MA election returns thread.

[klamath]

Figure people are going to be talking about this tonight:D

[Neopaulitan]

What? There's an election in MA?
:p

[FrankRep]

Current results:


R: 249,106 - 53%
D: 216,117 - 46%
L: 4,392 - 1%


http://www.boston.com/news/special/politics/2010/senate/results.html
http://www.drudgereport.com/

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

is this the one with the gay pornstar?

[cradle2graveconservative]

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[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

As though it were a problem?

It is if you are running for a Republican seat

[FrankRep]

Coakley adviser memo: D.C. Dems 'failed' Coakley

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Coakley_adviser_memo_DC_Dems_faled_Coakley.html?sh owall#

[TortoiseDream]

is this the one with the gay pornstar?

haha you crack me up MRS. we go at it in the off topic section, but you make good cracks.

[mport1]

Who cares? A statist vs. a statist...

[cradle2graveconservative]

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[Neopaulitan]

Preemptive indeed.

Charges of ballot tampering fly last minute in Massachusetts vote

"The Coakley campaign claims that a "serious violation" has taken place in the Massachusetts election, calling into question the validity of the election results even before the tally is in.

In a prepared statement, the campaign takes issue with pre-marked ballots being given to voters, claiming that in five instances they were marked in favor of Brown."



http://rawstory.com/2010/01/charges-ballot-tampering-fly-minute-massachusetts-vote/

[FrankRep]

Joseph Kennedy - 1%

[cradle2graveconservative]

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[cradle2graveconservative]

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[Cowlesy]

Brown's pulling away already.....boy the Dems are going to have a rough fall at this rate.

[Pepsi]

what are the odds that her supporters did that to steal the election for her?

I remember a few elections ago that the poll workers here told us we had to use pens to vote with, when the ballot said only to use the pencils giveing.

[Flash]

R: 0,169,808
d: 0,145,733

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Boston is already in and it didn't tilt heavily for Coakley. Brown is still at 53%. His percentage could go up a bit more for my liking, just to rub further salt in the Dem wounds. Let them know how pissed off this country is, and what's going to happen to them in November.

[FrankRep]

A Recount will most likely happen. This is brutally close.

[gls]

A Recount will most likely happen. This is brutally close.

Really? He's ahead by 7% with 40% reporting. It looks like he will win by a comfortable margin.

[TCE]

Coakley's winning 59/40 in Boston with many more to go:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2010/by_county/MA_US_Senate_0119.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

[FrankRep]

Really? He's ahead by 7% with 40% reporting. It looks like he will win by a comfortable margin.
We'll see I guess.

[low preference guy]

Yep, big win. A nice monkey wrench for universal health care. Go Massachusetts!

[tangent4ronpaul]

Boston is already in and it didn't tilt heavily for Coakley. Brown is still at 53%. His percentage could go up a bit more for my liking, just to rub further salt in the Dem wounds. Let them know how pissed off this country is, and what's going to happen to them in November.

Only 20% of boston is in and it's her strongest base. She's not got that much of a lead there.

Boston 54 of 254 12,290 17,983 313

-t

[TCE]

Only 20% of boston is in and it's her strongest base. She's not got that much of a lead there.

Boston 54 of 254 12,290 17,983 313

-t

88/254 - Precincts Reporting
30,039 61% - Coakley
18,993 38% - Brown
480 1% - Kennedy

[Flash]

R: 0,638,823
d: 0,563,214

[Voltaire]

Perhaps Taxachusetts has gone insane?

[TCE]

D: 607,073 46%

r: 694,897 53%

[TCE]

Perhaps Taxachusetts has gone insane?

Referendum on health care, along with Coakley running a horrible campaign and Brown running a great one. It's still not over yet.

[Neopaulitan]

Don't forget 13,502 for Kennedy.

Yeah. I know it's 1 stinkin % - but still. It's nice to know I wasn't the only Liberty Party vote today.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Now, if only this wonderful blowback against the left will pick up steam and touch incumbents too. It may seem like a crazy dream now, but to see Pelosi hurled out of office this Fall would really crown the justice being done here tonight. But I won't get ahead of myself.

Brown winning by a good margin is like putting the horse's head on the Democratic Party's pillow. Message: STOP KILLING OUR COUNTRY...OR ELSE!

[LibertyBrews]

Ted Kennedy is probably turning into a zombie now trying to dig himself out so he can kill the people in Massachusetts en masse.

[FrankRep]

This should send a strong message to Obama.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Interactive map is up here:

http://www.boston.com/news/special/politics/2010/senate/results.html

note that the middle of the state has largely not reported...

compare that with the map here that lists pledged voters to get a rough idea of support in various areas (though keep population density in mind...)

http://brownforussenate.com/voter-bomb

bottom line - a lot of strong Brown areas have not reported in... while Croakley's strong areas generally have reported in. This is looking like a widening win margin for Brown. :D

-t

[sarahgop]

this is awesome!!

[TCE]

Now, if only this wonderful blowback against the left will pick up steam and touch incumbents too. It may seem like a crazy dream now, but to see Pelosi hurled out of office this Fall would really crown the justice being done here tonight. But I won't get ahead of myself.

Brown winning by a good margin is like putting the horse's head on the Democratic Party's pillow. Message: STOP KILLING OUR COUNTRY...OR ELSE!

This was something of a referendum on the incumbent, the incumbent party if nothing else. She had the incumbent disadvantage, since she was using an incumbent as the cornerstone of her campaign, but she had none of the advantages, such as money and PAC/Lobbyist support.

[catdd]

Just heard that brown is projected winner.

[sarahgop]

we did it tangent!!

[Pepsi]

Ted Kennedy is probably turning into a zombie now trying to dig himself out so he can kill the people in Massachusetts en masse.

They need to make a zombie movie were the zombies are members of Congress and the Founding Fathers fighting them off.

[low preference guy]

It is over. More than 65% reported, Brown 7 points ahead.

[Flash]

It's over.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

FYI, if you want to see some totally deranged crybabies, go on DemocraticUnderground right now. There are seriously liberals who now believe Brown and Republicans somehow stole the election...even though it's a heavily "blue" state with machinery controlled by the Democrats.

[FrankRep]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/live_coverage_o.html

9:13 p.m. -- Coakley has conceded in a call to Scott Brown, according to a Brown aide.

[catdd]

Pelosi should be babbling in tongues about now. Probably become a bag lady.

[cindy25]

Brown wins according to Drudge

unbelievable

[Pepsi]

Let the recounts and the election frade begin!!

[Mini-Me]

God, I just hope the neocons don't sweep in the Fall...

[klamath]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/live_coverage_o.html

9:13 p.m. -- Coakley has conceded in a call to Scott Brown, according to a Brown aide.

Well at least they may not try and contest it to delay seating Brown.

[FrankRep]

Let the recounts and the election frade begin!!
Coakley just gave up. What a party pooper.

[TCE]

God, I just hope the neocons don't sweep in the Fall...

If they do, they'll bring some of our guys with them.

[Southron]

Sean Hannity calls this the Revolution...

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/live_coverage_o.html

9:13 p.m. -- Coakley has conceded in a call to Scott Brown, according to a Brown aide.

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Win by a LANDSLIDE!

Goodby health care, goodby cap and trade, goodby Obama's radical agenda!

-t

[AuH20]

God, I just hope the neocons don't sweep in the Fall...


The neocons are being phased out little by little.

[klamath]

Let the recounts and the election frade begin!!

If shes conceded I don't think they will fight for a recount.

[Mini-Me]

If they do, they'll bring some of our guys with them.

Well, what I'm afraid of is that they'll decide they don't NEED our guys in order to keep winning see-saw elections every other cycle. What I'm seeing here is a voting populace that gets so tired of Republicans that any old Democrat will do, and then vice versa, ad nauseum.

[HOLLYWOOD]

COAKLEY Concedes to Brown By Phone... DRUDGE REPORT


THE BOSTON TEA PARTY...

SCOTT BROWN (R) : 843,516 53%
MARTHA COAKLEY (D): 736,627 46%

[YumYum]

Does this mean I will lose my ass in my investments in the FEMA Resorts timeshares??:eek:

[Pepsi]

IF they do, you can expect the airport scanners be place in all shopping centers, public schools, and maybe even at your front door. Taser bracelets be force for every one flying, so you can be zap if you act up during flight.

[FrankRep]

Hopefully Obamacare will be killed now.

[TCE]

Well, what I'm afraid of is that they'll decide they don't NEED our guys in order to keep winning see-saw elections every other cycle. What I'm seeing here is a voting populace that gets so tired of Republicans that any old Democrat will do, and then vice versa, ad nauseum.

If our guys win the primaries, they will get swept in on the GOP wave. For instance, let's say Rand wins the primary, in a GOP wave year, his chances go way up and there is nothing the leadership can do about it.

Then in a few years, we can run a few people as Democrats like they have in NH and, according to SpeciallyBlend, there is something of a liberty movement in the Colorado Democratic Party. We can have some good people on both sides within a few elections.

[tpreitzel]

If they do, they'll bring some of our guys with them.

The GOP is rather amusing... the goons in the leadership automatically think regaining a majority will return the neocons to power without publicly acknowledging a possibly transformed GOP in the process. ;)

[Mini-Me]

If our guys win the primaries, they will get swept in on the GOP wave. For instance, let's say Rand wins the primary, in a GOP wave year, his chances go way up and there is nothing the leadership can do about it.

That's true for this year's elections, but I'm thinking longer term. If the neocons regain their confidence, it will be harder to make further inroads in the party.

[AuH20]

That's true for this election, but I'm thinking longer term. If the neocons regain their confidence, it will be harder to make further inroads in the party.

I disagree. Bush singlehandedly destroyed the neocon governing model. It's going to be hard to push the same dreck.

[Mini-Me]

I disagree. Bush singlehandedly destroyed the neocon governing model. It's going to be hard to push the same dreck.

It wasn't tonight. ;) I know you mean in the primaries, but still, remember that Ron Paul's marginalization in the GOP primaries came after Bush too.

[Imperial]

Who cares? A statist vs. a statist...


Yep, I was just watching for Joe Kennedy's results. Disappointing he only got 1%.

[AuH20]

It wasn't tonight. ;) I know you mean in the primaries, but still, remember that Ron Paul's marginalization in the GOP primaries came after Bush too.

It's still an uphill climb for us but the neocons are significantly weaker as opposed to 8 years ago. Many of their policies have been proven to be unmitigated failures. I don't know how they can successfully camouflage them.

[tangent4ronpaul]

The anti-incumbent sentiment is going to take both Dems and Repubs out of office. We need to run candidates NOW while Americans are pissed off.

-t

ps: Coakley concession speach coming up right a way. Boston didn't turn out for her.

[klamath]

Now is the time to get good candidates in the primaries. If the trend continues whoever we nominate will be swept in in November.

[sarahgop]

we must put in liberty candidates in states where they can win, like texas. the greatest night in history!!

[amisspelledword]

Now is the time to get good candidates in the primaries. If the trend continues whoever we nominate will be swept in in November.

this is how the R or D tag is useful

[FrankRep]

we must put in liberty candidates in states where they can win, like texas. the greatest night in history!!
Victory for the least worse candidate. He better at least stop ObamaCare.

[catdd]

yep

[Mini-Me]

It's still an uphill climb for us but the neocons are significantly weaker as opposed to 8 years ago. Many of their policies have been proven to be unmitigated failures. I don't know how they can successfully camouflage them.

I hope you're right, but I fear you're wrong. There are still a lot of unrepentant neocons around. Some admit Bush was a failure but can't articulate why, and they still support the same basic policies. The rest never stopped loving Bush in the first place...as insane as that sounds. :rolleyes: When it comes to the general public, proving a policy to be an unmitigated failure doesn't seem to prevent it from being retried over and over again; see price controls, which ancient Babylon proved to be a failure. ;)

Although we've been trying to win people's hearts and minds on principle and arguments about issues, another big argument in our favor was, "Look, you're just not going to win in the general with a rabidly pro-war, pro-police state guy. Why not just give up on that part of your platform?" Even unrepentant neocons had become disoriented by wildly anti-GOP sentiment in the US, and I think that weakened their resolve against us. As public outrage shifts from the wars to Obamacare though (and the Dems failed on their peace promise), the electability argument is losing its validity, and I think a lot of neocons are just returning to their former arrogance.

[AuH20]

I hope you're right, but I fear you're wrong. There are still a lot of unrepentant neocons around. Some admit Bush was a failure but can't articulate why, and they still support the same basic policies. The rest never stopped loving Bush in the first place...as insane as that sounds. :rolleyes: When it comes to the general public, proving a policy to be an unmitigated failure doesn't seem to prevent it from being retried over and over again; see price controls, which ancient Babylon proved to be a failure. ;)

Although we've been trying to win people's hearts and minds on principle and arguments about issues, another big argument in our favor was, "Look, you're just not going to win in the general with a rabidly pro-war, pro-police state guy. Why not just give up on that part of your platform?" Even unrepentant neocons had become disoriented by wildly anti-GOP sentiment in the US, and I think that weakened their resolve against us. As public outrage shifts from the wars to Obamacare though (and the Dems failed on their peace promise), the electability argument is losing its validity, and I think a lot of neocons are just returning to their former arrogance.

The key is retaking the congressional leadership positions. We need to retire that crook McConnell and bring in a deficit hawk & Fed opponent like Demint. In the house, we need someone other than Boehner (though he's improved substantially but I'm still leery) or Cantor.

[tangent4ronpaul]

The interim senator has stepped down effective immediately and The Mass gvmt has indicated that they will fast track the approval of the election if there is no doubt as to the winner - and there is not any doubt.

Getting a modified health care bill through the house then the senate is not going to happen. If the witch Pelosi tries something slimy - that will seriously hurt dem incumbents in November, and as the Senate bill contains unexceptable abortion language - many House dems won't vote for it. Other reasons for dem no votes too.

The dem super majority is OVER! as is Obama's radical agenda! YEAH!!!!!

It's times like these that I wish the forum has a somersault emoticon! :D

Browns victory speech left me with a lot of hope. anti-tax, anti-big gov, anti-special interests... This guy could actually be good. He really didn't sound neocon at all.

-t

[parocks]

The Democrats won't be winning in Kentucky in November.


If our guys win the primaries, they will get swept in on the GOP wave. For instance, let's say Rand wins the primary, in a GOP wave year, his chances go way up and there is nothing the leadership can do about it.

Then in a few years, we can run a few people as Democrats like they have in NH and, according to SpeciallyBlend, there is something of a liberty movement in the Colorado Democratic Party. We can have some good people on both sides within a few elections.

[parocks]

Yay Brown!!!!!!!!!!


The interim senator has stepped down effective immediately and The Mass gvmt has indicated that they will fast track the approval of the election if there is no doubt as to the winner - and there is not any doubt.

Getting a modified health care bill through the house then the senate is not going to happen. If the witch Pelosi tries something slimy - that will seriously hurt dem incumbents in November, and as the Senate bill contains unexceptable abortion language - many House dems won't vote for it. Other reasons for dem no votes too.

The dem super majority is OVER! as is Obama's radical agenda! YEAH!!!!!

It's times like these that I wish the forum has a somersault emoticon! :D

Browns victory speech left me with a lot of hope. anti-tax, anti-big gov, anti-special interests... This guy could actually be good. He really didn't sound neocon at all.

-t