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Sematary
10-04-2007, 11:56 PM
I was on my first delivery of the evening when one of six or seven young men in the room asked me if I was the guy with "all the ron paul stickers on his car". I responded that I was and immediately asked "you know who Ron Paul is?". The response was overwhelming to me. The not only ALL knew who he was but had registered Republican for him and were spreading the word. They knew even more people who supported Ron Paul. This all amazed me because I NEVER see anyone in my area talking about or supporting Ron Paul. Needless to say. It made my night. :D

TechnoGuyRob
10-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Awesome!!! I told my mailman about Ron Paul and gave him a liberty card, and he said "Thanks," looked at it, and (very unexpectedly) handed it back to me.

:(

austin356
10-05-2007, 12:00 AM
Awesome!!! I told my mailman about Ron Paul and gave him a liberty card, and he said "Thanks," looked at it, and (very unexpectedly) handed it back to me.

:(


WTF?

Bradley in DC
10-05-2007, 12:01 AM
Awesome!!! I told my mailman about Ron Paul and gave him a liberty card, and he said "Thanks," looked at it, and (very unexpectedly) handed it back to me.

:(

NOT our target demographic: government workers for agencies we're eliminating. ;)

qsecofr
10-05-2007, 12:01 AM
When Ron gets to the primaries we better ENSURE he wins because much will be at stake...

do you think the Government will let the net remain free after the disruption we are about to cause it? I'm not saying it's going to be like China or anything but shit will most definitely be different.

Perry
10-05-2007, 12:19 AM
Awesome!!! I told my mailman about Ron Paul and gave him a liberty card, and he said "Thanks," looked at it, and (very unexpectedly) handed it back to me.

:(




:p:p Can't win'em all i guess. Lol

jonahtrainer
10-05-2007, 12:21 AM
Awesome!!! I told my mailman about Ron Paul and gave him a liberty card, and he said "Thanks," looked at it, and (very unexpectedly) handed it back to me.

:(


I got a mailman to watch the YouTube of the NH debate. He really liked Ron Paul. I gave him about 500 slim-jims. He is out now .... I wonder where they went. He said his neighbors liked them.

Nevertheless, I ordered 7,500 more slim-jims. Of course, he didn't put them in mailboxes because that may be inappropriate.

daviddee
10-05-2007, 12:35 AM
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Corydoras
10-05-2007, 12:43 AM
I was at the corner convenience store when I offered the clerk a Liberty Card. The moment he saw it, he exclaimed, "Ron Paul is the man!" I gave him a few more to give to people.

JosephTheLibertarian
10-05-2007, 04:13 AM
Awesome!!! I told my mailman about Ron Paul and gave him a liberty card, and he said "Thanks," looked at it, and (very unexpectedly) handed it back to me.

:(

mail men are socialists lol

LibertyEagle
10-05-2007, 04:50 AM
I live in an apartment complex and have a Ron Paul magnet on my front door. The other day I came home and saw a note on my door from the head of maintenance. It said, "Ron Paul RULES!" :)

I thought that was pretty neat, because it was about a month ago that I had been talking to him about Ron Paul and at that point, he hadn't heard of him. I guess he saw him in the FOX debate or looked him up.

Nefertiti
10-05-2007, 04:57 AM
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wgadget
10-05-2007, 06:11 AM
Awesome!!! I told my mailman about Ron Paul and gave him a liberty card, and he said "Thanks," looked at it, and (very unexpectedly) handed it back to me.

:(

I did the same for my mailman. Something tells me it's against their rules to take political donations, so to speak.

tekkierich
10-05-2007, 06:18 AM
Sometimes I feel like I am in Fight Club. Although the first rule of this Fight Club is to tell others about it.

TexMac
10-05-2007, 06:28 AM
I was on my first delivery of the evening when one of six or seven young men in the room asked me if I was the guy with "all the ron paul stickers on his car". I responded that I was and immediately asked "you know who Ron Paul is?". The response was overwhelming to me. The not only ALL knew who he was but had registered Republican for him and were spreading the word. They knew even more people who supported Ron Paul. This all amazed me because I NEVER see anyone in my area talking about or supporting Ron Paul. Needless to say. It made my night. :D

I had an area Time-Warner rep come knock on my door and ask about my yard signs. He said he was starting a meetup in his town!

starless
10-05-2007, 07:30 AM
NOT our target demographic: government workers for agencies we're eliminating. ;)

Actually the postal service is one of the only govt agencies that are allowed according to the Constitution.

JosephTheLibertarian
10-05-2007, 07:36 AM
where in the Constitution? Private enterprise would do it better

Sematary
10-05-2007, 07:38 AM
where in the Constitution? Private enterprise would do it better

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

Apparently, when they wrote the constitution, they felt that it was a necessary function of government.

Sematary
10-05-2007, 07:39 AM
where in the Constitution? Private enterprise would do it better

BTW - did you know that IF it were permitted (which it's not), the postal service could easily make a profit. The post office is run separate from the rest of the government and receives no funding from your taxes. It is self sufficient, in other words. I'd say it's doing pretty damn good.

DrNoZone
10-05-2007, 07:42 AM
NOT our target demographic: government workers for agencies we're eliminating. ;)

Actually, Ron Paul wouldn't eliminate the Post Office since that is a legitimate function of the federal government. But, he would allow competition, which might make the Post Office a lot less busy when it comes to delivering First Class mail.

uncloned21
10-05-2007, 07:45 AM
Actually, Ron Paul wouldn't eliminate the Post Office since that is a legitimate function of the federal government. But, he would allow competition, which might make the Post Office a lot less busy when it comes to delivering First Class mail.

I doubt anyone could beat the USPS in first class mail. $.41 to drive a letter 3,000 miles is hardly something to complain about! Their rates are cheaper on almost everything...now, whether they cheat...I don't know.

IRO-bot
10-05-2007, 07:47 AM
I love in Vero Beach, Florida and I still have yet to see a single other Ron Paul supporter.

Sematary
10-05-2007, 07:50 AM
I love in Vero Beach, Florida and I still have yet to see a single other Ron Paul supporter.

You need to change that

JosephTheLibertarian
10-05-2007, 07:51 AM
BTW - did you know that IF it were permitted (which it's not), the postal service could easily make a profit. The post office is run separate from the rest of the government and receives no funding from your taxes. It is self sufficient, in other words. I'd say it's doing pretty damn good.

and....? it may be the Constitution, but I don't think we need it. We should probably try to repeal that, but what's wrong with legalizing competition? That would be Constitutional :)

DrNoZone
10-05-2007, 07:52 AM
I doubt anyone could beat the USPS in first class mail. $.41 to drive a letter 3,000 miles is hardly something to complain about! Their rates are cheaper on almost everything...now, whether they cheat...I don't know.

Of course they cheat. Anything removed from the free market system cannot play fairly. But I've heard time and again that the Post Office is not self sufficient; they're in the red every year.

Here's a good article on LewRockwell about the Post Office and competition: http://www.lewrockwell.com/alston/alston21.html

From the article:

"One other point, before we begin our brainstormed list. There are some people who might argue that the USPS is an example of a government service that actually does work. The U.S. has the cheapest stamps of any country where the delivery of mail is ostensibly not subsidized. (The USPS is supposedly not directly subsidized via tax revenue. As such, one might argue that they actually have to be self-supporting in some sense.) In the print version of the Rochester local article, the reporter says, "USPS is regulated by the federal government but isn’t subsidized with tax money." Not quite.

Digging a little deeper provides the truth: the USPS is subsidized. One need only refer to the 2005 annual report to get some illustrative numbers. A line item showing as "U.S. government appropriations — received" lists an amount of $503 million. The 2003 annual report shows a similar line item with a similar heading. That line item lists an amount of $762 million. Call me a nitpicker, but those listings both sound suspiciously like, well, government appropriations, A.K.A. taxpayer investment, to me. Looking further into the 2005 annual report we find this.

"We commenced operations on July 1, 1971, in accordance with the provisions of the Postal Reorganization Act (the Act). The equity that the U.S. government held in the former Post Office Department became our initial capital. We valued the assets of the former Post Office Department at original cost less accumulated depreciation. The initial transfer of assets, including property, equipment and cash, totaled $1.7 billion. Subsequent cash contributions and transfers of assets between 1972 and 1982 totaled approximately $1.3 billion, resulting in total government contributions of approximately $3 billion."

So even without the (apparently) semi-annual infusions of "government appropriations" the USPS received something like $3 billion in "start-up" capital. That is about as far from "no taxpayer support" as one can get! Additionally, these are economic benefits that private companies such as FedEx, UPS, and DHL do not receive and they are still kicking the Post Office's butt in the realm where the USPS is not protected by fiat. (Have you seen the FedEx boxes placed outside the USPS recently?) Clearly the USPS benefits from government subsidy, no matter what they choose to call it. Now back to the question at hand: how might things be different with competition?"

Freedom
10-05-2007, 07:53 AM
I love in Vero Beach, Florida and I still have yet to see a single other Ron Paul supporter.

Okay, you get your kicks in Vero Beach, but where do you live? :D

Shiranu
10-05-2007, 07:55 AM
Okay, you get your kicks in Vero Beach, but where do you live? :D

Thats what I was thinking...:eek:

IRO-bot
10-05-2007, 08:37 AM
So my spelling sucks and I don't proof-read. You guys are harsh! I sure do get my loving in Vero Beach. I am getting married on the 27th of this month!

jumpyg1258
10-05-2007, 09:09 AM
NOT our target demographic: government workers for agencies we're eliminating. ;)

Don't think that way, I am in a potential agency Ron Paul will eliminate and I am supporting him for the benefit of our country.