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Flash
01-18-2010, 01:16 PM
I just found this out thanks to Sofia's post and then googled it and came across a Lew Rockwell article:


Myth # 6: King was a conservative.

As all the previous myths show, King’s views were hardly conservative. If this was not enough, it is worth noting what King said about the two most prominent postwar American conservative politicians, Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater.

King accused Barry Goldwater of "Hitlerism." He believed that Goldwater advocated a "narrow nationalism, a crippling isolationism, and a trigger-happy attitude." On domestic issues he felt that "Mr. Goldwater represented an unrealistic conservatism that was totally out of touch with the realities of the twentieth century." King said that Goldwater’s positions on civil rights were "morally indefensible and socially suicidal."

King said of Reagan, "When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor, can become a leading war hawk candidate for the presidency, only the irrationalities induced by war psychosis can explain such a turn of events."

Despite King’s harsh criticisms of those men, both supported the King holiday. Goldwater even fought to keep King’s FBI files, which contained information about his adulterous sex life and Communist connections, sealed.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

YumYum
01-18-2010, 01:51 PM
My favorite civil rights leader was Malcom X. He believed in human rights and was against forced intergration. He told it like it was.

AuH20
01-18-2010, 02:26 PM
King was a communist. Sure, he should be applauded for the movement he started, but whenever I hear conservatives lauding him too much, I get queasy.

AuH20
01-18-2010, 02:26 PM
My favorite civil rights leader was Malcom X. He believed in human rights and was against forced intergration. He told it like it was.

Mine as well.

literatim
01-18-2010, 02:28 PM
My favorite civil rights leader was Malcom X. He believed in human rights and was against forced intergration. He told it like it was.

He was a communist, just like MLK Jr.

sofia
01-18-2010, 02:28 PM
King was a communist. Sure, he should be applauded for the movement he started, but whenever I hear conservatives lauding him too much, I get queasy.

Thats like saying that the Mafia should be applauded for keeping the Italian neighborhoods safe..

AuH20
01-18-2010, 02:30 PM
He was a communist, just like MLK Jr.

X just wanted his people to be left alone. He decried federal handouts and other social welfare plans.

literatim
01-18-2010, 02:35 PM
X just wanted his people to be left alone. He decried federal handouts and other social welfare plans.

"You show me a capitalist, and I'll show you a bloodsucker" — Malcolm X

FrankRep
01-18-2010, 02:36 PM
33 Questions about American History You're Not Supposed to Ask (http://www.amazon.com/Questions-About-American-History-Supposed/dp/0307346684)
by Thomas E. Woods, Jr.


Did Martin Luther King Jr. oppose affirmative action?

Read the Chapter Online:
http://books.google.com/books?id=xvEjA46pDMUC&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=Did+Martin+Luther+King+Jr.+oppose+affirmative+a ction%3F&source=bl&ots=7knj_6z0e1&sig=CDbgNeBkgF__X3h2w4kGVN1KGn4&hl=en&ei=EsZUS6rxG9WKlAeV_OzfBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CAsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Did%20Martin%20Luther%20King%20Jr.%20oppose%20af firmative%20action%3F&f=false

Martin Luther King Jr. exposed as a Socialist.

http://www.thomasewoods.com/images/cover_questions_lg.jpg

AuH20
01-18-2010, 02:38 PM
"You show me a capitalist, and I'll show you a bloodsucker" — Malcolm X

Given the perverted form of capitalism we've been subjected to, is his statement that far off? It's crony capitalism he's talking about it.

Chaohinon
01-18-2010, 02:41 PM
Was he wrong? Goldwater and Reagan were both frothing-at-the-mouth warmongers

AuH20
01-18-2010, 02:49 PM
Was he wrong? Goldwater and Reagan were both frothing-at-the-mouth warmongers

MLK equates Goldwater with Hitler and you agree with him? Secondly, Goldwater was a realist who wanted these conflicts to end as quickly as possible.

rpfan2008
01-18-2010, 02:52 PM
MLK had his handlers.

literatim
01-18-2010, 02:58 PM
Given the perverted form of capitalism we've been subjected to, is his statement that far off? It's crony capitalism he's talking about it.

Some more priceless quotes from Malcom X:

"The war of Armageddon has already started... God is using his many weapons. He is sending hurricanes so fast that [the blue-eyed devils] can't name them. He is drowning them in floods and causing their cars to crash and their airplanes cannot stay up in the sky. Their boats are sinking because Allah controls all things and he is using all methods to begin to wipe the devils off the planet, [and] the enemy is dying of diseases that have never been so deadly."

"A new world order is in the making, and it is up to us to prepare ourselves that we may take our rightful place in it. "

"It is impossible for capitalism to survive, primarily because the system
of capitalism need some blood to suck....It used to be strong enough to go
and suck anybody's blood whether they were strong or not. But now it has
become more cowardly, like the vulture, and it can only suck the blood of
the helpless. As the nations of the world free themselves, then capitalism
has fewer victims, less to suck, and it becomes weaker and weaker. It is
only a matter of time in my opinion before it will collapse
completely."

AuH20
01-18-2010, 03:04 PM
Some more priceless quotes from Malcom X:

"The war of Armageddon has already started... God is using his many weapons. He is sending hurricanes so fast that [the blue-eyed devils] can't name them. He is drowning them in floods and causing their cars to crash and their airplanes cannot stay up in the sky. Their boats are sinking because Allah controls all things and he is using all methods to begin to wipe the devils off the planet, [and] the enemy is dying of diseases that have never been so deadly."

"A new world order is in the making, and it is up to us to prepare ourselves that we may take our rightful place in it. "

"It is impossible for capitalism to survive, primarily because the system
of capitalism need some blood to suck....It used to be strong enough to go
and suck anybody's blood whether they were strong or not. But now it has
become more cowardly, like the vulture, and it can only suck the blood of
the helpless. As the nations of the world free themselves, then capitalism
has fewer victims, less to suck, and it becomes weaker and weaker. It is
only a matter of time in my opinion before it will collapse
completely."

He was a black nationalist with a devotion to Allah. Not really a shock. As he grew older (most notably after his pilgrimage to Mecca), he dropped his more radical opinions of whites. He started looking at whites as fellow human beings as opposed to the enemy.

In regard to his third quote, he's completely in the right. State backed 'crony capitalism' will collapse the system eventually. Look at how state backed corporations raid the resources of the third world with unpayable loans.

FrankRep
01-18-2010, 03:18 PM
"I have the reservations you have, but here the perception of too many people is based on an image, not reality. Indeed, to them the perception is reality."

- Ronald Reagan on MLK, in a letter to the Governor of New Hampshire regarding King's ties to communism and utter lack of morality.

AuH20
01-18-2010, 03:27 PM
X was a religious based conservative. He preached self-determination:

http://cobb.typepad.com/cobb/2006/11/malcolm_x_relig.html


The platform that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, our religious leader, stands on is the platform of complete freedom, justice and equality for the 20 million black people or so-called Negroes here in America. And he teaches us that because of the seriousness of the condition that our people now find themselves in that it is absolutely impossible to solve our problems with means other than religion. And he teaches us that the religion of Islam is the only religion that will instill within our people the incentive to stand on our own feet. And instead of trying to force ourselves upon whites or force ourselves into the white society or blame the white man for our predicament and constantly beg him for what he has, he says that the only way that we can solve our problem is to unite together among ourselves, among our own kind, clean ourselves up, rid ourselves of the evils that we've become addicted to here in this society and try and solve our problem ourselves.