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Reason
02-01-2010, 12:12 AM
Sometimes it's nice to know you're not the only one that has a particular thought/viewpoint... :)

YouTube - The Super Bowl has been CANCELED!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hTbRqZcnjQ)

YouTube - Super Bowl boycott covered by CBS news (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG8TlWJcqCE)

dannno
02-01-2010, 12:18 AM
I go surfing cause the waves are usually good this time of year and most breaks are pretty empty :D

Reason
02-01-2010, 12:33 AM
Gotta love his clips lol

YouTube - Mark Dice offers over $1000 worth of gold for free to random people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaVK5AkZzI)

BlackTerrel
02-01-2010, 12:47 AM
What is this guy talking about? People enjoy watching competition - it's entertainment.

As far as being cancelled the Superbowl will get 100 million viewers for four hours. This guys 4 minute rant has 300 views.

purplechoe
02-01-2010, 12:50 AM
/\/\/\

I guess he's watching the superbowl... :)

Reason
02-01-2010, 12:51 AM
What is this guy talking about? People enjoy watching competition - it's entertainment.

As far as being cancelled the Superbowl will get 100 million viewers for four hours. This guys 4 minute rant has 300 views.

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/Civilradiant/whoosh.gif

FrankRep
02-01-2010, 12:51 AM
My Cowboys lost so the Superbowl is cancelled for me.

:(

Daamien
02-01-2010, 12:54 AM
Last time I checked enjoying a sporting event and educating yourself about topics such as the Federal Reserve aren't mutually exclusive. You can love liberty and football.

Reason
02-01-2010, 01:11 AM
Last time I checked enjoying a sporting event and educating yourself about topics such as the Federal Reserve aren't mutually exclusive. You can love liberty and football.

Definitely not the point imo.

I don't see our societies' fascination with national level sports as any better/worse than American Idol or any other distractions from reality.

Daamien
02-01-2010, 01:22 AM
Definitely not the point imo.

I don't see our societies' fascination with national level sports as any better/worse than American Idol or any other distractions from reality.

Yeah, you're right... his appeal to emotion really awoke the liberty lover in me, a diehard football fan. /sarcasm

Bman
02-01-2010, 01:24 AM
lol. Very impassioned speech, but I'll still be drinking beer parked in front of the TV screen for a few hours next sunday.

Anti Federalist
02-01-2010, 01:25 AM
Umm...who's playing?

Bman
02-01-2010, 01:26 AM
Umm...who's playing?

The Aint's and the Dolt's.

Anti Federalist
02-01-2010, 01:28 AM
The Aint's and the Dolt's.

No shit...they'll be going nuts in NOLA.

Bman
02-01-2010, 01:32 AM
No shit...they'll be going nuts in NOLA.

Just like the good ole days.

BlackTerrel
02-01-2010, 02:38 AM
Who dat?

nobody's_hero
02-01-2010, 04:04 AM
Gotta love his clips lol

YouTube - Mark Dice offers over $1000 worth of gold for free to random people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaVK5AkZzI)

This one was waaaaay better.

"From Canada? Oh, a dollar-fifty."

lmao

silverhandorder
02-01-2010, 06:38 AM
I really don't like this guy he is too much of a drama queen. How often does Superbowl happen? 1 day a year?? He couldn't find something else to bitch about?

Plus I don't even know if I agree with him completely. I wonder how much faster socialist propaganda would spread if we had more interested in politics. I would say a lot of resistance against socialism in this country we take for granted. A lot of it simply people who like their lives (even if they are less free) and could care less for "change".

I think the real solution is going to come not from us belittling something people love but bringing to them understanding of how statist policies effect their well being.

Pepsi
02-01-2010, 06:38 AM
The Saints are going to win.

inibo
02-01-2010, 07:01 AM
Umm...who's playing?

Um... er... ah... good question.

:)

fisharmor
02-01-2010, 07:14 AM
I can't stomach football.
I tried watching it a couple months ago, and in 90 seconds I had seen someone score a goal, take out a rag from his belt, and dust off his shoes, which got him a flag for improper celebration of a touchdown.
Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot, people? I mean, in that 90 second random segment I watched, I got to witness the most asinine sports moment I've ever witnessed.

I still watch the Superbowl, just like I try to watch the World Series... if nothing else than to do some anthropological research, to try to find out how the other slaves make their lives less menial. (I still find my choices much less boring.)

Now Boxing.... if we could get that back on broadcast TV, I'd be all about that. But only if we could get rid of the TKO once and for all.

Meiun
02-01-2010, 07:37 AM
Definitely not the point imo.

I don't see our societies' fascination with national level sports as any better/worse than American Idol or any other distractions from reality.

H.G. Wells - "there will be arenas." It's part of the progressive's/marxist plan to keep us entertained in other ways. Stimulate the male psyche in such a way that they will lose focus on what really matters.

I agree... but still, GO COLTS!

inibo
02-01-2010, 08:10 AM
H.G. Wells - "there will be arenas." It's part of the progressive's/marxist plan to keep us entertained in other ways. Stimulate the male psyche in such a way that they will lose focus on what really matters.

I agree... but still, GO COLTS!

A lot of people in Baltimore will be rooting for the Saints. :)

Old wounds heal slowly.

TXcarlosTX
02-01-2010, 08:15 AM
I can't stomach football.
I tried watching it a couple months ago, and in 90 seconds I had seen someone score a goal, take out a rag from his belt, and dust off his shoes, which got him a flag for improper celebration of a touchdown.
Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot, people? I mean, in that 90 second random segment I watched, I got to witness the most asinine sports moment I've ever witnessed.

I still watch the Superbowl, just like I try to watch the World Series... if nothing else than to do some anthropological research, to try to find out how the other slaves make their lives less menial. (I still find my choices much less boring.)

Now Boxing.... if we could get that back on broadcast TV, I'd be all about that. But only if we could get rid of the TKO once and for all.

You didnt watch football. You watched handball. This is football.

YouTube - Iniesta's Goal against Chelsea in five languages (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIrg7CFy2T4)

jmdrake
02-01-2010, 09:12 AM
I think a lot of people are missing the point. For one thing while the superbowl may only be once a year, the "sports culture" is 24/7. You have grown men engaging in "fantasy football" which is just one step above Pokemon. I also disagree with the idea that we would be closer to socialism if more people took the time to learn about politics. Not unless you have no faith in the persuasiveness of your own ideas. The level of ignorance in this country is astounding. I was at dinner once and this grown woman who could tell you everything celebrity gossip, didn't know that Mexico wasn't a state. :embarrassed: (And no, she didn't think I said "New Mexico"). How do you even talk to someone like that about the issues facing our nation if she's not even sure where the borders are?

That said....I'll probably watch the superbowl.

RyanRSheets
02-01-2010, 09:32 AM
Mark Dice sounds so much like Bill Maher.

inibo
02-01-2010, 09:38 AM
Mark Dice sounds so much like Bill Maher.

With a quote from Bill Hicks.

tangent4ronpaul
02-01-2010, 10:03 AM
What is this guy talking about? People enjoy watching competition - it's entertainment.

As far as being cancelled the Superbowl will get 100 million viewers for four hours. This guys 4 minute rant has 300 views.

I guess that means that 200 Million were doing something useful then.

That only 50 Million bothered to watch the state of the union, doesn't bode well for the future of the country...

-t

RCA
02-01-2010, 10:28 AM
I couldn't even tell you who is in the Superbowl or when it is being played. I do know it's in Miami this year. That's about it.

Chester Copperpot
02-01-2010, 10:34 AM
What is this guy talking about? People enjoy watching competition - it's entertainment.

As far as being cancelled the Superbowl will get 100 million viewers for four hours. This guys 4 minute rant has 300 views.

TV = Idiot Box

Football = Distraction

Reference Roman History... Modern version of Bread and Circuses...


That is all...

Andrew-Austin
02-01-2010, 10:35 AM
AAAAAA-fucking-men. Football hysteria has always been so baffling to me.



I really don't like this guy he is too much of a drama queen. How often does Superbowl happen? 1 day a year?? He couldn't find something else to bitch about?


The amount of time and energy invested in watching, thinking, talking, praying, etc about the football seasons (college and pro) is quite hysteric.

Koz
02-01-2010, 10:37 AM
I go surfing cause the waves are usually good this time of year and most breaks are pretty empty :D

Danno-

Where do you surf at, I used to live in SoCal and surfed SanO a lot. Some other spots in San Clemente too.

KAYA
02-01-2010, 10:41 AM
Sometimes it's nice to know you're not the only one that has a particular thought/viewpoint... :)

YouTube - The Superbowl has been CANCELED!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hTbRqZcnjQ)

This holier than thou, preacher needs a big bowl of STFU gumbo! GEAUX SAINTS!!!

I can guarantee you if this tool bag's team would be in the big game he would not be posting this crap. He's just bitter that his team's not in it. GEAUX SAINTS!!!

coyote_sprit
02-01-2010, 10:46 AM
This holier than thou, preacher needs a big bowl of STFU gumbo! GEAUX SAINTS!!!

I can guarantee you if this tool bag's team would be in the big game he would not be posting this crap. He's just bitter that his team's not in it. GEAUX SAINTS!!!

Not everyone has a pro sports team they root for, maybe he legitimately hates football.

brandon
02-01-2010, 10:49 AM
That guy is so annoying. I can't stand his videos...i never make it more than a minute into them.

Natalie
02-01-2010, 10:53 AM
That guy is so annoying. I can't stand his videos...i never make it more than a minute into them.

Yeah, I didn't watch.

Even if the Superbowl really was cancelled, I wouldn't care. Football is boring, imo.

KAYA
02-01-2010, 11:17 AM
Not everyone has a pro sports team they root for, maybe he legitimately hates football.

Well then why is he implying he's watched the superbowl in years' past and is only boycotting this years?

Anti Federalist
02-01-2010, 11:19 AM
Um... er... ah... good question.

:)

Yeah, that would have been my response had somebody else asked the question.

;)

Romulus
02-01-2010, 11:27 AM
Lets face it guys..not everyone is into politics and truth like we are. I feel that frustration with my family all the time. My brother sent me and email saying, 'no politics, send porn'! My parents only have interest in the truth when their investments drop like a rock.

This is what we are dealing with... a majority of folks who want to be oblivious to what affects their life, surroundings and future.

A little unwind or distraction isnt a horrible thing, but Decadence has been the death of us.

Reason
02-01-2010, 11:55 AM
TV = Idiot Box

Football = Distraction

Reference Roman History... Modern version of Bread and Circuses...


That is all...

Agreed.

jmdrake
02-01-2010, 12:06 PM
This holier than thou, preacher needs a big bowl of STFU gumbo! GEAUX SAINTS!!!

I can guarantee you if this tool bag's team would be in the big game he would not be posting this crap. He's just bitter that his team's not in it. GEAUX SAINTS!!!

Did the thought occur to you that not everybody watches sports so not everybody even has a team?

silverhandorder
02-01-2010, 12:11 PM
I think a lot of people are missing the point. For one thing while the superbowl may only be once a year, the "sports culture" is 24/7. You have grown men engaging in "fantasy football" which is just one step above Pokemon. I also disagree with the idea that we would be closer to socialism if more people took the time to learn about politics. Not unless you have no faith in the persuasiveness of your own ideas. The level of ignorance in this country is astounding. I was at dinner once and this grown woman who could tell you everything celebrity gossip, didn't know that Mexico wasn't a state. :embarrassed: (And no, she didn't think I said "New Mexico"). How do you even talk to someone like that about the issues facing our nation if she's not even sure where the borders are?

That said....I'll probably watch the superbowl.

Just to clarify I do not think that we can not persuade people but propaganda is different. In USSR 100% voted and participated. Propaganda and natural discourse are different.

HOLLYWOOD
02-01-2010, 12:35 PM
Just to clarify I do not think that we can not persuade people but propaganda is different. In USSR 100% voted and participated. Propaganda and natural discourse are different.


Speaking about propaganda... last nights PRO BOWL on ESPN. How many times did the commentators state it was a sellout and largest crowd before/during/after the game? the last time the NFL had the PRO BOWL in CONUS was during the recession of 1980.

The upper-deck was at least 1/3 empty and the lower bowl was about 20% empty. The NFL laid off numerous employees, even in their profitable mulltibillion dollar business, which is fine, as long as they don't receive taxpayer welfare, but...

The NFL received corporate welfare for the New Orleans Saints and the Louisiana Super Dome.

The Taxpayers paid the $150 Million to repair the dome, and Millions more in "enhancements" ie... new multicolor LED scoreboards, remodeled Luxury Suites, concession stands, parking etc... taxpayer's dime. The Saints were very profitable, but did the Saints or the Super Dome pay any of the taxpayer's money back? NOPE.

If you disagree with the NFL and their abuse of the taxpayers and extravagant salaries/profits... then boycott the products that endorse and support the NFL or players.

coyote_sprit
02-01-2010, 12:40 PM
Well then why is he implying he's watched the superbowl in years' past and is only boycotting this years?

Same reason why many members on here voted for Kerry or Bush on 2004.

MelissaWV
02-01-2010, 01:00 PM
There's a slight smell of silliness on here. I've heard "football is a dumb distraction" repeatedly on these forums... usually from the same people that often distract themselves with internet memes or other similar things.

I like football. You might not. The notion that I'm some kind of moronic slave because I understand the penalties, plays, and strategy of it all is a bit over the top.

Most people have distractions of some sort.

coyote_sprit
02-01-2010, 01:02 PM
There's a slight smell of silliness on here. I've heard "football is a dumb distraction" repeatedly on these forums... usually from the same people that often distract themselves with internet memes or other similar things.

I like football. You might not. The notion that I'm some kind of moronic slave because I understand the penalties, plays, and strategy of it all is a bit over the top.

Most people have distractions of some sort.

I like gymnastics.

Reason
02-01-2010, 01:03 PM
There's a slight smell of silliness on here. I've heard "football is a dumb distraction" repeatedly on these forums... usually from the same people that often distract themselves with internet memes or other similar things.

I like football. You might not. The notion that I'm some kind of moronic slave because I understand the penalties, plays, and strategy of it all is a bit over the top.

Most people have distractions of some sort.

It's should be pretty obvious that this "issue" is in reference to the illogical mass collectivist behavior of millions of people all tripping over themselves to glue themselves to the TV AGAIN to watch more HOURS of senseless pseudo-violence while becoming amazingly emotionally invested in the perceived "outcome".

Andrew-Austin
02-01-2010, 01:05 PM
There's a slight smell of silliness on here. I've heard "football is a dumb distraction" repeatedly on these forums... usually from the same people that often distract themselves with internet memes or other similar things.

I like football. You might not. The notion that I'm some kind of moronic slave because I understand the penalties, plays, and strategy of it all is a bit over the top.

Most people have distractions of some sort.

I just think there is a strong correlation between sheepish behavior and sports fans. Some people here may go against that correlation, but it still stands.

Its like people who read TIME magazine and all those tabloid mags you see at grocery store checkouts, chances are the majority of them are sheep. If you read about and are interested in how some celebrity chick accidentally flashed a camera while drunk, its going to be quite bizarre if you know anything about important matters.

KCIndy
02-01-2010, 01:48 PM
:rolleyes:


:rolleyes:


:rolleyes:


.... like everything else on television.... if you don't like it, don't watch it!

.... ........... .......... and fer cryin' out loud, quit knocking my Colts!! LOL

:D

Reason
02-01-2010, 01:52 PM
I just think there is a strong correlation between sheepish behavior and sports fans. Some people here may go against that correlation, but it still stands.

Its like people who read TIME magazine and all those tabloid mags you see at grocery store checkouts, chances are the majority of them are sheep. If you read about and are interested in how some celebrity check accidentally flashed a camera while drunk, its going to be quite bizarre if you know anything about important matters.

http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/images/applause.gif

Baptist
02-01-2010, 02:05 PM
I've only watched a few Superbowls my entire life. BORING. I never really enjoyed watching other people have fun. Get off the couch and go have fun yourself.

If I owned a TV, and if I was going to watch sports, I'd at least watch something more entertaining. Watching men hit balls, dribble balls, or run with balls is just plain gay.

Snowboarding, surfing, extreme sports, now that's cool. Plus, it's individualistic, not all collectivist and communist like spectator sports.

Son of Detroit
02-01-2010, 02:06 PM
:|

Why can't a guy be into sports and still be aware of his political surroundings?

Sports are a HUGE part of my life... I play football, basketball, and baseball for my school. I am doing something sports related year round... I watch Sportscenter every day, ESPN is my homepage, and I post at multiple sports related forums. My room is filled with sports memorabilia, posters, and trophies of mine.

That said, I still have time to support the liberty movement and continue to become educated on the problems facing our country...

So all of you that say those who love sports are mindless drones and are part of the problem, well...fuck off.

SOD is gettin upset!

jmdrake
02-01-2010, 02:17 PM
Just to clarify I do not think that we can not persuade people but propaganda is different. In USSR 100% voted and participated. Propaganda and natural discourse are different.

Well I don't think "more interest in politics" = "masses succumbing to propaganda". And I don't think most of those who voted in the Soviet Union were at all interested in politics. In some countries you have to show up to vote in order to get your food rations.

jmdrake
02-01-2010, 02:20 PM
:|

Why can't a guy be into sports and still be aware of his political surroundings?

Sports are a HUGE part of my life... I play football, basketball, and baseball for my school. I am doing something sports related year round... I watch Sportscenter every day, ESPN is my homepage, and I post at multiple sports related forums. My room is filled with sports memorabilia, posters, and trophies of mine.

That said, I still have time to support the liberty movement and continue to become educated on the problems facing our country...

So all of you that say those who love sports are mindless drones and are part of the problem, well...fuck off.

SOD is gettin upset!

Great. Wonderful. The guy in the video wasn't talking to you then. There's nothing wrong with watching TV occasionally either, but it's sad when more Americans can name cartoon characters than the can the 5 freedoms in the bill of rights. This is/was a commentary on America in general. Not a direct assault on everyone who ever watches a football game.

Romulus
02-01-2010, 02:39 PM
:|

Why can't a guy be into sports and still be aware of his political surroundings?

Sports are a HUGE part of my life... I play football, basketball, and baseball for my school. I am doing something sports related year round... I watch Sportscenter every day, ESPN is my homepage, and I post at multiple sports related forums. My room is filled with sports memorabilia, posters, and trophies of mine.

That said, I still have time to support the liberty movement and continue to become educated on the problems facing our country...

So all of you that say those who love sports are mindless drones and are part of the problem, well...fuck off.

SOD is gettin upset!

You are the exception to the rule... I wouldnt take it personal, but there will always people who will paint with a broad brush. Doesnt mean they are 100% right.. just 98.5%. ;)

BlackTerrel
02-01-2010, 04:16 PM
You are the exception to the rule... I wouldnt take it personal, but there will always people who will paint with a broad brush. Doesnt mean they are 100% right.. just 98.5%. ;)

I am pretty sure out of the 100 million Americans that watch the Superbowl there is a wide range of political beliefs.

As well as a bunch of people who don't give a crap about politics - which is their right.

Bman
02-01-2010, 04:24 PM
Yeah, I didn't watch.

Even if the Superbowl really was cancelled, I wouldn't care. Football is boring, imo.


Oh yeah!

Well...

You're boring!!!

Andrew-Austin
02-01-2010, 04:26 PM
I am pretty sure out of the 100 million Americans that watch the Superbowl there is a wide range of political beliefs.

As well as a bunch of people who don't give a crap about politics - which is their right.

I completely agree that it is their right to not give a crap about politics and philosophy, they are just one of many examples as to why the political system can never work. And these same people still vote, and hold a pretense of wisdom when they do so. Hence the frustration...

KAYA
02-01-2010, 04:28 PM
Did the thought occur to you that not everybody watches sports so not everybody even has a team?

Yes, I am aware of that but I get the impression that this self-righteous youtube preacher is full of it.

MelissaWV
02-01-2010, 04:37 PM
I just think there is a strong correlation between sheepish behavior and sports fans. Some people here may go against that correlation, but it still stands.

Its like people who read TIME magazine and all those tabloid mags you see at grocery store checkouts, chances are the majority of them are sheep. If you read about and are interested in how some celebrity chick accidentally flashed a camera while drunk, its going to be quite bizarre if you know anything about important matters.


Some might say there's a strong correlation between spending a whole shitload of time on the internet and being a socially inept loser. It's another broad brush, and it looks just as dumb when it's used by people on here as it does when used by the powers that be.

You don't "get" sports; that's fine. I don't "get" watching gymnastics, that someone mentioned earlier. Watching a bunch of underaged, undeveloped girls (and boys, but that seems a little less popular) do backflips and swing from poles seems a wee bit disturbing. I'm not drawing any conclusions about those folks, though. Some might be sickos. Some might have been gymnasts when they were younger. Some might just be impressed by what the human body can do before its bones get all rigid :p

Is there anything more "sheep"y than "donate on such and such a day!"? There's an awful lot of hypocrisy out there. Some people enjoy one sort of distraction, and some enjoy another kind. I know this is silly to some, but there are plenty of folks who can fit both political procedures and sports trivia into their brains. They can knit, and know the Preamble to the Constitution by heart. They can win their Fantasy Football league, and donate the proceeds to Debra Medina or Adam Kokesh.

The assertion on here that most folks can't is sad.

BlackTerrel
02-01-2010, 04:41 PM
Some might say there's a strong correlation between spending a whole shitload of time on the internet and being a socially inept loser. It's another broad brush, and it looks just as dumb when it's used by people on here as it does when used by the powers that be.

You don't "get" sports; that's fine. I don't "get" watching gymnastics, that someone mentioned earlier. Watching a bunch of underaged, undeveloped girls (and boys, but that seems a little less popular) do backflips and swing from poles seems a wee bit disturbing. I'm not drawing any conclusions about those folks, though. Some might be sickos. Some might have been gymnasts when they were younger. Some might just be impressed by what the human body can do before its bones get all rigid :p

Is there anything more "sheep"y than "donate on such and such a day!"? There's an awful lot of hypocrisy out there. Some people enjoy one sort of distraction, and some enjoy another kind. I know this is silly to some, but there are plenty of folks who can fit both political procedures and sports trivia into their brains. They can knit, and know the Preamble to the Constitution by heart. They can win their Fantasy Football league, and donate the proceeds to Debra Medina or Adam Kokesh.

The assertion on here that most folks can't is sad.

Very well stated. You nailed it.

The Patriot
02-01-2010, 04:45 PM
I completely agree that it is their right to not give a crap about politics and philosophy, they are just one of many examples as to why the political system can never work. And these same people still vote, and hold a pretense of wisdom when they do so. Hence the frustration...

Maybe that was the reason the founders didn't give everyone the right to vote. They didn't want to put the country in the hands of idiots, just saying. The republic was supposed to protect us from the stupidity/tyranny of the majority.

Andrew-Austin
02-01-2010, 04:46 PM
Some might say there's a strong correlation between spending a whole shitload of time on the internet and being a socially inept loser. It's another broad brush, and it looks just as dumb when it's used by people on here as it does when used by the powers that be.


I agree that spending a lot of time on the internet is strongly correlated with social ineptitude, I might very well fit in to it.



Maybe that was the reason the founders didn't give everyone the right to vote. They didn't want to put the country in the hands of idiots, just saying. The republic was supposed to protect us from the stupidity/tyranny of the majority.

The system "the founders" established was a type of democracy, I know people round these parts don't like to admit that but its true.

There may be certain utilitarian benefits to only allowing property owners to vote in terms of keeping the system going for a little bit longer.... But it still must be discussed that since we have embraced democracy, is there any moral argument as to why the right to vote must exclude everyone who isn't a white male property owner. Otherwise, why even pretend to value equality before the law, we can just overtly flaunt that we have a class of rulers and a class of the ruled. Of course we would have a ruling class either way (restricted voting or universal voting privilege), and there are no utilitarian or moral arguments for the existence of a ruling political class.

The Patriot
02-01-2010, 04:48 PM
I agree that spending a lot of time on the internet is strongly correlated with social ineptitude, I might very well fit in to it.

Than again, it may not be you that is socially inept. It is more likely you are much smarter than most of your peers and they couldn't carry on a sophisticated enough conversation with you. Generally, that seems the case to me. You probably don't hang around people as smart as you that often.

pahs1994
02-01-2010, 05:18 PM
I only got about halfway into that video, but am going to go out on a limb here and say that it sounds like that guy got picked on by the jocks in highschool or something. I love Football and im not a koolaid drinker sheeple. I was even a loser flunky in HS and i guess you can say i was picked on by jocks sometimes, But i got over it and moved on with life. Unlike this Dbag who seems like the wedgie he got in gym class is still up there 20 years later so he has to bash people for enjoying competitive sports to make himself feel better about his own dumb life of wearing tin foil hats and playing on the internetz.
imho

andrewh817
02-01-2010, 05:21 PM
I think the real solution is going to come not from us belittling something people love but bringing to them understanding of how statist policies effect their well being.

We don't need to belittle sports, we need to belittle obsession with sports. Same with any other form of entertainment that's non-educational. Every minute you spend doing one thing is a minute you can't spend doing everything else.

The truth is, most people who are obsessed with entertainment obviously have no purpose in their own lives. If they wish they were rich, instead of trying to earn extra money they'll just watch rich people spend their money. If they wish they were more athletic, instead of training their bodies they'll just watch athletes run around. The irony of both these situations is you're actually spending money to watch others spend your money, and you're losing athletic ability by watching others use theirs.

BlackTerrel
02-01-2010, 05:59 PM
We don't need to belittle sports, we need to belittle obsession with sports. Same with any other form of entertainment that's non-educational. Every minute you spend doing one thing is a minute you can't spend doing everything else.

Being obsessed with anything isn't healthy - I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

Being obsessed with sports and doing nothing but eating doritos on the couch and getting fat all day isn't healthy. But spending 15 hours a day on RPF isn't healthy either.

I say the same thing to people who tell me McDonald's isn't healthy, or marijuana isn't healthy, or alcohol isn't healthy, or soda isn't healthy. I enjoy all four of those things I just mentioned and I have a clean bill of health and my abs compare with the situation. It's all about moderation.

bkreigh
02-01-2010, 10:15 PM
I love these "i dont watch sports so i am better than you" comments.

Its fucking entertainment assholes!!! Just like movies, plays, musicals, etc.

You can bet your bottom dollar that i will be getting shit faced Sunday and that is after i head to daytona to watch the qualifying for the Daytona 500. Followed by an ARCA race and the Bud Shootout...Hell i guess my weekend is full of mind rot. To make it even better i will probably be sober only 24 hours out of the 72.

If it werent for sports there is no way in hell i would be able to stomach the crap the critters in DC pass and talk about. It breaks up the routine and actually gives me something to look forward to.

inibo
02-01-2010, 10:38 PM
:rolleyes:


:rolleyes:


:rolleyes:


.... like everything else on television.... if you don't like it, don't watch it!

.... ........... .......... and fer cryin' out loud, quit knocking my Colts!! LOL

:D

Your Colts?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415UexmbA2L._AA280_.jpg

Go Saints!

Danke
02-01-2010, 10:46 PM
I love these "i dont watch sports so i am better than you" comments.

Its fucking entertainment assholes!!! Just like movies, plays, musicals, etc.

You can bet your bottom dollar that i will be getting shit faced Sunday and that is after i head to daytona to watch the qualifying for the Daytona 500. Followed by an ARCA race and the Bud Shootout...Hell i guess my weekend is full of mind rot. To make it even better i will probably be sober only 24 hours out of the 72.

If it werent for sports there is no way in hell i would be able to stomach the crap the critters in DC pass and talk about. It breaks up the routine and actually gives me something to look forward to.

+1

This thread is fail.

My brother is a double PHD in Anthropology and Linguistics. He has lived and traveled in a majority of the world countries. Yet he knows way more about Football than I do (which I guess isn't saying much, as I only watch some playoffs and Superbowl).

The game is great, just stop taxpayers from subsidizing stadiums, etc.

Liberty_Tree
02-02-2010, 12:53 AM
+1

This thread is fail.

My brother is a double PHD in Anthropology and Linguistics. He has lived and traveled in a majority of the world countries. Yet he knows way more about Football than I do (which I guess isn't saying much, as I only watch some playoffs and Superbowl).

The game is great, just stop taxpayers from subsidizing stadiums, etc.

How is it fail? Mark makes a good point. I don't think it's that he hates Sports but talks about THOSE people whose life constantly revolves around Sports and care more about Entertainment than their own Freedoms.

''Two things only the people anxiously desire--bread and circuses.''


Juvenal (c.60 - c.140)

KCIndy
02-02-2010, 12:53 AM
Your Colts?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415UexmbA2L._AA280_.jpg

Go Saints!


:rolleyes:
Aw, c'mon! That was a quarter century ago!! And Baltimore DID end up getting the Browns, and even got to rename the team!!

:)

Joking aside, I'm looking forward to a great game. I really am a Colts fan, but I can remember the Saints - playing with Archie Manning, Peyton's dad - losing some really heartbreaking games back in the day. If it were *anyone* but the Colts playing against them, I would be cheering for the Saints....

May the best team win!

Anti Federalist
02-02-2010, 07:23 AM
Great. Wonderful. The guy in the video wasn't talking to you then. There's nothing wrong with watching TV occasionally either, but it's sad when more Americans can name cartoon characters than the can the 5 freedoms in the bill of rights. This is/was a commentary on America in general. Not a direct assault on everyone who ever watches a football game.

That^^^ +1776

It's not about sports, specifically, but being more concerned and involved in a game rather than what's real.

If your house is in order, then no problem, hell, I like watching SpongeBob with the kids. A good movie or distraction is fun and neccessary.

But when a grown man can tell you what the Boston Red Sox batting averages for the last five year's starters are, but can't name a single "bill of right" or find Iraq on a world map, then there's something seriously wrong. (True story, my ex BiL, but he'd tell what his opinion was, that's for sure.)

Those are the people I'm talking about.

And if they never got within 1000 yards of a voting booth, then I wouldn't care in the least. But since they do, that's puts them up in my shit now, and that's a problem.

Reason
02-02-2010, 10:02 AM
That^^^ +1776

It's not about sports, specifically, but being more concerned and involved in a game rather than what's real.

If your house is in order, then no problem, hell, I like watching SpongeBob with the kids. A good movie or distraction is fun and neccessary.

But when a grown man can tell you what the Boston Red Sox batting averages for the last five year's starters are, but can't name a single "bill of right" or find Iraq on a world map, then there's something seriously wrong. (True story, my ex BiL, but he'd tell what his opinion was, that's for sure.)

Those are the people I'm talking about.

And if they never got within 1000 yards of a voting booth, then I wouldn't care in the least. But since they do, that's puts them up in my shit now, and that's a problem.

Indeed!

Reason
02-02-2010, 10:05 AM
YouTube - Packers Fan Announces He Will Return To Drinking For Another Season (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG6qB1X9Y2k)

MelissaWV
02-02-2010, 01:10 PM
If your house is in order, then no problem, hell, I like watching SpongeBob with the kids. A good movie or distraction is fun and neccessary.

And that'd make sense... except...


We don't need to belittle sports, we need to belittle obsession with sports. Same with any other form of entertainment that's non-educational. Every minute you spend doing one thing is a minute you can't spend doing everything else.

The truth is, most people who are obsessed with entertainment obviously have no purpose in their own lives. If they wish they were rich, instead of trying to earn extra money they'll just watch rich people spend their money. If they wish they were more athletic, instead of training their bodies they'll just watch athletes run around. The irony of both these situations is you're actually spending money to watch others spend your money, and you're losing athletic ability by watching others use theirs.

I wonder what that person's opinion is on "obsession"...


Being obsessed with anything isn't healthy - I don't think anyone would disagree with that.


If it's this, then a whole lot of people on these forums are very, very unhealthy.

The guy on the video doesn't seem so healthy to me, either. He seems to have anger-management issues. He could have been volunteering his time to help a liberty candidate, but instead he's ranting and raving online via another YouTube video. He seems, instead, to take issue with a bunch of "steroid-using muscleheads" (Hmm that does NOT sound like he's making a distinction to me). I like how he suggests we could do our taxes instead of watching the game. "Show me the law!" where is it? No? Oh wait, he hates football players, so he's okay!

Sure there are a bunch of guys running around a field who sponsor charitable events and such, but they all use steroids, right? I think you're thinking of baseball, and even then, it's not everyone.

I suppose this is the wrong time, while we're talking about obsession and lack of productivity, to point out that Mr. "Get Up Off Your Couch" has almost 1,000 hits on YouTube when I search for "Mark Dice"? :p

Reason
02-02-2010, 02:48 PM
YouTube - Super Bowl boycott covered by CBS news (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG8TlWJcqCE)

RyanRSheets
02-02-2010, 03:11 PM
I bet someone read the title of this thread and just started screaming at the top of their lungs.

Reason
02-02-2010, 04:15 PM
I bet someone read the title of this thread and just started screaming at the top of their lungs.

:D

MelissaWV
02-02-2010, 06:29 PM
I bet someone read the title of this thread and just started screaming at the top of their lungs.

I did for a moment, but only because it should be "The Super Bowl" and I am used to seeing "Cancelled" (though "canceled" is also right, it just ... looks ... wrong!).

Captain Bryan
02-03-2010, 12:40 AM
So....
Having fun is not allowed.
Only liberty.
Quite ironic, if you think about it.

Archie
02-03-2010, 01:19 AM
What the hell is so wrong with enjoying a sporting event that has huge public inflated point spreads and using that to your advantage to cashing in a ticket ? Not to mention its a great time to hang around with your mates drinking some nice cold beers and eating some great food? Oh gee now that I come to think about it, I think Im going to not particapte in such a social event because it just Seems So Evil ,stupid and Awful ,and Im going to spend more time alone in my little bunker LOL!!!

Mark Dice will probably be watching the superbowl after some nice mate invites him to it this sunday LOL!!!:D

PlzPeopleWakeUp
02-03-2010, 02:24 AM
I love Big Brother.

BlackTerrel
02-03-2010, 02:40 AM
What the hell is so wrong with enjoying a sporting event that has huge public inflated point spreads and using that to your advantage to cashing in a ticket ?

Who are you betting on?

MelissaWV
02-03-2010, 07:48 AM
So....
Having fun is not allowed.
Only liberty.
Quite ironic, if you think about it.

No, you're allowed to "have fun," but only educational fun, and only a certain amount. If you have more fun than that, then you're a caveman.

American Idol
02-03-2010, 08:40 AM
Mark Dice is right. The Stooper Bowl is stupid.

Now March Madness on the other hand...is life or death. :D

MelissaWV
02-03-2010, 08:44 AM
Fooseball is the devil.

Mama also says alligators is ornery cuz they got all those teeth and no toothbrush.

Archie
02-03-2010, 06:37 PM
Who are you betting on?


Right now The line is only -4 for the Colts with some books so for sure There worth the SU win or even on the spread. But by gameday if the colts become -8 point favs (which Id be surprised to see) then I will indeed sprinkle on the saints to cover the spread. The Real play I like in this game is for the total to hit 57.5 atleast by game time in some books or even a flat 58 and then I will have no prob pulling the trigger on the under if I can get that number even 57.5 is a good enough number for me to grab the under play.

So my official play for the Superbowl is bet the Under 58 or 57.5 on the total.

and if you like the Colts to win SU you may get some decent value right now at them being -4.5 favs. From what it looks like alot of Sharps have Steamed the line for the Saints predicting that the public will fall in love with the "saints story" again and may move the line even more leading up to gametime who knows. But I really dont care as My big play will be to try and grab a total of 58 and bet the under.

Vessol
02-03-2010, 07:09 PM
I've honestly been socially ostracized because someone asked me about a game the previous night and I respond with "Uh, I don't watch sports". They give me a weird look and then suddenly I'm not a "man" and no one speaks to me at work, ah well doesn't bother me I prefer working without distractions.

It's crazy how obsessed some people are obsessed with sports. They memorize stat after stat after stat. They watch these moronic pre-game and post-game shows with these ex-muscle heads pulling shit out of their asses.

The games have so many rules and regulations that they are so stale and boring, I find rugby and hockey usually the only sports I enjoy watching somewhat. Basketball is stale too and soccer as well, but football is the worst of them all IMO.

Just my 2 cents. Awesome videos, and sports really are the opiate of the people.

They draw in and appease mens tribal instincts so that they think they are going somewhere, yet they slowly loose more and more rights and dont give a shit as long as their team is playing. Prolefeed at its best. It's social manipulation.

BlackTerrel
02-03-2010, 07:11 PM
Right now The line is only -4 for the Colts with some books so for sure There worth the SU win or even on the spread. But by gameday if the colts become -8 point favs (which Id be surprised to see) then I will indeed sprinkle on the saints to cover the spread. The Real play I like in this game is for the total to hit 57.5 atleast by game time in some books or even a flat 58 and then I will have no prob pulling the trigger on the under if I can get that number even 57.5 is a good enough number for me to grab the under play.

So my official play for the Superbowl is bet the Under 58 or 57.5 on the total.

and if you like the Colts to win SU you may get some decent value right now at them being -4.5 favs. From what it looks like alot of Sharps have Steamed the line for the Saints predicting that the public will fall in love with the "saints story" again and may move the line even more leading up to gametime who knows. But I really dont care as My big play will be to try and grab a total of 58 and bet the under.

Interesting. I really want to get into this stuff but haven't figured out the smart play yet. I've lost thousands of fake money. Everytime I think I have a formula it works for a short while and then doesn't - luckily I haven't bet real money yet.

What do you think of "Peyton Manning will score a touchdown in the second quarter" at -125. Bill Simmons was touting that bet on his podcast.

Son of Detroit
02-03-2010, 07:12 PM
I tell ya, if it weren't for sports, I would have gone crazy a long while ago. I need something to keep me sane.

Sports are my anti-crazy.

Reason
02-03-2010, 07:13 PM
I've honestly been socially ostracized because someone asked me about a game the previous night and I respond with "Uh, I don't watch sports". They give me a weird look and then suddenly I'm not a "man" and no one speaks to me at work, ah well doesn't bother me I prefer working without distractions.

It's crazy how obsessed some people are obsessed with sports. They memorize stat after stat after stat. They watch these moronic pre-game and post-game shows with these ex-muscle heads pulling shit out of their asses.

The games have so many rules and regulations that they are so stale and boring, I find rugby and hockey usually the only sports I enjoy watching somewhat. Basketball is stale too and soccer as well, but football is the worst of them all IMO.

Just my 2 cents. Awesome videos, and sports really are the opiate of the people.

They draw in and appease mens tribal instincts so that they think they are going somewhere, yet they slowly loose more and more rights and dont give a shit as long as their team is playing. Prolefeed at its best. It's social manipulation.

I see the exact same thing happen all the time. It's disturbing to see how people react when they encounter a person that says they don't watch sports. It almost always results in the sports watcher bashing them in one way or another.

Vessol
02-03-2010, 07:17 PM
I tell ya, if it weren't for sports, I would have gone crazy a long while ago. I need something to keep me sane.

Sports are my anti-crazy.

I can understand that, music and classic video games are the same for me. And you do need a form of escapism. But the amount of attention that these things have taken away from people. They wake up, go to work, talk about sports/video games/pop or movie stars, go home and turn on the TV to watch the same stuff or go fire up a game and play that mindlessly till they go to sleep, then wake up and do the same.
I can get in conversations about games often(though I play a lot of older games most people never played back in the day) and then I try bringing up something about the Federal Reserve. I always try to sneak little stuff in there. Like I go on about how shitty our pay is(I'm a cook at a local pizza parlor, student as well) and that leads to the economy and then I can bring up the Federal Reserve and Austrian economics. Sometimes I'm successful, sometimes I just get dumb awkward responses and I have to change the subject. But gotten a few people to look more into it(with me burning them dvds and printing up stuff), even let an older man whom is a driver for our place borrow my copy of End the Fed and he really enjoyed it.

Vessol
02-03-2010, 07:30 PM
I'll leave this here too.

YouTube - How TELEVISION & SPORTS Are Being Used To MANIPULATE & DESTROY The REPUBLIC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZmP-TYy2zE)

Archie
02-03-2010, 07:40 PM
Interesting. I really want to get into this stuff but haven't figured out the smart play yet. I've lost thousands of fake money. Everytime I think I have a formula it works for a short while and then doesn't - luckily I haven't bet real money yet.

What do you think of "Peyton Manning will score a touchdown in the second quarter" at -125. Bill Simmons was touting that bet on his podcast.

Hey Mate your doing the right thing playing with "fake money" If you want to be a good sports handicapper it comes down to 2 things in my opinion first is "money management" which is I think the most important of all and then there is "line shopping" getting the best odds for the pick your making whether its from a local bookie,State runbook,Vegas,or offshore, getting the best odds for your buck is VERY important. IT dont matter who wins or loses the game as much as it does what kind of a deal you got on your "odds/line" Thats the key. Handicapping the actual game is very good to but not as important as those other steps .

As for your question about that props bet. with not much research it seems a good bet for sure,another one for the props card this sunday would be the completions of the QB I like manning to go over 24 or even 25 completions so My magic number im looking to get is 23.5 for manning but I will take the 24.5 as well for the over.

Sacks is also a nice prop bet if you get inflated numbers like say 5.5 for sacks on some dumb state run book LOL!!! I love playing fumbles over as a prop as the over is usually the "dog" pick and its comes in more times then people would think it does .

Anyway just keep trying to learn to manipulate the odds and you will do okay. A sports handicapper's best friend is the avg joe who make up the "public" as its these types of people us sharps ride to the bank when they inflate a point spread/line:D

Do you check out sites like Covers at all? There is some gems of info on those types of sites that have forums where people give some great insight into the games for free. And the most important weapon of all for you to have is the live Lines for atleast 5-6 books that gives you some great perspective of some value in a game you like.

Cheers and BOL mate!!!

BlackTerrel
02-03-2010, 08:21 PM
Thanks Archie. Don't plan on quitting my day job but I love experimenting with this stuff. Best of luck come Sunday.


Anyway just keep trying to learn to manipulate the odds and you will do okay. A sports handicapper's best friend is the avg joe who make up the "public" as its these types of people us sharps ride to the bank when they inflate a point spread/line:D

This is what I've always heard. The public always loses over time - so as long as I go against general consensus (if it's moving a line) I should win in the long run.

Archie
02-03-2010, 11:32 PM
Thanks Archie. Don't plan on quitting my day job but I love experimenting with this stuff. Best of luck come Sunday.



This is what I've always heard. The public always loses over time - so as long as I go against general consensus (if it's moving a line) I should win in the long run.

I sent you a PM mate talking about this stuff that isnt so much related to the thread.

squarepusher
02-03-2010, 11:43 PM
oh no ban sports! If people want to watch sports, let them by all means

Reason
02-06-2010, 11:41 AM
//

Archie
02-07-2010, 10:02 PM
Right now The line is only -4 for the Colts with some books so for sure There worth the SU win or even on the spread. But by gameday if the colts become -8 point favs (which Id be surprised to see) then I will indeed sprinkle on the saints to cover the spread. The Real play I like in this game is for the total to hit 57.5 atleast by game time in some books or even a flat 58 and then I will have no prob pulling the trigger on the under if I can get that number even 57.5 is a good enough number for me to grab the under play.

So my official play for the Superbowl is bet the Under 58 or 57.5 on the total.

and if you like the Colts to win SU you may get some decent value right now at them being -4.5 favs. From what it looks like alot of Sharps have Steamed the line for the Saints predicting that the public will fall in love with the "saints story" again and may move the line even more leading up to gametime who knows. But I really dont care as My big play will be to try and grab a total of 58 and bet the under.
I hope others were able to Cash in on my Big super bowl play being the under 58 or 57.5 on the total. The game ended well below the total and the under was indeed a great play just as I predicted.

Congrats on anyone who tailed my super bowl Under play:D

WaltM
02-07-2010, 10:05 PM
how is his rant different than leftists who hate capitalism and freedom?

Reason
02-08-2010, 01:30 AM
how is his rant different than leftists who hate capitalism and freedom?

/facepalm

Danke
02-10-2010, 10:23 PM
A man had 50 yard line tickets for the Super Bowl. As he sits down, a man comes down and asks if anyone is sitting in the seat next to him.

"No," he says, "The seat is empty."

"This is incredible," said the man. "Who in their right mind would have a seat like this for the Super Bowl, the biggest sporting event in the world, and not use it?"

He says, "Well, actually, the seat belongs to me. I was supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first Super bowl we haven't been to together since we got married in 1967."

"Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. That's terrible. But couldn't you find someone else-a friend or relative,

or even a neighbor to take the seat?".

The man shakes his head.

"No, they're all at the funeral."

WaltM
02-10-2010, 10:28 PM
/facepalm

sounds exactly like Tyler Durden & Leo Strauss