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bobbyw24
12-14-2009, 02:30 PM
Congressman Ron Paul [R-TX] on Wednesday introduced legislation that would, if signed into law, end taxes on coins and bullion and repeal legal tender laws. The bill’s lofty goal is to reintroduce a system of competing currencies.



"At this country’s founding, there was no government controlled national currency. While the Constitution established the Congressional power of minting coins, it was not until 1792 that the US Mint was formally established," Rep. Ron Paul said.

"In the meantime, Americans made do with foreign silver and gold coins. Even after the Mint’s operations got underway, foreign coins continued to circulate within the United States, and did so for several decades.



H.R. 4248, or the Free Competition in Currency Act of 2009, includes several measures to end government controlled currency. One is to repeal Section 5103 of Title 31 of the United States Code which includes legal tender language that, according to Ron Paul, should not exist.



"There is nothing in the Constitution that grants the Congress the power to enact legal tender laws. We, the Congress, have the power to coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, but not to declare a legal tender. Yet, there is a section of US Code, 31 USC 5103, that purports to establish US coins and currency, including Federal Reserve notes, as legal tender."



Federal law currently mandates short-term capital gains rates of up to 35 percent for coins and long-term capital gains taxes of 28 percent, which Ron Paul argues is a hindrance to competitive currencies. H.R. 4248 would eliminate taxes on "any coin, medal, token, or gold, silver, platinum, palladium, or rhodium bullion" as well as restrict states from assessing taxes and fees "on any currency."

Finally, the legislation would eliminate laws that prohibit the operation of private mints, and retroactively end prosecutions and convictions of citizens who have been charged with such. Ron Paul specifically discussed this aspect of the bill as well as the raids on Liberty Dollar when he introduced the legislation. (See Liberty, Ron Paul Dollars Seized in Raid.)



"Evidently the government felt threatened, as Liberty Dollars had all their precious metal coins seized by the FBI and Secret Service in November of 2007. Of course, not all of these coins were owned by Liberty Services, as many were held in trust as backing for silver and gold certificates which Liberty Services issued. None of this matters, of course, to the government, which hates competition. The responsibility to protect contracts is of no interest to the government."



The bill has been referred to the Committee on Financial Services, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means, and the Judiciary.

For any legislation to become law, it must pass in the House, Senate and get signed by the President.

http://www.coinnews.net/2009/12/14/ron-paul-bill-seeks-coin-and-bullion-tax-ban/

Bruno
12-14-2009, 02:33 PM
I support this Bill. :)

heavenlyboy34
12-14-2009, 02:42 PM
this is one I could support. Will there be a phone bombing of congress on this?

tpreitzel
12-14-2009, 06:13 PM
HR 4248 is one of the most important bills before the US Congress besides the bill to end the Federal Reserve.

TheState
12-14-2009, 06:17 PM
HR 4248 is one of the most important bills before the US Congress besides the bill to end the Federal Reserve.

This bill could effectively end the Fed. Just removing legal tender laws robs the Fed of their only power. As soon as businesses can turn down the dollar as payment, good money will force out the bad, like an inverse Gresham's law.

Matthew Zak
12-14-2009, 06:20 PM
H.R. 4248, or the Free Competition in Currency Act of 2009

Let your reps know how you feel!

torchbearer
12-14-2009, 06:29 PM
HR4248- anyone have the text of the bill or a website reference for it?
I will probably have to bring a copy with me to the congressional office here. they won't know what i'm talking about.

TheState
12-14-2009, 06:32 PM
HR4248- anyone have the text of the bill or a website reference for it?
I will probably have to bring a copy with me to the congressional office here. they won't know what i'm talking about.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/PAUL_022_xml.pdf

torchbearer
12-14-2009, 06:33 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/PAUL_022_xml.pdf

thank you. will make a visit to the local office tomorrow.

NYgs23
12-14-2009, 07:03 PM
What's the constitutional basis for the feds to prohibit the states from taxing currency?

torchbearer
12-14-2009, 07:08 PM
What's the constitutional basis for the feds to prohibit the states from taxing currency?

that would actually fall under interstate commerce unless it is a currency derived by that state.
most currencies are used among the several states to conduct business. a tax on a currency would be basically a tarriff.

Nate
12-14-2009, 09:24 PM
Hell yeah! Hayek rocks!

TheState
12-15-2009, 08:50 AM
Bump. Paul mentioned this on CNBC this morning. It seemed to really catch Gregg off guard, who was trying to say Paul supported a gold standard.

bobbyw24
12-15-2009, 10:02 AM
Bump. Paul mentioned this on CNBC this morning. It seemed to really catch Gregg off guard, who was trying to say Paul supported a gold standard.

Excellent