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tangent4ronpaul
01-10-2010, 03:54 AM
it's a re-make and this time the Chinese invade...

They say the propaganda is meant to be satirical, but I don't know... seems rather political. Release date is supposed to be end of November, so the film probably won't influence the elections unless released early, but ads for it might.

Take a look at the propaganda pamphlets in the first pic...
These are messages the Chinese are pushing
These are messages we push sometimes in real life
This is what the kids are fighting

Disturbed yet?

http://cache-08.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2009/09/500x_phoca_thumb_l_propaganda_2.jpg
http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2009/09/500x_phoca_thumb_l_propaganda_1.jpg
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2009/09/500x_phoca_thumb_l_friendship_center_closeup.jpg
http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2009/09/500x_phoca_thumb_l_dangerous_citizens.jpg


http://io9.com/5370777/red-dawn-remakes-anti+american-propaganda-posters/gallery/

http://www.reddawn2010.com/

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=126899508180

-t

Reason
01-10-2010, 03:59 AM
wtf is it?

tangent4ronpaul
01-10-2010, 04:02 AM
wtf is it?

A movie. In the original Russia invaded the USA and a bunch of HS kids fought them using guerrilla warfare tactics. I guess you didn't see it.

-t

0zzy
01-10-2010, 04:39 AM
If Americans resist, are they terrorist?

Dieseler
01-10-2010, 04:48 AM
Wolverines!
http://www.pauliddon.net/img/red%20dawn%20sub.png

libertarian4321
01-10-2010, 12:09 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

Dieseler
01-10-2010, 12:18 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

Through loans.
We're all Commies now.
They never even had to make landfall.

libertarian4321
01-10-2010, 12:36 PM
Through loans.
We're all Commies now.
They never even had to make landfall.

Huh?

You do realize that if we were in danger of an invasion because of "loans" we would simply refuse to pay the loans, right?

That'd be the quickest war in history, lol.

Dieseler
01-10-2010, 12:56 PM
Huh?

You do realize that if we were in danger of an invasion because of "loans" we would simply refuse to pay the loans, right?

That'd be the quickest war in history, lol.

There will be no invasion if the coup is successful and by my estimations it appears to be successful, far faster than our worst enemies could have ever imagined.
You would have to think the Commies are jealous at how the whole thing has taken place.
We've got to continue our efforts, educating and reforming or my morbid worst case will ensue without a shot even being fired.
Well, some shots will be fired I guess but those firing them will be deemed to be "nutbags" and "terrorists".
No foreign nation will be invading as there is no need...
See what I'm saying?
We are already occupied and most people don't even see it for what it is.
We are in a life and death battle (politically) right now for our Freedom and most don't even see it still.
That's what happens when you contract your governments affairs out to the enemy.
1913.

Lovecraftian4Paul
01-10-2010, 01:38 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

I could see it happening if we fell into major chaos and had a total government collapse. It would not be that far fetched to have landings by China, the EU, and others, at least along the coasts. They would come to "restore order" with peacekeepers, of course.

Dr.3D
01-10-2010, 01:55 PM
I believe, the invasion would be likely from the U.N.

Heck, they are already here.

Saw some just this morning driving around in a Humvee.

jmdrake
01-10-2010, 01:56 PM
Huh?

You do realize that if we were in danger of an invasion because of "loans" we would simply refuse to pay the loans, right?

That'd be the quickest war in history, lol.

At any time they could quit buying our debt. The dollar would then fully collapse. Not telling what would come in the resulting chaos.

JeNNiF00F00
01-10-2010, 01:57 PM
I love Red Dawn!! If you guys have not seen it you should. Can't wait to see the remake.

YumYum
01-10-2010, 02:47 PM
America is for sale! When American assets further deflate, China will be buying them up left and right for nothing along with the central bankers.

speciallyblend
01-10-2010, 02:54 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

they will call their loans in and reclaim our ships:P


WOLVERINES;) 10,200 ft

tmosley
01-10-2010, 03:00 PM
Once the US collapses, those countries will have their own problems to worry about. There will never be a UN invasion, because the US military makes up the vast majority of the UN's military.

The Chinese have no incentive to invade. They have enough problems without trying at miltary empire. The Chinese have never been a nation of empire builders anyways. Probably the worst we would see is the loss of some pacific islands and they might seize the Panama Canal. The new China is far more interested in trade than it is war. It is well known that war is futile when both combatants have nuclear weapons. This factor also makes the prospect of secession much more likely (a nuclear armed state rebelling against the US would be able to block US military might with the nukes located on its soil).

YumYum
01-10-2010, 04:10 PM
I do predict that if we bomb and invade Iran, China at the same time will take Taiwan, and there will be nothing we can do, because our plate is too full. Our government may already know this, and this could be what is holding back an attack on Iran.

Uriel999
01-10-2010, 04:19 PM
Once the US collapses, those countries will have their own problems to worry about. There will never be a UN invasion, because the US military makes up the vast majority of the UN's military.

The Chinese have no incentive to invade. They have enough problems without trying at miltary empire. The Chinese have never been a nation of empire builders anyways. Probably the worst we would see is the loss of some pacific islands and they might seize the Panama Canal. The new China is far more interested in trade than it is war. It is well known that war is futile when both combatants have nuclear weapons. This factor also makes the prospect of secession much more likely (a nuclear armed state rebelling against the US would be able to block US military might with the nukes located on its soil).

Hell historically, the Chinese have actually been the ones who suffer being invaded!

tangent4ronpaul
01-10-2010, 04:23 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

Someone hasn't been paying attention....

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE53I04R20090419

U.S. says watching China's naval expansion closely

BEIJING (Reuters) - The United States would like to have a better idea about the intentions behind China's naval build-up, a senior U.S. navy officer said on Sunday, but downplayed worries over Chinese plans for an aircraft carrier.

This week a Chinese admiral told state media that China would accelerate development of warships, stealth submarines and long-range missiles as the country makes a stronger navy a priority in military modernization.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/eo20090930a1.html

PLAN has become the priority of China's military modernization program, acquiring 30 submarines and 22 surface ships in the past decade, in addition to substantial numbers of maritime aviation assets and naval missilery. Conscious of the apprehension its military modernization program is generating, Beijing feels the need to reassure its neighbors and the world by portraying its naval and military expansion as benign and a natural result of its economic growth. Naval diplomacy is a major element of this effort.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/5/31/202740.shtml

Chinese Military Expansion

Chinese Aircraft Carrier

According to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), China plans to organize a combat air wing for a future aircraft carrier. The Chinese navy is already evaluating the Russian Su-33/FLANKER D, a carrier-capable variant of the Su-27/FLANKER. Russia currently uses the Su-33 aboard its single Kuznetzov-class aircraft carrier.

However, China also owns a Kuznetzov carrier. The former Varyag has been tied up in a Chinese shipyard at Dailan since 2002, when it was purchased as a floating casino. Now, according to the U.S. Defense Department, the Chinese appear to be doing some kind of work on the Varyag.

"The only visible signs of this work are a new paint job (in the gray shade used by the Chinese navy) and ongoing work on the superstructure (particularly the tall "island" on the flight deck). Many workers can be seen on the ship, and material is seen going into (new stuff) and out of (old stuff) the ship," noted StrategyPage.com, a military watchdog website.

In a further sign of upcoming conflict, the Chinese navy has increased amphibious ship production to address its sealift deficiencies. The PLA has also increased its civilian merchant fleet, which could provide additional over-the-beach lift for future amphibious operations.

...

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tangent4ronpaul
01-10-2010, 04:31 PM
This factor also makes the prospect of secession much more likely (a nuclear armed state rebelling against the US would be able to block US military might with the nukes located on its soil).

Slight problem is safeguards and launch codes. While the warheads could provide material for a nuke, the ability of a state to launch one is non-existent.

-t

freedoms-light
01-10-2010, 04:37 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

Hide in shipping containers headed for Wall Mart

Pepsi
01-10-2010, 04:45 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

Easy just send troops over to America throw immagration or ilegal immagration and let them live in America to lean the American ways, and have them in secret report back to each other, and ready at a moments notice when to attack if needed.

Dieseler
01-10-2010, 04:48 PM
Hide in shipping containers headed for Wall Mart

I wouldn't want that gig in August.


Easy just send troops over to America throw immagration or ilegal immagration and let them live in America to lean the American ways, and have them in secret report back to each other, and ready at a moments notice when to attack if needed.

That fits one of my more morbid theories and is not beyond possible by any stretch.
It won't be ethnic Chinese springing up though.

ChaosControl
01-10-2010, 04:49 PM
Sounds like a neat movie.
I never saw the original, I should check it out.

Original_Intent
01-10-2010, 05:37 PM
I ain't drinking deer blood and that's final.

Patrick Swayze thought it was such a great idea and look what happened.

LibertyEagle
01-10-2010, 05:49 PM
I ain't drinking deer blood and that's final.

Patrick Swayze thought it was such a great idea and look what happened.

lolol

tangent4ronpaul
01-10-2010, 05:52 PM
Red Dawn and The Breakfast Club are also the 2 movies notable for launching a lot of acting careers.

It's a good movie - check out the original!

-t

CasualApathy
01-10-2010, 06:41 PM
The first movie was a bit far fetched, but the idea of a "Chinese invasion" is ludicrous.

How would they get here given that they have a tiny Navy?

China has actually been spending quite a lot on their navy lately...

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf


China’s naval modernization effort encompasses a broad array of weapon acquisition programs,
including programs for anti-ship ballistic missiles (ASBMs), anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCMs),
land-attack cruise missiles (LACMs), surface-to-air missiles, mines, aircraft, submarines,
destroyers and frigates, patrol craft, and amphibious ships. In addition, observers believe that
China may soon begin (or already has begun) an indigenous aircraft carrier construction program.
China’s naval modernization effort also includes reforms and improvements in maintenance and
logistics, naval doctrine, personnel quality, education, training, and exercises. Although China’s
naval modernization effort has substantially improved China’s naval capabilities in recent years,
observers believe China’s navy continues to exhibit limitations or weaknesses in several areas.
DOD and other observers believe that the near-term focus of China’s military modernization
effort, including its naval modernization effort, has been to develop military options for
addressing the situation with Taiwan. Consistent with this goal, observers believe that China
wants its military to be capable of acting as a so-called anti-access force—a force that can deter
U.S. intervention in a conflict involving Taiwan, or failing that, delay the arrival or reduce the
effectiveness of intervening U.S. naval and air forces.

Pepsi
01-11-2010, 05:51 PM
I wouldn't want that gig in August.



That fits one of my more morbid theories and is not beyond possible by any stretch.
It won't be ethnic Chinese springing up though.

How is goverments sending in special forces units into America throw its open borders beyond any possibleity? they probley have all ready done so.

Dieseler
01-11-2010, 05:53 PM
How is goverments sending in special forces units into America throw its open borders beyond any possibleity? they probley have all ready done so.

These are not the droids you are looking for.