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bobbyw24
12-12-2009, 07:11 AM
By Marcelo Balive, New America Media. Posted December 11, 2009.

Will a treacherous economic landscape ruin the Obama administration's chances of delivering on immigration reform?

In the wake of President Obama's "jobs summit," the debate about how illegal immigration impacts unemployment has risen in volume. For Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, the summit was fatally flawed because it did not directly address illegal immigration.

"Notably absent from the president’s jobs summit is any discussion of how to take back the 8 million jobs currently occupied by illegal immigrants and make them available to out-of-work U.S. citizens and legal immigrants," he wrote on Politico.com.

Rep. Smith, a fifth-generation Texan and a known Capitol Hill immigration hardliner, asked: “How can the administration justify giving millions of jobs to illegal immigrants when the economy is struggling with a 10 percent unemployment rate?”

He's right about the numbers. An estimated 5 percent of the U.S. labor force is made up of undocumented immigrants, meaning they hold 8 million jobs (that number's generally not disputed). But what's not so clear is how many of those positions are truly jobs Americans would compete for, at the wages offered, even with high unemployment.

Several studies suggest that among Americans and legal residents, it's mainly those lacking a high school diploma who are competing directly with undocumented immigrants for jobs (and by most estimates, that's less than one out of every 10 U.S. workers).

A 2006 study by Giovanni Peri, a professor of economics at the University of California, Davis, concluded that immigration actually benefits more educated U.S. workers by boosting overall productivity, resulting in wage increases for degree-holders.

A widely cited 2008 study by the Perryman Group for Americans for Immigration Reform, a business-led coalition, went even further. Deporting undocumented workers en masse -- the study calls the workers an "essential resource" -- would have the net result of erasing thousands of jobs permanently in many states, not to mention being a prohibitively expensive exercise.

Of course, that's cold comfort to millions of U.S. workers who lack a high school diploma and feel they are being undercut by undocumented foreign workers.

A study released this month by Gordon H. Hanson, of the University of California, San Diego and the National Bureau of Economic Research, cites an estimate that American high school dropouts lost 9 percent of their income over one recent 20-year period, due to illegal immigration.

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Dunedain
12-12-2009, 08:03 AM
Let's remove all illegal aliens from the country so we can cut the employment rate in half. A few billion should do it. $1000 checks could be awarded to anyone that reports the name and address of an illegal immigrant to the INS resulting in their deportation. The American assets recovered could be used to compensate the patriots that turn them in. A

They're not supposed to be here anyway (unless you support amnesty).

FSP-Rebel
12-12-2009, 01:36 PM
Let's remove all illegal aliens from the country so we can cut the employment rate in half. A few billion should do it. $1000 checks could be awarded to anyone that reports the name and address of an illegal immigrant to the INS resulting in their deportation. The American assets recovered could be used to compensate the patriots that turn them in. A

They're not supposed to be here anyway (unless you support amnesty).
I sure hope my name and address aren't reported by someone in your proposed scheme of snitches, by mistake..

Brian4Liberty
12-12-2009, 02:07 PM
In the wake of President Obama's "jobs summit," the debate about how illegal immigration impacts unemployment has risen in volume. For Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, the summit was fatally flawed because it did not directly address illegal immigration.

"Notably absent from the president’s jobs summit is any discussion of how to take back the 8 million jobs currently occupied by illegal immigrants and make them available to out-of-work U.S. citizens and legal immigrants," he wrote on Politico.com.

What does he consider a "legal immigrant"? If it is someone who has already become a citizen, that makes sense.

But if he still advocates large numbers of H1-B and (unlimited) L-1 new immigrant visas, he completely misses the point of reducing unemployment.

Met Income
12-12-2009, 04:15 PM
There's never a real justification for protectionism. Let business owners run their operations how they see fit. If they want to hire a legal immigrant, others should have no right to prevent them.