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FrankRep
01-04-2010, 09:34 PM
During her MSNBC program that aired on December 18, Rachel Maddow told her guest Thomas Frank that John Birch Society members are the “New World Order black helicopter folks.” By Chris Bentley


Rachel Maddow, Black Helicopters, and the New World Order (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2667-rachel-maddow-black-helicopters-and-the-new-world-order)


Chris Bentley | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
30 December 2009


During her MSNBC program that aired on December 18, Rachel Maddow told her guest Thomas Frank that John Birch Society members are the “New World Order black helicopter folks.”

While most of Maddow’s accusations are based on statements taken out of context, in this particular instance she has it entirely backwards.

The New American magazine, the official news publication of the Society, debunked the black helicopters rumor and other falsehoods as far back as its October 31, 1994 issue (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2604-sifting-reality-from-alarmist-rumors):

http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/blackhelicopters.001.jpg

As for the JBS being the “New World Order folks,” Maddow apparently has confused the Society's members with the people who actually promote it.

The following video clips and and images are just a small sampling of the mountains of documentation on this subject:


George H. W. Bush on the new world order:

YouTube - George Bush New World Order (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g)

Henry Kissinger on the new world order:

YouTube - Kissinger calls on Obama to create a New World Order (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3BqK-9ZiU)

Bill Clinton on the new world order:

YouTube - Bill Clinton agrees with Bush about the New World Order (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzUkhKaNylM)

Gordon Brown on the new world order:

YouTube - Gordon Brown New World Order Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0)

http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/gordonbrownnwo.001.jpg

http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/gorbynwo.001.jpg

http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/castronwo.001.jpg

http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/chinanwo.001.jpg

Of all the proponents of the New World Order, few if any have been as influential (and as capable of employing personal wealth and power in order to make it happen) as David Rockefeller.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_12-2009/davidrockefeller.001.jpg

Rockefeller, who is likely in his last few years of life, confessed in his 2002 autobiography Memoirs this lifelong goal:


"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

Unfortunately, the dream of a "one world" political and economic structure was a hard sell in the 20th century, given the atrocities that some of the most odious regimes in the world's history inflicted on the people they murdered with impunity.

But that never stopped David Rockefeller and his fellow elites from attempting to sell the concept with some of the most astounding statements one can find in print.

In an August 10, 1973 New York Times article, Rockefeller said the following about Chairman Mao and his "social experiment": "One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony.... Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded ... in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive.... The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly form the singleness of ideology and purpose.... The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history."

The John Birch Society and its members are not the ones calling for the New World Order. The JBS didn’t make the name up, either. That would be the responsibility of those who are pushing for it.

But don't expect to find a reasoned treatment of the subject matter on the Rachel Maddow show or any other major media outlet.

It's not politically correct.


SOURCE:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2667-rachel-maddow-black-helicopters-and-the-new-world-order

TheConstitutionLives
01-04-2010, 09:38 PM
oh god. You've beat this horse to a bloody pulp, Alex.

FrankRep
01-04-2010, 09:40 PM
oh god. Thanks Alex.
Thanks David Rockefeller, you mean.

I know, George H. W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Gordon Brown, and Fidel Casto aren't credible sources. Right?

TheConstitutionLives
01-04-2010, 09:46 PM
Thanks David Rockefeller, you mean.

How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? I have this image of you being 12 years old with bad acne as you scour the net into the wee hours of the morning (with Magicman and a few others here) searching tirelessly for pieces to some global puzzle.

FrankRep
01-04-2010, 09:50 PM
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? I have this image of you being 12 years old with bad acne as you scour the net into the wee hours of the morning (with Magicman and a few others here) searching tirelessly for pieces to some global puzzle.
Flattery will get you nowhere. :rolleyes:

TheConstitutionLives
01-04-2010, 09:51 PM
Thanks David Rockefeller, you mean.

I know, George H. W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Gordon Brown, and Fidel Casto aren't credible sources. Right?

It's not that. It's that it's all you harp on. We have credible people who claim UFO's exist (and they probably do) but do we really want the General Politics forum cluttered up with threads on UFO's? The beating of this horse just gets a little stale after its 5,000th thread.

FrankRep
01-04-2010, 09:56 PM
It's not that. It's that it's all you harp on.
Some people still think Global Government isn't being planned and thinks everything happens by accident.

I'm guessing you fit under this category.

TheConstitutionLives
01-04-2010, 10:01 PM
Some people still think Global Government isn't being planned and thinks everything happens by accident.

I'm guessing you fit under this category.


Everything is NOT planned. Some things are planned. Some aren't. To what extent is speculation. If you think everything is planned, Alex, then you've got worse problems than some global government.

Honestly, i don't want to debate this AGAIN b/c it's pointless.

Anti Federalist
01-04-2010, 10:03 PM
It's not that. It's that it's all you harp on. We have credible people who claim UFO's exist (and they probably do) but do we really want the General Politics forum cluttered up with threads on UFO's? The beating of this horse just gets a little stale after its 5,000th thread.

Maddow brought the subject up on a national, televised, political, talk show.

She did it recently.

That makes it news worthy and a subject of "General Politics".

And the OP is harping on the subject??!! :eek:

Pot, Kettle, Black.

TheConstitutionLives
01-04-2010, 10:05 PM
Maddow brought the subject up on a national, televised, political, talk show.

She did it recently.

That makes it news worthy and a subject of "General Politics".

And the OP is harping on the subject??!! :eek:

Pot, Kettle, Black.

Anti-Fed to the rescue

TheConstitutionLives
01-04-2010, 10:06 PM
Maddow brought the subject up on a national, televised, political, talk show.

She did it recently.

That makes it news worthy and a subject of "General Politics".

And the OP is harping on the subject??!! :eek:

Pot, Kettle, Black.

Yeah, she brought it up and we already discussed it extensively in the JBS thread.

Anti Federalist
01-04-2010, 10:07 PM
Anti-Fed to the rescue

Obvious post is obvious.

Anti Federalist
01-04-2010, 10:09 PM
Yeah, she brought it up and we already discussed it extensively in the JBS thread.

So some new folks will see it now.

We're doing a good job keeping it bumped to the top.

Thanks!

:D

Kylie
01-04-2010, 10:35 PM
I just did a search on these black helicopters that keep flying over my house.

Damn near every night I have heard/seen them. At least for the last month.

You guys can call bullshit all you want, but one just flew by not 10 minutes ago, and it was not the normal emergency helicopter.....just like it wasn't this afternoon.


So, what gives? :confused:

FrankRep
01-04-2010, 10:39 PM
I just did a search on these black helicopters that keep flying over my house.

They are probably police helicopters you were seeing. Not a big deal.


The New American magazine, the official news publication of the Society, debunked the black helicopters rumor and other falsehoods as far back as its October 31, 1994 issue (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2604-sifting-reality-from-alarmist-rumors).

Kylie
01-04-2010, 10:47 PM
They are probably police helicopters you were seeing. Not a big deal.


The New American magazine, the official news publication of the Society, debunked the black helicopters rumor and other falsehoods as far back as its October 31, 1994 issue (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2604-sifting-reality-from-alarmist-rumors).

Okay.


So I'm just paranoid. Totally possible.

But like my Dad says, " Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you".





Weird though, we live near an air force base, and I've not seen these 'copters in all these years....until the last few months. We've had cop 'copters before, but they've not ran back and forth from one spot to another(and it's always the same flight path...at least it is from where I am) every 20 min. or so for hours at a time. It's not like the cops, which run in circles like they're looking for something. This is to and fro in the same line everytime.

I'll just put my tin foil hat on and shut up now.

:D

TheConstitutionLives
01-04-2010, 10:52 PM
one just flew by not 10 minutes ago, and it was not the normal emergency helicopter.....just like it wasn't this afternoon.

(sigh)

I'm pretty sure the government owns black helicopters. Big f'ing deal! Are they trying to read your thoughts with back-engineered Roswell debris? NO!!! F*ck! People are too frickin' paranoid. I'd almost rather be around the ignorant sheep sometimes. lol

FrankRep
01-04-2010, 11:02 PM
(sigh)

I'm pretty sure the government owns black helicopters. Big f'ing deal! Are they trying to read your thoughts with back-engineered Roswell debris? NO!!! F*ck! People are too frickin' paranoid. I'd almost rather be around the ignorant sheep sometimes. lol
The person has been gently corrected. Chill out.

virgil47
01-04-2010, 11:03 PM
Okay.


So I'm just paranoid. Totally possible.

But like my Dad says, " Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you".





Weird though, we live near an air force base, and I've not seen these 'copters in all these years....until the last few months. We've had cop 'copters before, but they've not ran back and forth from one spot to another(and it's always the same flight path...at least it is from where I am) every 20 min. or so for hours at a time. It's not like the cops, which run in circles like they're looking for something. This is to and fro in the same line everytime.

I'll just put my tin foil hat on and shut up now.

:D

I'm not sure which Air Force Base that you live near but a number of bases have combined recently so the helicopters could be military. Military copters do indeed tend to fly back and forth quite a bit as the pilots are just staying current in their training.

Kylie
01-04-2010, 11:11 PM
Yeah, I know.


I'm just being silly. Thanks for setting me straight.


With all the shit that gets slung at us on a daily basis, you know it's easy to get caught up in the " Their all gonna get you!!! mentality.

Please excuse my momentary lapse of reason. It happens :o

tnvoter
01-04-2010, 11:13 PM
bump

ramallamamama
01-05-2010, 12:10 AM
Bill Cooper weighs in.

http://noolmusic.com/dailymotion_videos/william_cooper_new_world_order_pt5_politics.php

ramallamamama
01-05-2010, 12:15 AM
http://home.comcast.net/~adramelech/images/reptilian1.jpg

I'm not joking.

ramallamamama
01-05-2010, 12:17 AM
Oh and I wouldn't be too worried about what Mr Maddow says.

Dieseler
01-05-2010, 12:20 AM
YouTube - The Most Powerful Video Ull Ever See.flv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11XafpVJaLw&feature=player_embedded)

We are the problem.