Sarah Palin: "No One is Bringing Light to the Fed Like You Glenn."

[haaaylee]

Missed some of it but were they referring to the Federal Reserve versus Federal Government-- and if so, WTF!

[speciallyblend]

can anyone say neo-con ass kisser. everyone needs to call out palin and beck(beck is talking head neo-con tool). she is told to say this crap!!!!! she doesn't believe in this. this is her handlers trying to make her out to be something she isn't nor can be.. if the gop goes the palin way. i hope the gop loses.. beck and palin are all tools in trying to fool the ron paul supporters and republicans into the tea party/gop neo-con movement.
hopefully people are not buying this crap,but fox viewerzs usually do,oo well

[Theriot]

Next thing you know she will give herself credit for starting the Tea Party movement. Even though they started with Ron is 2007, not the establishment in 2009.

[speciallyblend]

Next thing you know she will give herself credit for starting the Tea Party movement. Even though they started with Ron is 2007, not the establishment in 2009.

the fact beck didn't call out the bs palin said. shows he is full of crap like the neo-cons. he should of called palin out on that bs!! he is helping the neo-cons by allowing them to basically lie on his show and mis-inform folks. he is able to let folks lie on his show. then i view a liar as a liar enabling a liar!!!

[Mini-Me]

The good news is, the more they start ignoring the elephant in the room again (Ron Paul), the easier it will be once again to demonstrate why the MSM is full of shit.

[speciallyblend]

The good news is, the more they start ignoring the elephant in the room again (Ron Paul), the easier it will be once again to demonstrate why the MSM is full of shit.

hahah yep that is a fact jack;) look what happened laST TIME THEY IGNORED rON pAUL, THEY(REPUBLICANS) LOST THEIR ASSES IN MANY ELECTIONS. i WOULD LIKE TO THANK REPUBLICANS FOR MAKING SURE THEY KEEP THE FAILED GOP IN CHECK AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. OOOPS CAPS

[parocks]

Missed some of it but were they referring to the Federal Reserve versus Federal Government-- and if so, WTF!

It would be best I'd figure if she mentioned Ron Paul there.

On the other hand, she took the pro Audit the Fed position. So, she's in agreement with Ron Paul on that issue.

[Paulfan05]

I think she was talking about media personalities......still pretty lame though

[parocks]

Next thing you know she will give herself credit for starting the Tea Party movement. Even though they started with Ron is 2007, not the establishment in 2009.

Some Tea Partiers think that Libertarians are trying to take over the Conservative Tea Party movement.

[Andrew-Austin]

Beck didn't know shit about the Fed until when... half a year ago?

[Liberty Star]

two neocons kissing each other

[haaaylee]

It would be best I'd figure if she mentioned Ron Paul there.

On the other hand, she took the pro Audit the Fed position. So, she's in agreement with Ron Paul on that issue.


Yeah, they did mention opening the books so clearly it was a reference to the Federal Reserve. Ridiculous she gave Glenn credit. Hope he is still reading this forum . . .


Also, he has been sounding like he is gonna cry this entire show.

[ctiger2]

She's clearly being paid to say things like this. Palin has no clue who or what the Fed is or does.

[parocks]

She's clearly being paid to say things like this. Palin has no clue who or what the Fed is or does.

Palin and Beck have offered to cohost SNL

[purplechoe]

http://www.politicallore.com/images/GOP_Sinking_Ship.jpg

http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Humor/beck-palin-books.jpg

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/sarah-palin-glenn-beck.jpg

[Mini-Me]

She's clearly being paid to say things like this. Palin has no clue who or what the Fed is or does.

As completely obvious as this point is, it escaped me until you mentioned it. You're absolutely correct...Sarah Palin truly would not personally have any clue what the Fed is or does.

[ctiger2]

As completely obvious as this point is, it escaped me until you mentioned it. You're absolutely correct...Sarah Palin truly would not personally have any clue what the Fed is or does.

Paid or Advised to say it. Someone smarter than her is telling her to talk about it. It's obvious. I bet they're on the forum right now picking the next Liberty topic for her to mention. I'm guessing Sound Money aka: The Gold standard OR The Patriot Act.

[new momentum]

I will lose all faith in America if this bimbo is elected president. It's really discouraging to realize that most people buy this bullshit.

[speciallyblend]

Palin for Legalized Marijuana ;) and then the next question from her is? what is marijuana?? a spice?? then she quotes "the spice is life" someone told her that from Hollywood;)

[speciallyblend]

I will lose all faith in America if this bimbo is elected president. It's really discouraging to realize that most people buy this bullshit.

classic first post and i was thinking the samething, welcome to rpf;) palin is a disgrace to all women!! and womens intelligence!!!

[new momentum]

Thanks! Great to be here.

[LibertyEagle]

can anyone say neo-con ass kisser. everyone needs to call out palin and beck(beck is talking head neo-con tool). she is told to say this crap!!!!! she doesn't believe in this. this is her handlers trying to make her out to be something she isn't nor can be.. if the gop goes the palin way. i hope the gop loses.. beck and palin are all tools in trying to fool the ron paul supporters and republicans into the tea party/gop neo-con movement.
hopefully people are not buying this crap,but fox viewerzs usually do,oo well

Judge Napolitano kisses Beck's ass too. Is he a tool also?

[catdd]

Some Tea Partiers think that Libertarians are trying to take over the Conservative Tea Party movement.


Sheeesh. Rush had a lot to do with that telling all his adoring fans that the Tea Party was THEIR grassroots movement/idea/thingie.

[sofia]

RP writes a bestseller on the FED, and these two pieces of neo con shit wanna take credit for 'exposing the FED"

[catdd]

??

[speciallyblend]

Judge Napolitano kisses Beck's ass too. Is he a tool also?

well if judge was like beck i would say yes,but that is like comparing apples to oranges! so no

the judge would of called out palin for what she said

[speciallyblend]

RP writes a bestseller on the FED, and these two pieces of neo con shit wanna take credit for 'exposing the FED"

exactly what i thought, the judge would of said what you said if palin tried that crap but nicer of course;)

[low preference guy]

I will lose all faith in America if this bimbo is elected president. It's really discouraging to realize that most people buy this bullshit.

Obama is worse than Palin, so you should've probably lost your faith already. Palin is clueless, she does damage randomly. Obama destroys systematically.

[speciallyblend]

Sheeesh. Rush had a lot to do with that telling all his adoring fans that the Tea Party was THEIR grassroots movement/idea/thingie.
i hear you'
rush is not a republican, he is a neo-con mouth!! sad that many republicans think he good for our movement. rush is like listening to charlie browns grandma whaaa whaaaa or was it the teacher wahhhh wahhh wahhh... when rush talks about our issues , it is to try to save his ass nothing more. beck and rush are what i call false prophets!

[speciallyblend]

Obama is worse than Palin, so you should've probably lost your faith already. Palin is clueless, she does damage randomly. Obama destroys systematically.

honestly the only ones to blame for obama are the failed gop and to be honest ,i care less who the dems run. I will never vote for a neo-con republican . even if god told me to!!even if the dems ran an alien(someone not from earth not illegals;) i wouldnt vote republican if they are running anyone close to a neo-con, Ron Paul 2012

[purplechoe]

the judge would of called out palin for what she said

YouTube - Fixed News' Napolitano Says Caribou Barbie Doesn't Have Mental Capacity to be President (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zwW7bm6QRc)

[speciallyblend]

YouTube - Fixed News' Napolitano Says Caribou Barbie Doesn't Have Mental Capacity to be President (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zwW7bm6QRc)

thank you, it is hard to even listen to that you tube. if i was a woman i would be angry and embarrassed that they would try to relate her running for women or even representing the female sex.

[low preference guy]

speciallyblend, I agree with you. Even is Palin was marginally better than Obama, I would prefer Obama to be president because it gives us a small chance to reform the GOP.

[low preference guy]

Did Glenn Beck get a courtesy copy of "End the Fed"? Maybe we should arrange one?

[purplechoe]

thank you, it is hard to even listen to that you tube. if i was a woman i would be angry and embarrassed that they would try to relate her running for women or even representing a female.

http://womenagainstsarahpalin.org/bush-morphs-to-palin.jpg

http://blog.silive.com/sinotebook/2008/09/0909-palin-mccain.jpg

[speciallyblend]

speciallyblend, I agree with you. Even is Palin was marginally better than Obama, I would prefer Obama to be president because it gives us a small chance to reform the GOP.

yep, that is my line of thinking, do not reward the gop with power until they change and just saying they are changing or using palin to say they are changing is non-sense, vote'em out until they reform truly!!

[catdd]

Obama could be a great President, but he has to man-up and stop allowing Rahm Emanuel to run the show. How long can he keep telling - even STUPID PEOPLE - that the economy is GWB's fault while he is doing exactly the same thing? He has to know he can't keep running that lie forever.

Obama has been in there long enough now to know what is happening and he is going to have to make a choice - does he want to go down in history as being a cowardly goof that looks down and shuffles his feet while Emanuel scolds him , or does he want to cut his ties to the people that bought him the presidency and do the right thing?
I hear he admires JFK... well if he does, he needs to start acting like JFK - even if they kill him.
At least then he will have earned the respect of the entire nation.

[parocks]

Yeah, it sucks that Palin isn't a hardcore conspiracy theorist. People that talk in a detailed and informed manner about the role of the Rothschilds in global events so often win major elections. ;)


Ask her what a Rothschild is and she'll tell you it's "some kind of candy bar".

[new momentum]

It's kinda sad that the debate is about who would do the least damage to this country.

[Mini-Me]

Obama could be a great President, but he has to man-up and stop allowing Rahm Emanuel to run the show. How long can he keep telling - even STUPID PEOPLE - that the economy is GWB's fault while he is doing exactly the same thing? He has to know he can't keep running that lie forever.

Obama has been in there long enough now to know what is happening and he is going to have to make a choice - does he want to go down in history as being a cowardly goof that looks down and shuffles his feet while Emanuel scolds him , or does he want to cut his ties to the people that bought him the presidency and do the right thing?
I hear he admires JFK... well if he does, he needs to start acting like JFK - even if they kill him.
At least then he will have earned the respect of the entire nation.

You could say this about literally any sitting President we've had throughout our entire lives though. Every single one technically had the potential to be great, had they changed their ways entirely. All it really takes to merit that claim is holding a position of power and maintaining a pulse.

[catdd]

Yeah, it sucks that Palin isn't a hardcore conspiracy theorist. People that talk in a detailed and informed manner about the role of the Rothschilds in global events so often win major elections. ;)


One does not need to look for conspiracy theories when discussing that family, since the truth is bad enough.

[purplechoe]

Yeah, it sucks that Palin isn't a hardcore conspiracy theorist.

It's not a conspiracy, it's con's piracy:

http://www.piratenews.org/great-cons-piracy.jpg

http://www.fontcraft.com/images/paul.jpg

YouTube - Flashback: Treasonous Clinton puppet tells us "There is no Freedom" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM0c8MfsxBU)
:)
YouTube - Bush screw up, part 567 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91oBxESzpUk)

[catdd]

Bush - major screw-up!

[purplechoe]

Speaking of "conspiracy":

Lincoln and Kennedy

Here's a little part of US history which makes you sit up and go hmm...

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford's".
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln - made by Ford Motor Co".

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.

Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

:)

[TortoiseDream]

Yeah, it sucks that Palin isn't a hardcore conspiracy theorist. People that talk in a detailed and informed manner about the role of the Rothschilds in global events so often win major elections. ;)

That may be true, but it's doesn't invalidate his point: she's an idiot.

[catdd]

You could say this about literally any sitting President we've had throughout our entire lives though. Every single one technically had the potential to be great, had they changed their ways entirely. All it really takes to merit that claim is holding a position of power and maintaining a pulse.


This is true but there has never been a more perilous time for this country, nor has there been a time when we more desperately need a president to show some signs of greatness.

[Flash]

Some Tea Partiers think that Libertarians are trying to take over the Conservative Tea Party movement.

The tea party movement was started by small-government conservatives, who would be-- Libertarians.

[tonesforjonesbones]

I wish the obama bots would get the F off this forum...it's been infiltrated with stupid socialists...tones

[speciallyblend]

I wish the obama bots would get the F off this forum...it's been infiltrated with stupid socialists...tones

where are obama bots?? i haven't seen any???

[sofia]

I wish the obama bots would get the F off this forum...it's been infiltrated with stupid socialists...tones

Sarah is the socialist...a money grubbing, attention seeking neo con phony....George bush in a skirt

[catdd]

where are obama bots?? i haven't seen any???


I saw one earlier, it had fangs and long sharp claws.

[speciallyblend]

I saw one earlier, it had fangs and long sharp claws.

hehe;) you sure that wasn't micheal steele in drag???

[TheConstitutionLives]

Paid or Advised to say it. Someone smarter than her is telling her to talk about it. It's obvious. I bet they're on the forum right now picking the next Liberty topic for her to mention. I'm guessing Sound Money aka: The Gold standard OR The Patriot Act.

She isn't being "paid" to say it. Someone said "You're going on Beck. These are issues he focuses on". Simple as that. The lady is an idiot. She's not being "paid" to say this stuff. She's merely telling people what they want to hear.

[TheConstitutionLives]

Ask her what a Rothschild is and she'll tell you it's "some kind of candy bar".

That was dumb.

[jmdrake]

Next thing you know she will give herself credit for starting the Tea Party movement. Even though they started with Ron is 2007, not the establishment in 2009.

Wrong! They started in 2006 with the 9/11 truthers.

http://www.boston911truth.org/teaparty/

We can't complain about the neocons not giving us credit if we won't give credit to those who really started the modern tea party movement.

[catdd]

That was dumb.

Well, ya know, life is like a Rorschach blotch. It is whatever you make of it.

[fj45lvr]

I will lose all faith in America if this bimbo is elected president. It's really discouraging to realize that most people buy this bullshit.

Don't worry about it....she has no chance of ever getting elected.

[fj45lvr]

She isn't being "paid" to say it. Someone said "You're going on Beck. These are issues he focuses on". Simple as that. The lady is an idiot. She's not being "paid" to say this stuff. She's merely telling people what they want to hear.

They don't let these people go "on air" without the producers having input into what the content is going to be.

[Toureg89]

any youtube links.

i'd REALLY like to post this on a local neocon gun forum and stir some shit up. lol. but seriously, neocons need to open their eyes.

[purplechoe]

any youtube links.

i'd REALLY like to post this on a local neocon gun forum and stir some shit up. lol. but seriously, neocons need to open their eyes.

YouTube - Glenn Beck Show - January 13, 2010 - Pt 1 of 7 - Sarah Palin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESEHg0_u0ws)

YouTube - Glenn Beck Show - January 13, 2010 - Pt 2 of 7 - Sarah Palin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERGj0QHUm8)

YouTube - Glenn Beck Show - January 13, 2010 - Pt 3 of 7 - Sarah Palin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tS7lvIKDVY)

YouTube - Glenn Beck Show - January 13, 2010 - Pt 4 of 7 - Sarah Palin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6q86H4CXOo)

YouTube - Glenn Beck Show - January 13, 2010 - Pt 5 of 7 - Sarah Palin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne7Fnnj8LMw)

YouTube - Glenn Beck Show - January 13, 2010 - Pt 6 of 7 - Sarah Palin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eK361voGMw)

YouTube - Glenn Beck Show - January 13, 2010 - Pt 7 of 7 - Sarah Palin Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiiF1ZgDGJQ)

now excuse me while I go and wash myself...

http://redstatepatriot.com/GOPSuicide.jpg

http://www.politicallore.com/images/GOP_Sinking_Ship.jpg

[Dianne]

Palin doesn't know what the Fed is... lmao.... maybe she and Glenn can go in the back room and ask the Saudi Arabian Prince that owns 1/3 of FOX News. Hopefully he flys over Alaska, which gives Sarah lots of foreign policy experience.

[haaaylee]

Speaking of "conspiracy":

Lincoln and Kennedy

Here's a little part of US history which makes you sit up and go hmm...

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford's".
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln - made by Ford Motor Co".

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.

Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

:)

This reminds me, i've been needing to rent "Conspiracy Theory" starring Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts for awhile. Good flick!

[MichelleHeart]

i wish the obama bots would get the f off this forum...it's been infiltrated with stupid socialists...tones

I couldn't agree more.

[PreDeadMan]

lol.... Glen Beck didn't bring legislation to congress Sarah Palin but RON PAUL. HE BROUGHT THE FED ISSUE TO LIGHT!!!!RON HAS BEEN HOLDING HIS HANDS UP IN THE CLASSROOM for 30 years waiting for people to call on him to expose the fed!!! Palin go read your cue cards and speak on your propaganda station

[Bman]

Is Sarah Palin a liberty candidate? Hell No!!!

Tell this neo-con to STFU and move on.

She doesn't deserve our attention.

[Free Moral Agent]

palin doesn't know what the fed is... Lmao.... Maybe she and glenn can go in the back room and ask the saudi arabian prince that owns 1/3 of fox news. Hopefully he flys over alaska, which gives sarah lots of foreign policy experience.

lol!

[parocks]

I wish the obama bots would get the F off this forum...it's been infiltrated with stupid socialists...tones

I agree with you as well.

Romney, Palin, Huckabee, all the rest of them have supporters, as of course Ron Paul does. Supporters of those candidates think that Ron Paul could run in 2012.
Those supporters aren't too interested in having undecided Republicans think favorably about Ron Paul, they don't want people voting for Ron Paul instead of their guy. So they go to other Republican / Conservative websites and post about the anti Republican hate that is taking place around here.

You read this website and it's fairly clear that Ron Paul supporters hate Republicans.

If Ron Paul was going to run for President in 2012 as a Republican, to try to get the Republican nomination, he's pretty much doomed at this point, or extremely close to doomed.

If Ron Paul was going to go for the Republican nod in 2012, he'd be in better shape if he was able to shut down this website. It hurts him a lot more than it helps.

[parocks]

Lincoln printed the Greenback
Kennedy printed the United States Note


Speaking of "conspiracy":

Lincoln and Kennedy

Here's a little part of US history which makes you sit up and go hmm...

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford's".
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln - made by Ford Motor Co".

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.

Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

:)

[parocks]

Don't worry about it....she has no chance of ever getting elected.

Who do you think has the greatest chance of being elected - top 5?

[parocks]

The tea party movement was started by small-government conservatives, who would be-- Libertarians.

Some think that the tea party movement was started in 2007 by us. The people who think that are some of us.

Others think that it started in 2009 after Obama started doing a whole bunch of crazy shit that some people didn't like. The basic theme of the tea party movement in 2009 was "I would like Obama to stop doing all this crazy shit I don't like". Some Ron Paul supporters, Libertarians were involved, but pretty much everybody who was pissed off at Obamas crazy shit was involved.

Here's a link to a google search of pics of the 9/12 march on washington to get an idea about where my analysis is coming from
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=9+12+march+on+washington&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=G95OS9bjJoa7lAelieWnCg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCEQsAQwAw

The main thing that Ron Paul uniquely contributed was a revitilization of Revolutionary War era symbolism, primarily in the use of the words "tea party" The policy areas where RP clearly differs from standard conservativism - Antiwar, gold standard / fed, drugs, etc. weren't at the center of the
tea party movement c. 2009. It was basic Republican stuff, limited government, "This march is about opposing big government
tax and spend policies". Which is what Republicans typically say year in and year out. The typical, usual, mainstream republican message.

[Bman]

So they go to other Republican / Conservative websites and post about the anti Republican hate that is taking place around here.

You read this website and it's fairly clear that Ron Paul supporters hate Republicans.


I call B.S. Unless you got tons of links to back it up.

It's pretty clear Ron Paul supporters hate RINO's. There is a difference.

[fj45lvr]

You read this website and it's fairly clear that Ron Paul supporters hate Republicans.

If Ron Paul was going to run for President in 2012 as a Republican, to try to get the Republican nomination, he's pretty much doomed at this point, or extremely close to doomed.

If Ron Paul was going to go for the Republican nod in 2012, he'd be in better shape if he was able to shut down this website. It hurts him a lot more than it helps.


Pure BS.

I don't hate republicans. I am disappointed in them that's for sure but don't hate..... it's SOME republicans that have BAD ideas and are owned and "sold out" to the real people that run this country.

Read Pat Buchanan's book "where the Right went Wrong" .....does pat hate republicans too???

Unfortunately we have a 2 party political system (rigged by the PTB). Hopefully that "system" crumbles in the near future. Hell, hopefully the Union dissolves too.

[fj45lvr]

Who do you think has the greatest chance of being elected - top 5?


How would I know that?? I just know that Palin is a woman, a quitter, and rightfully ridiculed by the left....she has no chance of being POTUS.

[Bman]

I wish the obama bots would get the F off this forum...it's been infiltrated with stupid socialists...tones

I must say I am surprised to hear you stick up for a Zionist. Has hell forze over, and night turned to day? I'm in shock.

[parocks]

Palin in recent polls has the highest favorables among Republicans. That gives her an advantage going into 2012 if she chooses to run.

I'd call her the Republican front runner - put that's just an opinion at this point.

Unless the economy improves a lot, Obama won't win in 2012.

That you don't like Palin doesn't mean that she has "no chance" to win, especially since you have come up with no argument in favor of another candidate.



How would I know that?? I just know that Palin is a woman, a quitter, and rightfully ridiculed by the left....she has no chance of being POTUS.

[parocks]

I call B.S. Unless you got tons of links to back it up.

It's pretty clear Ron Paul supporters hate RINO's. There is a difference.

Well, I'm not sure I'm going to try to find tons of links, but what precise statement that I made would you want me to defend with links?

Ron Paul supporters (here) typically call Republicans they don't like "neocons" Neocon is a term used most often these days by Democrats (and many Ron Paul supporters here). From what I've been able to gather, a Republican is a "neocon" if they're at all more prowar than Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the single most antiwar Republican there is. That makes every single other Republican a neocon. And Ron Paul supporters hate neocons.

Now, I'll modify the above statements. Not every single other Republican, but at least 90%. And people are not shy about their distaste for neocons either.

RINO is a term that mainstream republicans and conservative republicans use for republicans that are insufficiently conservative on any number of issues. I use it here, but it's not used here anywhere near as often as neocon.

[parocks]

I contributed to Pat Buchanan back in the day. Go Pat Go!

I'm not saying that you personally hate Republicans. But theres a lot of people who hate neocons. And neocon is defined (apparently, by many here) as anyone who is more prowar than Ron Paul. Almost all Republicans are more prowar than Paul, and therefore neocons.




Pure BS.

I don't hate republicans. I am disappointed in them that's for sure but don't hate..... it's SOME republicans that have BAD ideas and are owned and "sold out" to the real people that run this country.

Read Pat Buchanan's book "where the Right went Wrong" .....does pat hate republicans too???

Unfortunately we have a 2 party political system (rigged by the PTB). Hopefully that "system" crumbles in the near future. Hell, hopefully the Union dissolves too.

[Bman]

Well, I'm not sure I'm going to try to find tons of links, but what precise statement that I made would you want me to defend with links?

Ron Paul supporters (here) typically call Republicans they don't like "neocons" Neocon is a term used most often these days by Democrats (and many Ron Paul supporters here). From what I've been able to gather, a Republican is a "neocon" if they're at all more prowar than Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the single most antiwar Republican there is. That makes every single other Republican a neocon. And Ron Paul supporters hate neocons.

Now, I'll modify the above statements. Not every single other Republican, but at least 90%. And people are not shy about their distaste for neocons either.

RINO is a term that mainstream republicans and conservative republicans use for republicans that are insufficiently conservative on any number of issues. I use it here, but it's not used here anywhere near as often as neocon.

But that's wrong. Your saying pretty much if all wittles are zoogies, and all zoogies are tillies, that some tilles are puffies.

Yes certain terms get thrown around here far too often. I won't disagree. What I would disagree with is what exactly does us most harm.

Not to mention a fair amout of people who come here are Republicans, myself included. I certainly do not hate myself or other Republicans, per se, I mean I may hate someone who happens to be republican, but it won't be because they are republican. I find myself in disagreement with other people who call themselves Republicans, heck on some level I'm probably at odds with everyone alive, that is why we are individuals. Yes we certainly don't like pro-war Republicans, but to call all Republicans pro-war is utter nonsense. Sure a bunch of elected officials seem to be pro-war, but that hardly reflects on the base when your other option is a spend happy hiney hobbit.

We're two sides of a coin at the moment. We are just the ones out of power, but in the land of ideas our day is coming. There are plenty more peace loving Republicans out there than you are giving credit to.

[catdd]

parocks
"You read this website and it's fairly clear that Ron Paul supporters hate Republicans."

I think it's fairly clear that we haven't been swallowed whole by the 2-party system the way you seem to be. I also think it's clear that at least half of the Republicans detest Ron Paul and liberty candidates and supporters.
I believe Paul supporters have good reason to harbor ill feelings and mistrust of the right.
And this idea that "If you don't like republicans, you must be a liberal is proof enough that some people here are so far right that they can't even see that the left and right are just two sides of the same coin. You have to be able to step back and see the entire picture.

[Eric21ND]

What is with the religious pity party? boo fucking woo!

I swear religious people act as if they're the minority in this country, when they're really 90% of the populous.

[catdd]

What is with the religious pity party? boo fucking woo!

I swear religious people act as if they're the minority in this country, when they're really 90% of the populous.

Are you on the right thread?

[fj45lvr]

I'm not saying that you personally hate Republicans. But theres a lot of people who hate neocons. And neocon is defined (apparently, by many here) as anyone who is more prowar than Ron Paul. Almost all Republicans are more prowar than Paul, and therefore neocons.

Here's some more "fleshy" definition of "neo-conservative" (a name they gave themselves), straight from Ron Pauls old speech "NEO-CONNED":




More important than the names of people affiliated with neo-conservatism are the views they adhere to. Here is a brief summary of the general understanding of what neocons believe:
They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as well as intellectual.
They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so.
They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.
They accept the notion that the ends justify the means—that hardball politics is a moral necessity.
They express no opposition to the welfare state.
They are not bashful about an American empire; instead they strongly endorse it.
They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.
They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit.
They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it.
They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill advised.
They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem.
They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is appropriate.
Using American might to force American ideals on others is acceptable. Force should not be limited to the defense of our country.
9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many.
They dislike and despise libertarians (therefore, the same applies to all strict constitutionalists.)
They endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those found in the Patriot Act, as being necessary.
They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party.
Various organizations and publications over the last 30 years have played a significant role in the rise to power of the neoconservatives. It took plenty of money and commitment to produce the intellectual arguments needed to convince the many participants in the movement of its respectability.


The point is that the "state" has always been the people's enemy really (something many of the founders stated too).

I strongly suggest reading this 52 page booK "Our Enemy the State":

http://mises.org/etexts/ourenemy.pdf

[tron paul]

Here's some more "fleshy" definition of "neo-conservative" (a name they gave themselves), straight from Ron Pauls old speech "NEO-CONNED":

http://mises.org/etexts/ourenemy.pdf

Thanks for posting Dr. Paul's list of Neocon traits.

Some people are worse than the anti-semite obsessed ADL, and they see Neocons hiding under their beds, controlling Alaskan governors, and taking over "their" Tea Parties.

It's so nice to have a proper definition to show them when they start up with the "OMGz tEH neoconZ ARE everywhere!!!" nonsense.

[ramallamamama]

YouTube - McCain-Palin Rap!!! M.C. CAIN-Palin was the Choice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rOCDG_btk&feature=channel)

[RonPaulwillWin]

Wrong! They started in 2006 with the 9/11 truthers.

http://www.boston911truth.org/teaparty/

We can't complain about the neocons not giving us credit if we won't give credit to those who really started the modern tea party movement.

But that was just about one specific thing with a small group of people.

07 teaparty was a make it or break it part of a much larger movement that involved many more issues.

[MichelleHeart]

It's so nice to have a proper definition to show them when they start up with the "OMGz tEH neoconZ ARE everywhere!!!" nonsense.

LOL. I know, right? We're not going to convert the pro-war conservatives into noninterventionism if we keep shouting "Neocon!" all the time. Then again, it can be hard to convert those types - but hey, I used to be one myself. After everything I've learned now, I can't quite understand why I was.