Child Protection Investigators Visit Tiger Woods Home

[BlackTerrel]

Police state anyone?


The Florida Department of Children and Families, escorted by police, visited Tiger Woods’ home Saturday, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

It’s a shocking twist in a scandal that seemingly has no boundaries. The visit stems from the events leading up to Tiger’s bizarre one-car crash right after Thanksgiving.

Reports from that incident indicated there was a heated altercation between Tiger and wife Elin over his cheating. Now, the presence of DCF at Tiger’s house adds credence to those reports as it is protocol for DCF to investigate after an in-home suspected domestic violence incident.

RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively that a marked police car escorted an unmarked car to Tiger’s house around midday Saturday. Typically investigators from DCF would want to evaluate the safety of a home for children after a domestic violence incident.

Officials were at the home
for roughly an hour, sources told RadarOnline.com exclusively.

Woods two young children were at home during Thanksgiving when the golfer and Elin allegedly got into a heated argument. Elin and Tiger are parents to two-year-old daughter Sam and 10-month-old son Charlie.

Florida Highway Patrol initially investigated Woods’ car crash and the golfer refused to talk to them when they tried to schedule follow-up interviews. But refusing to talk to DCF when it is conducting an official investigation can lead to severe repercussions by state law.

It is not known if Tiger was home when the investigators were there.

Friday night, the world's top golfer issued a statement on his Web site in which he announced he's taking an indefinite break from the sport he's dominated for more than a decade.

Woods' announcement came two weeks after he drove his Cadillac Escalade over a fire hydrant and into a neighbor's tree. Woods has not been seen in public since the crash, and in the days since, he has now been linked to more than 10 women accusing him of being unfaithful to his wife of five years.

It would not be unusual for it to take this long for DCF investigators to make a home visit stemming from an incident that took place at Thanksgiving, an expert familiar with the situation told RadarOnline.com.

This isn't about Tiger Woods. It's about the kind of crap you can be put through by the police and the authorities when all that happened was you were in a car crash on your own property.

Talk about invasion of privacy.

[angelatc]

That's why you should never call the police. Once the government gets in your life they don't go away.

[Pauliana]

wow. yes, never call the police.

[lynnf]

Police state anyone?



This isn't about Tiger Woods. It's about the kind of crap you can be put through by the police and the authorities when all that happened was you were in a car crash on your own property.

Talk about invasion of privacy.


ahem... , as I've posted before, if he hit a fire hydrant, he was probably on public right-of-way and no longer on his own property, unless he had private fire plugs.

maybe they should leave the country and take the kids to Sweden ... oops, DCF might be worse there, eh?

lynn

[YumYum]

That's why you should never call the police. Once the government gets in your life they don't go away.

I disagree. While the police can and do violate people's rights, they have saved many lives also. I don't want to live in the Wild, Wild West. Tiger Woods is a sick individual, and he is a violent person. Those kids should be checked on to make sure that they are not being abused, and if he or his wife are beating them they should be taken away. If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear. Kid's rights and protection should come first.

[constituent]

If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear.

lol. Did you really just say that?

[coyote_sprit]

I disagree. While the police can and do violate people's rights, they have saved many lives also. I don't want to live in the Wild, Wild West. Tiger Woods is a sick individual, and he is a violent person. Those kids should be checked on to make sure that they are not being abused, and if he or his wife are beating them they should be taken away. If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear. Kid's rights and protection should come first.

The absence of police =/= Wild West(Which wasn't really all that wild) and yeah Tiger woods may be sick but that's a family matter none of the government's concern, they have no reason to believe he is abusing his kids and the comment I bolded is especially appalling.

[YumYum]

lol. Did you really just say that?

In his case, yeah, he is too rich and famous to take his kids away if he hasn't abused them. What if he is beating the shit out of them? What will protect those children? The Free Market?

[MelissaWV]

I disagree. While the police can and do violate people's rights, they have saved many lives also. I don't want to live in the Wild, Wild West. Tiger Woods is a sick individual, and he is a violent person. Those kids should be checked on to make sure that they are not being abused, and if he or his wife are beating them they should be taken away. If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear. Kid's rights and protection should come first.

Um, I don't think the problem is with him hurting the kids. He wasn't the one that pitched a cellphone at his wife and chipped her tooth. If he was driving off, and she's the one that bashed his window in with a golf club, I fail to see how he can be viewed as the violent one. Of course, he's got issues... none of which the kids would ever need to know about if he weren't Tiger Woods. Since he is Tiger Woods, everyone seems to think they have a right to know precise what he did with whom, how often, and how much he paid for it.

Frankly, this sort of thing should be handled within the family, and if the mom had any choice and class, the kids wouldn't really know about the specifics until they asked on their own. All they'd need to know is that mommy and daddy couldn't get along, and that daddy was mean to mommy, etc.; not which pornstar daddy did it in a Vegas hotel with, or whatever. I doubt that'd happen, though, because mommy is very likely going to get quite a bit of money out of the whole deal. (Yes I know there was a prenup.)

[YumYum]

The absence of police =/= Wild West(Which wasn't really all that wild) and yeah Tiger woods may be sick but that's a family matter none of the government's concern, they have no reason to believe he is abusing his kids and the comment I bolded is especially appalling.


If you had been the victim of domestic violence you wouldn't say that. What protection do children have against sick parents? Why do you think we have so many fucked up adults today in America? Because they were either physically or sexually abused by their parents when they were kids.

[YumYum]

Um, I don't think the problem is with him hurting the kids. He wasn't the one that pitched a cellphone at his wife and chipped her tooth. If he was driving off, and she's the one that bashed his window in with a golf club, I fail to see how he can be viewed as the violent one. Of course, he's got issues... none of which the kids would ever need to know about if he weren't Tiger Woods. Since he is Tiger Woods, everyone seems to think they have a right to know precise what he did with whom, how often, and how much he paid for it.

Frankly, this sort of thing should be handled within the family, and if the mom had any choice and class, the kids wouldn't really know about the specifics until they asked on their own. All they'd need to know is that mommy and daddy couldn't get along, and that daddy was mean to mommy, etc.; not which pornstar daddy did it in a Vegas hotel with, or whatever. I doubt that'd happen, though, because mommy is very likely going to get quite a bit of money out of the whole deal. (Yes I know there was a prenup.)

What if his wife is a lunatic and beats the kids? What protection do they have against her? My mom has an aunt that would get drunk and throw knives at her kids and her husband. Nobody reported her because of fear.

[MelissaWV]

What if his wife is a lunatic and beats the kids? What protection do they have against her? My mom has an aunt that would get drunk and throw knives at her kids and her husband. Nobody reported her because of fear.

I think you misunderstand me. I do believe that, if there's evidence of actual child abuse, it needs to be investigated. In the society we have now, for better or worse, there are authorities dedicated to that. In a better society, perhaps such investigations could be handled by private agencies that would have more resources allocated per child. However, your post said Tiger Woods was sick and if he beat them he has nothing to worry about with an investigation. The implication was automatically that the father would be the instigator. Not only that, but if the mother is abusive and the father's off having various affairs, those kids are not going to be with either parent, so there's a "fear" there, yeah.

I do find it peculiar that this is coming about. Is there direct evidence of child abuse, or is it just a witch hunt because the mother was violent towards the father? I mean, people are sometimes violent towards one another (and sometimes only in extreme cases within that relationship) but not towards their children. The two behaviors are separate. If there's no reason to suspect the children are being abused, the entire investigation is just going to make a bad situation way worse.

[lynnf]

lol. Did you really just say that?



lol he trusts the government, even after all he's seen and all we've told him.


lynn

[pcosmar]

If you had been the victim of domestic violence you wouldn't say that. What protection do children have against sick parents? Why do you think we have so many fucked up adults today in America? Because they were either physically or sexually abused by their parents when they were kids.

STFU
Most kids today play the system to get away with anything they want. Parents can't even discipline without state interference. Kids are taught in school to claim abuse to get their own way.

I have been a victim of false charges. It cost me thousands, and though the charges were dropped I still can't get hired because of background checks.

Never let the state get involved in your life. Nothing good will come of it.

[YumYum]

I think you misunderstand me. I do believe that, if there's evidence of actual child abuse, it needs to be investigated. In the society we have now, for better or worse, there are authorities dedicated to that. In a better society, perhaps such investigations could be handled by private agencies that would have more resources allocated per child. However, your post said Tiger Woods was sick and if he beat them he has nothing to worry about with an investigation. The implication was automatically that the father would be the instigator. Not only that, but if the mother is abusive and the father's off having various affairs, those kids are not going to be with either parent, so there's a "fear" there, yeah.

I do find it peculiar that this is coming about. Is there direct evidence of child abuse, or is it just a witch hunt because the mother was violent towards the father? I mean, people are sometimes violent towards one another (and sometimes only in extreme cases within that relationship) but not towards their children. The two behaviors are separate. If there's no reason to suspect the children are being abused, the entire investigation is just going to make a bad situation way worse.

I am not up on every detail of the Tiger Woods case, but if violence is involved, whether it be on Tiger's part or his wife's, the children should be taken into consideration. I know that Child Protective Services has abused their power in the past, but I also know of the horror stories about children that were abused when there was no authority to protect the children. I'll take the government's current protective services over no protection at all. There are too may parents out there raping their kids and beating them, and until we have a better system, the Child Protection Agency will have to do. What protection do the kids have against sick parents?

[YumYum]

STFU
Most kids today play the system to get away with anything they want. Parents can't even discipline without state interference. Kids are taught in school to claim abuse to get their own way.

I have been a victim of false charges. It cost me thousands, and though the charges were dropped I still can't get hired because of background checks.

Never let the state get involved in your life. Nothing good will come of it.

So tell Mr. Victim, my uncle is raping my cousin. Just what should I do? Kill him?

[ghengis86]

So tell Mr. Victim, my uncle is raping my cousin. Just what should I do? Kill him?

yes.

[RM918]

Here we go.

[forsmant]

It is absoletely retarded to think that the children are gaming the system. I am sure some are but the vast majority of children are not. Abuse goes unnoticed for long periods of time and I know for certain that you just don't know what is going on until you investigate.

In the case of Tiger Woods it has been rumored loudly that there was domestic violence between the adults. If they are willing to do violence onto each other what makes you think the kids are safe? It is clearly in need of some arbitration. Whether that be taking the kids away, I cannot say. I am hopeful the CPA is more objective but the spotlight changes people.

I swear. Sometimes I think the majority of people on this site think that only the government commits violence and invasion onto others.

[YumYum]

STFU
Most kids today play the system to get away with anything they want. Parents can't even discipline without state interference. Kids are taught in school to claim abuse to get their own way.

I have been a victim of false charges. It cost me thousands, and though the charges were dropped I still can't get hired because of background checks.

Never let the state get involved in your life. Nothing good will come of it.

I shouldn't have called you "Mr. Victim". It is very sad if you paid for a crime that you didn't commit. But you told me to "Shut the fuck up!" and I reacted accordingly. I am greatly bothered by child abuse. I have seen it too may times and I feel very troubled that our society allows it. Children that falsely accuse adults should be punished as adults if the adult is convicted of a crime that he or she didn't commit. You are a victim of our system, and I am being sincere.

[jmdrake]

I disagree. While the police can and do violate people's rights, they have saved many lives also. I don't want to live in the Wild, Wild West. Tiger Woods is a sick individual, and he is a violent person. Those kids should be checked on to make sure that they are not being abused, and if he or his wife are beating them they should be taken away. If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear. Kid's rights and protection should come first.

:rolleyes: And the evidence that you have of Tiger being violent is.....? So far his wife hasn't had to go to the hospital. All the evidence shows he was on the receiving end of a beating. Maybe you think he deserves it. But that doesn't make him violent or a threat to his kids.

[Met Income]

I disagree. While the police can and do violate people's rights, they have saved many lives also. I don't want to live in the Wild, Wild West. Tiger Woods is a sick individual, and he is a violent person. Those kids should be checked on to make sure that they are not being abused, and if he or his wife are beating them they should be taken away. If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear. Kid's rights and protection should come first.

What evidence have you seen that says the Wild Wild West was more dangerous than today's time?

Why does the state HAVE to be the defense system?

The "If X didn't happen you have nothing to fear." argument has been tirelessly used by governments to strip away civil liberties. Patriot Act much?

[LibForestPaul]

I am not up on every detail of the Tiger Woods case, but if violence is involved, whether it be on Tiger's part or his wife's, the children should be taken into consideration.
WHY? If I engage in a violent act I am immediately suspect? What male here hasn't at some point in their life?


I know that Child Protective Services has abused their power in the past, but I also know of the horror stories about children that were abused when there was no authority to protect the children. I'll take the government's current protective services over no protection at all.
WHY?


There are too may parents out there raping their kids and beating them, and until we have a better system, the Child Protection Agency will have to do. What protection do the kids have against sick parents?
You believe CPA is there to protect children? Did the children vote for them? Were any of the bureaucrats for CPS voted for directly by the people, as Sheriffs are?

[qh4dotcom]

STFU

I have been a victim of false charges. It cost me thousands, and though the charges were dropped I still can't get hired because of background checks.

Never let the state get involved in your life. Nothing good will come of it.

Unfortunately for some people, letting the government get involved in their lives is good for them because they get government handouts.

You don't need to get hired if you start an internet business. For example, Ebay won't conduct a background check on you

[Pepsi]

It's retarded that CPS takes kids away from thier pairents.

[No1ButPaul08]

That's why you should never call the police. Once the government gets in your life they don't go away.

Yes, but Tiger and family didn't call the police. It was their neighbor, not much you can do about that, except refuse to talk to them.

[John E]

That's why you should never call the police. Once the government gets in your life they don't go away.

I agree....

[John E]

YumYum -- you have absolutely no idea how bad foster care is do you?

I forget the exact stats but the vast majority fail out of high school and do not go on to college and nearly all of the girls become teenage pregnancies.

[Kylie]

So tell Mr. Victim, my uncle is raping my cousin. Just what should I do? Kill him?



YES.

Quickly and efficiently.

My family adopted my sister when she was 4, and up to that point she had been abused constantly. She was a fucked up mess, had seizures whenever her biological mother showed up (which didn't happen often after we got her).

Her mother chose her baby-raping boyfriend over her own daughters. DCFS was called, but they closed the case. If I could go back and find the opportunity to kill that piece of shit, even though I was only 9, I would do it. In fact, I asked my fathers permission but he said no. Imagine being my Dad and having your 9 year old ask if she can kill a grown man.

What did I learn from that situation? Don't ask permission to do something you know needs to be done. Ask for forgiveness after the fact. That and you can't fix that kind of fucked up. Just shoot them dead and move on.

[MelissaWV]

*awkward* x2

[pcosmar]

I am greatly bothered by child abuse. I have seen it too may times and I feel very troubled that our society allows it. Children that falsely accuse adults should be punished as adults if the adult is convicted of a crime that he or she didn't commit. You are a victim of our system, and I am being sincere.
No, society should not "allow" it. It should be handled by Family first, and then community.
My greatest regret is letting an abusive man live. I let my peaceful nature get the best of me. As a result, my stepdaughters child was taken away from her and at least one person (who tried to help) has been killed. He still walks the earth.
I should have killed him when I had the chance. I live with that regret. It will not happen again.

[nbhadja]

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[BlackTerrel]

ahem... , as I've posted before, if he hit a fire hydrant, he was probably on public right-of-way and no longer on his own property, unless he had private fire plugs.

maybe they should leave the country and take the kids to Sweden ... oops, DCF might be worse there, eh?

lynn

Where Tiger lived you had to pay to have a fire hydrant on your property... at least from what I have read.

[BlackTerrel]

I disagree. While the police can and do violate people's rights, they have saved many lives also.

I don't disagree. There are also police that solve crimes and put real criminals away. I fully agree.


Tiger Woods is a sick individual, and he is a violent person.

Whoa. Based on what would you make that accusation?


Those kids should be checked on to make sure that they are not being abused, and if he or his wife are beating them they should be taken away. If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear. Kid's rights and protection should come first.

I think that's very naive. And even if they aren't taken away his rights are still being violated.

[Danke]

Where Tiger lived you had to pay to have a fire hydrant on your property... at least from what I have read.

He did hit a tree on a neighbor's property.

But that really doesn't matter, pretty easy to tell the CPS to fuck off if you know what you are doing.

[Pepsi]

I belive the Media should leave Tiger and his family along. Let them deal with thier problems with out blasting it 24 hours a day on tv. There Climategate and healthcare take over they can report on.

[Romulus]

speaking of defending those who cant defend themselves... its sticky situation.. abused kids need protection.. but CPS and the loser families both have their drawbacks, I dont know which one is worse really.. both can be bad in their own way.

[GBurr]

Yum Yum is just spouting crap as usually. The state has no evidence of child abuse. The only thing they have is a wife that found her husband was cheating on her may have gone after the husband with a golf club. That doesn't even involve the kids.

[__27__]

"If he hasn't harmed them he has nothing to fear."

Disgusting.

[Working Poor]

I think if anyone had the children's best interest at heart it would this not be being discussed in the media.

Child abuse is terrible Tigers children will never have any privacy about this and that is just as terrible.

[YumYum]

Disgusting. Those poor kids.

[BlackTerrel]

Disgusting. Those poor kids.

Based on what?

[YumYum]

Based on what?

Horrible rumors!

[pcosmar]

Horrible rumors!

Rumor

1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay.

:cool:

[YumYum]

Rumor


:cool:

Thanks for the info!:D