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FrankRep
01-15-2010, 05:13 PM
What are the chances that the GOP will win the late Sen. Edward Kennedy's (D-Mass.) Senate seat? (http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/76279-the-big-question-could-a-republican-really-win-kennedys-seat)


The Hill
Jan 15. 2010


John F. McManus, president of the John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/), said:

As a resident of Massachusetts, I can tell you that an upset win by Scott Brown for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by Ted Kennedy is highly unlikely though intensely desired. There is no mass media in the state that isn't pro-socialist, and therefore they are all pro-Coakley (the Democrat candidate) though some claim to be impartial. There are over 60 institutions of higher "leaning" (I mean left-leaning) in greater Boston and none produces constitutionalists or conservatives while all have a significant impact on the population. The same situation exists in other locales throughout the state. The Massachusetts delegation to Congress is likely the lost left-leaning in the nation.

I am questioned frequently by Americans who wonder how I can live in the Bay State. My answer is that I learned military tactics as an officer in the USMC and one that appealed to me is to work behind enemy lines. I do that and have made some inroads, but there is much work left to do.


SOURCE:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/76279-the-big-question-could-a-republican-really-win-kennedys-seat

Flash
01-15-2010, 05:19 PM
I'm sorry but the polls show them neck and neck, the newest with Brown leading by 4 points. "Highly unlikely" aren't the words to describe a Brown victory. Remember-- Massachusetts DOES vote for Republican Governors. The only reason why there hasn't been a Republican in the Senate for a very long time is due to Ted Kennedy & John Kerry. Both who have rockstar status in the Democratic Party.

parocks
01-15-2010, 05:25 PM
Did John F. McManus, president of the John Birch Society just
say that "an upset win by Scott Brown ... is ... intensely desired"

He must be a neocon, then, right?

I'm with the JBS on this, friends of Liberty.


What are the chances that the GOP will win the late Sen. Edward Kennedy's (D-Mass.) Senate seat? (http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/76279-the-big-question-could-a-republican-really-win-kennedys-seat)


The Hill
Jan 15. 2010


John F. McManus, president of the John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/), said:

As a resident of Massachusetts, I can tell you that an upset win by Scott Brown for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by Ted Kennedy is highly unlikely though intensely desired. There is no mass media in the state that isn't pro-socialist, and therefore they are all pro-Coakley (the Democrat candidate) though some claim to be impartial. There are over 60 institutions of higher "leaning" (I mean left-leaning) in greater Boston and none produces constitutionalists or conservatives while all have a significant impact on the population. The same situation exists in other locales throughout the state. The Massachusetts delegation to Congress is likely the lost left-leaning in the nation.

I am questioned frequently by Americans who wonder how I can live in the Bay State. My answer is that I learned military tactics as an officer in the USMC and one that appealed to me is to work behind enemy lines. I do that and have made some inroads, but there is much work left to do.


SOURCE:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/76279-the-big-question-could-a-republican-really-win-kennedys-seat

erowe1
01-15-2010, 05:27 PM
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John F. McManus, president of the John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/), said:

....There is no mass media in the state that isn't pro-socialist, and therefore they are all pro-Coakley

That's a non sequitur. If they're pro-socialist, then they should be pro-Brown.

parocks
01-15-2010, 05:35 PM
That's a non sequitur. If they're pro-socialist, then they should be pro-Brown.

Yeah, you've done as much for Liberty as McManus.

FrankRep
01-15-2010, 05:36 PM
That's a non sequitur. If they're pro-socialist, then they should be pro-Brown.
Scott Brown is a Neocon Republican who supports interventionism, but not really a Socialist though.

parocks
01-15-2010, 05:39 PM
Scott Brown is a Neocon Republican who supports interventionism, but not really a Socialist though.

Does that make McManus a neocon?

FrankRep
01-15-2010, 05:40 PM
Does that make McManus a neocon?
Not at all. John F. McManus is a Ron Paul supporter who's against all these stupid wars.

angelatc
01-15-2010, 05:42 PM
Not at all. John F. McManus is a Ron Paul supporter who's against all these stupid wars.

I am confused. Didn't McManus just indicate he wanted Brown to win?

parocks
01-15-2010, 05:44 PM
Not at all. John F. McManus is a Ron Paul supporter who's against all these stupid wars.

But he says that electing Scott Brown is "intensely desired." How can that be?

FrankRep
01-15-2010, 05:45 PM
I am confused. Didn't McManus just indicate he wanted Brown to win?
John McManus wants Scott Brown over Martha Coakley.

FrankRep
01-15-2010, 05:46 PM
But he says that electing Scott Brown is "intensely desired." How can that be?
Scott Brown is better than Martha Coakley.

parocks
01-15-2010, 06:06 PM
Scott Brown is better than Martha Coakley.

Well there you have it.

FrankRep
01-15-2010, 06:20 PM
Well there you have it.
Joe Kennedy (L) isn't going to win.
At least Scott Brown will throw a monkey wrench in Obama's healthcare.

jmdrake
01-15-2010, 06:33 PM
Joe Kennedy (L) isn't going to win.
At least Scott Brown will throw a monkey wrench in Obama's healthcare.

Only because Obama proposed it. He would vote for the exact same plan if a "president Romney" proposed it. Dennis Kucinich voted against Obamacare too, but he did it for principled reasons. I might disagree with D.K.s principles, but I respect the fact that he at least has some. A Scott Brown win may be tactically a good thing in the short run (seeing Obama scramble to Massachusetts for what should have been a sure thing is priceless) but it may cause problems for long term strategy especially if limited resource for liberty candidates get diverted to neocon "sure things".

parocks
01-15-2010, 07:28 PM
Joe Kennedy (L) isn't going to win.
At least Scott Brown will throw a monkey wrench in Obama's healthcare.

McManus said go with Brown, not Kennedy. Good enough for me.
The president of the John Birch Society.

Cowlesy
01-15-2010, 07:54 PM
If someone has lived in Massachusetts, I can understand why he's eager to get a Republican in a U.S. Senate seat given how long the Democrats have had them both.

Yes, that is Republican/Democrat baseball, ex'ing out the Libertarians.

Brown will probably be easier for McManus to get access to, and for him to promote the freedom agenda than Martha Coakley who'd probably never even grant him a sitdown.

Smart move by McManus (in the sense of future promoting of the freedom agenda).

Aratus
01-16-2010, 09:08 AM
ed brooke in 1979 hands his seat over to paul tsongas...
henry cabot lodge jr. in 1953 hands his seat over to JFK!

sarahgop
01-16-2010, 09:12 AM
Not at all. John F. McManus is a Ron Paul supporter who's against all these stupid wars.

he is also against deathcare. i have sent another donation to scott brown

sarahgop
01-16-2010, 09:13 AM
McManus said go with Brown, not Kennedy. Good enough for me.
The president of the John Birch Society.

a vote for kennedy is a vote for coakley.

Aratus
01-16-2010, 09:20 AM
our happy string of
Republican governors
after Mike Dukakis in 1989

--- William Weld ---

-- A. Paul Celluci ---

---- Jane Swift ----

--- Mitt Romney ---

Aratus
01-16-2010, 09:21 AM
at least our voters really try not to have our top
three offices go to only ONE of our political parties!

sarahgop
01-16-2010, 09:31 AM
pray for a scott brown miracle!!

Aratus
01-16-2010, 10:07 AM
the statistical two out of three ratio
that is historic and strems from the
days of james michael curley does
say that the seat may be impelled
Republican, again! john kerry is in
ed brooke's seat, and paul kirk is in
henry cabot lodge junior's seat!!!

Aratus
01-16-2010, 10:11 AM
pray for a scott brown miracle!!

sarahgop, you are not the only person who is exitedly and joyously awaiting the new poll results!
quite clearly scott brown is now on his knees and happily & fervently praying for a small miracle!!!

Aratus
01-16-2010, 01:53 PM
I am confused. Didn't McManus just indicate he wanted Brown to win?


Not at all. John F. McManus is a Ron Paul supporter who's against all these stupid wars.


But he says that electing Scott Brown is "intensely desired." How can that be?


John McManus wants Scott Brown over Martha Coakley.


Scott Brown is better than Martha Coakley.


Well there you have it.


Joe Kennedy (L) isn't going to win.
At least Scott Brown will throw a
monkey wrench in Obama's healthcare.


McManus said go with Brown, not Kennedy. Good enough for me.
The president of the John Birch Society.


...and if there has to be at least three or four recounts...

...i did shake joe kennedy's hand last month in faniuel hall...

...if i vote for joe kennedy, can i eventually be forgiven in this...?

lester1/2jr
01-16-2010, 03:21 PM
a vote for kennedy is a vote for coakley

lol because you say so?

Brian4Liberty
01-16-2010, 06:04 PM
Only because Obama proposed it. He would vote for the exact same plan if a "president Romney" proposed it.

Unfortunately true. His opposition to Government run Health Care is luke warm at best.

On the brighter side, he is adamantly against Cap and Trade. That is another huge battle to come.

parocks
01-16-2010, 07:54 PM
...and if there has to be at least three or four recounts...

...i did shake joe kennedy's hand last month in faniuel hall...

...if i vote for joe kennedy, can i eventually be forgiven in this...?

You aren't telling other people not to vote for Brown. I wouldn't attack Joe Kennedy's friends and family for voting for him. But killing 2 birds with one stone is getting people in Cambridge . . . It's like canceling your own vote out. Your vote which "should" go for Brown will go for Kennedy, and if you do something to get someone whose vote "should" go for Coakley to vote for Kennedy, the effect of those 2 votes cancelled each other out, and Kennedy gets 2 votes, which is a good thing. You've understood my argument all along. It really isn't that smart or clever.

angelatc
01-16-2010, 08:01 PM
a vote for kennedy is a vote for coakley.

I would vote for Kennedy for that very reason. If Kennedy could be the spoiler, then next time the GOP might spend a little more time trying to court our votes by actually addressing our place in the party.

Ignoring us until they need us, and then spitting out vile comments like "A vote for Kennedy os a vote for Coakley" shouldn't earn them a damned thing.

angelatc
01-16-2010, 08:03 PM
pray for a scott brown miracle!!

If I am going to pray for a miracle, I will pray for a Joe Kennedy miracle.

HOLLYWOOD
01-16-2010, 08:23 PM
BREAKING: Scott Brown Files Ethics Complaint Against SEIU


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: CONTACT: Felix Browne
January 16, 2010

MEDIA ADVISORY FOR TODAY

Dan Winslow, counsel for the Scott Brown for U.S. Senate campaign, will hold a media availability to announce the filing of a criminal complaint against the Massachusetts Democratic Party regarding a recent mailing paid for and sent by the Massachusetts Democratic Party. Winslow will make a statement and take reporters’ questions at MassGOP Headquarters in Boston TODAY at 4:00 PM.

Massachusetts GOP Headquarters
85 Merrimac Street, 4th Floor
Boston.

This Breaking News—– It involves the SEIU
FOX News Boston reported:

BOSTON – Republican Senate hopeful Scott Brown has filed a complaint with the State Ethics Commission after a report that a union backing rival Martha Coakley used state resources to urge workers to volunteer for Coakley’s campaign.

The report by FOX25 said the Service Employees International Union used state computers and e-mail addresses to direct state employees to volunteer for Coakley, the Democratic state attorney general.

Coakley’s campaign referred questions to the attorney general’s office. A spokeswoman said the attorney general’s office has received the letter from Brown’s attorney and will review it before commenting.

The SEIU did not immediately return a call for comment.

The Daily Gator has more on the charges. http://thedaleygator.wordpress.com/2010/....

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/201....

parocks
01-16-2010, 08:50 PM
The SEIU thing was a month or so ago. The Brown press conference was about the Dem flyer with turn them away. They got the story wrong.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/16/video-brown-camp-files-criminal-complaint-against-/



BREAKING: Scott Brown Files Ethics Complaint Against SEIU


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: CONTACT: Felix Browne
January 16, 2010

MEDIA ADVISORY FOR TODAY

Dan Winslow, counsel for the Scott Brown for U.S. Senate campaign, will hold a media availability to announce the filing of a criminal complaint against the Massachusetts Democratic Party regarding a recent mailing paid for and sent by the Massachusetts Democratic Party. Winslow will make a statement and take reporters’ questions at MassGOP Headquarters in Boston TODAY at 4:00 PM.

Massachusetts GOP Headquarters
85 Merrimac Street, 4th Floor
Boston.

This Breaking News—– It involves the SEIU
FOX News Boston reported:

BOSTON – Republican Senate hopeful Scott Brown has filed a complaint with the State Ethics Commission after a report that a union backing rival Martha Coakley used state resources to urge workers to volunteer for Coakley’s campaign.

The report by FOX25 said the Service Employees International Union used state computers and e-mail addresses to direct state employees to volunteer for Coakley, the Democratic state attorney general.

Coakley’s campaign referred questions to the attorney general’s office. A spokeswoman said the attorney general’s office has received the letter from Brown’s attorney and will review it before commenting.

The SEIU did not immediately return a call for comment.

The Daily Gator has more on the charges. http://thedaleygator.wordpress.com/2010/....

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/201....

Aratus
01-17-2010, 07:53 AM
...and if there has to be at least three or four recounts...

...i did shake joe kennedy's hand last month in faniuel hall...

...if i vote for joe kennedy, can i eventually be forgiven in this...?


You aren't telling other people not to vote for Brown. I wouldn't attack Joe Kennedy's friends and family for voting for him. But killing 2 birds with one stone is getting people in Cambridge . . . It's like canceling your own vote out. Your vote which "should" go for Brown will go for Kennedy, and if you do something to get someone whose vote "should" go for Coakley to vote for Kennedy, the effect of those 2 votes cancelled each other out, and Kennedy gets 2 votes, which is a good thing. You've understood my argument all along. It really isn't that smart or clever.


I PERSONALLY GAVE JOE KENNEDY MY WORD AS A VOTER.

I PERSONALLY FEEL HONOR BOUND SO I FEEL I CANNOT GO

BACK ON MY WORD. CALL ME OLD FASHIONED... I WILL NOT

BE VOTING FOR Ms. COAKLEY & UNTIL I SHOOK JOE KENNEDY's

HAND, I FELT I COULD HAVE VOTED FOR SCOTT BROWN HAPPILY...

~~~ http://www.spike.com/video/last-hurrah-trailer/2673483 ~~~

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