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TCE
12-08-2009, 08:38 PM
AP sources: Dems reach deal to drop public option

By DAVID ESPO (AP) – 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — After days of secret talks, Senate Democrats tentatively agreed Tuesday night to drop a government-run insurance option from sweeping health care legislation, several officials said, a concession to party moderates whose votes are critical to passage of President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

Majority Leader Harry Reid refused to provide any details at a mid-evening news conference where he told reporters a "broad agreement" had been reached between liberals and moderates on the controversial issue.

With it, he said, the end is in sight for passage of the legislation that Congress has labored over for months.

In place of a government-run plan, originally designed as a way of forcing competition on private industry, officials said the Democrats had tentatively settled on a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage. Additionally, the tentative deal calls for Medicare to be opened to uninsured Americans beginning at age 55, a significant expansion of the large government health care program that currently serves the 65-and-over population.

The officials who described the details did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss them publicly. Despite their reluctance, some senators had talked openly earlier in the day about the progress of the negotiations.

The developments followed a vote on the Senate floor earlier in the day in which abortion opponents failed to inject tougher restrictions into sweeping health care bill, and Democratic leaders labored to make sure fallout from the issue didn't hamper the drive to enact legislation. The vote was 54-45.


WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic senators say they have a tentative deal to drop a government-run insurance option from health care legislation.

No further details were immediately available.

But liberals and moderates have been discussing an alternative, including a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage. Additionally, talks centered on opening up Medicare to uninsured Americans beginning at age 55, a significant expansion of the large government health care program that currently serves the over-65 population.

Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa told reporters he didn't like the agreement but would support it to the hilt in an attempt to pass health care legislation.




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TCE
12-08-2009, 09:20 PM
I'm hoping Bernie Sanders finally has had enough and stops supporting this monstrosity.

SevenEyedJeff
12-08-2009, 09:31 PM
So what about the fines and jail time for not having coverage? I don't see anything on that. Does the dropped public option take away those possibilities?

And another thing....if it passes, the differences between the House and Senate bill have to be worked out in committee, so we could get more bad stuff in the end.

sparebulb
12-08-2009, 10:23 PM
So what about the fines and jail time for not having coverage? I don't see anything on that. Does the dropped public option take away those possibilities?

I'm willing to guarantee that the provisions will remain. O, himself, stated that there needed to be a mechanism to insure that there aren't those that get a "free ride". He has no problem with the 20 million illegal criminal aliens already on the free ride.

See you in prison.

NYgs23
12-08-2009, 10:24 PM
I'm confused. So they'll fine you if you don't purchase private health insurance, yet there's no "public option" if you can't afford the private insurance? Amazing how this "reform" seems to be mutating into a giveaway to the health insurance industry--the very bunch its supporters have been telling us the bill is meant to squelch. What a shocker.

Ricky201
12-09-2009, 02:10 AM
So throw away some of the socialism, but guarantee more prison time for a non-victimless crime? I'm sorry, but the most appalling part about this bill in the first place was that fact that they wanted to send people to jail for not wanting health care insurance.

And I'd LOVE to see them put extra people on Medicare during a depression.

Epic
12-09-2009, 03:06 AM
I'm hoping Bernie Sanders finally has had enough and stops supporting this monstrosity.

Sanders likes the bill - it'll be horrible and then people will clamor for single-payer socialist medicine to fix everything.

YumYum
12-09-2009, 03:38 AM
Will we have medical coverge and medical care in the FEMA camps?

hugolp
12-09-2009, 04:26 AM
One step at a time. It will come. This is just one step more.