The New Anti-War Right

[bobbyw24]

If Obama thinks the left is rapidly abandoning him on Afghanistan, wait till he sees the Republican defectors.

Thus far, President Obama has primarily been worried about his left flank as he sends more troops to Afghanistan. He should be just as worried about his friends on the right. I fully expect that over the next year Republicans will begin to abandon the president en masse over Afghanistan.

Obama’s saving grace on Afghanistan has been that conservatives, from the Republican leadership in Congress to Sarah Palin to leading foreign-policy thinkers like Bill Kristol of The Weekly Standard, have backed a troop surge and have been mostly willing to back the White House on this particular issue. But now Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican known for his independent streak, has made a conservative case for withdrawal. And my guess is that by the 2010 congressional elections, dozens of Republican candidates will be doing the same across the country.

There is a growing sense that the U.S. military is too hamstrung by concern about civilian casualties and political correctness to wage an effective military campaign under Obama.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-04/the-new-anti-war-right/

[Romulus]

this needs to be used to wake people up on both sides of the paradigm.

[Oyate]

Hamstrung by concerns for civilian casualties? These wars have cost HORRENDOUS civilian casualties. But the point I see waiting in the wings here is the old "fighting with one arm tied behind our backs" which is a BULLSHIT copout by the military and neocons. We're fighting people dressed in rags, firing antique rifles at us with the most sophisticated military machine on the face of the Earth.

Make no mistake, it's pure partisanship. And Willy and Irving Krystol can kiss my ass.

[angelatc]

To see a response from the neocon side, click here (http://anonymity.com/?http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/antiwar-conservatism.html)

[acptulsa]

this needs to be used to wake people up on both sides of the paradigm.

The paradigm.

There are two of those things. There's the paper paradigm of "left vs. right" and there's the real paradigm of "haves vs. have-nots". And the Haves are getting sufficiently carried away to make this rift grow--grow to the point that the paper paradigm rips like an overstretched banner.

This is our key, and our chance.

[Cowlesy]

To see a response from the neocon side, click here (http://anonymity.com/?http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/antiwar-conservatism.html)

good grief.

The neoconservative foreign policy, someday, will be shown to be one of the most flawed policies of the past century, and ultimately detrimental to the national interest.

[acptulsa]

good grief.

The neoconservative foreign policy, someday, will be shown to be one of the most flawed policies of the past century, and ultimately detrimental to the national interest.

I think this has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. The only question remaining is, when will tptb admit it?

[Romulus]

good grief.

The neoconservative foreign policy, someday, will be shown to be one of the most flawed policies of the past century, and ultimately detrimental to the national interest.

you know what.. liberals and obamabots are now parroting this policy, since their leader is acting upon it.

and THAT is why we need anti-war liberals more than ever, like M Moore, Kucinich and use them as leverage.

[dannno]

I think this has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. The only question remaining is, when will tptb admit it?

Or kahless?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=221789

[acptulsa]

you know what.. liberals and obamabots are now parroting this policy, since their leader is acting upon it.

To some degree, yes. But more often liberals are simply getting disenfranchised and disgusted.

Which smells to me like opportunity.

[Southron]

The fact is that we don't fight in Afghanistan or Iraq like either is an actual war. There are no military targets!

What we have is an eternal police force with an occasional bombing campaign. 8 plus years in Afghanistan and 6 plus in Iraq and the US people get to pay for this security.

I remember hearing the other day that it costs 1 million per day per soldier to sustain them overseas.

This is about nation building plain and simple so we can set up our puppet governments in both countries. All in the name of security while our National Government tries to get more world power.