that Paul’s endorsement may have come prematurely: Palin hasn’t released any statement announcing the endorsement, and Grayson allies are privately telling POLITICO they’re not convinced she’s publicly endorsing in this race.

http://race42008.com/2010/02/01/palin-endorses-rand-paul-for-senate/

Should Paul go on to win this senate seat he could prove to be an incredible ally for Palin, potentially aligning Palin’s social conservatives with Paul’s libertarians. Such a union could prove an unstoppable combo should she decide to run for the GOP nomination in 2012.


yes im just googling

Wes
02-01-2010, 11:39 AM
This is very bad news for the Rand Paul campaign. Most think of Palin as an absolute imbecile and this endorsement will only make the general election harder since independents and democrats absolutely despise Palin.

Bergie Bergeron
02-01-2010, 11:40 AM
Endorsing Paul would be an unconventional move for the former Alaska governor: Despite his anti-establishment background and fiscally conservative credentials, he’s come out for the closing of the Guantanamo Bay prison and favors abortion rights – positions at odds with Palin’s beliefs.

We’re also hearing that Paul’s endorsement may have come prematurely: Palin hasn’t released any statement announcing the endorsement, and Grayson allies are privately telling POLITICO they’re not convinced she’s publicly endorsing in this race.

...

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 11:41 AM
here's another link mentioning the endorsement:

http://www.politicallore.com/featured/rand-paul-snags-sarah-palin-endorsement/1643

its just a copy of the press release thats available on RandPaul2010.com

other links to the news:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/2010/02/paul_announces_palin_endorseme.html

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/0210/Rand_Paul_claims_Palin_endorsement.html

from Politico:



http://race42008.com/2010/02/01/palin-endorses-rand-paul-for-senate/



yes im just googling

That's just fucking ewwww. No libertarian in there right mind would vote for Palin. The only reason I stomach this is because it is unsolicited. I bet Scheunemann is laughing right now.

amisspelledword
02-01-2010, 11:42 AM
here's a mention, also:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/sarah-palin-endorses-rand-paul-in-kentucky-senate-race.php


All of this is why a Palin endorsement is good. Name recognition if nothing else.

erowe1
02-01-2010, 11:43 AM
The only reason I stomach this is because it is unsolicited.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Palin's endorsement was very zealously solicited.

jmdrake
02-01-2010, 11:44 AM
I can understand Palin endorsing him. She at least has some areas of agreement. But why would Huck even consider it?

I'm sorry. But what's the difference between Huck and Palin other than the fact that Huckabee is male and Huck did not endorse the bailout like Palin did?

http://jdmiller82.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/24/1906909-huckabee-on-the-700b-bailout

I wouldn't vote for either one, but if I was going to choose I'd take Huck over Palin.

specsaregood
02-01-2010, 11:45 AM
For the record: SarahPAC also donated to the reelection campaign for Lindsay Graham. Yeah I like that she endorsed Rand, but it still makes me feel dirty.

MRoCkEd
02-01-2010, 11:49 AM
I want to know though - is it safe to say Palin endorsed Paul just because SarahPAC donated to Rand?

Malachi
02-01-2010, 11:50 AM
I want to know though - is it safe to say Palin endorsed Paul just because SarahPAC donated to Rand?

It's her official PAC. Do you think Cornyn's PAC donated to Grayson without his permission?

specsaregood
02-01-2010, 11:59 AM
I want to know though - is it safe to say Palin endorsed Paul just because SarahPAC donated to Rand?

I'd say its safe to say so since the official campaign is saying it:
"National political icon and conservative leader Sarah Palin has endorsed Dr. Rand Paul in his bid for United States Senate from Kentucky"
http://www.randpaul2010.com/

YumYum
02-01-2010, 12:06 PM
On the 30th I predicted:


"Prediction: Beck and possibly Palin will endorse Campaign for Liberty, Rand, and possibly Schiff."

Let's see if Beck is next. If so, the Beckers will take over. What will that mean for those of us who started at the grassroots level? Will we be pushed aside for the Beckers and the Palin crowd?

ch164708
02-01-2010, 12:38 PM
On the 30th I predicted:


"Prediction: Beck and possibly Palin will endorse Campaign for Liberty, Rand, and possibly Schiff."

Let's see if Beck is next. If so, the Beckers will take over. What will that mean for those of us who started at the grassroots level? Will we be pushed aside for the Beckers and the Palin crowd?


Pushed aside? This is about getting the man elected. If he wins, we all know that he will be on our side. I do not care if mitch McConnel himself takes the campaign over. We know who Rand will stand for, it is about getting elected.

Cardinal Red
02-01-2010, 12:39 PM
Anyone who doesn't understand that this is the biggest thing that has happened to Rand's campaign yet simply doesn't understand elective politics. While Rand should fight for every vote like the underdog, I think this clearly establishes him as the favorite in this race.

His endorsements previously were certainly useful, but none was from a contemporary political figure in the conservative movement at anywhere near this stature.

This endorsement will absolutely "Give permission" for the Club for Growth, DeMint, and others who were holding back to jump in the water and endorse him offifcially. It firmly establishes him as the candidate of the conservative grassroots.

Great job and congratulations to the campaign!

low preference guy
02-01-2010, 12:40 PM
Way to point to the obvious, but missing the generality. I would hope people would see the huge discrepancy both in momentum, funds, motivation, endorsements, and other auxillary reasons that Rand is about a 95% favorite at this time with the Primary not being too far away. All points, point to easy victory. Now, on the other hand we have embattled candidates who need our funds, more than Rand. I would hope that this would be obvious. If you only want Rand elected, then only donate to Rand. If you want multiple liberty candidates get elected, then look at the races and see how far ahead Rand is and I would hope people would be using their limited funds to help out RJ, Jake, Debra, Adam, Pat Sellers, et. al.

I have donated to all of the above except Pat and I'm trying to pool more funds together. Our dollar can go much further helping these candidates out.

You're an expert on derailing threads. A few days ago you turned a positive thread about Rand Paul into one about term limits. Today, you turned the Sarah Palin endorsement thread into an argument of whether one should keep donating or not to Paul. Clicking on the new thread button isn't so hard.

Malachi
02-01-2010, 12:42 PM
You're an expert on derailing threads. A few days ago you turned a positive thread about Rand Paul into one about term limits. Today, you turned the Sarah Palin endorsement thread into an argument of whether one should keep donating or not to Paul. Clicking on the new thread button isn't so hard.

+ 1

AED is a major thread killer.

Palin endorsed Rand Paul! :eek:

low preference guy
02-01-2010, 12:43 PM
This is great! Hopefully Rand will be able to move conservatives toward him and not the other way around! Lets try to get Huckabee to endorse now! The more people who endorse, the more people will begin to expect Republicans to run candidates like Rand!

Please no Huckabee. He should be in jail for letting violent killers out of prison. People died because of that.

YumYum
02-01-2010, 12:45 PM
Anyone who doesn't understand that this is the biggest thing that has happened to Rand's campaign yet simply doesn't understand elective politics. While Rand should fight for every vote like the underdog, I think this clearly establishes him as the favorite in this race.

His endorsements previously were certainly useful, but none was from a contemporary political figure in the conservative movement at anywhere near this stature.

This endorsement will absolutely "Give permission" for the Club for Growth, DeMint, and others who were holding back to jump in the water and endorse him offifcially. It firmly establishes him as the candidate of the conservative grassroots.

Great job and congratulations to the campaign!

When Rand is elected and he doesn't make any compromises, then it is a winner for sure. But Palin is for war, so how is Rand going to handle that?

specsaregood
02-01-2010, 12:49 PM
When Rand is elected and he doesn't make any compromises, then it is a winner for sure. But Palin is for war, so how is Rand going to handle that?

As I mentioned elsewhere. Palin might have had to do this to keep up her "going rogue" image. I think it might be as simple as that.

cswake
02-01-2010, 12:49 PM
Same way he handles McConnell... endorses their good actions.

dannno
02-01-2010, 12:52 PM
Mommy to melt down in 3...2....1....

LOL, anything on this yet?

low preference guy
02-01-2010, 12:52 PM
I wanted to write on Palin's Facebook page, in order to encourage her to write an official endorsement for Rand Paul, but I can't figure out how to do it.

Thousands upon thousands of people have messages there, so it's apparently possible.

If somebody else can figure it out I'll reply in support.

I think you need to befriend her or become her fan.

Malachi
02-01-2010, 12:53 PM
LOL, anything on this yet?

I bet she is typing as we speak.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=229245

angelatc
02-01-2010, 12:53 PM
I think you need to befriend her or become her fan.

I am a Facebook fan. Not really, but I do get her updates just to keep tabs on what she is doing.

rp4prez
02-01-2010, 12:55 PM
I find it odd that two faced Palin can back Rand but in Texas she backs Perry. I mean how two faced can this b*tch be? Really she's just backing the popular candidate. Ugh.. she might be attractive but I still can't stand her.

dannno
02-01-2010, 01:13 PM
I find it odd that two faced Palin can back Rand but in Texas she backs Perry. I mean how two faced can this b*tch be? Really she's just backing the popular candidate. Ugh.. she might be attractive but I still can't stand her.


I don't like Palin at all, but I'll bet she doesn't know who Medina is and/or Medina isn't up in the polls like Rand (yet) taking her off the radar.

itshappening
02-01-2010, 01:14 PM
# CNHI News still unable to confirm Palin endorsement claim by Rand Paul 35 minutes ago from mobile web

Malachi
02-01-2010, 01:15 PM
I find it odd that two faced Palin can back Rand but in Texas she backs Perry. I mean how two faced can this b*tch be? Really she's just backing the popular candidate. Ugh.. she might be attractive but I still can't stand her.

Yes, Palin did backed Perry way too early. :(

But, people like to endorse the perceived winner (the safe bets); we just have to accept that.

Go Medina!

lordindra3
02-01-2010, 01:52 PM
Please dont use profinity towards politicians [although you may not like her] that have been kind enough to endorse Rand Paul. Thank you very much!

Epic
02-01-2010, 02:09 PM
So she's backing Rand, Perry, and McCain.

That's pretty much every wing of the GOP.

AlterEgo
02-01-2010, 02:28 PM
If Sarah Palin shows up in Ky, he will destroy trayson.


No doubt, hopefully Rand will put in a good word for her campaign.

Hopefully all she will do is say some good things about Rand that can be quoted and spread around. Her going to KY would not be the best idea.

AlterEgo
02-01-2010, 02:33 PM
Please no Huckabee. He should be in jail for letting violent killers out of prison. People died because of that.


Thhis is a good news because it should solidify support among social conservatives for Rand. Huckabee on the other hand I am not so sure about


Except that Huck took #2 place in KY during the primary last Presidential cycle. His endorsement wouldnt be a bad thing either.

AlterEgo
02-01-2010, 02:39 PM
This is very bad news for the Rand Paul campaign. Most think of Palin as an absolute imbecile and this endorsement will only make the general election harder since independents and democrats absolutely despise Palin.Rand will win the general there is no question about that.


That's just fucking ewwww. No libertarian in there right mind would vote for Palin. The only reason I stomach this is because it is unsolicited. I bet Scheunemann is laughing right now.
No one is voting for Palin, they are voting for Rand. And the Palinite lemmings will do what she says. If she tells her followers to vote for Rand they'll do so. This is a good thing.

sofia
02-01-2010, 02:39 PM
phony bitch...

this is like when our Soviet "allies" declared war upon Japan AFTER the two A-bombs were dropped.

lordindra3
02-01-2010, 02:40 PM
Huckabee is actually a big government guy! The one good thing him and Sarah have is the whole social conservative thing... Other than that, Huck raised taxes, increased spending, increased government social programs. We almost had 2 presidents from the Arkansas Democrat party!

libertygrl
02-01-2010, 02:44 PM
Now Rand has the neocons paying him to win. Interesting development.




I AM VERY SUSPICIOUS ABOUT THIS.... :(

On the one hand it is definitely a good thing to get an endorsement from a very high profile political figure like Palin and the funds that go along with it. HOWEVER, we also know that she is part of the FAUX NEWS BECK/HANNITY NEO CON TEA PARTY movement which co-opted the Ron Paul Tea Party and blurred the distinction between the two groups in order to shift conservative Republican voters away from the Ron Paul Revolution and into Neo-Con territory. (If some hadn't been there already)

Keep this in mind when it comes to our liberty candidates. Is the Palin/Neo-Con machinery trying to co-opt them as well??? Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'd keep a very close eye on this!

GunnyFreedom
02-01-2010, 02:45 PM
LOL, anything on this yet?

yes. total meltdown. She severed all ties with any org that has anything to do with Palin whatever. lol :D not a Palin fan, but THAT is hilarious. :D

low preference guy
02-01-2010, 03:15 PM
I feel sorta like.... I... like... Palin.

YouTube - Sarah Palin on Ron Paul and Republican partisanship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YglP4clX0A)

Imperial
02-01-2010, 03:26 PM
I don't know if you missed the part, but I specifically said Primary. We can get back to Rand in the General, but for now we have to get all of our liberty-candidates past the primary and Rand is about 98% confirmed to get the Primary at this point.

It would such a shame if RJ, Adam, Jake, or Pat didn't get past the primaries or were too ill-funded to do much in the General, because of irrational fears about Rand losing now.

Agreed, although I would include Peter Schiff as much as many of those others.

Paulitical Correctness
02-01-2010, 03:28 PM
I feel sorta like.... I... like... Palin.



let's not get carried away now. :p

MRoCkEd
02-01-2010, 03:30 PM
http://www.whas11.com/news/Sarah-Palin-endorsing-Rand-Pauls-campaign-83264227.html

(WHAS11) - BCUS Senate candidate Rand Paul tells WHAS11's Joe Arnold that Sarah Palin is endorsing his campaign.

"It's huge," Paul said, adding that he has never spoken to the former Alaska Governor and 2008 Republican Vice-presidential nominee.

The endorsement by SarahPAC, Palin's political action committee, exposes a rift in the national Republican Party. The nation's top elected Republican, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is backing Secretary of State Trey Grayson in the GOP primary.

Palin is a defacto leader of the Tea Party movement, the grassroots backlash to government bailouts and taxation.

Joe Arnold is talking to Rand Paul today and reports on the unusual way the endorsement was obtained tonight on WHAS11 News

Dreamofunity
02-01-2010, 03:35 PM
When will the 25 minutes interview of both Ron and Rand be up on their site?

amisspelledword
02-01-2010, 03:39 PM
Palin is a defacto leader of the Tea Party movement, the grassroots backlash to government bailouts and taxation.

how can they say that? that is hurtful.

Brian4Liberty
02-01-2010, 03:55 PM
I believe a PAC can only give $4k to a campaign (I could be wrong though).

Maybe the SarahPAC will spend $350k on television ads for Rand...to advertise their, uh, uh, survey! ;)

erowe1
02-01-2010, 03:58 PM
I'm sorry. But what's the difference between Huck and Palin other than the fact that Huckabee is male and Huck did not endorse the bailout like Palin did?

http://jdmiller82.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/24/1906909-huckabee-on-the-700b-bailout

I wouldn't vote for either one, but if I was going to choose I'd take Huck over Palin.

Yeah, but to put that bailout thing in context, Palin was a VP candidate at the time going along with what the top of the ticket was for, whereas Huckabee was trying to start a career as a conservative commentator.

But when he was still running for president, Huckabee was by far the most liberal of all Republican candidates on all fiscal issues. The National Taxpayers' Union's study of all the candidates revealed over $50 billion in new federal spending promised by Huckabee. To put that in perspective, Romney was the second worst among Republicans at $19 billion in new spending.
http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=991&org_name=NTUF

Huckabee's entire tenure as governor was characterized by massive government growth, particularly in welfarish type things. If he were still governor when all the bailouts happened, he would have been at the front of the line cheering them on, including the Obama stimulus. The one area where I think Palin at least showed some tendencies toward a Ron Paul-ish perspective when she was governor was in her willingness to stand up against the Federal government and assert Alaskan sovereignty, such as on the aerial wolf hunting issue. Meanwhile, the only complaints Huckabee ever had against the federal government when he was governor were that they didn't set the minimum wage high enough, etc.

All that being said, if Huckabee is trying to recreate himself as a fiscal conservative, as might be indicated by opposing one of the bailouts, then maybe he would endorse Rand as well. And I don't mean to give Palin too much credit. Ever since running as VP she's at best damaged goods, and the bailout was one of many ways that she proved all to willing to go along with whatever McCain wanted.

amisspelledword
02-01-2010, 04:09 PM
there is a link to the Politico story about Sarah's endorsement on the front page of Politico right now

KAYA
02-01-2010, 04:14 PM
On the 30th I predicted:


"Prediction: Beck and possibly Palin will endorse Campaign for Liberty, Rand, and possibly Schiff."

Let's see if Beck is next. If so, the Beckers will take over. What will that mean for those of us who started at the grassroots level? Will we be pushed aside for the Beckers and the Palin crowd?

Beck endorsed Rand many months ago.

angelatc
02-01-2010, 04:19 PM
there is a link to the Politico story about Sarah's endorsement on the front page of Politico right now

The Grayson campaign sounds rather bitter. Wow.

Matt Collins
02-01-2010, 04:20 PM
Beck endorsed Rand many months ago.
Link???? :confused:



.

Flash
02-01-2010, 04:21 PM
I'm pretty sure Beck can't endorse candidates. He can have Rand on his show again though..

Bman
02-01-2010, 04:22 PM
I'm still not a Palin fan, but if she keeps supporting liberty candidates I may lighten up my stance... so long as she doesn't run for President.

Paulitical Correctness
02-01-2010, 04:28 PM
I'm still not a Palin fan, but if she keeps supporting liberty candidates I may lighten up my stance... so long as she doesn't run for President.

Yes. Let's not soften our scrutiny of Palin. An endorsement is not a free ticket into the liberty movement.

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 04:32 PM
I'll know she truly supports Liberty-Candidates when she supports people like Adam Kokesh, RJ Harris, and Peter Schiff. (I give this a 0% chance of ever happening)

Flash
02-01-2010, 04:36 PM
I'll know she truly supports Liberty-Candidates when she supports people like Adam Kokesh, RJ Harris, and Peter Schiff. (I give this a 0% chance of ever happening)

I agree with what you're saying, but an endorsement of Schiff would probably kill his campaign in a state like CT.

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-01-2010, 04:38 PM
I agree with what you're saying, but an endorsement of Schiff would probably kill his campaign in a state like CT.

Yes, true. I was merely referring to the philosophical divide :p

tron paul
02-01-2010, 08:17 PM
Yes. Let's not soften our scrutiny of Palin. An endorsement is not a free ticket into the liberty movement.

Scrutiny is not the same as contempt and abuse.

Most of the Palin 'scrutinizers' around here go far beyond scrutiny, into the realm of contempt and abuse, with a nice dash of misogyny thrown in for good measure.

And so, it makes me very happy than on this day, the following Palin hating crybabies get to drink a nice cool glass of "Confirmed: Palin endorses Paul in Kentucky"

*Allahpundit (cry me a river you neocon scum)

*Lisa Graas (are you going to say sorry for claiming that Dr Paul's staff was lying?)

*all the Isra-Fundy Paul haters at FreeRepublic (mnehring, fieldmarshalldj, EternalVigilance, Reagan Man, mkjessup, Zionist Conspirator, etc., where is your AIPAC/Jeebus GAWD now?)

*all the snotty Anarchist punks here at RPF (how did trolling and crapflooding those pro-Palin threads work out for you?)


LET THE SCHADENFREUDE JOY COMMENCE!!!

Poor Lisa Graas, how does it taste to eat your own words? Like crow?


http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2010/01/lisa-graas-train-has-left-station.html

It rarely does any good for pundits to offer initial analytical reactions to Palin decisions. They're never completely on target. Mind you, this is frequently true even when they're my reactions. I rarely get it exactly right, though I'm paying more attention than the average analyst. I have learned to trust and wait when it comes to the public decisions Sarah Palin makes. She's yet to let me down.

Since I've settled snugly into the peace of abandoning any and all second-guessing, it's become rather an amusing pastime for me to watch the "knee-jerk" emotional and intellectual reactions from among even the most hardened pundits whenever this particular private citizen makes any decision that might remotely be interpreted to have political impact.

The biggest LOL of all is watching Charles Johnson hiss, spit, and generally melt down like a block of frozen piss thrown into a crematorium.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35689_Moronic_Convergence_Accelerates_-_Palin_Endorses_Rand_Paul/comments/#ctop:)

Paulitical Correctness
02-01-2010, 08:30 PM
^ Agree. I don't advocate hatred or personal attacks of any kind.

RyanRSheets
02-01-2010, 11:03 PM
That's just ridiculous. You take what you can and do good with it. If your enemy endorses you, don't question it, use it!

Ethek
02-01-2010, 11:35 PM
(S)he joined in 2007.

That merited me no using the troll label in my response

Promontorium
02-02-2010, 01:52 AM
Scrutiny is not the same as contempt and abuse.

Most of the Palin 'scrutinizers' around here go far beyond scrutiny, into the realm of contempt and abuse, with a nice dash of misogyny thrown in for good measure.

And so, it makes me very happy than on this day, the following Palin hating crybabies get to drink a nice cool glass of "Confirmed: Palin endorses Paul in Kentucky"

*Allahpundit (cry me a river you neocon scum)

*Lisa Graas (are you going to say sorry for claiming that Dr Paul's staff was lying?)

*all the Isra-Fundy Paul haters at FreeRepublic (mnehring, fieldmarshalldj, EternalVigilance, Reagan Man, mkjessup, Zionist Conspirator, etc., where is your AIPAC/Jeebus GAWD now?)

*all the snotty Anarchist punks here at RPF (how did trolling and crapflooding those pro-Palin threads work out for you?)


LET THE SCHADENFREUDE JOY COMMENCE!!!

Poor Lisa Graas, how does it taste to eat your own words? Like crow?



The biggest LOL of all is watching Charles Johnson hiss, spit, and generally melt down like a block of frozen piss thrown into a crematorium.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35689_Moronic_Convergence_Accelerates_-_Palin_Endorses_Rand_Paul/comments/#ctop:)


Hilarious gloating. This is how is it done folks.

Agorism
02-02-2010, 02:03 AM
Originally Posted by tron paul View Post
Scrutiny is not the same as contempt and abuse.

Most of the Palin 'scrutinizers' around here go far beyond scrutiny, into the realm of contempt and abuse, with a nice dash of misogyny thrown in for good measure.

And so, it makes me very happy than on this day, the following Palin hating crybabies get to drink a nice cool glass of "Confirmed: Palin endorses Paul in Kentucky"

*Allahpundit (cry me a river you neocon scum)

*Lisa Graas (are you going to say sorry for claiming that Dr Paul's staff was lying?)

*all the Isra-Fundy Paul haters at FreeRepublic (mnehring, fieldmarshalldj, EternalVigilance, Reagan Man, mkjessup, Zionist Conspirator, etc., where is your AIPAC/Jeebus GAWD now?)

*all the snotty Anarchist punks here at RPF (how did trolling and crapflooding those pro-Palin threads work out for you?)


LET THE SCHADENFREUDE JOY COMMENCE!!!

Poor Lisa Graas, how does it taste to eat your own words? Like crow?



The biggest LOL of all is watching Charles Johnson hiss, spit, and generally melt down like a block of frozen piss thrown into a crematorium.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...comments/#ctop


This post was stupid. Just because we're anarchists doesn't mean we don't want Palin endorsing Rand Paul.

That doesn't mean we supported or would ever support Palin for president.

This alliance is kind of a a one-way street if you hadn't noticed as in we're glad to have her support, but this doesn't mean I'll be getting a Palin 2012 bump sticker anytime soon nor will is it any reason to bash anarchists.