The biggest debate yet this coming Tuesday!

[Taco John]

It just hit me like a jolt of lightning just how HUGE this upcoming debate is! Dr. Paul is going to be a marked man! I think some of the heat is going to be taken off of him and put on Fred, as it will be the first debate he's participated in... But everybody is going to be gunning for Dr. Paul, even the Fed Loving hosts (this one is sponsored by CNBC and the Wall Street Journal).

This is going to be a HUGE moment for this campaign.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

who will be attending? Ron Paul is the only economist lol

[Taco John]

By the way... Here is the debate schedule

http://leadusforward.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/debate-schedule/

[wgadget]

Will it be televised, and where?

[JosephTheLibertarian]

who will be attending?

[kpfareal]

It will be on CNBC at 4 EST, Oct. 9th. I already got it on DVR.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Giuliani and McCain taking on Ron Paul at a debate hosted by the Wall Street Journal?

Thats like Giuliani and McCain taking on Stephen Hawking at a debate hosted by the International Journal Of Theoretical Physics

[JosephTheLibertarian]

WHO will be attending? seems like the site doesn't say

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Giuliani and McCain taking on Ron Paul at a debate hosted by the Wall Street Journal?

Thats like Giuliani and McCain taking on Stephen Hawking at a debate hosted by the International Journal Of Theoretical Physics

Ron Paul is a free market economist.

Giuliani is not an economist, neither is McCain...lol They don't know the economist lingo. I'tll be like debating economics with two regular joes

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

WHO will be attending? seems like the site doesn't say

from wikipedia

Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson have said they will attend.[38] At the September 27 debate, Alan Keyes said he wanted to, but had been barred from participating.

[Sematary]

It just hit me like a jolt of lightning just how HUGE this upcoming debate is! Dr. Paul is going to be a marked man! I think some of the heat is going to be taken off of him and put on Fred, as it will be the first debate he's participated in... But everybody is going to be gunning for Dr. Paul, even the Fed Loving hosts (this one is sponsored by CNBC and the Wall Street Journal).

This is going to be a HUGE moment for this campaign.

Good. The harder they come at them, the more foolish he makes THEM look.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

from wikipedia

Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson have said they will attend.[38] At the September 27 debate, Alan Keyes said he wanted to, but had been barred from participating.

OCTOBER 9TH lol

September is gone, man

[kpfareal]

Thank God they're not allowing Alan Keyes in...

[Leslie Webb]

4 pm EST is not exactly prime time. Perhaps clips from the debate will make the evening news.

[EvilEngineer]

Wish this was going to be on during a more main stream time. Don't know if I'm going to be able to catch it all. Though I do look for Thompson to get the crap beaten out of him in the debate... finally people will get to see he's a damn moron.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

OCTOBER 9TH lol

September is gone, man

This is the Oct 9th. It was reffering to the Sept 27th debate when Keyes said he had been barred from the Oct 9th event.

[Marshall]

They're going to re-air it at 9PM EST

[anewvoice]

http://michigan4ronpaul.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=893

I encourage everyone to come out and participate! There are two major events for October 9th, the Debate and then a Ron Paul rally at University of Michigan campus in Ann Arbor.

Come out, lets show up in force once again.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I wonder if they're aware that Dr. Paul is an economist lol

[kalami]

I can picture Guiliani pulling out statistics from his ass about raising the salary of every New Yorker under his term as mayor.

I think the fox debate this month is also going to focus on the economy, but I not sure what that really entails. It's probably going to be pretty dumb downed.

[Matt Collins]

Is there a URL to the event's official site?

[brumans]

http://www.migopdebate.org

[Matt Collins]

Fascinating.... a nice welcome message from our "friend" Saulius "Saul" Anuzis on that page. I guess he is hosting the thing.

[brumans]

It's gonna be sweet. Rally before the debate at 2. Watching the debate at 4. And getting to meet/hear RP in person for a speech at around 7.

[SWATH]

Fascinating.... a nice welcome message from our "friend" Saulius "Saul" Anuzis on that page. I guess he is hosting the thing.

Saul Anuzis may have repented for his sins. He gave a glowing introduction for Ron Paul at the Mackinac Island conference. He and Ron actually joked abit back and forth over his efforts to exclude him from future debate. It was really weird, they were jokingly acting like Saul actually secretly worked for Ron Paul's campaign and together they conspired to exclude him as a publicity stunt to garner more attention and popularity.

[FSP-Rebel]

Saul Anuzis may have repented for his sins. He gave a glowing introduction for Ron Paul at the Mackinac Island conference. He and Ron actually joked abit back and forth over his efforts to exclude him from future debate. I was really weird, they were jokingly acting like Saul actually secretly worked for Ron Paul's campaign and together they conspired to exclude him as a publicity stunt to garner more attention and popularity.
Just so ya know, Saul screwed the us RPers out of debate tix (we were originally promised like a hundred). They didn't want CNBC to have to cover the audience support of Dr. Paul like (like PBS did during) the previous debate in Baltimore. Or, maybe it was a special request from Thompson or Rudy... They're also hoping to cut down on the RP rally size by having the debate so early. W/o a doubt, I can honestly say that Saul is a water boy for the elite and will smile in your face then stab you in the back. I think it's fair to say that Saully will be getting a not-so-warm reception from us 'crazies' this time.

[Matt Collins]

Saul Anuzis may have repented for his sins. He gave a glowing introduction for Ron Paul at the Mackinac Island conference. He and Ron actually joked abit back and forth over his efforts to exclude him from future debate. I was really weird, they were jokingly acting like Saul actually secretly worked for Ron Paul's campaign and together they conspired to exclude him as a publicity stunt to garner more attention and popularity.

Well, if he has any brains at all Saul will realize RP will dominate any economical topics. The only thing is, I would be willing to bet the audience won't be able to follow along anything other than "If you elect me I'll make the economy better"

[justinc.1089]

Giuliani and McCain taking on Ron Paul at a debate hosted by the Wall Street Journal?

Thats like Giuliani and McCain taking on Stephen Hawking at a debate hosted by the International Journal Of Theoretical Physics

We can pray thats what it will be like! lol

Giuliani is too concerned with his cousin, torturing people, and taking away guns and introducing a police state anyway to worry about this strange thing called an "economy." lol I think Giuliani would be like a joke I heard on tv, if they told him that communism is bad and socialism is almost communism he would say "don't worry we will make sure no communism gets in the drinking water."

I don't know what the deal with McCain is, he seems like a good guy to me and I used to like him, but after I learned about some of the stuff he has done I don't like him anymore, and I don't like a lot of things he has said in the debates either. He seems to be a sincere person but he makes the wrong choices and I feel certain he knows they aren't right. Idk maybe he was just one that fooled me lol.

Paul should look good in a debate focusing on the economy. Hopefully he will get to talk about eliminating the IRS because people love to hear that, even some democrats (the southern conservative type that are deluded into thinking the dems are still conservative).

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I don't think Ron Paul is gaining the support of the establishment... but I think he has garnered a lot of respect from them

Will this event be televised?

[justinc.1089]

He might be able to get some decent recognition from MSNBC, but not much from CNN since they could care less about conservatives to start with, and I don't think he will get decent recognition from FOX either because its full of neocons really that love Giuliani. But I think he will get better footing in the media if the campaign continues to grow the way it has been doing.

[kylejack]

from wikipedia

Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson have said they will attend.[38] At the September 27 debate, Alan Keyes said he wanted to, but had been barred from participating.
Don't worry, he's used to the feeling. He got arrested at one that he had actually been invited to and disinvited from, heh.

[brumans]

I don't think Ron Paul is gaining the support of the establishment... but I think he has garnered a lot of respect from them

Will this event be televised?

NBC

[kylejack]

Fascinating.... a nice welcome message from our "friend" Saulius "Saul" Anuzis on that page. I guess he is hosting the thing.
Saul should be banned from the debate. :cool:

[ButchHowdy]

If Saul has truly repented, let's forgive him.

Look at the bright side . . . His statement to ban RP from future debates defined 'who we are' and lit the first significant call-to-action fire under our butts . . . !

[JosephTheLibertarian]

NBC

great ratings :)

[uncloned21]

I am very excited about this one! Watch for google trends jump!

[LibertyOfOne]

Thank God they're not allowing Alan Keyes in...

Is he not pro war? If they let him in he would dilute the pro war support a bit more.

[misconstrued]

Will it be streamed online?

[Paulitician]

Sam Brownback will also be there. He's such an uninteresting candidate. Hopefully at the last minute he decides not to go. And I thought John Cox would be there too (???). Oh well. Anyway, I feel this debate will be like most others. It will focus mainly on the four celebrity candidates, and Ron Paul will hardly have any time to speak. Also, though there will be some questions about the ecomony and ecomics in general, it's not going to be anything highbrow. It will be basic stuff like taxes, trade and whatever. But who knows, hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[Matt Collins]

NBCI think you meant CNBC and then MSNBC

[Daveforliberty]

The chickenhawks will look at this as their chance to talk about small government, and steal Ron's thunder. However, they'll talk in generalities and come off as politicians. Ron will kill them with "here's how you do it. Start with pulling our troops out of 135 countries. Next, allow young people to opt out of Social Security. Next, allow sound money to compete with fiat money. Next..."

[wgadget]

I can't wait for him to ask these chickenhawks how they propose paying for all this military adventurism....

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Ron Paul is an economist, he can get into extreme detail... the other guys cannot

[brandon]

I dont care if alan keyes will dilute the vote or not. I am just so incredibly thankful I wont have to hear this raving lunatic speak again.

[jj111]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_presidential_debates%2C_2008#October_9. 2C_2007_-_Dearborn.2C_Michigan

October 9, 2007 - Dearborn, Michigan
CNBC, The Wall Street Journal, and the University of Michigan-Dearborn will host a Republican debate in Dearborn, Michigan at the Ford Community and Performing Arts Center.[36][37]

Sam Brownback, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson have said they will attend.[38] At the September 27 debate, Alan Keyes said he wanted to, but had been barred from participating.

The debate will be aired on MSNBC at 9 pm ET.

[jj111]

What happened to Hunter and Tancredo? Are they not going to be in the debate? Have they bowed out of the race?

[kylejack]

Ron Paul is an economist, he can get into extreme detail... the other guys cannot
I don't know if I'd say he's an economist. He certainly studies economics a great deal, but that's not and has never been his profession, and I don't think he's taken any classes in it.

[Original_Intent]

What happened to Hunter and Tancredo? Are they not going to be in the debate? Have they bowed out of the race?

Hunter is afraid this debate will not give him an opportunity to mention that he built 18 miles of that border fence, and wants to finish the job as president. And his son is serving his second tour in Iraq. Booyah!

Tancredo...no reason I know why he wouldn't come unless he really has no clue about the economy - it seems like this would be a good forum for him because he can tie illegals into the economy and beat on that drum a bit. Maybe he and Hunter weren't invited?

[murrayrothbard]

I don't know if I'd say he's an economist. He certainly studies economics a great deal, but that's not and has never been his profession, and I don't think he's taken any classes in it.

If you have to take classes to be an economist, then how did the first economist become one?

[Original_Intent]

I don't know if I'd say he's an economist. He certainly studies economics a great deal, but that's not and has never been his profession, and I don't think he's taken any classes in it.

He might not have taken classes, I ahve seen him school Bernanke a couple of times.

I think Ron Paul and Barney Frank are probably the only members of the Congressional Banking Committee that have Clue One about how the economy works.

[fj45lvr]

I sure as hell hope that the guys running the debate let ALL candidates answer the same question and do not allow "spontaneous" OUT OF ORDER answers (but have RIGID order)....

Ghoulianni and Romney are the kings of interruption.


Last major debate they asked those guys in the beginning 4 to 1 over others which only goes to reinforce that 1) it is a sham 2) the media creates self-fulfilled "prophecy" 3) America has yet to see a genuine debate this year that one could really consider actual debate (which requires everyone being able to answer the questions).

[uncloned21]

it's about time we had a decent debate, instead of the lousy values voters and PBS debates with stupid questions and stupid audiences. (haha)

[aravoth]

He might be able to get some decent recognition from MSNBC, but not much from CNN since they could care less about conservatives to start with, and I don't think he will get decent recognition from FOX either because its full of neocons really that love Giuliani. But I think he will get better footing in the media if the campaign continues to grow the way it has been doing.

Thats becuase the Ghoul's law firm represents the Fox News parent company. It also represents the Suadi Royal Family, and CITGO, which is a company run by Hugo Chavez.

[kylejack]

Ron Paul: "The individual income tax could be eliminated by returning to pre-2000 levels of spending. Isn't that attainable? Does anyone think we can't do that?"

Romney: "Has he forgot about 9/11?"

Ron Paul: "Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens’ lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons."

Romney: "Has he forgot about 9/11?"

McCain: "The surge is working!"

Rudy: "September 11th!"

[Bob Cochran]

Giuliani and McCain taking on Ron Paul at a debate hosted by the Wall Street Journal?

Thats like Giuliani and McCain taking on Stephen Hawking at a debate hosted by the International Journal Of Theoretical Physics

Well.........not quite! _________:rolleyes: