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Flash
12-14-2009, 08:21 PM
The contrast between Palin and her fellow 2012 contenders is perhaps most clearly illustrated by the spending habits of their respective PACs. So far for the 2009-2010 cycle, Romney's Free & Strong America PAC has given $70,717 to 24 different party entities or individual politicians, including Roy Blunt, Eric Cantor, and Bob McDonnell. That's about 2.3 percent of the $3.1 million he's raised. Likewise, Huckabee's HuckPAC has spread $15,500 of his $303,673 among 10 party entities or individual politicians, for a "party-building rate" of 5 percent. But while Palin has raised $732,767 since launching her SarahPAC last January, she's only burned through $276,200—a mere $10,000 of which went to other politicians, both of whom (John McCain and Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski) already have relationships with the former Alaska governor. Which means, in effect, that Palin has spent $0 so far on party-building, networking and chit-seeking. In fact, she recently demanded $100,000 to speak at an influential Iowa Family Policy Center event—a gig that most presidential hopefuls gladly accept for free. At SarahPAC.com, there's no mention of other candidates. There is, however, a comprehensive schedule for Palin's book tour.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/12/09/absurdly-premature-2012-watch-vol-4-is-sarah-palin-selfish.aspx?CommentPosted=true#CommonCommentForm

virgil47
12-14-2009, 08:38 PM
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/12/09/absurdly-premature-2012-watch-vol-4-is-sarah-palin-selfish.aspx?CommentPosted=true#CommonCommentForm

Do we really want her to help build up the Republican party? Perhaps if some of the independent/libertarian candidates were more accepting of her she may very well be willing to spread the wealth by sharing with them.

Flash
12-14-2009, 08:45 PM
Do we really want her to help build up the Republican party? Perhaps if some of the independent/libertarian candidates were more accepting of her she may very well be willing to spread the wealth by sharing with them.

Theres a lot of good conservatives running against establishment Republicans in 2010, what has she done to help them? Examples like Chuck DeVore & Rand Paul.

virgil47
12-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Theres a lot of good conservatives running against establishment Republicans in 2010, what has she done to help them? Examples like Chuck DeVore & Rand Paul.

Do these people actually have any chance of winning an election? If not why would anyone want to share money with them? Are any of these folks nationally known? Have any of these people reached out to her and offered their support for her agenda? If they have not done so why would she offer them financial assistance. Political help is a two way street.

Liberty Star
12-14-2009, 09:05 PM
She is also suspected to be in bed with anti American wing of Israeli lobby. Is there anything positive about this hottie?

Flash
12-14-2009, 09:09 PM
Do these people actually have any chance of winning an election?

Yep. Chuck DeVore is tied with his 'Liberal' opponent (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/66953-fiorina-devore-locked-up-for-gops-senate-nod) for the nomination. Rand Paul is (http://randforsenate.blogspot.com/2009/11/rand-paul-leads-grayson-in-recent.html) actually now the frontrunner, Marco Rubio is only 10 points behind (http://senateconservatives.com/index.php?p=post&id=53)Crist.


If not why would anyone want to share money with them?

Irrelevant, they're viable candidates. Otherwise DeMint wouldn't have given them endorsements.



Are any of these folks nationally known?

The point of Sarah's PAC (as stated on her site) is to fund candidates for 2010, why would they have to be nationally known? I guess in Conservative circles they are known, if thats what you're asking.


Have any of these people reached out to her and offered their support for her agenda?

Yep, multiple times.
Rubio (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2009/11/marco_rubio_would_love_sarah_p.php), Rand Paul (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Rand+Paul+overture+palin&btnG=Google+Search).



If they have not done so why would she offer them financial assistance. Political help is a two way street.

So it isn't about advancing the Conservative movement? Looks like Buchanan and other Palin fans are wrong-- she isn't a hero.

Recent Karl Rove interview on FOX:


VAN SUSTEREN: Jokingly, obviously. All right, one of the things that's sort of interesting is when we watch Governor Palin and people are saying, is she running, is she not running, and who knows what she's doing in that, but the focus on 2010. You've just written an op-ed -- or a piece in The Wall Street Journal. So what's the story on 2010?

ROVE: Well, first of all, I thought it was very smart of her to say, My focus is not on 2012, it's 2010. And I hope that everyone else who is thinking about 2012 listens to that because Republican candidates in 2012 will help themselves if they don't spend their time worrying about 2012 and instead focus on 2010.

If you go around the country helping candidates, you'll gain points. If you spend your time pinging between Iowa and New Hampshire, so it looks like all you're concerned about is yourself, you'll lose points among grass roots Republicans around the country. So I thought it was a very smart move on her part.

She promised she would focus on 2010 yet so far is doing nothing.

Should highlight this last part as well:

she's only burned through $276,200—a mere $10,000 of which went to other politicians, both of whom (John McCain and Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski) already have relationships with the former Alaska governor.

virgil47
12-14-2009, 09:09 PM
She is also suspected to be in bed with anti American wing of Israeli lobby. Is there anything positive about this hottie?

Every post you make seems to be against Israel or against someone who is supposedly in bed with them. Your posts have become so predictable as to be unimportant and meaningless.

virgil47
12-14-2009, 09:18 PM
Yep. Chuck DeVore is tied with his 'Liberal' opponent. Rand Paul is actually now the frontrunner, Marco Rubio is only 10 points behind Crist.



Irrelevant, they're viable candidates. Otherwise DeMint wouldn't have given them endorsements.




The point of Sarah's PAC (as stated on her site) is to fund candidates for 2010, why would they have to be nationally known? I guess in Conservative circles they are known, if thats what you're asking.



Yep, multiple times.
Rubio (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2009/11/marco_rubio_would_love_sarah_p.php), Rand Paul (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Rand+Paul+overture+palin&btnG=Google+Search).




Ah, so you admit it isn't about building the Republican Party and the Conservative movement, rather its about getting Palin some media attention. I guess Buchanan and other Palin fans are wrong. :)

Should highlight this last part as well:


Do you really believe that support for the Republican party or the Conservative movement is what will win elections? Id Rand and Rubio have indeed reached out to her and offered her support they have certainly been very quiet about it.

dr. hfn
12-14-2009, 09:20 PM
Sam Rohrer could use her help.

Flash
12-14-2009, 09:22 PM
Do you really believe that support for the Republican party or the Conservative movement is what will win elections?

Karl Rove himself said this.

sparebulb
12-14-2009, 09:23 PM
Palin troll. Provocateur, groupie, Mossad operative, or just a hater of liberty and freedom. He doesn't matter. He's probably part of the invincible Palin/Huckabee Army. He only shows up when Palin's whorishness is exposed.

virgil47
12-14-2009, 09:26 PM
Palin troll. Provocateur, groupie, Mossad operative, or just a hater of liberty and freedom. He doesn't matter. He's probably part of the invincible Palin/Huckabee Army.

Don't talk so poorly about yourself. You must be speaking of yourself because if you had any original thoughts and were capable of communicating effectively you would join the conversation on an adult level.

sparebulb
12-14-2009, 09:31 PM
Don't talk so poorly about yourself. You must be speaking of yourself because if you had any original thoughts and were capable of communicating effectively you would join the conversation on an adult level.

I find it curious that you think I was referring to you, Virgil. I guess you are familiar with your own smell.

virgil47
12-14-2009, 09:39 PM
I find it curious that you think I was referring to you, Virgil. I guess you are familiar with your own smell.

Well as I was the only poster defending Palin it was rather obvious that you were referring to my posts. Please either add something of substance to the discussion or refrain from chumming the waters hoping to get a rise.

sparebulb
12-14-2009, 09:51 PM
Well as I was the only poster defending Palin it was rather obvious that you were referring to my posts. Please either add something of substance to the discussion or refrain from chumming the waters hoping to get a rise.

I am contributing to the discussion.

When you become the Moderator, you can decide who to censor. In the meantime, why don't you just save us some time and whine to the Moderator that your feelings got hurt, like you've done before.

No one should have to tolerate your attempts to create a Bush/Obama (and certainly Palin) style "free speech zones" to suppress dissenting comment. Go back to your Palin/Huckabee boards if you can't stand to hear your heroes criticized.

Liberty Star
12-14-2009, 09:52 PM
Virgil, you may have a point, many of my recent posts were critical of Palin or anyone in bed with holy land lobby. This maybe a small step to fix that trend, here is a post on Palin without any mention of who she may be in bed with.

Most people like Palin because of her original ideas on liberties and not because of her looks. Probably one of the greatest and most unselfish visionary leaders GOP has produced since Lincoln. Although it would be better for local masses if she supported trillion dollars reconstruction for US people instead of people of other races in foreign countries. Her stance there just makes no freedom sense.

sofia
12-14-2009, 09:54 PM
Palin is George Bush in a skirt.....nothing more.

virgil47
12-14-2009, 09:59 PM
Virgil, you may have a point, many of my recent posts were critical of Palin or anyone in bed with holy land lobby. This maybe a small step to fix that trend, here is a post on Palin without any mention of who she may be in bed with.

Most people like Palin because of her original ideas on liberties and not because of her looks. Probably one of the greatest and most unselfish visionary leaders GOP has produced since Lincoln. Although it would be better for local masses if she supported trillion dollars reconstruction for US people instead of people of other races in foreign countries. Her stance there just makes no freedom sense.

Well if you were serious I'd think you"d gone round the bend. If you weren't so dependent on the anti-Israel stuff you might be able to actually contribute to meaningful discourse. I'm sure if you tried you could not be so obsessed with Israel.

sofia
12-14-2009, 10:01 PM
Well if you were serious I'd think you"d gone round the bend. If you weren't so dependent on the anti-Israel stuff you might be able to actually contribute to meaningful discourse. I'm sure if you tried you could not be so obsessed with Israel.

Israeli agents were the key players behind 911 attacks

virgil47
12-14-2009, 10:02 PM
Israeli agents were the key players behind 911 attacks

Are you sure? I thought it was the Lizard men.

purplechoe
12-14-2009, 10:29 PM
Don't talk so poorly about yourself. You must be speaking of yourself because if you had any original thoughts and were capable of communicating effectively you would join the conversation on an adult level.

You're not as intelligent as you THINK you are.

"Know thyself"

virgil47
12-14-2009, 10:38 PM
You're not as intelligent as you THINK you are.

"Know thyself"

Oooohhh another pseudo intelligent troll. LOL. Go back to sleep.

purplechoe
12-14-2009, 10:59 PM
http://mikepiperreport.com/Articles_Archive/AmericanFreePress/AFP2008_07-12/Art/AFP_20081103.p17_Sarah_Palin.525x304.jpeg.jpg

http://www.israeli-t.com/images/h42200m.jpg

purplechoe
12-14-2009, 11:00 PM
Oooohhh another pseudo intelligent troll. LOL. Go back to sleep.

a troll? pseudo intelligent? and Sarah Palin is? don't quit your day job...

are you a Zionist too? You're no friend to liberty if you stick up for that pseudo intellectual. :rolleyes:

YouTube - Sarah Palin How Dumb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1AM2DB5_A)

The Paris Hilton of the tea party movement... :rolleyes:

speciallyblend
12-14-2009, 11:10 PM
a troll? pseudo intelligent? and Sarah Palin is? don't quit your day job...

are you a Zionist too? You're no friend to liberty if you stick up for that pseudo intellectual. :rolleyes:

YouTube - Sarah Palin How Dumb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1AM2DB5_A)

The Paris Hilton of the tea party movement... :rolleyes:

bump for Paris Hilton. lmfao but that pretty much sums up palin, paris hilton.

purplechoe
12-14-2009, 11:14 PM
bump for Paris Hilton. lmfao but that pretty much sums up palin, paris hilton.

That's HOT!

http://www.sponkit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/paris-hilton1.jpg

Matt Collins
12-14-2009, 11:42 PM
YouTube - SA@TAC - What is Sarah Palin? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RgW5tgDIxY&feature=player_embedded)

purplechoe
12-15-2009, 01:13 AM
YouTube - SA@TAC - What is Sarah Palin? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RgW5tgDIxY&feature=player_embedded)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1007/1429795189_627795b1e4.jpg?v=0

Flash
12-15-2009, 10:41 PM
More like, where is Sarah Palin? Oh yeah, whoring out her book instead of fighting back against Obama's agenda.

Dianne
12-15-2009, 10:53 PM
I have to say... Palin on the GOP ticket is suicide. She is a b***** and selfish, and as narcissistic as President Barry Soetoro

Dianne
12-15-2009, 10:55 PM
In-fact... my view is the fix is in for the 2012 elections. If Palin on the ticket, you know it's the GOP gift to the demos to go ahead and taked the titanic (USA) down. Well of course, after all the republican Congress get their investments made in the new world order.

Flash
01-09-2010, 02:30 PM
Bump


But while Palin has raised $732,767 since launching her SarahPAC last January, she's only burned through $276,200—a mere $10,000 of which went to other politicians, both of whom (John McCain and Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski) already have relationships with the former Alaska governor. Which means, in effect, that Palin has spent $0 so far on party-building, networking and chit-seeking. In fact, she recently demanded $100,000 to speak at an influential Iowa Family Policy Center event—a gig that most presidential hopefuls gladly accept for free. At SarahPAC.com, there's no mention of other candidates. There is, however, a comprehensive schedule for Palin's book tour.

How can the Tea Party movement be obsessed with her? Shes doing nothing to build the party or help the 2010 candidates.

libertarian4321
01-10-2010, 12:41 PM
Just when I was going to cut a check to Sarah PAC, lol.

Actually, I have better uses for the money. Frankly, it would be a better investment to burn cash in my fire place than to send it to "Sarah PAC."

Flash
01-11-2010, 04:26 PM
Seems odd the mainstream 'Palinites' aren't commenting on this. Their hero is giving an insane amount of her PAC money to moderate establishment Republicans. I guess thats how you go rogue.

Xchange
01-11-2010, 06:13 PM
She's also Pro-Amnesty

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml;jsessionid=LW3JWTB3WPGCICWIAAOSFFQKZ AABYIWC?chid=3&schid=10414&secid=25534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

MelissaWV
01-11-2010, 06:14 PM
Did she just say that illegals should follow the bar? What the HELL does that mean?

Xchange
01-11-2010, 06:15 PM
she don't know what the hell she means


Pro-war
Pro-bailouts
Pro-Amnesty

Good Luck with that

Xchange
01-11-2010, 06:18 PM
Just when I was going to cut a check to Sarah PAC,

John Coale is the organizer of Sarah PAC...(husband of Greta Van Susteren and he was a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign)

BlackTerrel
01-11-2010, 06:21 PM
Palin is George Bush in a skirt.....nothing more.

She's better looking than George Bush in a skirt - I'll give her that.

catdd
01-11-2010, 06:26 PM
[QUOTE=Xchange;"she don't know what the hell she means"

Flash
01-11-2010, 06:28 PM
she don't know what the hell she means


Pro-war
Pro-bailouts
Pro-Amnesty

Good Luck with that

Thats why I think she'll be the Rudy Giuliani of 2012. You can't expect to get the nomination by running on the platform of "less jobs, more wars, more bailouts." Especially in this Tea Party era.

speciallyblend
01-11-2010, 06:39 PM
[QUOTE The Paris Hilton of the tea party movement... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

hit the nail on the head. that about sums up sarah palin in a nutshell!!!!

if she is part of the tea party, then i expect the tea party to be nothing but a marginalized 3rd party.. make sure my vote keeps them there...