Reaching out to the African-American community with the Message of Liberty

[FrankRep]

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson's Websites:
The Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny (BOND)
http://www.bondinfo.org/

BOND ACTION Inc. Educating | Motivating | Rallying Americans
http://www.bondaction.org/


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Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson (http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1745)

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Book Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson for his new "Stop Obama's Socialist Change" Speaking Tour.

Rev. Peterson has launched a nationwide tour to educate and sound the alarm about President Barack Obama’s dangerous socialist plan for America. Barack Obama and the left-wing Democrats in Congress are mapping out an aggressive agenda to take America down the path to socialism. It is up to the American people to take a stand and fight back against the coming onslaught against traditional American values.

Rev. Peterson is the most courageous, outspoken critic of the civil-rights establishment in America today. Often referred to as the “antidote to Jesse Jackson”, Rev. Peterson is also the man behind the National Boycott of the NAACP, believing the organization to be nothing more than a tool of the “elite, socialist” elements of the Democratic Party.

Rev. Peterson is the Founder and President of the nationally recognized nonprofit organization BOND Action, Inc. (http://www.bondaction.org/), (Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny), whose purpose is “Rebuilding the Family By Rebuilding the Man”. He is also the author of the bold and highly-popular book, “SCAM: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America.” Rev. Peterson is also a nationally-syndicated radio host, TV host and highly sought-after speaker.

He is frequently seen on major TV networks such as Fox, CNN, and MSNBC, consistently leaving his liberal counterpart in knots. His unflappable, can-do attitude and absolute commitment to truth are the perfect medicine for a value-challenged society.

An exceptionally charismatic speaker, Rev. Peterson is a hit among audiences nationwide. Among his popular titles: “Rebuilding the Family By Rebuilding the Man,” “Curing Moral Poverty,” “White Fear”, “Stop Reparations & Affirmative Action Now!” , Abortion-Black Genocide, “The Left’s War on the Family”, “We Shall Overcome Civil Rights Leaders” and “The Seven Guaranteed Steps to Spiritual, Family and Financial Success”. There’s more!

Character is the most important word in Rev. Peterson's vocabulary. Born on a plantation in Midway, Alabama, Rev. Peterson is this generation's Booker T. Washington. He practices what he preaches, operating the BOND Home For Boys, a character building after-school program, and many other programs and activities that benefit men and their families. His organization is a prototype for a bold new approach to solving our ever-increasing urban crisis.


The John Birch Society Speakers Bureau
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau

[FrankRep]

Glenn Beck: Jesse Lee Peterson On Black Socialism

YouTube - Jesse Peterson On Black Socialism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7cAglsuRqE)

[Dunedain]

We need more black guys like this. Where are they all hiding?

[awake]

Red and yellow, black or white, a common enemy is in our sight, Government oppresses all the people of the world.

[FrankRep]

Red and yellow, black or white, a common enemy is in our sight, Government oppresses all the people of the world.
As Jesse Lee Peterson says, the Liberal Democrat Socialists are heavily exploiting the Black communities and driving them deeper into poverty. The communities reach out for More Government (Socialism) instead of using Capitalism.

[fisharmor]

I'd have to see more of him... the Beck interview was terrible. He sounded like a post-game football player.

[FrankRep]

The Jesse Lee Peterson TV Show - Introduction

Jesse Peterson TV Show - Introduction (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6349126190572782082)


Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America (http://superstore.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1319)
by Jesse Lee Peterson

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From Rage to Responsibility: Black Conservative Jesse Lee Peterson and America Today (http://www.amazon.com/Rage-Responsibility-Conservative-Peterson-America/dp/1557787883/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261370616&sr=1-1)
by Jesse Lee Peterson

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[Theocrat]

We need more black guys like this. Where are they all hiding?

Some of us come to forums like this one. However, it's not a race thing, unless we're talking about the human race.

[FrankRep]

With black student performance at its lowest level, particularly in Detroit and other large cities, it's time to look at the problems with the education system in America says Walter Williams.


Black Education (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/opinion/960-walter-williams/2630-black-education)

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Walter Williams | The New American (http://www.TheNewAmerican.com/)
23 December 2009


Detroit's (predominantly black) public schools are the worst in the nation and it takes some doing to be worse than Washington, D.C. Only 3 percent of Detroit's fourth-graders scored proficient on the most recent National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP) test, sometimes called "The Nation's Report Card." Twenty-eight percent scored basic and 69 percent below basic.

"Below basic" is the NAEP category when students are unable to demonstrate even partial mastery of knowledge and skills fundamental for proficient work at their grade level. It's the same story for Detroit's eighth-graders. Four percent scored proficient, 18 percent basic and 77 percent below basic.

Michael Casserly, executive director of the D.C.-based Council on Great City Schools, in an article appearing in Crain's Detroit Business, (12/8/09) titled, "Detroit's Public Schools Post Worst Scores on Record in National Assessment," said, "There is no jurisdiction of any kind, at any level, at any time in the 30-year history of NAEP that has ever registered such low numbers." The academic performance of black students in other large cities such as Philadelphia, Chicago, New York and Los Angeles is not much better than Detroit and Washington.

What's to be done about this tragic state of black education? The education establishment and politicians tell us that we need to spend more for higher teacher pay and smaller class size. The fact of business is higher teacher salaries and smaller class sizes mean little or nothing in terms of academic achievement. Washington, D.C., for example spends over $15,000 per student, has class sizes smaller than the nation's average, and with an average annual salary of $61,195, its teachers are the most highly paid in the nation.

What about role models? Standard psychobabble asserts a positive relationship between the race of teachers and administrators and student performance. That's nonsense. Black academic performance is the worst in the very cities where large percentages of teachers and administrators are black, and often the school superintendent is black, the mayor is black, most of the city council is black and very often the chief of police is black.

Black people have accepted hare-brained ideas that have made large percentages of black youngsters virtually useless in an increasingly technological economy. This destruction will continue until the day comes when black people are willing to turn their backs on liberals and the education establishment's agenda and confront issues that are both embarrassing and uncomfortable. To a lesser extent, this also applies to whites because the educational performance of many white kids is nothing to write home about; it's just not the disaster that black education is.

Many black students are alien and hostile to the education process. They have parents with little interest in their education. These students not only sabotage the education process, but make schools unsafe as well. These students should not be permitted to destroy the education chances of others. They should be removed or those students who want to learn should be provided with a mechanism to go to another school.

Another issue deemed too delicate to discuss is the overall quality of people teaching our children. Students who have chosen education as their major have the lowest SAT scores of any other major. Students who have an education degree earn lower scores than any other major on graduate school admission tests such as the GRE, MCAT or LSAT. Schools of education, either graduate or undergraduate, represent the academic slums of most any university. They are home to the least able students and professors. Schools of education should be shut down.

Yet another issue is the academic fraud committed by teachers and administrators. After all, what is it when a student is granted a diploma certifying a 12th grade level of achievement when in fact he can't perform at the sixth- or seventh-grade level?

Prospects for improvement in black education are not likely given the cozy relationship between black politicians, civil rights organizations and teacher unions.


Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University.


SOURCE:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/opinion/960-walter-williams/2630-black-education

[FrankRep]

Chris Matthews: Every single “teabagger” in America is white
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/05/chris-matthews-every-single-teabagger-in-america-is-white/


While I disagree with Chris Matthews (http://bit.ly/8dnuG8) about his observation, I would agree that we need to reach out more to the urban communities that are being exploited by Marxian leaders and philosophy.

Help support Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson in his efforts.

[ItsTime]

Some of us come to forums like this one. However, it's not a race thing, unless we're talking about the human race.

hey bro whats up? havent seen you around. how you been?

[jmdrake]

We're planning to do an outreach at the upcoming MLK day festivities here. Not sure what form it will take yet. Wish us luck!

[catdd]

We need more black guys like this. Where are they all hiding?


Agreed. Some black liberty leaders would go a long way.

[jmdrake]

Agreed. Some black liberty leaders would go a long way.

Tony Brown. Walter Williams. Thomas Sewell. Alan Keyes. (Not crazy about Keyes personally). Chris (the guy with the AR 15). If you believed the mainstream media there weren't any antiwar republicans running for president in 2008 either. (I literally heard Juan Williams say this on NPR. And they wonder why I'll never send them a donation?)

[Dieseler]

My biggest problem in reaching out in this instance is when I come to the "returning to Limited Constitutional Government" part. A lot of Black folks feel or I should say seem to feel that the Constitution was written for Whites only and I have a hard time getting around the fact that at the time it was, no denying it really and then of course this leads into something that just isn't a favorite topic of mine when we find ourselves discussing the civil war and my not so favorite President Abraham Lincoln.
It can be a tough nut to crack but there must be a way to get there without falling into this kind of discussion which inherently leads to an argument and becomes counter productive to what I'm trying to achieve to begin with.
Help me out JM...
Good Luck!

( I need a script that I can believe in.)

[FrankRep]

Tony Brown. Walter Williams. Thomas Sewell. Alan Keyes. (Not crazy Keyes personally). Chris (the guy with the AR 15). If you believed the mainstream media there weren't any antiwar republicans running for president in 2008 either. (I literally heard Juan Williams say this on NPR. And they wonder why I'll never send them a donation?)

The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/) / JBS (http://www.jbs.org/) has picked up Water Williams and Thomas Sowell as writers.


Water Williams articles
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/opinion/walter-williams


Intellectuals and Society I & II
by Thomas Sowell

http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5816-intellectuals-and-society-
http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5819-intellectuals-and-society-part-ii-


Thomas Sowell - Website (http://www.tsowell.com/)

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[LDA]

People need to stop identifying themselves as members of a particular ethnic group/race/skin color/whatever. We're all people, and we're basically the same. Collectivism is harmful because it creates an "us versus them" mentality.

[FrankRep]

People need to stop identifying themselves as members of a particular ethnic group/race/skin color/whatever. We're all people, and we're basically the same. Collectivism is harmful because it creates an "us versus them" mentality.
That's step 2.

Step 1 is reaching out to the Collectivists.

[Daamien]

The liberty message should transcend traditional racially affiliated boundaries. Unfortunately our image as political opposition to the Obama's administration (rather than a less-political and more philosophical alternative) gets in the way of our message. We have the same message as Martin Lurther King Jr., Nelson Mandella, and Mahatma Gandhi, but unfortunately we focus too much on the politics and not enough on the people. Hence, our outside image is unfortunately blurred with that of the typical white Republicans.

[catdd]

Louis Farrakhan would be a good ally if he would drop the racist rhetoric.

[jmdrake]

My biggest problem in reaching out in this instance is when I come to the "returning to Limited Constitutional Government" part. A lot of Black folks feel or I should say seem to feel that the Constitution was written for Whites only and I have a hard time getting around the fact that at the time it was, no denying it really and then of course this leads into something that just isn't a favorite topic of mine when we find ourselves discussing the civil war and my not so favorite President Abraham Lincoln.
It can be a tough nut to crack but there must be a way to get there without falling into this kind of discussion which inherently leads to an argument and becomes counter productive to what I'm trying to achieve to begin with.
Help me out JM...
Good Luck!

( I need a script that I can believe in.)

Dieseler, whenever you're talking to anybody that you might disagree with, start of with where you agree and stay there as long as possible. I do that when talking to conservatives who most likely voted for Bush. I don't start with "This Iraq war was horrible and Bush supports torture". I start with all the Obama stuff I know they don't like and work my way back to things like the Bush bailout. Sometimes when talking to Bush supporters, when they try to draw me into conversations that we both know I disagree with them on I'll give non committal answers like "That's interesting". (For instance when my neighbor brought up the story about the Blackwater agents who got off from killing civilians based on technicalities.)

If you're talking to someone who probably voted for Obama, start off with stuff that Bush did that was horrible, work your way to the bailout (almost everybody was against it) and ask why they think Obama supported it. Ask what they think about warrantless wiretapping and point out that Obama voted for it. All along make it clear those are things that you don't support and that's why you liked neither Bush nor Obama. In fact, I wouldn't even bring up the word "Obama". That stirs too many emotional ties. Talk about the issues. If you have a media player show people the clip of Robert Reich saying that republicans are "lying" about healthcare. Then show the clip where Robert Reich in 2007 said that any honest (democrat) politician who talked about healthcare would say the young would pay more, the old would die sooner, and life expectancies would quit rising because pharmacutical companies would no longer be able to invest in new research.

Spend a lot of time talking about the current erosion of civil liberties. Talk about body scanners in airports. Talk about the government spying on churches and point out how before they had spied on MLK. Point out the police brutality that happened at the G20 summit.

Avoid talking too much about "states rights". You're better off talking about 9/11 being an inside job. Seriously, the conspiracy theory stuff plays decently in the black community. (But only go there if you believe it). You can still talk about states rights, but change the wording a little bit so the image of "Bull Connor" doesn't immediately come to, and key what you are talking about to issues. (For example the RealID act). But I purposefully use the term "state sovereignty". Is it the same thing? Maybe. But it doesn't have the same emotional baggage.

You can find some strong opposition to "hate crimes" laws if you point out that it may hurt preachers black or white who say what they believe about moral issues such as gay marriage. (Know your audience and tread carefully).

I wouldn't bring up Lincoln. Lincoln was about 150 years ago. Why use up precious time trying to convince somebody of your view about Lincoln when your goal is to move them from the Obama camp to the Ron Paul camp? There are many people who hate Lincoln who supported Bush and Dick Cheney and there are people who still like Lincoln who support Ron Paul. If you can get people who have likely voted for democrats all their life to see through Bill Clinton you're doing good. Plus it's a confusing message. You bashing Lincoln while "mainstream" republicans are talking to blacks about "coming back to the party of Lincoln". ;) Besides, you'd be surprised how many blacks know a lot of the negative stuff about Lincoln. They're just not crazy about the confederate alternative.

I know that's not a script, but I don't think scripts work. ;) And I'm not smart enough to give you one. Last point. I no longer get the "he's a racist" charge thrown at me about Ron Paul. That doesn't mean it's not still out there. But I weathered that storm and I think it's largely subsided. When I did get that I always brought up Ron Paul's comments at the Tavis Smiley debate about the war on drugs and how it unfairly singled out blacks. That's usually been helpful.

Regards,

John M. Drake

[Dieseler]

:)

[Dunedain]

I tried speaking with lots of blacks during all the Detroit liberty efforts. Why is every person in all the meetup groups I went too white? It became obvious. None of them gave a darn.
End the Fed, the anti-War marches, the Ron Paul literature distribution. Very few blacks were curious....the others seemed clueless. None were openly hostile i will give them that.

Thousands showed up downtown to get their Obama stimulus handout however. Curious indeed.

[LittleLightShining]

For facebook users this may be a good place to reach out: Hip Hop Republican (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23480197522)

[FrankRep]

Bumping for Martin Luther King Day

[Matt Collins]

YouTube - Free At Last (Ron Paul, Martin Luther King) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWClI8zsH4)

[SelfTaught]

Glenn Beck: Jesse Lee Peterson On Black Socialism

YouTube - Jesse Peterson On Black Socialism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7cAglsuRqE)

Sounds kinda retarded when he talks. Just my opinion.

[FrankRep]

Sounds kinda retarded when he talks. Just my opinion.
Some people say southern people sound retarded because of their "southern drawl."

[SelfTaught]

Some people say southern people sound retarded because of their "southern drawl."

Precisely. Ever heard of Rich Boy from Alabama? :D


YouTube - Rich Boy - Let's Get This Paper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juT9i9LyU6M)

[FrankRep]

Jesse Lee Peterson supports Liberty and Constitutional values. That's what matters.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson's Websites:
The Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny (BOND)
http://www.bondinfo.org/

BOND ACTION Inc. Educating | Motivating | Rallying Americans
http://www.bondaction.org/


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The John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/) Speakers Bureau has a long and distinguished history of presenting speakers who are keenly aware of the motivations that drive political policy. Previous speakers have addressed a broad range of issues, including, but not limited to, illegal immigration, the NAFTA super highway, economics, the United Nations, terrorism, national sovereignty, the Constitution, trade agreements, family values, education, morality, and gun control. Our expert speakers are available to speak to your group about an issue of your choosing.

To get the speaker of your choice, simply fill out the contact inquiry form and e-mail it to us. We will contact the speaker for availability per your requested event date and contact you with confirmation.

For more information regarding any speaker or arrangements, contact our Speaker Bureau at 920-749-3780.


Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson (http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1745)

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Book Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson for his new "Stop Obama's Socialist Change" Speaking Tour.

Rev. Peterson has launched a nationwide tour to educate and sound the alarm about President Barack Obama’s dangerous socialist plan for America. Barack Obama and the left-wing Democrats in Congress are mapping out an aggressive agenda to take America down the path to socialism. It is up to the American people to take a stand and fight back against the coming onslaught against traditional American values.

Rev. Peterson is the most courageous, outspoken critic of the civil-rights establishment in America today. Often referred to as the “antidote to Jesse Jackson”, Rev. Peterson is also the man behind the National Boycott of the NAACP, believing the organization to be nothing more than a tool of the “elite, socialist” elements of the Democratic Party.

Rev. Peterson is the Founder and President of the nationally recognized nonprofit organization BOND Action, Inc. (http://www.bondaction.org/), (Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny), whose purpose is “Rebuilding the Family By Rebuilding the Man”. He is also the author of the bold and highly-popular book, “SCAM: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America.” Rev. Peterson is also a nationally-syndicated radio host, TV host and highly sought-after speaker.

He is frequently seen on major TV networks such as Fox, CNN, and MSNBC, consistently leaving his liberal counterpart in knots. His unflappable, can-do attitude and absolute commitment to truth are the perfect medicine for a value-challenged society.

An exceptionally charismatic speaker, Rev. Peterson is a hit among audiences nationwide. Among his popular titles: “Rebuilding the Family By Rebuilding the Man,” “Curing Moral Poverty,” “White Fear”, “Stop Reparations & Affirmative Action Now!” , Abortion-Black Genocide, “The Left’s War on the Family”, “We Shall Overcome Civil Rights Leaders” and “The Seven Guaranteed Steps to Spiritual, Family and Financial Success”. There’s more!

Character is the most important word in Rev. Peterson's vocabulary. Born on a plantation in Midway, Alabama, Rev. Peterson is this generation's Booker T. Washington. He practices what he preaches, operating the BOND Home For Boys, a character building after-school program, and many other programs and activities that benefit men and their families. His organization is a prototype for a bold new approach to solving our ever-increasing urban crisis.


The John Birch Society Speakers Bureau
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau

Major premise: The people do not need educated experts, lawyers or scientists to help them understand what is a self-evident and unalienable Truth. Minor Premise: African Americans are people. Conclusion: Therefore, African Americans don't need educated experts, lawyers, or scientists to help them understand what is the self-evident and unalienable Truth.
Don't you understand that the problem lies with manipulation of any kind and that includes yours? We need to put on the brakes. Just because we have a necessary tyranny ruling us doesn't mean that we have to use it. We need to quit using it so much.
It is time for us to transcend. Start forgiving people instead of sueing them in court. Stop building the roads until they start building them correctly and more efficiently. Cut the size of the supreme court. There doesn't have to be nine of them. Let us make it three in every state and Federal court instead. We need this kind of thinking.
See, what you don't get is that a natural law comes straight from the Almighty. It isn't like African Americans are going to alter the Truth. It really comes down to whether they want to listen to their conscience. The self evident and unalienable Truth bypasses the mind to be perceived by every human conscience.
The Truth is sufficient. Our nation's fabulous economy was built on it; so, we should continue prospering by holding it as our Civil Purpose. Our Civil Purpose in turn supercedes every legal precedence of all past traditions and future occurences yet to happen.

[FrankRep]

http://economics.gmu.edu/wew/images/williams2.jpg


Walter Williams on Good Intentions: Public Schools, Minimum Wage, Licensing, and Welfare


Public Schools:

YouTube - Good Intentions 1of3 Introduction and Public Schools with Walter Williams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1r-r6iLBEI)

Minimum Wages and Occupational Licensing:

YouTube - Good Intentions 2of3 Minimum Wage, Licensing, and Labor Laws with Walter Williams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DS0XXFdyfI)

Welfare:

YouTube - Good Intentions 3of3 The Welfare System and Conclusions with Walter Williams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqMuLNWL_Qo)

[JXL78]

Sorry I don't buy this.

Whites have every opportunity to fall victim to the same crap black people do. But statistics show they don't and far from it. There is just some sort of entitlement mindset hard-wired in them. For every decent black person there are 10,000 out there that want to steal your shit and think it's funny. From African countries slaying white farmers to witnessing most developed strong nations being run by whites...it is visible everywhere.

Allowing all the minorities in like we do drags areas down. If you can't see this you are lying to yourself.

You can take the jungle bunny out of the jungle but you can never remove the banana from their mouth. Live in an area where you, the white man, are the minority and you'll find out first hand. They just have no desire to better themselves...most anyway.

[pdavis]

Sorry I don't buy this.

Whites have every opportunity to fall victim to the same crap black people do. But statistics show they don't and far from it. There is just some sort of entitlement mindset hard-wired in them. For every decent black person there are 10,000 out there that want to steal your shit and think it's funny. From African countries slaying white farmers to witnessing most developed strong nations being run by whites...it is visible everywhere.

Allowing all the minorities in like we do drags areas down. If you can't see this you are lying to yourself.

You can take the jungle bunny out of the jungle but you can never remove the banana from their mouth. Live in an area where you, the white man, are the minority and you'll find out first hand. They just have no desire to better themselves...most anyway.

I hope this is a poor attempt at a joke.

[__27__]

I hope this is a poor attempt at a joke.

Sadly I fear not. Though we must remember that freedom also means freedom for those with ignorant minds to spread their hate. We must not deny them that freedom, but should hope to educate them to the fact that they are falling victim to a collectivist mentality. Individuals reign supreme, each should be weighed on his own merits, not on some collective with which he may share some insignificant visual attribute.

[Endgame]

Sadly I fear not. Though we must remember that freedom also means freedom for those with ignorant minds to spread their hate. We must not deny them that freedom, but should hope to educate them to the fact that they are falling victim to a collectivist mentality. Individuals reign supreme, each should be weighed on his own merits, not on some collective with which he may share some insignificant visual attribute.

Another Stormfront troll. Knew they'd be back. It was nice when the mods FINALLY got around to cleaning them out a couple weeks ago.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Sadly I fear not. Though we must remember that freedom also means freedom for those with ignorant minds to spread their hate. We must not deny them that freedom, but should hope to educate them to the fact that they are falling victim to a collectivist mentality. Individuals reign supreme, each should be weighed on his own merits, not on some collective with which he may share some insignificant visual attribute.

First point: A person rarely victimized becomes a tyrant when, on occasion, they experience such a happening. Most of us are fairly calm when likewise victimized because we were born into such conditions lacking some of the qualities necessary for coping. As this puts us at a disadvantage, we fall into the cycle of abuse becoming part of the majority prostituted by just a few proprietors (I confess, I am a sinner).
Second point: Liberty (freedom) for the sake of liberty is no better than slavery. Like it or not, the United States was built on a social agenda.
Third point: As parents serve for the purpose of teaching children how to survive, education serves for the purpose of teaching them how to thrive. We are not here to teach children wrong from right as in behaving responsible (from the Supertramp song entitled "School"), but showing them right from wrong as in feeling happy. We have inherited most of what we need to be happy from an imperfect past. All we need to do is revere our ancestors by adding just a little because "from small alterations to history come great benefits."
Last point: As being one big family only requires that we be who we are as master, slave and *outcaste untouchable, being one big nation requires that we work it out.
*Most people only think of tyranny as a relationship between master and slave while a third entity of the untouchable existed who was outcaste by both the master and the slave alike.

[BlackTerrel]

You can take the jungle bunny out of the jungle but you can never remove the banana from their mouth.

Very classy my friend. Bye.

[Cowlesy]

Sorry I don't buy this.

Whites have every opportunity to fall victim to the same crap black people do. But statistics show they don't and far from it. There is just some sort of entitlement mindset hard-wired in them. For every decent black person there are 10,000 out there that want to steal your shit and think it's funny. From African countries slaying white farmers to witnessing most developed strong nations being run by whites...it is visible everywhere.

Allowing all the minorities in like we do drags areas down. If you can't see this you are lying to yourself.

You can take the jungle bunny out of the jungle but you can never remove the banana from their mouth. Live in an area where you, the white man, are the minority and you'll find out first hand. They just have no desire to better themselves...most anyway.

+ Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. It will not be tolerated here.

[The Patriot]

Why can't we just spread the message to Americans? Why does it matter what color they are. We aren't like the Democratic party who has to validate their ideas through ethnic blocs. Are ideas are great because they are American ideas, Constitutional ideas, that have roots in the Foundation of this country. We shouldn't segregate the message, we should just address all people, and whoever catches on will catch on. I do not care who I work with whether they be white or black, however I will never deliberately go out and speak to one racial group. I will speak to those who will listen. Our Movement has to get past race based politics, we need to talk about having a Constitutional Society, and non interventionist society(on a military and social level), and having a meritocracy(where you are judged on your merit not your ethnic background).

[JXL78]

Sadly I fear not. Though we must remember that freedom also means freedom for those with ignorant minds to spread their hate. We must not deny them that freedom, but should hope to educate them to the fact that they are falling victim to a collectivist mentality. Individuals reign supreme, each should be weighed on his own merits, not on some collective with which he may share some insignificant visual attribute.

And how about I educate you on what it's like to live next to some of these people? I've been robbed a few times now. And I'm not exactly in a poor neighborhood either. Just middle of the road. Welfare isn't even that high here.

My area is a bit different than Rogers, MN my friend. Spare me your "education" while you live in an area that's mostly whitey white goody two-shoes.

[Mach]

I watched this recently.... 4:56

YouTube - A Minority Viewpoint with Libertarian Jabriel Ballentine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXJxkfATZgQ)

[__27__]

And how about I educate you on what it's like to live next to some of these people? I've been robbed a few times now. And I'm not exactly in a poor neighborhood either. Just middle of the road. Welfare isn't even that high here.

My area is a bit different than Rogers, MN my friend. Spare me your "education" while you live in an area that's mostly whitey white goody two-shoes.

Why are you so obsessed with collectives?

If you live in a shitty neighborhood, the PEOPLE (individuals) around you may be bad. This says nothing about any collective of people they may share some minute visual attribute with, it simply says something about the INDIVIDUALS you live around.

Spare me your collectivist, white supremacist bullshit.

[SelfTaught]

Why cater to a specific race of people? That's the type of shit the Democrats and Republicans do. Stop that and people will take you more seriously. Who cares if the liberty movement is almost all white? Why do you care so much?

Seriously, the people on this board call out racism like it's going out of style, then turn around and suggest that we focus on converting a specific race of people. Who's collectivist now motherfuckers?

[jmdrake]

Why cater to a specific race of people? That's the type of shit the Democrats and Republicans do. Stop that and people will take you more seriously. Who cares if the liberty movement is almost all white? Why do you care so much?

Seriously, the people on this board call out racism like it's going out of style, then turn around and suggest that we focus on converting a specific race of people. Who's collectivist now motherfuckers?

Recognizing that there are clusters of people and packaging (not changing) your message accordingly is not collectivism. It's common sense. You've got your undies in a knot over race? Well look at another demographic. Age. We lost the senior vote on 2008 big time despite having the oldest candidate in the race. Common sense would say "Do more to win the elderly vote". Your logic would be "That's collectivism. Let's just stay irrelevant".

[SelfTaught]

Recognizing that there are clusters of people and packaging (not changing) your message accordingly is not collectivism. It's common sense. You've got your undies in a knot over race? Well look at another demographic. Age. We lost the senior vote on 2008 big time despite having the oldest candidate in the race. Common sense would say "Do more to win the elderly vote". Your logic would be "That's collectivism. Let's just stay irrelevant".

The senior demographic is a different story if you want to look at it practically. They make up a very large percentage of our population and are known to have a high percentage of people that actually go out and vote on election day. Blacks make up less than 15%. Is it really worth the effort that it would take to convert blacks to a more libertarian viewpoint? I would argue, NO. I live in Chicago and know goddamn well that the black districts are unlikely to vote for a republican or libertarian candidate. They are about 50x more likely to vote for someone that subscribes to the Black Liberation Theology. So I hope you at least recognize the futility in focusing our efforts to affect blacks, at least within the inner cities.

[jmdrake]

The senior demographic is a different story if you want to look at it practically. They make up a very large percentage of our population and are known to have a high percentage of people that actually go out and vote on election day. Blacks make up less than 15%. Is it really worth the effort that it would take to convert blacks to a more libertarian viewpoint? I would argue, NO. I live in Chicago and know goddamn well that the black districts are unlikely to vote for a republican or libertarian candidate. They are about 50x more likely to vote for someone that subscribes to the Black Liberation Theology. So I hope you at least recognize the futility in focusing our efforts to affect blacks, at least within the inner cities.

Well I guess that means I need to stop supporting Ron Paul and go vote for Obama. It's all "futile" right? Most white people I know either voted for McCain or Obama. I guess we'll just let them keep voting for the lesser of two evils. It's all futile right?

I can tell you that I've had a different experience within the black community. Maybe because I am black. Or maybe because I try to find common ground with people before telling them they voted the wrong way. And what's with the "focusing our efforts"? Is that not just another form of collectivism? If you don't want to reach out to the black community fine you don't reach out. But it's ridiculous to try to tell others what to do! That's the worst thing we spend our time doing! Rather than lecturing others about what they should be doing, take yourself over to your local mostly white senior citizens center and do some outreach. On MLK day I went to the march and did outreach and was well received. That's what will win our country back. Not so much reaching out to one community or another, but everybody going out and doing something where they feel comfortable. The idea that we should only pander to a certain demographic is part of the reason for the latest CFL mess. We don't want to scare off certain voters so the CFL puts out a weak survey that only covers part of Ron Paul's message and slants in one direction. The whole Ron Paul message sells well in every community. I know that from personal experience.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

+ Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. It will not be tolerated here.

An "R" person today is perceived to be just as backwards as the old "N" person used to be when folks supposed that they would rummage around in the wood piles in the backyards before running off with watermelons. Both are mythical. I myself don't dirty my lips using either the "R" word or the "N" word, or call people '"R" cists' or '"N" iggers,' or pretend that there exists such a thing as '"R" ism' or '"N" ism.
I am above all this because I wasn't raised on a farm being raised in the city where I went to college taking a lot of cognizant science courses.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Why cater to a specific race of people? That's the type of shit the Democrats and Republicans do. Stop that and people will take you more seriously. Who cares if the liberty movement is almost all white? Why do you care so much?

Seriously, the people on this board call out racism like it's going out of style, then turn around and suggest that we focus on converting a specific race of people. Who's collectivist now motherfuckers?

While we are all born to be tyrants either growing up to become a few proprietors or part of the many who they prostitute, we have to learn how to serve or to cater to others.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Well I guess that means I need to stop supporting Ron Paul and go vote for Obama. It's all "futile" right? Most white people I know either voted for McCain or Obama. I guess we'll just let them keep voting for the lesser of two evils. It's all futile right?

I can tell you that I've had a different experience within the black community. Maybe because I am black. Or maybe because I try to find common ground with people before telling them they voted the wrong way. And what's with the "focusing our efforts"? Is that not just another form of collectivism? If you don't want to reach out to the black community fine you don't reach out. But it's ridiculous to try to tell others what to do! That's the worst thing we spend our time doing! Rather than lecturing others about what they should be doing, take yourself over to your local mostly white senior citizens center and do some outreach. On MLK day I went to the march and did outreach and was well received. That's what will win our country back. Not so much reaching out to one community or another, but everybody going out and doing something where they feel comfortable. The idea that we should only pander to a certain demographic is part of the reason for the latest CFL mess. We don't want to scare off certain voters so the CFL puts out a weak survey that only covers part of Ron Paul's message and slants in one direction. The whole Ron Paul message sells well in every community. I know that from personal experience.

Just stay home. Solve your problems locally. Split up the major corporations creating smaller ones. Quit using the government. Don't sue your neighbor. Quit driving a car. Drive a scooter, commute, or walk. Don't buy a crappy car just because it saves jobs, but hold out for quality. Don't buy into the empty box of goods created by Federal lobbying. Quit calling yourself a Democrat or a Republican but live as an unalienable American. Go fishing. Don't give to your brother living under a bridge, but tolerate him being there. If the police cut holes in his or her tent, help him or her mend it. These are the simple things that Dorothy desired back in Kansas.

[Dieseler]

Its a non stop disco, I bet you its Nabisco
Betcha didn't know, WOO HOO
Its a non stop disco, I bet you its Nabisco
Betcha didn't know, WOO HOO
Its a non stop disco
Betcha didn't know
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Its a non stop disco
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[JoshLowry]

And what's with the "focusing our efforts"? Is that not just another form of collectivism? If you don't want to reach out to the black community fine you don't reach out.

Collaborating on a project together is not collectivism. :confused:

[ninepointfive]

can someone help me find that video of the guy who has a website. He throws a remote that breaks the tv for an intro. Then he gives a great stump speach for the tea party.

He's black. I'm trying to disprove someone that tea party is racist, so I need this video

[FrankRep]

He's black. I'm trying to disprove someone that tea party is racist, so I need this video

Here's this video:

Alicia Healy at the Columbus Tea Party

YouTube - Alicia Healy, Candidate at Columbus Tea Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6OCg1UuakA)

[FrankRep]

April 30 Meeting: JBS Jesse Lee Peterson on Racial Harmony, Family Values - Edmond, Oklahoma


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JBS Jesse Lee Peterson on Racial Harmony, Family Values (http://www.jbs.org/events/view/100)


The John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/) welcomes Longtime JBS member Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, Founder and Director of BOND, to Oklahoma and invites all to listen to his message of peace, racial harmony and family values.

Dinner reservations are available for Friday evening.

TIME: 9:00 AM to 11:00 AM
KRMP - 1140 AM Radio

Friday night Banquet:
Dinner: 6:30 PM
Speech: 7:30 PM


Location:

Fairview Baptist Church (Danforth & Sooner)
1230 N. Sooner Rd.
Edmond, OK 73083

Tickets: $20 for Members of OCPAC, $25 for non members
Send checks to: OCPAC - P.O. Box 2021, Edmond, OK 73083
Please include names of those attending.


Contact Info:
For information: (405)348-9991