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wildfirepower
12-07-2009, 06:04 AM
On a normal day, Majken Friss Jorgensen, managing director of Copenhagen's biggest limousine company, says her firm has twelve vehicles on the road. During the "summit to save the world", which opens here tomorrow, she will have 200.

"We thought they were not going to have many cars, due to it being a climate convention," she says. "But it seems that somebody last week looked at the weather report."

Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. "We haven't got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand," she says. "We're having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden."

And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? "Five," says Ms Jorgensen. "The government has some alternative fuel cars but the rest will be petrol or diesel. We don't have any hybrids in Denmark, unfortunately, due to the extreme taxes on those cars. It makes no sense at all, but it's very Danish."

The airport says it is expecting up to 140 extra private jets during the peak period alone, so far over its capacity that the planes will have to fly off to regional airports – or to Sweden – to park, returning to Copenhagen to pick up their VIP passengers.

As well 15,000 delegates and officials, 5,000 journalists and 98 world leaders, the Danish capital will be blessed by the presence of Leonardo DiCaprio, Daryl Hannah, Helena Christensen, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Prince Charles. A Republican US senator, Jim Inhofe, is jetting in at the head of an anti-climate-change "Truth Squad." The top hotels – all fully booked at £650 a night – are readying their Climate Convention menus of (no doubt sustainable) scallops, foie gras and sculpted caviar wedges.

At the takeaway pizza end of the spectrum, Copenhagen's clean pavements are starting to fill with slightly less well-scrubbed protesters from all over Europe. In the city's famous anarchist commune of Christiania this morning, among the hash dealers and heavily-graffitied walls, they started their two-week "Climate Bottom Meeting," complete with a "storytelling yurt" and a "funeral of the day" for various corrupt, "heatist" concepts such as "economic growth".

The Danish government is cunningly spending a million kroner (£120,000) to give the protesters KlimaForum, a "parallel conference" in the magnificent DGI-byen sports centre. The hope, officials admit, is that they will work off their youthful energies on the climbing wall, state-of-the-art swimming pools and bowling alley, Just in case, however, Denmark has taken delivery of its first-ever water-cannon – one of the newspapers is running a competition to suggest names for it – plus sweeping new police powers. The authorities have been proudly showing us their new temporary prison, 360 cages in a disused brewery, housing 4,000 detainees.

And this being Scandinavia, even the prostitutes are doing their bit for the planet. Outraged by a council postcard urging delegates to "be sustainable, don't buy sex," the local sex workers' union – they have unions here – has announced that all its 1,400 members will give free intercourse to anyone with a climate conference delegate's pass. The term "carbon dating" just took on an entirely new meaning.

At least the sex will be C02-neutral. According to the organisers, the eleven-day conference, including the participants' travel, will create a total of 41,000 tonnes of "carbon dioxide equivalent", equal to the amount produced over the same period by a city the size of Middlesbrough.

The temptation, then, is to dismiss the whole thing as a ridiculous circus. Many of the participants do not really need to be here. And far from "saving the world," the world's leaders have already agreed that this conference will not produce any kind of binding deal, merely an interim statement of intent.

Instead of swift and modest reductions in carbon – say, two per cent a year, starting next year – for which they could possibly be held accountable, the politicians will bandy around grandiose targets of 80-per-cent-plus by 2050, by which time few of the leaders at Copenhagen will even be alive, let alone still in office.

Even if they had agreed anything binding, past experience suggests that the participants would not, in fact, feel bound by it. Most countries – Britain excepted – are on course to break the modest pledges they made at the last major climate summit, in Kyoto.

And as the delegates meet, they do so under a shadow. For the first time, not just the methods but the entire purpose of the climate change agenda is being questioned. Leaked emails showing key scientists conspiring to fix data that undermined their case have boosted the sceptic lobby. Australia has voted down climate change laws. Last week's unusually strident attack by the Energy Secretary, Ed Miliband, on climate change "saboteurs" reflected real fear in government that momentum is slipping away from the cause.

In Copenhagen there was a humbler note among some delegates. "If we fail, one reason could be our overconfidence," said Simron Jit Singh, of the Institute of Social Ecology. "Because we are here, talking in a group of people who probably agree with each other, we can be blinded to the challenges of the other side. We feel that we are the good guys, the selfless saviours, and they are the bad guys."

As Mr Singh suggests, the interesting question is perhaps not whether the climate changers have got the science right – they probably have – but whether they have got the pitch right. Some campaigners' apocalyptic predictions and religious righteousness – funeral ceremonies for economic growth and the like – can be alienating, and may help explain why the wider public does not seem to share the urgency felt by those in Copenhagen this week.

In a rather perceptive recent comment, Mr Miliband said it was vital to give people a positive vision of a low-carbon future. "If Martin Luther King had come along and said 'I have a nightmare,' people would not have followed him," he said.

Over the next two weeks, that positive vision may come not from the overheated rhetoric in the conference centre, but from Copenhagen itself. Limos apart, it is a city filled entirely with bicycles, stuffed with retrofitted, energy-efficient old buildings, and seems to embody the civilised pleasures of low-carbon living without any of the puritanism so beloved of British greens.

And inside the hall, not everything is looking bad. Even the sudden rush for limos may be a good sign. It means that more top people are coming, which means they scent something could be going right here.

The US, which rejected Kyoto, is on board now, albeit too tentatively for most delegates. President Obama's decision to stay later in Copenhagen may signal some sort of agreement between America and China: a necessity for any real global action, and something that could be presented as a "victory" for the talks.

The hot air this week will be massive, the whole proceedings eminently mockable, but it would be far too early to write off this conference as a failure.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-and-caviar-wedges.html

wildfirepower
12-07-2009, 11:22 AM
These people have forgotten video conferencing.

HOLLYWOOD
12-07-2009, 11:25 AM
These people have forgotten video conferencing.


But then you can't get the "ROYAL TREATMENT" with the free Booze, Hookers, and family expensed vacations/sightseeing.

Elwar
12-07-2009, 11:27 AM
Great for the private plane and limo industry.

John E
12-07-2009, 11:37 AM
It really is a shame, I hear that Copenhagen is a very walkable city and trains running from the airport to the major parts of town.

dannno
12-07-2009, 11:45 AM
We don't have any hybrids in Denmark, unfortunately, due to the extreme taxes on those cars. It makes no sense at all, but it's very Danish.


I agree, these damn things don't make any sense at all. I mean, is it a donut or a jelly bowl or what??

http://ruzdiamond.com/cohensbakery/images/Assorted%20Danish.jpg

CasualApathy
12-07-2009, 11:59 AM
I know why they are here.
2 (as in two) weeks before the conference began the city-government of Copenhagen decided to launch a campaign saying that prostitution is immoral and hurts the women, this was to be launched to "educate" the people participating during the summit and consists of postcards placed at hotels and at the conference itself. Now you need to understand that prostitution is perfectly legal here in Denmark and has been for a long long time (Denmark was the first country to unleash the mighty porn as well, after all). Now - as a responce to the anti-prostitution campaign brothels across all of copenhagen have decided to offer FREE SEX to ANYONE who delivers one of said postcards to them and is able to show a climate-conference ID badge. No joke...

Mystery solved.

EDIT: Now how do i get myself one of those?

Danke
12-07-2009, 12:02 PM
. Now - as a responce to the anti-prostitution campaign brothels across all of copenhagen have decided to offer FREE SEX to ANYONE who delivers one of said postcards to them and is able to show a climate-conference ID badge. No joke...



Free!?! Really? Does that included taxes and gratuity?

silverhandorder
12-07-2009, 12:03 PM
LOL nice...

CasualApathy
12-07-2009, 12:04 PM
Free!?! Really? Does that included taxes and gratuity?

It's totally free i suppose.

idirtify
12-07-2009, 12:09 PM
If hypocrisy is a greenhouse gas, we are all doomed.

I wonder if the summit will be talking about the carbon footprint of unnecessary wars. I can’t think of anything less energy-efficient and more wasteful.

While Obama has just made a proclamation that carbon emissions are harmful to the environment implying an intent to reduce them, he had just previously escalated his war.

I’ve heard the US government is the biggest polluter in the world, and I’m not even sure that includes their military.

idirtify
12-07-2009, 12:15 PM
I know why they are here.
2 (as in two) weeks before the conference began the city-government of Copenhagen decided to launch a campaign saying that prostitution is immoral and hurts the women, this was to be launched to "educate" the people participating during the summit and consists of postcards placed at hotels and at the conference itself. Now you need to understand that prostitution is perfectly legal here in Denmark and has been for a long long time (Denmark was the first country to unleash the mighty porn as well, after all). Now - as a responce to the anti-prostitution campaign brothels across all of copenhagen have decided to offer FREE SEX to ANYONE who delivers one of said postcards to them and is able to show a climate-conference ID badge. No joke...

Mystery solved.

EDIT: Now how do i get myself one of those?

That’s hilarious; BECAUSE IT’S SOOOO CREDIBLE. Wow. With all those cards coming in, and a little candid-camera sleuthing, the brothels could gather enough dirt on the politicians to control the world.

CasualApathy
12-07-2009, 12:16 PM
I agree, these damn things don't make any sense at all. I mean, is it a donut or a jelly bowl or what??

http://ruzdiamond.com/cohensbakery/images/Assorted%20Danish.jpg

They are all of that and much more... :)

This is more traditional danish food though
http://grydeskeen.dk/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/hak05.jpg

Edit: damn that picture is huge... Anyway - meat, potatoes and brown sauce. The 3 basic necessities.

zach
12-07-2009, 12:25 PM
Now all you need is some good beer.

ONTOPIC: Anyway, why the hell should people listen to them about curbing greenhouse gas emissions when they don't even practice what they preach?

CasualApathy
12-07-2009, 12:29 PM
Now all you need is some good beer.

ONTOPIC: Anyway, why the hell should people listen to them about curbing greenhouse gas emissions when they don't even practice what they preach?

They shouldn't.

The sentiment has changed quite a bit among my countrymen during the last couple of weeks. Most people see the hypocracy, and climate-gate got some decent media coverage as well. It's pretty encouraging really though we are still a growing minority.

dannno
12-07-2009, 12:39 PM
ONTOPIC:

No!! I want to find out how to get a badge and a ticket to Copenhagen so I can visit all of the brothels for this free sex they speak of... wtfsickle?!


Why doesn't anything good like that ever happen to me?!

zach
12-07-2009, 01:42 PM
No!! I want to find out how to get a badge and a ticket to Copenhagen so I can visit all of the brothels for this free sex they speak of... wtfsickle?!


Why doesn't anything good like that ever happen to me?!

Just say that you're Obama's sexy green monster. ;)

CasualApathy
12-07-2009, 02:22 PM
Crowd going wild at climate-concert in the center of "Hopenhagen"(yuck) tonight.

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00498/COP15__Officiel__bn_498285m.jpg

I wonder how much CO2 that little gig produces...

EDIT: Interesting side note, they actually tried to ban the christmas tree!

acptulsa
12-07-2009, 02:31 PM
Anyone see Who Killed the Electric Car? An environmentalist group operated a beautiful 1966 Pontiac hearse at walking speed as part of their demonstration against the carmakers for not continuing their money-losing lease program and/or selling the cars to a public unused to replacing twenty-nine expensive batteries (at a cost similar to replacing a transmission) periodically. A 1966 hearse, restored, and powered by a 6.9 liter, carbureted V-8. Environmentalists.

It doesn't matter what they do, because their hearts are in the right place. It only matters what we do for our own convenience. How many times do they have to demonstrate that this is their attitude before we get it?

tangent4ronpaul
12-07-2009, 03:19 PM
I know why they are here.
2 (as in two) weeks before the conference began the city-government of Copenhagen decided to launch a campaign saying that prostitution is immoral and hurts the women, this was to be launched to "educate" the people participating during the summit and consists of postcards placed at hotels and at the conference itself. Now you need to understand that prostitution is perfectly legal here in Denmark and has been for a long long time (Denmark was the first country to unleash the mighty porn as well, after all). Now - as a responce to the anti-prostitution campaign brothels across all of copenhagen have decided to offer FREE SEX to ANYONE who delivers one of said postcards to them and is able to show a climate-conference ID badge. No joke...

Mystery solved.

EDIT: Now how do i get myself one of those?

Best line in the whole article:

The term "carbon dating" just took on an entirely new meaning.

ROTFLMAO!

-t

devil21
12-07-2009, 03:38 PM
Crowd going wild at climate-concert in the center of "Hopenhagen"(yuck) tonight.

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00498/COP15__Officiel__bn_498285m.jpg

I wonder how much CO2 that little gig produces...

EDIT: Interesting side note, they actually tried to ban the christmas tree!

Wow...and the climate freaks say it isn't a religion. That pic looks just like the evangelical concerts.

idirtify
12-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Most American “environmentalists” are into energy conservation about as much as turkeys are into thanksgiving. They don’t want to stoop to the two most logical types of energy conservation: reusing and reducing. It’s degrading to their pride and they like buying new stuff way too much. Their idea basically consists of curbside recycling or driving a few small bags to the local container/center. They have not the slightest interest in understanding (let alone doing something about) the most fundamental wastes, like their food, clothing, shelter, sewage and transportation.

But municipal recycling is a hoax. It wastes more energy than it saves.
Mises org says:
“What John Tierney wrote in the New York Times nearly 10 years ago is still true: ‘Recycling may be the most wasteful activity in modern America’."
http://mises.org/daily/1911
David Aadland (University of Wyoming) and Arthur J. Caplan (Utah State University) say:
“the estimated mean social net benefit of curbside recycling is almost exactly zero”.
http://ideas.repec.org/p/wpa/wuwpot/0310001.html

The amount of money and energy they waste on food alone is incredible, and is the result of nothing more than spoiled pride. They buy the most expensive refrigerators, replace them wayyy before they break, and hardly keep any food in them because they refuse to eat cold leftovers. The amount of discarded food is staggering, but they can’t just “throw it out” – they have to spend even more energy to send it down the drain through a garbage disposal. They eat out in restaurants as often as possible, which is possibly the MOST wasteful food on the planet. Speaking of restaurants and grocery stores; on a daily basis, thousands of tons of fruits and vegetables and millions of farm animals die for nothing other than to feed maggots at the local landfill and produce greenhouse gasses in the process (gets thrown in the dumpster) – all because of finicky and spoiled Americans and ridiculous expiration-date laws. And it’s illegal to recycle ANYTHING at most landfills.

Nor do Americans approve of the most logical type of recycling: dumpster diving.

(Believe me about these things; I’m a dumpster-diver and you would not believe what my eyes have seen and the social resistance I have encountered.)

The amount of money and energy wasted on clothes is inestimable. Landfills are becoming choked with clothes. Again the result of nothing more than spoiled pride. Even though there is enough second-hand clothes for everybody (that look no worse), Americans love to blow oodles of cash on new clothes. New clothes have got to be the most overpriced commodity on Earth. There are not enough charity organizations and yard sales and second-hand stores to hold all the used clothes. I know for a fact that more than half of all the used clothes donated to goodwill-type outlets go straight into the dumpster BEFORE going on the shelf. The American attitude about clothing is about as far from energy conservation as possible. It’s a social pariah to walk around with a stain on your shirt. Since clothes are generally washed after ONE DAY of wear, the energy spent on laundry is immense.

If only I had the time and patience for a real article! Believe me, I could go on and on – about yard and landscape waste; about absolutely wasting 100% of our sewage by pumping it underground instead of fertilizing our crops; about the vast wastes involved in architecture and remodeling and furniture and carpet and etc – again, all for nothing more than good looks. Which proves that Americans are about as ready to get serious about energy conservation as they are ready to drive horses and buggies. It’s all bullshit. Americans do not REALLY want to protect the environment; they only want to force YOU to do that.

Danke
12-07-2009, 05:37 PM
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Dianne
12-07-2009, 08:20 PM
Why do they need all those limos... how many hundreds of maggots gonna be there. Last time I looked 1000 maggots could fit into one hand.

coyote_sprit
12-07-2009, 08:23 PM
If they weren't too stuck up to cram into them maybe they could justify this. Limos fit a lot more then 2-3 people. Maybe they could rent a bus.

tangent4ronpaul
12-07-2009, 08:31 PM
If they weren't too stuck up to cram into them maybe they could justify this. Limos fit a lot more then 2-3 people. Maybe they could rent a bus.

You have to take account for all the hookers - er "call girls" - er "escorts" - not to mention the massive contingency of body guards.... and, uh - "staff"....

-t

tangent4ronpaul
12-07-2009, 08:33 PM
Crowd going wild at climate-concert in the center of "Hopenhagen"(yuck) tonight.

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00498/COP15__Officiel__bn_498285m.jpg

I wonder how much CO2 that little gig produces...

EDIT: Interesting side note, they actually tried to ban the christmas tree!

Dang! - some Danish girls are pretty HOT!!!!!

-t