July4Patriot Taken Down

[Dieseler]

Some of you will recognize this guy.
Sergeant Charles A. Dyer
YouTube - July4patriot @ the Broken Arrow Oklahoma tea party Part 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3mghRiZB3w&feature=player_embedded#)
YouTube - Give me liberty or give me DEATH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D680st4cRIM&feature=related)
YouTube - July4Patriot: 1st POW of the 2nd American Revolution. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMdfbhbNfkk&feature=player_embedded)

http://www.duncanbanner.com/local/local_story_016181006.html


Dyer now facing federal weapon charge
Ron Booth
The Duncan Banner

An arrest on charges of rape of a child and forcible sodomy has led to a complaint being filed in United States District Court.

Charles Alan Dyer, 29, of Marlow, was arrested for the alleged rape and forcible sodomy of a child. During the investigation into the allegations, the Stephens County Sheriff’s Office obtained a warrant to collect DNA evidence. During the search the sheriff’s deputies noted several firearms and a device believed to be a Colt M-203, 40-millimeter grenade launcher, a complaint filed in the United States District Court of Western Oklahoma by Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco Special Agent Brett Williams said.

On Wednesday, knowing that Dyer, an ex-Marine, had alleged contacts with militia groups and not knowing the legality of the alleged device, the Stephens County Sheriff's Office contacted federal agents and informed them of what the deputies had observed.

Dyer’s affiliation with militia groups is apparent through the videos posted on his YouTube channel — July4Patriot.

Deputies searched the residence with consent from another person who lived at 5819 Hope Road near Clear Creek Lake and seized the grenade launcher.

Deputies searched the National Crime Information Center database, according to the complaint, and found that the grenade launcher was one stolen from Fort Irwin, Calif., in 2006. The NCIC also indicated that there were two other grenade launchers stolen from Fort Irwin as they were being transported to Iraq.

Williams affirmed in the complaint that through his extensive training that he identified the grenade launcher as a destructive device as defined in Title 26 of the United States Code, section 5845(f).

The complaint noted that the grenade launcher was not commonly available to civilians unless they possess a Federal Firearms License.

Assistant District Attorney, Josh Creekmore said that Dyer is now in federal custody.

“Federal crimes take precedent over state crimes,” Creekmore noted.

Violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 5871, referring to Section 5861(d), carries a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and/or a $10,000 fine.

Stephens County Sheriff Wayne McKinney said that the investigation went smoothly.

“I’m extremely happy with the cooperation between the sheriff’s office and the federal agents,” McKinney said.

Sorry, not buying it.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14202813

ATF files complaint after grenade launcher found
The Associated Press
Posted: 01/15/2010 06:25:18 PM PST
Updated: 01/15/2010 06:25:18 PM PST

DUNCAN, Okla.—The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives filed a complaint against an ex-Marine after a grenade launcher was discovered at his residence in Marlow.

ATF Agent Brett Williams wrote in an affidavit that deputies found a Colt M-203, 40-millimeter grenade launcher Tuesday while they were arresting Charles Dyer on child rape and forcible sodomy charges.

The affidavit says authorities determined the item was one of three grenade launchers that were stolen from Fort Irwin, Calif., in 2006 as they were being shipped to Iraq.

Williams says Dyer told an FBI agent a friend gave him the device while Dyer was stationed in California with the Marine Corps.

A Stephens County jailer says Dyer was transferred to federal custody on Friday, and it wasn't known if he had an attorney.

Nope, not sitting right.

[steve005]

they were scared of him

[angelatc]

they were scared of him

They should be! He had a grenade launcher!

[Pericles]

Ft. Irwin is an Army post, and I'm not aware of any Marines stationed there, or training there. How does an M203 stolen from an Army post end up in possession of a Marine?

[speciallyblend]

An arrest on charges of rape of a child and forcible sodomy has led to a complaint being filed in United States District Court.
this concerns me more then the guns!!

[Chester Copperpot]

The complaint noted that the grenade launcher was not commonly available to civilians unless they possess a Federal Firearms License.

Assistant District Attorney, Josh Creekmore said that Dyer is now in federal custody.

“Federal crimes take precedent over state crimes,” Creekmore noted.

Violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 5871, referring to Section 5861(d), carries a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment and/or a $10,000 fine.

Stephens County Sheriff Wayne McKinney said that the investigation went smoothly.

“I’m extremely happy with the cooperation between the sheriff’s office and the federal agents,” McKinney said.

TITLE 26 is the Income Tax law? WTF?

[Chester Copperpot]

TITLE 26 is the Income Tax law? WTF?

I see its part of Title 26 Internal Revenue

http://vlex.com/source/us-code-internal-revenue-code-1025/page/47


So he didnt pay the excise tax on his grenade launcher... Is that how they get you with this bullshit?

[Dieseler]

Ft. Irwin is an Army post, and I'm not aware of any Marines stationed there, or training there. How does an M203 stolen from an Army post end up in possession of a Marine?

Good catch.


TITLE 26 is the Income Tax law? WTF?

Good catch.

I'm glad I posted this here.
You guys will pick this to pieces in ways I would not think of.
Thanks.

[Chester Copperpot]

Im calling bullshit on this one.. Accuse the guy of sodomizing little kids to get a search warrant and then bust him for failing to pay excise taxes on weapons...


Meanwhile back in 1765...

....And once in your home on the premise of you not paying the stamp tax on paper goods, the Kings men see you have rum from the islands without a tax stamp on it so they take it from you and furniture that might not have a tax stamp on it so they will take that from you too.....

[bucfish]

I smell BS... Peww it stinks

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Im calling bullshit on this one.. Accuse the guy of sodomizing little kids to get a search warrant and then bust him for failing to pay excise taxes on weapons...


Meanwhile back in 1765...

....And once in your home on the premise of you not paying the stamp tax on paper goods, the Kings men see you have rum from the islands without a tax stamp on it so they take it from you and furniture that might not have a tax stamp on it so they will take that from you too.....

We need some damn Committees of Correspondence between townships, communities, militia, Oathkeepers, and other patriot groups. We cannot stand and sit idly by for too much longer. I'm just wondering what next "terrorist" or "natural disaster" excuse they'll use to confiscate our remaining weapons leaving us defenseless. I hope people have been preparing for the future.

We all ready know Holder is foaming at the mouth. 1994 Firearms Act, anyone? Clintonista.

[Chester Copperpot]

We need some damn Committees of Correspondence between townships, communities, militia, Oathkeepers, and other patriot groups. We cannot stand and sit idly by for too much longer. I'm just wondering what next "terrorist" or "natural disaster" excuse they'll use to confiscate our remaining weapons leaving us defenseless. I hope people have been preparing for the future.

We all ready know Holder is foaming at the mouth. 1994 Firearms Act, anyone? Clintonista.

We've got the internet to communicate between everybody real quickly now.. Quicker than the Pony Express..

But we need a way to encrypt everything to keep it private.. im sure theres a way.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

We've got the internet to communicate between everybody real quickly now.. Quicker than the Pony Express..

But we need a way to encrypt everything to keep it private.. im sure theres a way.

The internet is too easy to intercept messages. We need ham radio ops., and other radio ops with DES. I'm a radioman, so when I get out I can help train a lot of people on this. We also need a good chain between patriots in physical form. That is the only way. They cracked Enigma in WWII so I doubt even a cipher will do us any good on the internet. Maybe if it is a rotating Cipher and it switched every 8 hours or something.....Still first and foremost should be phsyical and radio.

Besides we need to be forming these bridges and communication networks now. Remember, OPSEC and COMSEC at all times. Do not give out your crypto to anyone, but your radio OP.

I'm hoping some real Patriots get elected to Governorship (hint hint Debra) so if something big does go down, at least one State will have our backs.

[Reason]

hmmm

impossible to know the truth it seems

[Chester Copperpot]

bump

[Southron]

They always use child rape as the excuse. Just look at the massacre at Waco.

I believe there were going to use this in case he resisted so they would have cover if he was killed.

Hard to know the exact truth, but its certain fewer people would be angered over the death of an alleged child rapist vs. Supposed weapon posession.

Either way his life is ruined.

[Dieseler]

I believe it would be prudent to warn in advance of such tactics in order to preserve ones reputation at least among family.

[tmosley]

An arrest on charges of rape of a child and forcible sodomy has led to a complaint being filed in United States District Court.
this concerns me more then the guns!!

"Think of the CHILDREN!" is even more powerful than "TERRORIST!". Now, they can call him both.

I wouldn't be surprised if every bit of this was made up.

[libertyjam]

I see its part of Title 26 Internal Revenue

http://vlex.com/source/us-code-internal-revenue-code-1025/page/47


So he didnt pay the excise tax on his grenade launcher... Is that how they get you with this bullshit?

Yes that is exactly how it is done, there is a $200 tax stamp per FFL Class II weapon that must be had and registration requirements to get the stamp, and note the registry has been closed since 1968.

[Chester Copperpot]

Yes that is exactly how it is done, there is a $200 tax stamp per FFL Class II weapon that must be had and registration requirements to get the stamp, and note the registry has been closed since 1968.

Doesnt a search warrant have to specifically name the item or items they are searching for? Isnt a search limited to just those items?


Does evidence like grenade launchers become admissible in court if theyre searching your house on the premise of child porn and such??

[tmosley]

Doesnt a search warrant have to specifically name the item or items they are searching for? Isnt a search limited to just those items?


Does evidence like grenade launchers become admissible in court if theyre searching your house on the premise of child porn and such??

Yup. A search warrant allows ANYTHING found on the premises covered by the warrant to be used for prosecution. This is a good argument for weapons caching, as the weapons are more difficult for them to find, and if they do, it is difficult to link them to you.

[Dieseler]

Doesnt a search warrant have to specifically name the item or items they are searching for? Isnt a search limited to just those items?


Does evidence like grenade launchers become admissible in court if theyre searching your house on the premise of child porn and such??

I do believe that was changed recently and if I remember correctly it was changed for just such incidents as this.
I remember a stink arising about it within the last year or so.

[Dieseler]

According to this,


A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

the man should be innocent of charges concerning any weaponry in his immediate possession as he was most certainly a party of a standing militia but then our Judicial system has created such laws since which seem to override the intent of our founding documents and most certainly since 1913 the intent has been more and more so clear.
Why?

[Reason]

YouTube - Militiaman: We have to protect ourselves against tyranny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTWZxOkEqg)