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stu2002
01-14-2010, 03:03 PM
White Children Now A Minority In California, States Report (UPDATED)
By Dennis Romero in City News, Education, community, politicsFri., Jan. 8 2010 @ 4:25PM

​(UPDATED with Valley stats after the jump). Don't tell the producers of The Hills or any of the other youth-oriented television shows that seem to portray people of color as background noise in California, but for the Golden State's under-18 population whites are now a minority.

This according to U.S. Census data from 2000 to 2009 analyzed by the New York Times, which attributes the shift, in part, to higher birth rates among immigrants. The Golden State was among the top-ten states that saw increases under-18 populations.

The emergence of a nonwhite majority among children should be no surprise to Angelenos, who live in a city that is nearly 50 percent Latino. And, as LAist reported this week, Latinos have now edged out whites as the largest ethnic group in the once Leave It To Beaver-like San Fernando Valley.


http://http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/city-news/white-children-minority-ca/

BlackTerrel
01-14-2010, 03:35 PM
Yep. Been that way for a while.

Joseph de Maistre
01-14-2010, 03:57 PM
I'm sure these new Californians will be just as likely to support folks like Ron Paul. :rolleyes:

dannno
01-14-2010, 03:57 PM
YouTube - Eric Cartman - Minorities in my Waterpark - Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3jBMooa0TM)

Elwar
01-14-2010, 04:07 PM
As an individual, I am the smallest minority.

silverhandorder
01-14-2010, 04:17 PM
Special grants for whites? :p

someperson
01-14-2010, 04:27 PM
As an individual, I am the smallest minority.
+1 Well said.

BlackTerrel
01-14-2010, 05:46 PM
I'm sure these new Californians will be just as likely to support folks like Ron Paul. :rolleyes:

Because the majority of white people voted for Ron Paul of course. If not for those damn minorities he would have won. :rolleyes:

revolutionisnow
01-14-2010, 06:14 PM
Russians offered day off, prizes to procreate
Officials hope ‘Day of Conception’ will help turn around declining birthrate
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20268426/

Zippyjuan
01-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Getting paid for screwing around? Turning the whole country into a bunch of prostitutes, eh?

Joseph de Maistre
01-14-2010, 06:41 PM
Because the majority of white people voted for Ron Paul of course. If not for those damn minorities he would have won. :rolleyes:

Change that statement around..."the majority of people who supported Ron Paul were white." The vast majority. As vast as, let's say, the percentage of the black community that went for Obama.

It's unfortunate, but it is nonetheless a reality.

Let's face it: urban folks don't seem too interested in sound currency and the Constitution. So, when you're fishing, you want to go where the fishing's good. And it's not good in the inner city.

I shall let Mr. Buchanan state it more succinctly:

YouTube - Pat Buchanan on Snubbing Minority Voters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSem4cxNzms)

RM918
01-14-2010, 06:45 PM
And there's a clear undertone of celebration at this, as well, which if displayed anywhere else would be considered hateful.

Zippyjuan
01-14-2010, 06:53 PM
Pat does mention that this is only for the Republican primaries that he would not worry about minorities. In the piece he does say you need to act differently when you get to the general election. "If they are nominated then in the General Election they need to do the Hispanic and the African American thing"- you cannot ignore any blocks of voters if you want to win a general election. If hispanics are a majority you need to appeal to hispanic voters. If Ron Paul or any candidate sticks with white voters they will not be able to win.

denison
01-14-2010, 07:05 PM
I'm sure these new Californians will be just as likely to support folks like Ron Paul. :rolleyes:

get over it. i'm sure native americans hated eurotrash coming over in droves taking over there land, what goes around comes around as they say. :rolleyes:

Joseph de Maistre
01-14-2010, 07:18 PM
get over it. i'm sure native americans hated eurotrash coming over in droves taking over there land, what goes around comes around as they say. :rolleyes:

Somehow you justify the rampant socialism brought into the United States by illegal immigrants because "what goes around comes around."

Interesting logic. Yes, let's toss out our freedoms because Europeans planted flags on vacant lots.

revolutionisnow
01-14-2010, 07:21 PM
get over it. i'm sure native americans hated eurotrash coming over in droves taking over there land, what goes around comes around as they say. :rolleyes:

Not sure why you feel the need to use derogatory slurs, but what happened to the Native Americans should be used as a warning so it doesn't happen again.

torchbearer
01-14-2010, 07:23 PM
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torchbearer
01-14-2010, 07:25 PM
I'm sure these new Californians will be just as likely to support folks like Ron Paul. :rolleyes:

not if people in this movement keep treating them like *******. excuse my french. ;)
these are human beings we are talking about. living sovereigns.

LibForestPaul
01-14-2010, 07:25 PM
YouTube - Eric Cartman - Minorities in my Waterpark - Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3jBMooa0TM)

This is why I stopped going to Great Adventure....

awesome vid.

Joseph de Maistre
01-14-2010, 07:31 PM
not if people in this movement keep treating them like *******. excuse my french. ;)
these are human beings we are talking about. living sovereigns.

If we only treated them nicer, then maybe they would support sound currency and Austrian economics :D

95% of blacks voted for Obama. There are more opportunities for minorities in America today than ever before - they are no longer being treated like the N word.

Southron
01-14-2010, 07:34 PM
Just have 10 kids if you are worried about it.

People who love liberty should have as many as they can because its much easier to raise them up right than convert them after thirteen years of indoctrination.

BlackTerrel
01-14-2010, 11:13 PM
Change that statement around..."the majority of people who supported Ron Paul were white." The vast majority. As vast as, let's say, the percentage of the black community that went for Obama.

What percentage of white people voted for Ron Paul?


If we only treated them nicer, then maybe they would support sound currency and Austrian economics :D

95% of blacks voted for Obama. There are more opportunities for minorities in America today than ever before - they are no longer being treated like the N word.

Kind of similar numbers to the white evangelicals that voted for Bush isn't it? Compare white Southern Baptists who voted for Bush and black people who voted for Obama and I'd wager they're pretty similar.

South Park Fan
01-14-2010, 11:18 PM
I'm sure these new Californians will be just as likely to support folks like Ron Paul. :rolleyes:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/ron-paul-polling-african-americans.html

That should settle that.

Joseph de Maistre
01-14-2010, 11:20 PM
What percentage of white people voted for Ron Paul?

Probably negligible at best. I have no idea, but I doubt it could be more than 3%.


Kind of similar numbers to the white evangelicals that voted for Bush isn't it? Compare white Southern Baptists who voted for Bush and black people who voted for Obama and I'd wager they're pretty similar.

True enough.

Promontorium
01-15-2010, 12:20 AM
You should check my Bio for this forum, here it is in its entirety:

"19,852 people voted for Ron Paul in the general election. I was one of them."


The answer to the question "Who voted for Ron Paul?";

Fucking Nobody.


If Ron Paul or any candidate sticks with white voters they will not be able to win.

In what way has Ron Paul "Stuck" with "white" "voters"? I put those all in separate caps, because there's a hell of a lot of issues with that sentence.

1. Ron Paul speaks his mind. He's not bullshitting anyone. He has stuck with no one but himself. He is an individualist. Love him or hate him. He isn't pandering. And I would immediately denounce him if I thought he were.

2. What the hell is white? Do european immigrants count? Do Jews count? Whose racist standards are you basing this on? Because if we don't know, we can't be talking about the same arbitrary collective. If you follow the KKK's idea of white, it has to be a protestant, european and I think they don't count actual europeans, or people of Irish descent, but I have no idea. Are you following the Woodrow Wilson idea of white? They have to be rich, America born, male, and warmongering. Are you following the Salvadorian model? Anyone who is rich is white, and actual skin hue doesn't matter. I could go on and on, pick any color, and I could tell you how fundamentally racist it is.

3. As I showed in my first point. Nobody voted for Ron Paul. And Ron Paul didn't seem to care. As far as Ron Paul looks for votes, extends not a day's walk further than Galveston Texas. Ron Paul doesn't speak to get votes, he has focused his entire political life to try to save this nation.


It's true, a lot of socialists are coming into America, but as far as I can tell, they aren't coming with a new or minority ideology.



It is as was said, as Ayn Rand said; the individual is the smallest minority.

I think now, sadly in this nation, the individualists are also a minority.

revolutionisnow
01-15-2010, 12:38 AM
You should check my Bio for this forum, here it is in its entirety:

"19,852 people voted for Ron Paul in the general election. I was one of them."


The answer to the question "Who voted for Ron Paul?";

Fucking Nobody.



Why would people vote for him in the general election, when they knew that their vote would not even be counted? Here are the 3rd party results of people who were actually on the ballot.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/allcandidates/

Ralph Nader: 672,774

Bob Barr: 497,206

Chuck Baldwin: 179,035

Cynthia McKinney: 145,725

someperson
01-15-2010, 12:44 AM
I think now, sadly in this nation, the individualists are also a minority.
I feel that may now be the case on these forums, as well. :(

Lord Xar
01-15-2010, 02:26 AM
Because the majority of white people voted for Ron Paul of course. If not for those damn minorities he would have won. :rolleyes:

Nope, but minorities luv them some big gubment cheese. Its their culture and their mentality (as it pertains to the U.S.). They've been enslaved, most of them, and they have no idea. Slavery came riding in on fancy words & promises, and entwined them in a continual state of entitlement, victimhood and in need of saving.

These "new" immigrants will overwhelmingly vote left (as they have) and the downward spiral will continue. It is of no surprise that blacks and now latinos, to a huge degree, vote left. It's all part of the agenda.

BlackTerrel
01-15-2010, 03:28 PM
Nope, but minorities luv them some big gubment cheese. Its their culture and their mentality (as it pertains to the U.S.). They've been enslaved, most of them, and they have no idea. Slavery came riding in on fancy words & promises, and entwined them in a continual state of entitlement, victimhood and in need of saving.

These "new" immigrants will overwhelmingly vote left (as they have) and the downward spiral will continue. It is of no surprise that blacks and now latinos, to a huge degree, vote left. It's all part of the agenda.

And the white evangelicals who have been here since the Mayflower vote for George Bush. Why is that any better?

Dieseler
01-15-2010, 03:31 PM
And the white evangelicals who have been here since the Mayflower vote for George Bush. Why is that any better?

Well you have to admit that he run on a really good platform when he was elected the first time Terrel and I chalk his second up to 911. Some people were out right afraid of changing admins during the mess that was going on and had it not been for 911 I seriously doubt he would have gotten that second term.

1st term, good platform.
2nd term, Fear.

Dunedain
01-15-2010, 03:32 PM
Slavery came riding in on fancy words & promises, and entwined them in a continual state of entitlement, victimhood and in need of saving.


then "Slavery Reparations" turned into "Federal Welfare"

jmdrake
01-15-2010, 07:06 PM
Change that statement around..."the majority of people who supported Ron Paul were white." The vast majority. As vast as, let's say, the percentage of the black community that went for Obama.

It's unfortunate, but it is nonetheless a reality.

Let's face it: urban folks don't seem too interested in sound currency and the Constitution. So, when you're fishing, you want to go where the fishing's good. And it's not good in the inner city.

I shall let Mr. Buchanan state it more succinctly:


Ron Paul got more black supporters than any other republican candidate, including Alan Keyes who is black himself. That despite the racist newsletter controversy. Of course people like yourself who play the race care constantly don't help matters much.

jmdrake
01-15-2010, 07:12 PM
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/ron-paul-polling-african-americans.html

That should settle that.

Good find! So 31% of African Americans would choose Ron Paul over Obama? And we aren't screaming that off the rooftops? Really I shouldn't be surprised. Some in my community ridiculed me back in 2008. Not anymore!

Joseph de Maistre
01-15-2010, 07:22 PM
Ron Paul got more black supporters than any other republican candidate, including Alan Keyes who is black himself. That despite the racist newsletter controversy. Of course people like yourself who play the race care constantly don't help matters much.

That is a fabrication.

Take a second and read what that website actually says, besides the headline:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/ron-paul-polling-african-americans.html

Candidate in General Election
Black Voters

John McCain 16%
Barack Obama 75%

Ron Paul 31%
Barack Obama 61%

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Okay, so that poll claims that Ron Paul would have gotten 31%, while McCain would have gotten 16% among blacks. Whoopy doo, he still would have been destroyed and the black increase would have made no difference.

Nevertheless, it also claims that Obama would have received 75% of the black vote against McCain.

Well, that's not what happened anyway!

We KNOW what Obama received from the black vote:


Fully 96 percent of black voters supported Obama

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html

That's a full 21% difference between that poll that you all are hocking and the actual outcome in the election between Obama and McCain. That poll is unrepresentative and clearly does not indicate what would have actually happened in the election - it should show 96% for Obama, 4% for McCain.

Now, would RP have gotten 5%? 10% from blacks?

Would it have made a damn bit of difference?

So, I ask you again: why in the hell would RP waste resources trying to get votes from urban folks?

BlackTerrel
01-15-2010, 07:31 PM
Well you have to admit that he run on a really good platform when he was elected the first time Terrel and I chalk his second up to 911. Some people were out right afraid of changing admins during the mess that was going on and had it not been for 911 I seriously doubt he would have gotten that second term.

1st term, good platform.
2nd term, Fear.

Whatever the reasons it is what it is. I think if you ran Ron Paul against Obama among black voters, he would probably poll as well as he would against Mike Huckabee among white evangelicals.

So blacks get you Obama and white evangelicals get you Huckabee. Which is better or worse?

I'd say both suck. So the solution is to say we have to stop blaming certain groups and just go after everyone.

jmdrake
01-15-2010, 07:36 PM
That is a fabrication.


No it isn't. You just can't accept anything outside your own narrow viewpoint. The poll in question was taken in 2007 before the economy collapsed and McCain "suspended his campaign". McCain didn't deserve to get any votes after that stunt black or white.