Alex Jones on air right now, entire show is about Glenn Beck.

[haaaylee]

listen @ http://www.prisonplanet.com/

[pacelli]

Ratings going down or something?

[haaaylee]

who knows, but he clearly does not like Beck :D

[pacelli]

Ok, well he's mentioned Beck once in the last 20 minutes. I can't handle listening to practically the exact same show & rants I heard back in November, with different news stories substituted in.

Please let us know when he offers anything new.

[MRoCkEd]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

[hugolp]

I've never listened to Alex Jones live (only some YT clips) and I have to say I find it fun. I am taking what he says with a grain of salt, but I kind of agree with the core of what he says and its good entertaiment.

[jclay2]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

You must have missed his endorsement of Perry in Texas. Not to mention beck is probably having an orgasm for brown as I type.

[BenIsForRon]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

I'd say Dylan Ratigan is more of an ally. Beck just confuses the shit out of his viewers so they come out hating Obama and muslims but they don't know why.

[AuH20]

I'd say Dylan Ratigan is more of an ally. Beck just confuses the shit out of his viewers so they come out hating Obama and muslims but they don't know why.

However, Ratigan is an unapologetic disciple of the New Deal. I don't see how anyone who loves the New Deal is really our friend in the end. Most of the damage we have experienced is a direct result of the New Deal expansion of the federal government.

[AuH20]

who knows, but he clearly does not like Beck :D

He never liked William Cooper either. Alex is very defensive about his market share. ;)

[cajuncocoa]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

Beck is waking people up to the fact that both the GOP and Dems have failed us. But when it comes down between Ds and Rs, he is going to go with the R every time.

That said, I don't mind the fact he IS getting huge ratings telling FOX viewers that the Bush administration has a very big part of the problem! ;)

[RM918]

Beck is waking people up to the fact that both the GOP and Dems have failed us. But when it comes down between Ds and Rs, he is going to go with the R every time.

That said, I don't mind the fact he IS getting huge ratings telling FOX viewers that the Bush administration has a very big part of the problem! ;)

Oh yeah. They've all failed us, except for these 'new' Republicans who are flawless and great and not at all like the older ones! They've totally changed! Really!

[LibertyEagle]

he never liked william cooper either. Alex is very defensive about his market share. ;)

bingo.

[jmdrake]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

And Judge Napolitano and Tucker Carlson are Swiss cheese? Beck did everything in his power to wreck Ron Paul 2008. Sure he's being a little helpful because we have some common interests. But Rachael Maddow is at times helpful and at times against us too. And come to think of it I never heard Rachael Maddow attack Ron Paul like Beck did.

[jmdrake]

Listening to Alex Jones now. He played a clip where Glenn Beck claimed 9/11 truthers might try to kill Obama. All the Alex Jones haters in this thread owe him an apology! There is NO EXCUSE for Glenn Beck to viciously attack people who have never done anything violent the way he did! Alex Jones might not be perfect, but Glenn Beck is pure scum.

[LibertyEagle]

Why is this being made a personal deal? Why should we be trusting beck OR jones? They should only interest us as far as their helpfulness in getting our message out.

They are media tools. Nothing more and nothing less.

[jmdrake]

Why is this being made a personal deal? Why should we be trusting beck OR jones? They should only interest us as far as their helpfulness in getting our message out.

They are media tools. Nothing more and nothing less.

When someone like Beck calls Ron Paul supporters terrorists or says some other group is out to assassinate Obama he makes it personal. Sometimes Keith Olberman is "helpful" in getting certain messages out too. He's still a douche.

[ramallamamama]

Listen through to 1:55 it'll bake your head.

YouTube - beck-20100120-uberleft.flv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEKfuy3zgBM)

[Volitzer]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

:D You're kidding right ??

[Volitzer]

http://www.prisonplanet.com

http://infowarrior.infowars.com/

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/

http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php

If it aint Alex Jones or Jason Bermas everything other show is suspect.

[rpfan2008]

He never liked William Cooper either. Alex is very defensive about his market share. ;)

NONSENSE!!

Alex is not there to capture the market, but to herd the sheeple amongst us.

And he hate Cooper because he exposed him big time for wat he is. There is no argument about it. The establishment doesn't hate conspiracy theorists, but sane and reasonable ones of them.

YouTube - William Cooper's Expose' On Alex Jones Y2K (Whole thing) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r8rFNDh9WQ)

[rpfan2008]

http://www.prisonplanet.com

http://infowarrior.infowars.com/

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/

http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php

If it aint Alex Jones or Jason Bermas everything other show is suspect.


See my sig and read a few of those books. Alex Jones is poison.

[ramallamamama]

If it aint Alex Jones or Jason Bermas everything other show is suspect.

Actually Sir, I believe those two kneel to the same masters as Beck.

[rpfan2008]

^ Exactly.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Alex.Jones/#JonesisaZionistDenier

[Derek Johnson]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.


Ooof!

Andrew Napolitano?

[MRoCkEd]

Ooof!

Andrew Napolitano?
True, but Glenn Beck has his own show with millions of viewers. The fact that he lets Judge Nap fill in for him is a big plus.

[Immortal Technique]

YouTube - Glenn Beck Says 911 Truth Is Going To Kill Barack Obama (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-75fG6NqDg)

The Alex Jones Show Jan.20, 2010
Beck's Show Airing Date Today Jan.20, 2010


:p

I agree with Jones Beck is a piece of crap

[sofia]

True, but Glenn Beck has his own show with millions of viewers. The fact that he lets Judge Nap fill in for him is a big plus.

milions of viewers ...who learn some good stuff from Beck....but then are led to vote for the Palins and the Perrys...

thats the poison pill

[Pistis]

Glen Beck = scum

I can't believe that some long-time posters here are taken in by Beck's overtures to the libertarian movement despite all the harm he's done. I can't stand watching the guy -- his insincerity and wolf-in-sheep's-clothing smarminess just drips through the screen. He's scamming his audience, he knows he's scamming them and he absolutely loves it.

It may appear he's helping us out now, but he's a poisoned chalice that'll just end up co-opting the movement and advancing the false left-right paradigm by leading his less-knowledgeable audience into neo-con heaven. The guy will viciously stab Ron Paul and the libertarian movement in the back (again) in a split-second by undermining libertarians like Medina/Schiff/RandPaul and supporting 'mainstream' Republican party candidates instead -- he's doing it to Medina already. Anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously naive and gullible but they'll learn in November, that's for sure.


As for Alex, he woke me up to Ron Paul and the libertarian/liberty movement. I don't listen to him much nowadays but I appreciate his style because that's what shocked me into action and I think there's room for all personalities out there. For those that love criticizing him, I'd like to see them walk in his shoes for a fraction of the 14 years he has consistently been doing what he's doing before they start spouting their criticisms -- no one's perfect but he's already done more good for the liberty movement than most will do in a lifetime.

[sofia]

Glen Beck = scum

I can't believe that some long-time posters here are taken in by Beck's overtures to the libertarian movement despite all the harm he's done. I can't stand watching the guy -- his insincerity and wolf-in-sheep's-clothing smarminess just drips through the screen. He's scamming his audience, he knows he's scamming them and he absolutely loves it.

It may appear he's helping us out now, but he's a poisoned chalice that'll just end up co-opting the movement and advancing the false left-right paradigm by leading his less-knowledgeable audience into neo-con heaven. The guy will viciously stab Ron Paul and the libertarian movement in the back (again) in a split-second by undermining libertarians like Medina/Schiff/RandPaul and supporting 'mainstream' Republican party candidates instead -- he's doing it to Medina already. Anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously naive and gullible but they'll learn in November, that's for sure.


As for Alex, he woke me up to Ron Paul and the libertarian/liberty movement. I don't listen to him much nowadays but I appreciate his style because that's what shocked me into action and I think there's room for all personalities out there. For those that love criticizing him, I'd like to see them walk in his shoes for a fraction of the 14 years he has consistently been doing what he's doing before they start spouting their criticisms -- no one's perfect but he's already done more good for the liberty movement than most will do in a lifetime.


As for Beck....NEVER trust a man who cries in order to make a point....and NEVER trust a man who openly wears his religious faith on his sleeve. Those are ALWAYS the sure signs of a manipulator.

Beck is a white trash alcohollic LIAR who probably works for the CIA. I smell his BS very clearly now.

As for Alex...here's a guy who be as big as Beck or Hannity if he wanted to. The fact that he takes certain stands...and lets his movies be distributed for free on the Internet.....impresses me greatly.

AJ is the real deal.

[Dieseler]

Beck has some serious potential due to the tremendous backlash against the full throttle, balls to the wall assault of the Obama administration.
That was quite an assault he made on 911 truthers just now.
He would have you rounded up, make no mistake about it.
Beck has the potential to become this guy.
YouTube - big brother is watching you,hymne d'océania (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemHnIf_cEU&feature=related)

[rpfan2008]

Glen Beck = scum

As for Alex, he woke me up to Ron Paul and the libertarian/liberty movement. I don't listen to him much nowadays but I appreciate his style because that's what shocked me into action and I think there's room for all personalities out there. For those that love criticizing him, I'd like to see them walk in his shoes for a fraction of the 14 years he has consistently been doing what he's doing before they start spouting their criticisms -- no one's perfect but he's already done more good for the liberty movement than most will do in a lifetime.

Alex Jones (http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Alex.Jones/) = scum

As for Beck, he woke me up to Ron Paul and the conservative/liberty movement. I don't listen to him much nowadays but I appreciate his style because that's what lol-ed me into action and I think there's room for all personalities out there. For those that love criticizing him, I'd like to see them walk in his shoes for a fraction of the few months he has consistently been doing what he's doing before they start spouting their criticisms -- no one's perfect but he's already done more good for the liberty movement than most will do in a lifetime.


On a serious note, do you have any idea what Alex Jones is hiding from us?
Just listen to his Y2K broadcast he's a complete fed shill. He fills your heart with fear rather than encouragement. He's there to paint a small group of people as invincible and beyond reproach. He paints real anti-zionists as anti-semites (http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Alex.Jones/AJ_2009-08-20ziorant.mp3) and neo-nazis and tries to discredit them whereas anti-zionists hate the nazis and neo-nazis to the core. Do you know that Bollyn is one of the lead zio-exposers of our times and only harm done to him so far is his wrist broken for a couple of months, and alex jones wants us to believe that they are preparing to fire hellfire missiles on your house's GPS co-ordinates. Alex Jones is psyc programming, he hasn't woken up people to liberty movement but courting them until the real perpetrators become successful in bringing out the war they want.

Do you think Alex doesn't know about documentations like these (http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/).

[Pistis]

Beck is a white trash alcohollic LIAR who probably works for the CIA. I smell his BS very clearly now.



I agree, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Beck is a fully paid-up, on-the-books CIA/FBI agent. Just like Hal Turner who was confirmed to be on the FBI payroll in recent court-case disclosures.

The FBI described Hal Turner's covert intelligence work as irreplaceable and Beck's modus operandi is exactly similar -- truths and half-truths, massive histrionics, constantly switching sides, undermining patriots and then apologising and then doing it again, making wild controversial statements just for the storm it will create and a very poor grasp of the libertarian ideals he claims to believe in.

The guy is a transparent joke and I just can't believe ppl can't see that.

[Romulus]

As for Beck....NEVER trust a man who cries in order to make a point....and NEVER trust a man who openly wears his religious faith on his sleeve. Those are ALWAYS the sure signs of a manipulator.

Beck is a white trash alcoholic LIAR who probably works for the CIA. I smell his BS very clearly now.

As for Alex...here's a guy who be as big as Beck or Hannity if he wanted to. The fact that he takes certain stands...and lets his movies be distributed for free on the Internet.....impresses me greatly.

AJ is the real deal.

^ I agree. And the fact that AJ basically worships Ron Paul and his ideals speaks volumes.

[rpfan2008]

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
— Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Try to find out who was financing Lenin (and others like him) to understand what I'm talking about. Also research on "permanent revolution" , "revolutionary jews" "the transfer agreement" etc etc.

or go here (http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/index.php)

[Immortal Technique]

Alex Jones (http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Alex.Jones/) = scum

As for Beck, he woke me up to Ron Paul and the conservative/liberty movement. I don't listen to him much nowadays but I appreciate his style because that's what lol-ed me into action and I think there's room for all personalities out there. For those that love criticizing him, I'd like to see them walk in his shoes for a fraction of the few months he has consistently been doing what he's doing before they start spouting their criticisms -- no one's perfect but he's already done more good for the liberty movement than most will do in a lifetime.


On a serious note, do you have any idea what Alex Jones is hiding from us?
Just listen to his Y2K broadcast he's a complete fed shill. He fills your heart with fear rather than encouragement. He's there to paint a small group of people as invincible and beyond reproach. He paints real anti-zionists as anti-semites (http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Alex.Jones/AJ_2009-08-20ziorant.mp3) and neo-nazis and tries to discredit them whereas anti-zionists hate the nazis and neo-nazis to the core. Do you know that Bollyn is one of the lead zio-exposers of our times and only harm done to him so far is his wrist broken for a couple of months, and alex jones wants us to believe that they are preparing to fire hellfire missiles on your house's GPS co-ordinates. Alex Jones is psyc programming, he hasn't woken up people to liberty movement but courting them until the real perpetrators become successful in bringing out the war they want.

Do you think Alex doesn't know about documentations like these (http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/).

Alex Jones name was mentioned....., quick mention y2k...


Gimme a break, if you listened to that full broadcast that night and not just Bill Coopers tirade, you will find he was doing pretty much what hes doing these days, he was reading news articles and they kept flooding in during the show and this is what he was trying to report.
A lot of news organizations that night got duped on a lot of stories.
Hell the government was telling you to buy duct tape and plastic in order to prepare for y2k.
A lot of crazy stuff was going on at the time.

Cooper and Jones were on bad terms so Cooper decided to present Alex's show the way he did.
Not defending Jones on his coverage, but he was a lot more inexperienced at the time.
All i know is i don't put trust in any one, i take in all the information i can from a multitude of sources and i form my own reasoning and judgment for my self about any given topic.
I dont need Glenn Beck Or ALex jones to do my reasoning for me

[Pistis]

I don't understand the obsession that Alex-haters have with zionist/semitic related issues to the exclusion of all else -- I just find it really weird and crazy. While I understand the issues and I think that Alex deals with it fairly, I'm certainly not going to get into it here.

As for 9/11, i don't consider myself an all-out truther because I prefer to expend my energies on issues that unite rather than those that divide. Having said that, I think Alex does a good job on the topic and does well to stay clear of the unprovable, non-credible stuff out there.

I'm willing to give Beck the benefit of the doubt after he's been on the side of liberty for at least 5 years, consistently supporting and promoting liberty-related politicians like Ron Paul and issues like End-the-Fed and demolition of the false right-left paradigm.

[Alawn]

Cooper was a complete psychopath. He was obsessed with aliens. He thought aliens ruled the world. He even talked about how aliens killed Jesus. People worship Cooper like a cult and always try to attack Jones because Cooper hated him.

YouTube - William Cooper - Aliens, U.F.O.s, Secret Societies, & The N.W.O. 1 Of 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBYVTmXDgCo&feature=PlayList&p=1AF366B9CA099659&index=4)

[rpfan2008]

I don't understand the obsession that Alex-haters have with zionist/semitic related issues to the exclusion of all else.

Then you are a shit-cake. :)

US has no other problem to deal with other then the wars (beginning from WWI upto the Afghanistan war) it has to fight for this issue. All of US worries are created by this very issue and you have "no idea"....and you think you are "informed" ? :eek:

[rpfan2008]

Cooper was a complete psychopath. He was obsessed with aliens. He thought aliens ruled the world. He even talked about how aliens killed Jesus. People worship Cooper like a cult and always try to attack Jones because Cooper hated him.

No I don't worship Cooper, Alex Jones is the topic here.
There is no denying that Alex Jones did what Cooper was accusing him of doing in this particular broadcast.

[jclay2]

For all you beck lovers out there, you do know that he supported John McCain. My gosh, what is with this. We might as well start the Brown/Palin threads. There is way too much love for neocons and big government tools right now.

[Immortal Technique]

No I don't worship Cooper, Alex Jones is the topic here.
There is no denying that Alex Jones did what Cooper was accusing him of doing in this particular broadcast.

http://billcooperdisinfo.webs.com/

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

[InterestedParticipant]

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
— Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Try to find out who was financing Lenin (and others like him) to understand what I'm talking about. Also research on "permanent revolution" , "revolutionary jews" "the transfer agreement" etc etc.

or go here (http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/index.php)
Glad to see some here are seeing the media cointelpro for what it is.

But I just had a look at that site you are referring to and I would be careful that you are not getting yourself caught-up in another trap of cointel manufactured vectors. I think you might want to listen to Marvin Antelman before you go too far down the hole that that site is sending you....


To join the conspiracy is heresy, and that Jews who do so are immediately and automatically excommunicated from Judaism

[purplechoe]

True, but Glenn Beck has his own show with millions of viewers. The fact that he lets Judge Nap fill in for him is a big plus.

"I don't agree with Ron Paul on everything, not by a LONG shot"

MRoCkEd - I always thought there was something rather ***** about this guy... it seems like this person has no personality... people like that worry me... there is something missing inside...

[purplechoe]

Even though I post some of Alex's videos on here when he has an interesting guest or someone from the liberty movement on, I'm a not a big fan of his. It's his delivery... with that said, Alex has done way more for truth & liberty then Beck ever has and ever will. The guy is a classic example of controlled opposition and if you don't get that fact, you still have a lot of studying to do about the world which you inhabit...

I'm sure Ron Paul would agree with me on that point.

[BlackTerrel]

^ Exactly.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Alex.Jones/#JonesisaZionistDenier

Great website... just some of the headlines on the front page...


"Where Do The Zionist Jews Live? Find Out And Be Ready To Act To Stop This Future From Ever Taking Place!!!!!!"

"The Brainwashing That Zionist Jews Go Through May Be Irreversible. So What Then Do We Do With These People?"

"THE WORLD MUST DECLARE WAR ON THE MONSTER STATE OF ISRAEL!"

"Zionist Jews spreading sin and sickness through America like a wildfire"

"Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews created it and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire."

All written in big bold scary font. Seems like a solid, unbiased source as always :D

[BlackTerrel]

Why is this being made a personal deal? Why should we be trusting beck OR jones? They should only interest us as far as their helpfulness in getting our message out.

They are media tools. Nothing more and nothing less.

Exactly. I don't understand why people are so impassioned by some television host.

[Dieseler]

So did Alex call Glenn a douche bag today?
If so, that would explain why Glenn was so venomously hostile to 911 Truthers and tossed them into the same bag with Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Che today.

[jmdrake]

So did Alex call Glenn a douche bag today?
If so, that would explain why Glenn was so venomously hostile to 911 Truthers and tossed them into the same bag with Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Che today.

Reverse order. Glenn attacked truthers first. A.J. was responding.

[Dieseler]

Reverse order. Glenn attacked truthers first. A.J. was responding.

Ahh, so that would explain why Glenn was so venomously hostile to 911 Truthers and tossed them into the same bag with Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Che today.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I don't know if Beck is controlled opposition or just in it for the money (cornering a market that attracts both conservatives and libertarians), but what pushed me over the edge into not trusting him was this:

YouTube - Glenn Beck's Fake Crying Photoshoot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9j_SWbpOH0)

Beck is a phony who acts like a goofball. His tears are fake, how can you not question if the whole thing is an act? It makes people who share certain liberty beliefs look like kooks. Alex Jones sometimes has the same effect with his over-the-top rants. However, Jones' rage seems uncontrolled and genuine. Beck's crying and persona seems like carefully contrived acting. You guess as to the motive...I don't know. I would be equally disgusted if a video of Alex Jones practicing his rants in the mirror before his radio show ever turned up.

[Dieseler]

There are a few things that I can honestly say about all of this.

1.) I AM about as Right Wing and Conservative as a person can get.
2.) Without Alex Jones, I would have not heard about Ron Paul.
3.) William Milton Cooper was a Patriot and Alex Jones sensationalizes A LOT.
4.) I do not believe the official story on 911 because I'm not fucking stupid.
5.) Glenn Beck is a sensationalist piece of trash, douche bag tool.

See number 1 Glenn and guess which finger on both hands I'm pointing your way right now. I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

[angelatc]

Beck is a nut job. Remember when he wanted to French Kiss Ron Paul one night, then trashed him on the radio the very next day?

He is doing the same thing with Brown, if what I read earlier in the thread is accurate and Beck was beyond happy that Brown won.

His radio show - different Beck.
"I want a chastity belt on this man," Beck said. "I want his every move watched in Washington. I don't trust this guy. This one could end with a dead intern."

"A dead intern?" co-host Pat Gray asked. "I wouldn't go that far."

Later on in the segment, Beck added, "I'm just sayin', congratulations, now let's monitor him, let's put an ankle bracelet on him, let's know where he is at all times." http://rawstory.com/2010/01/beck-rips-brown-could-end-with-dead-intern/

[InterestedParticipant]

Guys like Beck and Alex Jones are nut jobs for a reason. They are inserted into the media to co-opt opposition vectors and then discredit them, along with all the people who support those vectors.


It's how the game is played. Rationalizing their antics will not provide answers. Instead, try to understand why they perpetrate these antics and why this is a systemic issue and not a personal one.

[Baptist]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

ROFL.
/sigh

[Baptist]

Glen Beck = scum

I can't believe that some long-time posters here are taken in by Beck's overtures to the libertarian movement despite all the harm he's done. I can't stand watching the guy -- his insincerity and wolf-in-sheep's-clothing smarminess just drips through the screen. He's scamming his audience, he knows he's scamming them and he absolutely loves it.

It may appear he's helping us out now, but he's a poisoned chalice that'll just end up co-opting the movement and advancing the false left-right paradigm by leading his less-knowledgeable audience into neo-con heaven. The guy will viciously stab Ron Paul and the libertarian movement in the back (again) in a split-second by undermining libertarians like Medina/Schiff/RandPaul and supporting 'mainstream' Republican party candidates instead -- he's doing it to Medina already. Anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously naive and gullible but they'll learn in November, that's for sure.


+100

I don't know why you all own TVs, let alone watch this guy.

[friedenmeister]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

No, Glenn Beck is not our ally. Not in the media or anywhere else.

Glenn Beck is quite simple to analyze once you understand Leninist doctrine and where he fits in it. One of the first things Lenin said you should do is organize your own opposition. Then, you can easily misguide and distract those who oppose you and you can squander their time, energy and resources on meaningless battles. This makes it easy for you to do what you really came to do: build collectivism.

Glenn Beck is the figurehead for a Leninist controlled opposition movement. He is not one of us; he never was and never will be.

Rather think of it like this: the inmates of Concentration Camp USA have become more restless over the last couple of years. The establishment realizes that if the braindead are not kept tuned in to the mindless propaganda on television, they will start looking for answers on their own. The natural place for people to look for information is on the internet, where there are no controls on information. This scares the establishment more than anything under the sun.

In order to keep this from happening, Glenn Beck comes on the scene to discuss and discredit the topics people are most worried about. He trots around the issues people are worried about and then inevitably circles back around to validating the government's position. You can think of Glenn Beck like a dog who goes out into the back yard, remembering that somewhere back there he buried a bone last month. Unable to find the bone, the dog sniffs the ground all around the place where he did bury it, and then, in defeat, walks back to the house with no reward.

In the case of Glenn Beck, his sole purpose is to keep people from understanding what is going on. The people tuning in to him are increasingly more restless, and they are gathering in numbers next to the electric fence at the aforementioned Concentration Camp USA. As they congregate, they are rumbling louder and louder about how nice the frontier of Liberty beyond the fence looks.

This is where Glenn Beck comes on stage. He rides up to the congregating inmates to tell them that he has just come from outside the gates and he personally has investigated what they are looking at out there. Then he tells them there is nothing to experience and that things are much better inside the prison camp. The solution to their sorrows, he assures them, is to sign his new petition asking the warden of the concentration camp for better heat in the winter and better AC in the summer. Then he cracks a few jokes about the bureaucratic inefficiency of the prison camp administration and makes a sneer about one of the foul-smelling camp guards. Assured that Beck really is on their side and that things really will get better now, the inmates go back to their barracks and turn in for the evening.

Because Glenn Beck is credible to so many people, he is able to get away with this. I am among those who are not fooled by Glenn Beck the Leninist. Make no mistake, he is a Leninist and he has full knowledge of what is going on, and he is instrumental in making sure Americans continue pouring their energy into worthless endeavors like his 9/12 groups.

[Danke]

No, Glenn Beck is not our ally. Not in the media or anywhere else.

Glenn Beck is quite simple to analyze once you understand Leninist doctrine and where he fits in it. One of the first things Lenin said you should do is organize your own opposition. Then, you can easily misguide and distract those who oppose you and you can squander their time, energy and resources on meaningless battles. This makes it easy for you to do what you really came to do: build collectivism.

Glenn Beck is the figurehead for a Leninist controlled opposition movement. He is not one of us; he never was and never will be.

Rather think of it like this: the inmates of Concentration Camp USA have become more restless over the last couple of years. The establishment realizes that if the braindead are not kept tuned in to the mindless propaganda on television, they will start looking for answers on their own. The natural place for people to look for information is on the internet, where there are no controls on information. This scares the establishment more than anything under the sun.

In order to keep this from happening, Glenn Beck comes on the scene to discuss and discredit the topics people are most worried about. He trots around the issues people are worried about and then inevitably circles back around to validating the government's position. You can think of Glenn Beck like a dog who goes out into the back yard, remembering that somewhere back there he buried a bone last month. Unable to find the bone, the dog sniffs the ground all around the place where he did bury it, and then, in defeat, walks back to the house with no reward.

In the case of Glenn Beck, his sole purpose is to keep people from understanding what is going on. The people tuning in to him are increasingly more restless, and they are gathering in numbers next to the electric fence at the aforementioned Concentration Camp USA. As they congregate, they are rumbling louder and louder about how nice the frontier of Liberty beyond the fence looks.

This is where Glenn Beck comes on stage. He rides up to the congregating inmates to tell them that he has just come from outside the gates and he personally has investigated what they are looking at out there. Then he tells them there is nothing to experience and that things are much better inside the prison camp. The solution to their sorrows, he assures them, is to sign his new petition asking the warden of the concentration camp for better heat in the winter and better AC in the summer. Then he cracks a few jokes about the bureaucratic inefficiency of the prison camp administration and makes a sneer about one of the foul-smelling camp guards. Assured that Beck really is on their side and that things really will get better now, the inmates go back to their barracks and turn in for the evening.

Because Glenn Beck is credible to so many people, he is able to get away with this. I am among those who are not fooled by Glenn Beck the Leninist. Make no mistake, he is a Leninist and he has full knowledge of what is going on, and he is instrumental in making sure Americans continue pouring their energy into worthless endeavors like his 9/12 groups.

You have had a long hiatus. Welcome back. You related to IP?

[jth_ttu]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

I wouldnt really call him an ally. He dogged Ron Paul supporters all during the campaign and constantly bashes anyone who thinks that 911 should have a new independent investigation and anyone who questions what they say happened.

[BlackTerrel]

I don't know if Beck is controlled opposition or just in it for the money

Or perhaps he just disagrees with us politically.

Is that possible? Can people hold divergent political opinions without being part of some shadowy conspiracy?

I don't even like the guy - but there's a bit of an absurdity to this stuff.

[devil21]

As for Beck, he woke me up to Ron Paul and the conservative/liberty movement.

I'd really love to hear that sequence of events, considering your join date in 2007 and the fact that at the time Beck did nothing but paint RP and his supporters as "terrorists". Not that I don't believe you but I don't see how it's possible. I can see RP being on Beck's old Headline News show and you waking up but that would be RP doing it, not Beck. And if that qualifies then anyone RP interviewed with would qualify.

"Sean Hannity woke me up to Ron Paul."

"Bill O'Reilly woke me up to Ron Paul."

etcetc

[Mach]

I'd really love to hear that sequence of events, considering your join date in 2007 and the fact that at the time Beck did nothing but paint RP and his supporters as "terrorists". Not that I don't believe you but I don't see how it's possible. I can see RP being on Beck's old Headline News show and you waking up but that would be RP doing it, not Beck. And if that qualifies then anyone RP interviewed with would qualify.

"Sean Hannity woke me up to Ron Paul."

"Bill O'Reilly woke me up to Ron Paul."

etcetc

Busted!
.

I hate/d Beck, it doesn't matter what he says now, I don't believe he's actually been enlightened, Beck is nothing but an opportunist, an opportunist on a leash that is......

[Peace&Freedom]

My conclusion is, the EVIDENCE suggests Alex is the real deal while Beck is the cointelpro Judas Goat. Jones is the one who LOST half his stations when he promoted his views on 9/11, Jones who gave Ron Paul every bit of exposure he possibly could during the early phase of his candidacy in 2007, Jones who emphasizes the infowar tactics underlying all major news coverage, etc, etc. Would Beck ever scrutinize a FOX news story on the same basis? Inconceivable.

When has Beck ever said anything that actually COST him stations, or income? Why did he avoid covering Paul BEFORE his campaign success forced him to? How many times has Jones bad-mouthed Paul or his supporters, versus how many times Beck trashed them? When was the last time Beck slipped into the Bohemian Grove, or discussed the guest list of a Bilderberg event?

And why do Jones bashers spend more time attacking his ALLEGED link to Zionists, than they themselves spend attacking Zionists? Why do these same people then turnaround and give Beck's conformity with the neo-cons and the Zionist official line a pass? Just who exactly are the 'Cohen TelPros' around here, anyway?

[ramallamamama]

No, Glenn Beck is not our ally. Not in the media or anywhere else.

Glenn Beck is quite simple to analyze once you understand Leninist doctrine and where he fits in it. One of the first things Lenin said you should do is organize your own opposition. Then, you can easily misguide and distract those who oppose you and you can squander their time, energy and resources on meaningless battles. This makes it easy for you to do what you really came to do: build collectivism.

Glenn Beck is the figurehead for a Leninist controlled opposition movement. He is not one of us; he never was and never will be.

Rather think of it like this: the inmates of Concentration Camp USA have become more restless over the last couple of years. The establishment realizes that if the braindead are not kept tuned in to the mindless propaganda on television, they will start looking for answers on their own. The natural place for people to look for information is on the internet, where there are no controls on information. This scares the establishment more than anything under the sun.

In order to keep this from happening, Glenn Beck comes on the scene to discuss and discredit the topics people are most worried about. He trots around the issues people are worried about and then inevitably circles back around to validating the government's position. You can think of Glenn Beck like a dog who goes out into the back yard, remembering that somewhere back there he buried a bone last month. Unable to find the bone, the dog sniffs the ground all around the place where he did bury it, and then, in defeat, walks back to the house with no reward.

In the case of Glenn Beck, his sole purpose is to keep people from understanding what is going on. The people tuning in to him are increasingly more restless, and they are gathering in numbers next to the electric fence at the aforementioned Concentration Camp USA. As they congregate, they are rumbling louder and louder about how nice the frontier of Liberty beyond the fence looks.

This is where Glenn Beck comes on stage. He rides up to the congregating inmates to tell them that he has just come from outside the gates and he personally has investigated what they are looking at out there. Then he tells them there is nothing to experience and that things are much better inside the prison camp. The solution to their sorrows, he assures them, is to sign his new petition asking the warden of the concentration camp for better heat in the winter and better AC in the summer. Then he cracks a few jokes about the bureaucratic inefficiency of the prison camp administration and makes a sneer about one of the foul-smelling camp guards. Assured that Beck really is on their side and that things really will get better now, the inmates go back to their barracks and turn in for the evening.

Because Glenn Beck is credible to so many people, he is able to get away with this. I am among those who are not fooled by Glenn Beck the Leninist. Make no mistake, he is a Leninist and he has full knowledge of what is going on, and he is instrumental in making sure Americans continue pouring their energy into worthless endeavors like his 9/12 groups.


Nice.

[ramallamamama]

Cohen TelPros

Gotta admit this made me snicker.

Regardless. IGNORED

[rpfan2008]

Great website... just some of the headlines on the front page...



All written in big bold scary font. Seems like a solid, unbiased source as always :D

Hey BlackTurd you missed this quote.

Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

— Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983

[rpfan2008]

I'd really love to hear that sequence of events, considering your join date in 2007 and the fact that at the time Beck did nothing but paint RP and his supporters as "terrorists". Not that I don't believe you but I don't see how it's possible. I can see RP being on Beck's old Headline News show and you waking up but that would be RP doing it, not Beck. And if that qualifies then anyone RP interviewed with would qualify.

"Sean Hannity woke me up to Ron Paul."

"Bill O'Reilly woke me up to Ron Paul."

etcetc

:rolleyes:

The next para starts with "On a serious note..."

[rpfan2008]

Glad to see some here are seeing the media cointelpro for what it is.

But I just had a look at that site you are referring to and I would be careful that you are not getting yourself caught-up in another trap of cointel manufactured vectors. I think you might want to listen to Marvin Antelman before you go too far down the hole that that site is sending you....

Right, I will be watchful.

[revolutionary8]

Nice.

llama,
If you are anti-Ron Paul/FREEDOM, you should TELL US.
Disagree?
;)
If not, may I call you a POSER to your face?
TIA.

[rpfan2008]

Beck is a white trash alcohollic LIAR who probably works for the CIA. I smell his BS very clearly now.

Or maybe he just made a mistake in an impulsive moment which is being used to blackmail him...




As for Alex...here's a guy who be as big as Beck or Hannity if he wanted to. The fact that he takes certain stands...and lets his movies be distributed for free on the Internet.....impresses me greatly.

AJ is the real deal.

I wonder if you are not posting this to prove that you are not max. :confused:

[revolutionary8]

#1 -any person w/ "RP" in their name, I QUESTION.

IMO, "RPFAN" IS FULL OF SHIT.

[rpfan2008]

This is the best you can go?

I think the supervisor is not around, kid.

[revolutionary8]

This is the best you can go?

I think the supervisor is not around, kid.

HISS MY ASS,
in ... 3, 2, 1.
rammy will "miraculously" show up...
(NO, THIS THREAD is not needed, just look back Mr. "Bad Cop" ;)

DQ
d.

[rpfan2008]

HISS MY ASS,
in ... 3, 2, 1.
rammy will "miraculously" show up...
(NO, THIS THREAD is not needed, just look back Mr. "Bad Cop" ;)

DQ
d.

:rolleyes:

I hope your Remote Desktop app is working just fine.
Have a nice day.

[revolutionary8]

:rolleyes:

I hope your Remote Desktop app is working just fine.
Have a nice day.

fEEL NAKED
Bow down to your "new" Overlords. THey are so much "different". :rolleyes:

[BlackTerrel]

Hey BlackTurd

Clever


Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

— Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983

And when was this alleged quote said/where is your source?

See I have this crazy thing where I don't believe everything I read on the internet.

[rpfan2008]

This discussion is about Horseshit Jones dude

Horseshit Jones steps in a big wet pile! ZIONIST POPPY BUSH exposed on air! (http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/titus-sviatoslav/2010/january/15/horseshit-jones-steps-big-wet-pile-zionist-poppy-bush-exposed-)

[LibertyEagle]

Be civil, please guys.

[rpfan2008]

Clever



And when was this alleged quote said/where is your source?

See I have this crazy thing where I don't believe everything I read on the internet.

That website is one of the sources. Isn't it?
Or you are looking for sources 'approved' by a specific group or gang?

[rpfan2008]

Be civil, please guys.

still here at 4AM!!!

or you too have outsourced your modding to Remote Desktop runners?? JK

[tpreitzel]

And when was this alleged quote said/where is your source?

See I have this crazy thing where I don't believe everything I read on the internet.

Try using a search engine. True, you might have to expend a little effort, but the process will be good for you. ;)

[BlackTerrel]

That website is one of the sources. Isn't it?
Or you are looking for sources 'approved' by a specific group or gang?

How is it a source? If I make a website that says rpfan2008 likes to eat baby kittens is that a source too?

Great website though... keep posting it...

http://iamthewitness.com/

I especially like that big bold quote at the beginning of the page:

The Brainwashing That Zionist Jews Go Through May Be Irreversible. So What Then Do We Do With These People?

Care to answer that question?

[BlackTerrel]

Try using a search engine. True, you might have to expend a little effort, but the process will be good for you. ;)

There's nothing there... just copy/pasted on a bunch of websites... where was the original source?

[Dieseler]

The Brainwashing That Zionist Jews Go Through May Be Irreversible. So What Then Do We Do With These People?

Go preach the Gospel to them.
I dare ya.

[rpfan2008]

The Brainwashing That Zionist Jews Go Through May Be Irreversible. So What Then Do We Do With These People?

Care to answer that question?

He talks about this all the time. But you need to listen to his radio programs to know that. He is talking about getting ready for a SHTF situation where one group of citizens will be incited to kill another (Rwanda, Sudan, Communist Russia, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, China/Sinkiang etc etc) and how that situation must be avoided by rebuilding family-to-family , neighborhood-to-neighborhood , city-to-city ties, independent of a middleman (media etc).

This thing is above the "why Iranians always kill Christians" posts that you usually throw around. Don't bother it's not for you, yet. :)

[Mini-Me]

That website is one of the sources. Isn't it?
Or you are looking for sources 'approved' by a specific group or gang?

He's probably referring to some kind of original source. For instance, we know that various quotes from David Rockefeller are legit, because he openly had them published in his own memoirs (etc.). Many sinister Rockefeller quotes are part of a pretty much indisputable historical record. However, if we had only his quotes without being able to trace them back to a source, we'd have no way of knowing whether they're legit or if some Internet troll made them up, only to have them repeated thousands of times on other sites as if true.

Looking around on the net, it looks like people are saying Jimmy Carter alleged in his memoirs that Menachem Begin said this. Even Carter's memoirs would be a secondary source from a certain point of view, and I haven't seen anyone claim to confirm it directly from them, let alone produce a page scan or something, and several have denied it's in there. Considering the quote is just so utterly ridiculous and over-the-top, I have a feeling this is some rumor a troll made up for lulz and possibly to accomplish some agenda (which may very well be making people look like fools for believing it...).

As I grow older and realize just how much of history is disputed, I'm finally gaining an appreciation for why my history teachers always stressed the distinction between primary and secondary sources (and especially the distinction between primary sources and secondary sources built on secondary sources built on...etc. ;)).
_________

As for Dieseler's post below:
Good call, man. I think I'll have to leave my post count like this for the rest of the night! :D

[Dieseler]

He's probably referring to some kind of original source. For instance, we know that various quotes from David Rockefeller are legit, because he openly had them published in his own memoirs (etc.). Many insidious Rockefeller quotes are part of a pretty much indisputable historical record. However, if we had only his quotes without being able to trace them back to a source, we'd have no way of knowing whether they're legit or if some Internet troll made them up, only to have them repeated thousands of times on other sites as if true.

Looking around on the net, it looks like people are saying Jimmy Carter alleged in his memoirs that Menachem Begin said this...but I haven't seen anyone claim to confirm it directly from the purported source (Carter's memoirs), let alone produce a page scan or something, and several have denied it's in there. Considering the quote is just so utterly ridiculous and over-the-top, I have a feeling this is some rumor a troll made up for lulz and possibly to accomplish some agenda (which may very well be making people look like fools for believing it...).

33 more than 3,333. :D

[ramallamamama]

If not, may I call you a POSER to your face?


Do as you wish.

IGNORED

Talk to the hand.

[tpreitzel]

There's nothing there... just copy/pasted on a bunch of websites... where was the original source?

Try harder ... ;)

[rpfan2008]

they're legit or if some Internet troll made them up, only to have them repeated thousands of times on other sites as if true.

Do you know Iraq was invaded based on "intel" provided by some anonymous taxi driver?

No one knows who was he, even to this day.

First arrests made after 9/11 were of Israelis, with explosives, not Arabs.

They have been freed but 4million Iraqis and millions of Afghans are missing from their countries.


US was supplying weapons technology to the communists right in middle of the Vietnam war.
This is a common knowledge, even Ron Paul wrote that in one of his books.

I hope you know all of these, what are you going to do about it?





Looking around on the net, it looks like people are saying Jimmy Carter alleged in his memoirs that Menachem Begin said this...

If war can be declared for "babies thrown out of incubators.." bull, why not wait for few hours of googling before rushing to debunk this quote?




but I haven't seen anyone claim to confirm it directly from the purported source (Carter's memoirs), let alone produce a page scan or something, and several have denied it's in there. Considering the quote is just so utterly ridiculous and over-the-top,

Really? Ridiculous as the '9/11 was an inside job' claim or more than that?



I have a feeling this is some rumor a troll made up for lulz and possibly to accomplish some agenda (which may very well be making people look like fools for believing it...).

Do you know what kind of feeling I have for you on this part? :)

[ramallamamama]

YouTube - 1 Interpreting Media NLP Neuro-linguistic programming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTIw7FEg85E)

[ramallamamama]

YouTube - 2 Interpreting Media Neuro-linguistic programming or NLP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqRlG2XLNKw)

[rpfan2008]

I hope this will do..Mini-Mi

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattlce at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." -

Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk.

Quoted from an article (http://www.countercurrents.org/lamb010709.htm) written by one of Kapeliouk's acquaintances and fellow journo, Jew.


Now tell me what are you going to do about it?

[tpreitzel]

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0907/S00025.htm

An article from Franklin P. Lamb who allegedly was a friend of the source of the quotation. You might try e-mailing Franklin to see whether he can corroborate the author's account at

fplamb@sabrashatila.org



Otherwise, you'll have to find a copy of the June 25, 1982 edition of the New Statesman:



"It was Amnon Kapeliouk who courageously published in the New Statesmen of June 25 1982 the racist Zionist rant of Prime Minister Begin before the Knesset forty eight hours earlier. His report was to activate the Boston based McCarthyite Zionist hate group, CAMERA to hound him until his death.
So spoke Begin to his colleagues:
""Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."."
(Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982))"

[tpreitzel]

I hope this will do..Mini-Mi

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattlce at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." -

Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk.

Quoted from an article (http://www.countercurrents.org/lamb010709.htm) written by one of Kapeliouk's acquaintances and fellow journo, Jew.


Now tell me what are you going to do about it?

I only wish we could get OTHERS to do a little leg work. ;) I question the totality of the alleged quotation, however. Begin has been quoted as saying the Palestinians were beasts on two legs, but someone may have embellished his remarks. I, too, would like to see the original source material in the New Statesman.

Official repudiation of Begin's alleged comment:

http://begincenterdiary.blogspot.com/2009/05/correcting-misquotation-reputedly-by.html

[Mini-Me]

Do you know Iraq was invaded based on "intel" provided by some anonymous taxi driver?

No one knows who was he, even to this day.

First arrests made after 9/11 were of Israelis, with explosives, not Arabs.

They have been freed but 4million Iraqis and millions of Afghans are missing from their countries.


US was supplying weapons technology to the communists right in middle of the Vietnam war.
This is a common knowledge, even Ron Paul wrote that in one of his books.

I hope you know all of these, what are you going to do about it?
It's not so much that I "know" all these, because facts and figures slip out of my mind like I'm an Alzheimer's patient (I worry sometimes)...but they sound familiar to me, and I'm liable to accept all of the above at face value unless someone else can demonstrate they're unfounded. I do recall that even Fox News had something about Israelis after 9/11, but I can't remember if the Fox report mentioned the arrests. I'm particularly inclined to believe statements of fact that Ron Paul makes, since he's not known to make factual errors often. (...and if he were, we'd know, considering how many enemies he has who would love to destroy his credibility.)

However, even "common knowledge" can sometimes be nothing more than bullshit that's been repeated over and over again so many times that everyone just assumes it's true. After all, at one point it was "common knowledge" among neocons that Iraq had huge stockpiles of VX nerve gas and Saddam had something to do with 9/11. ;)

The point is, history is a sticky-ass subject. You can't demand absolutely rigorous justification for everything, otherwise you'd know pretty much nothing. At the same time, believing every rumor you see on the Internet isn't wise either...even if it confirms your biases...perhaps especially if it confirms your biases.


If war can be declared for "babies thrown out of incubators.." bull, why not wait for few hours of googling before rushing to debunk this quote?
You're getting awfully defensive here. I wasn't "rushing to debunk" the quote. I actually started out pretty uncritically, looking for a source for BlackTerrel. I Googled and found nothing but a bunch of unsourced copy pastes. Most sites didn't mention any context for the quote whatsoever. A few mentioned that he said it to Jimmy Carter, and we know because it's in Carter's memoirs...but I haven't found anyone who even claimed to verify it from Carter's memoirs themselves, and I certainly haven't seen any page scans. Moreover, I HAVE found anonymous Internet posters who say they have his memoirs, and it isn't in there, etc. Here's a thread on the topic: http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?45193-Can-anyone-SOURCE-this-quote

Given my findings above, I decided to cut my losses, since I wasn't likely to find confirmation...and if it's not legit, I'm obviously never going to find confirmation, so continuing to look would be a wild goose chase. I took another look at the quote itself, and I decided it was so over-the-top that it was unlikely a powerful person would dare say it out loud in seriousness. It's such an especially outrageous quote that it would be idiotic to assume it's true with no evidence.

Now, you'd apparently have me do "a few hours of googling," but I've already done enough to get a pretty clear picture of where that quote came from, and it probably wasn't any of Jimmy Carter's books. ;) If you disagree, it's up to you to do all the Googling and demonstrate why I'm wrong.


Really? Ridiculous as the '9/11 was an inside job' claim or more than that?
:rolleyes:
It sounds far more ridiculous than a "9/11 was an inside job" claim, because it sounds like something a cartoon villain would say. Considering you brought up the quote, the burden of proof is on you to substantiate it, rather than demand other people Google for hours on end. If you have any evidence it's true, I'm all ears...but don't ask me to waste any more of my sleepy time substantiating your quote.


Do you know what kind of feeling I have for you on this part? :)
Nerd rage with angry hand-waving? ;)



...argh. No longer 33 over 3333 posts...

[ramallamamama]

YouTube - 3 Interpreting Media Neuro-linguistic programming or NLP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6mA_29sd6g)

YouTube - 4 NLP Hannity and Colmes with Kevin Barrett (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MabTR_MKsl8)

[rpfan2008]

snip

OK whatever.

What about the source I sent later?
Are you willing to Google further?

I never could have known about your Alz condition, I am sorry....but I guessed soy was interfering with ur testosterone or something.

[Mini-Me]

OK whatever.

What about the source I sent later?
Are you willing to Google further?

I never could have known about your Alz condition, I am sorry....but I guessed soy was interfering with ur testosterone or something.

Nonono, I don't HAVE Alzheimer's. I just joked that I worry sometimes, because I'm so bad with remembering facts and figures. :p I think it's just because I put a lot less emphasis on them, and more emphasis on the big picture.

Anyway: What source did you send later? I saw tpreitzel's link. Keep in mind that I DO know that Begin called Arab terrorists "beasts on two legs," and that quote isn't in dispute. It's the longer, cartoon villain-ish quote that's in dispute.

EDIT: nm, there have been a bunch more posts. I'll check your link.

[rpfan2008]

Nonono, I don't HAVE Alzheimer's. I just worry sometimes, because I'm so bad with facts and figures. :p

Oo Sounds great, I hope you don't take too much soy too.

[ramallamamama]

YouTube - Alex Jones & Glenn Beck Media Circus Clowns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ6YEwWo_gg)

[Mini-Me]

I hope this will do..Mini-Mi

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattlce at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." -

Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk.

Quoted from an article (http://www.countercurrents.org/lamb010709.htm) written by one of Kapeliouk's acquaintances and fellow journo, Jew.


Now tell me what are you going to do about it?

What I'm going to do is, I'm going to make a half-assed effort at verifying it. A quick Google search indicates a few things: Some people claim that quote appeared in that article, and others claim that another "misrepresented" quote* appeared in that article, but NOT that one, and that someone made up the longer quote and illegitimately claimed the Kapeliouk article as a source. Is there a scan from the original article anywhere? Even the full text from the original article would lend some credence, but the problem is, this quote is so widely disputed that we're going to need nothing short of an article scan to provide any margin of certainty...and that's assuming the article itself is reliable. I have a feeling the "Master Race" quote is not actually in the article though, since this isn't the only supposed source for it (my initial Google searches were claiming Jimmy Carter put it in his memoirs, which seems to be untrue).

Sleepy time for now.

*This refers to the "beasts on two legs" quote, which was apparently true but taken out of context.

EDIT: By the way, I'm not a soy guy, but why are you questioning my testosterone levels in particular? ...unless I'm not talking in a deep enough voice or sounding angry enough or something... ;) It just sounded like a strange comment to make.

[pacelli]

Guys like Beck and Alex Jones are nut jobs for a reason. They are inserted into the media to co-opt opposition vectors and then discredit them, along with all the people who support those vectors.


It's how the game is played. Rationalizing their antics will not provide answers. Instead, try to understand why they perpetrate these antics and why this is a systemic issue and not a personal one.

The big sell, in my mind, is that many people who follow these celebrities actually parrot their talking points, including the speech style, phrasings, and colloquialisms. While 'civilian repeaters/amplifiers' genuinely believe that they are part of an oppositional movement, and are having original awe-inspiring revelations that thwart their collective enemy's progress, these amplifiers actually increase the security and reach of their enemy. Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

[pacelli]

If it aint Alex Jones or Jason Bermas everything other show is suspect.

Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

[moostraks]

There are a few things that I can honestly say about all of this.

1.) I AM about as Right Wing and Conservative as a person can get.
2.) Without Alex Jones, I would have not heard about Ron Paul.
3.) William Milton Cooper was a Patriot and Alex Jones sensationalizes A LOT.
4.) I do not believe the official story on 911 because I'm not fucking stupid.
5.) Glenn Beck is a sensationalist piece of trash, douche bag tool.

See number 1 Glenn and guess which finger on both hands I'm pointing your way right now. I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

THis made me :)

I don't know Cooper right off hand but "Alex Jones sensationalizes A LOT" is true. I think he lives his fear too much and so his show is constant panic. That said, he is a good resource for tracking down potential gov't agendas. Shame he is so polarizing.

Beck is your typical junkie and fame is his drug of choice (quite probably not his only one). I will resent his villification of RP supporters as long as I live and never trust a word out of his mouth without numerous sound sources for back up.

[moostraks]

No, Glenn Beck is not our ally. Not in the media or anywhere else.

Glenn Beck is quite simple to analyze once you understand Leninist doctrine and where he fits in it. One of the first things Lenin said you should do is organize your own opposition. Then, you can easily misguide and distract those who oppose you and you can squander their time, energy and resources on meaningless battles. This makes it easy for you to do what you really came to do: build collectivism.

Glenn Beck is the figurehead for a Leninist controlled opposition movement. He is not one of us; he never was and never will be.

Rather think of it like this: the inmates of Concentration Camp USA have become more restless over the last couple of years. The establishment realizes that if the braindead are not kept tuned in to the mindless propaganda on television, they will start looking for answers on their own. The natural place for people to look for information is on the internet, where there are no controls on information. This scares the establishment more than anything under the sun.

In order to keep this from happening, Glenn Beck comes on the scene to discuss and discredit the topics people are most worried about. He trots around the issues people are worried about and then inevitably circles back around to validating the government's position. You can think of Glenn Beck like a dog who goes out into the back yard, remembering that somewhere back there he buried a bone last month. Unable to find the bone, the dog sniffs the ground all around the place where he did bury it, and then, in defeat, walks back to the house with no reward.

In the case of Glenn Beck, his sole purpose is to keep people from understanding what is going on. The people tuning in to him are increasingly more restless, and they are gathering in numbers next to the electric fence at the aforementioned Concentration Camp USA. As they congregate, they are rumbling louder and louder about how nice the frontier of Liberty beyond the fence looks.

This is where Glenn Beck comes on stage. He rides up to the congregating inmates to tell them that he has just come from outside the gates and he personally has investigated what they are looking at out there. Then he tells them there is nothing to experience and that things are much better inside the prison camp. The solution to their sorrows, he assures them, is to sign his new petition asking the warden of the concentration camp for better heat in the winter and better AC in the summer. Then he cracks a few jokes about the bureaucratic inefficiency of the prison camp administration and makes a sneer about one of the foul-smelling camp guards. Assured that Beck really is on their side and that things really will get better now, the inmates go back to their barracks and turn in for the evening.

Because Glenn Beck is credible to so many people, he is able to get away with this. I am among those who are not fooled by Glenn Beck the Leninist. Make no mistake, he is a Leninist and he has full knowledge of what is going on, and he is instrumental in making sure Americans continue pouring their energy into worthless endeavors like his 9/12 groups.

Where have you been? This ^^^ is excellent. :eek:

[rpfan2008]

EDIT: By the way, I'm not a soy guy, but why are you questioning my testosterone levels in particular? ...unless I'm not talking in a deep enough voice or sounding angry enough or something... ;) It just sounded like a strange comment to make.


Hmmm it appears memory loss is not the only problem (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=testosterone+memory+loss) you have.

[TN_VOL]

I heard the show and have to agree with Alex that Beck, and let us not forget he mentioned Matthews, are pure trash and scum.

[jmdrake]

Ah, the zionism / anti semite / conspiracy theory catch 22. Your mildest criticism of the war on terror (Ron Paul saying our foreign policy incites terrorism) get's the the anti semitism charge. But if you talk about foreign policy, expose the "dancing Israelis", talk about how Israel irradiated Jewish children, talk about Odigo, have a whole section on your website devoted to Mossad involvement in 9/11 and 7/7, talk about the U.S.S. Liberty and the Levine Affair and put all of this in your documentary (Terrorstorm) that still isn't enough for some people who want to say it's all Israel and they'll say you're a zionist. There's just no pleasing some folks. Oh well.

[AuH20]

Alex citing Beck as a fraud strikes me as awfully hypocritical. He constantly belabors the point, how he's tired of carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders, yet when other media personalities like the late William Cooper and now Beck actually echo his raison d'etre, he lashes out at them. I don't know about you, but if I was pitted against a sinister, monolithic organization like the New World Order, I would welcome any positive reinforcement, regardless of the source. Ideas via mass circulation far exceed petty rivalries and egos at this stage of the game.

So what is it, Alex? Do you want to open up more eyes or you're simply outraged that others are challenging you as the high priest of conspiracy theory? His behavior is very tellling. While we can't be absolutely sure about any of three I mentioned, Alex comes off like an petulant infant when the other two names are brought up. Just some food for thought for everyone to digest.

[Romulus]

There are a few things that I can honestly say about all of this.

1.) I AM about as Right Wing and Conservative as a person can get.
2.) Without Alex Jones, I would have not heard about Ron Paul.
3.) William Milton Cooper was a Patriot and Alex Jones sensationalizes A LOT.
4.) I do not believe the official story on 911 because I'm not fucking stupid.
5.) Glenn Beck is a sensationalist piece of trash, douche bag tool.


This


Ah, the zionism / anti semite / conspiracy theory catch 22. Your mildest criticism of the war on terror (Ron Paul saying our foreign policy incites terrorism) get's the the anti semitism charge. But if you talk about foreign policy, expose the "dancing Israelis", talk about how Israel irradiated Jewish children, talk about Odigo, have a whole section on your website devoted to Mossad involvement in 9/11 and 7/7, talk about the U.S.S. Liberty and the Levine Affair and put all of this in your documentary (Terrorstorm) that still isn't enough for some people who want to say it's all Israel and they'll say you're a zionist. There's just no pleasing some folks. Oh well.

and That.

[jmdrake]

Alex citing Beck as a fraud strikes me as awfully hypocritical. He constantly belabors the point, how he's tired of carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders, yet when other media personalities like the late William Cooper and now Beck actually echo his raison d'etre, he lashes out at them.

So what is it, Alex? Do you want to open up more eyes or you're simply outraged that others are challenging you as the high priest of conspiracy theory? His behavior is very tellling. While we can't be absolutely sure about any of three I mentioned, Alex comes off like an petulant infant when the other two names are brought up. Just some food for thought for everyone to digest.

I disagree with Alex lashing out William Cooper, but that seems to be personal. Glenn Beck is a tool. I don't recall William Cooper attacking Barry Goldwater like Beck attacked Ron Paul. I don't recall William Cooper saying that conspiracy theorists were dangerous and might try to kill the president that Glenn Beck did. Really I don't know why people want to excuse this. Oh well.

[Romulus]

listening to AJ for years off and on.. one thing I've noticed is that he's hypersensitive about personal attacks on him... others take that all kinds of ways, but it is what it is.

[dumlat]

Personal attacks!! :confused:

Like someone saying he's cointel ?
Is it possible to make that accusation without talking about Alex Jones the person ?

[InterestedParticipant]

The big sell, in my mind, is that many people who follow these celebrities actually parrot their talking points, including the speech style, phrasings, and colloquialisms. While 'civilian repeaters/amplifiers' genuinely believe that they are part of an oppositional movement, and are having original awe-inspiring revelations that thwart their collective enemy's progress, these amplifiers actually increase the security and reach of their enemy. Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
This is why Idolatry is a Sin according to the 10 Commandments (in fact, it is the FIRST Commandment). Humanity has known for thousands of years where idolizing other men will lead us collectively. It destroys ones individuality, and leads us toward cult-like follower-ship.

[devil21]

:rolleyes:

The next para starts with "On a serious note..."

So you lied? What's the point of that and why would you lie ("joke") about something like that? You're weird.

[TotalLiberty]

Like it or not, Glenn Beck is our best ally in the media.

I not like it.

Who needs enemies?

[BuddyRey]

It was a great show. Alex tore Beck a new one.

[rpfan2008]

So you lied? What's the point of that and why would you lie ("joke") about something like that? You're weird.

I didnot lie or tell the truth either.

He posted an advertisement for AJ and I posted one for Beck. Comparison shows how both were hypes without any actual content.

[Derek Johnson]

I posted this a while back, and if I am wrong about any content, feel free to correct me, this is just my humble take on Alex "Sensationalist" Jones...

AJ is great is some ways, horrible in others.

Starting off his joker-Obama show claiming Obama is stealing 27 trillion dollars (seriously) is not a way to build credibility.

Bashing Bill Cooper (God bless his soul) at every moment this man's name is raised, nor giving any props to him whatsoever (ever, I do mean ever), or JBS, or David Rivera, or any other pre-Alex Jones "Alex Jones" is not a way to build credibility either.

Talking about himself for 30 minutes at a stretch is not a way to build credibility.

Bashing the MSM, then citing the MSM, then bashing the controlled NWO MSM, then citing the controlled NWO MSM probably isn't the best way to build credibility either.

Not listening to an engineer (me) try to explain what contract documents are and what they are not (re: WTC 1 & 2) repeatedly over the course of several years is not a way to build credibility either.

Not siding with a caller challenging Ted Nugent (during a caller - Nugent - Jones conversation) on the matter of another 9-11 investigation (Alex claims authority on most things 9-11 trutherhood), rather quickly moving away from the truther caller to a new caller is not a way to build credibility (especially if your MO is 9-11 truth).

Claiming to be all things Ron Paul and promoting Webster Tarpley's promotion of Henry Clay/Lincoln's "American System" on infowars (the furthest thing from Mises/Paul) is not a way to build credibility.

Repeatedly claiming to have refused millions by the establishment to be the "next Rush Limbaugh", yet providing no detail on such an amazing and rare event is not a way to build credibility.

Claiming that everyone is out to "get him and looking at him all crazy and mean like" or that really weird things happen to him on every family vacation, or even a trips to the grocery store wears thin, after a while.

Saying the NWO has ruined his life, the same NWO that has helped him sell lots of videos and sponsor time, seems like, well, a contradiction?

Not answering Mark Roberts questions of proving or providing a priori or a posteriori evidence of common truther claims at ground zero and chasing uniformed Marines out of a restaurant and down the street over accusations of black ops and the like doesn't help the "patriot truther" cause, does it?

Working for a gold broker (Ted Anderson) and claiming that a "better" paper fiat money system (only minus the Fed) would be better than a gold standard (re: A Case Against the Fed, What Government Has Done To Our Money, A Case For A 100% Gold Dollar) is probably not the best way to build credibility either, especially for someone who has actually read a few books that Ron Paul has read and has drawn from in terms of the field of money.

But he says constitution and bill of rights a lot. I like that.

He linked to my video of my skepticism over the 9-11 FEA work and NIST report. I like that also.

He supports Ron Paul (although not all of Ron's ideas). I really really like that a lot.

I guess if he'd simply humble himself (sure, that will happen), and eschew the conjecture of foreign offshore bank boogiemen, confine NWO talk to what is known about the PLAN for the NWO as opposed to the active and conniving back room full of cigar smoke "woo woo" NWO conspiracy everywhere bullshit, wild adolescent antics that can go on and on over mutliple segments, and obscence exaggeration...he'd be peaches and cream of all things conspiracy theory radio.