The CFR Likes Chem-trails... so should you!

[teacherone]

Copenhagen, Schmopenhagen
By Jesse Ellison | NEWSWEEK
Published Nov 28, 2009
From the magazine issue dated Dec 7, 2009

There will be no climate treaty to emerge from the conference in Copenhagen this month, global leaders now concede. But there may be alternative ways to help combat global warming. Various methods of geo--engineering employ unorthodox means to cool the planet. Advocates say that some of these proposals could be implemented quickly and cheaply. One concept is known as stratospheric aerosol insertion. A primer:

How It Works
Military planes (or helium balloons) spray the stratosphere with sulfur gases, which disperse and oxidize. The particles scatter back into space some of the sunlight that would have been absorbed by the planet's surface. As more sunlight is deflected, the planet cools. It's like an artificial version of an erupting volcano.

The Bottom Line
No major technological innovation would be needed, and, according to the Council on Foreign Relations, one -kilogram of sulfur could offset the effect of several hundred thousand kilograms of carbon dioxide. Potential downsides: regional ozone depletion, shifts in weather patterns, drought.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/224595

[vegaspilot03]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/224595

lol, try and cure one problem and you get two new problems, our government doesnt learn.

[FrankRep]

A list of CFR affiliated companies to Boycott
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=206912



http://www.usatownhall.org/assets/images/autogen/a_Book-The_Shadows_of_Power.jpg (http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/books/shadows-of-power.html)

The Shadows of Power:
The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline
by James Perloff

http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/books/shadows-of-power.html



Does America have a hidden oligarchy? Is U.S. foreign policy run by a closed shop? What is the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations)? It began in 1921 as a front organization for J.P. Morgan and Company. By World War II it had acquired unrivaled influence on American foreign policy. Hundreds of U.S. government administrators and diplomats have been drawn from its ranks - regardless of which party has occupied the White House. But what does the Council on Foreign Relations stand for? Why do the major media avoid discussing it? What has been its impact on America's past - and what is it planning for the future? (2008, 272pp, pb)



Ron Paul Has the Council on Foreign Relations Worried
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=209210

Hillary Clinton Lets the CFR Cat Out of the Bag
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=200251

Council on Foreign Relations: Forget Privacy, We Need to Spy More
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=206911

CFR Pushes Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=191460

CFR President, Richard Haass, calls for the End of National Sovereignty of Nations
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=197325

Rick Warren, the Council on Foreign Relations, and Barack Obama
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=197150


Council On Foreign Relations
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/foreign-policy/1462


The Council on Foreign Relations and their influence over the Media

YouTube - The CFR Controls The Media! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-FuaXvxWmQ)

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Noooo, then we will have black clouds, and the robots will use our thermal energy to power themselves!

[PatriotOne]

http://www.newsweek.com/id/224595

Can we all now stop debating the mere existance of Chemtrails now?

Here's what a heavy Chemtrail spraying day looks like in my area. It causes a grey halo, rimmed with a rainbow, around the sun. After personally observing what is probably more than 100 days (in the past 3 yrs) of chemtrailing by plane, it does make for cooler days in my area by blocking the sun's rays. They create not necessarily clouds, but more of a heavy haze. Starts out with REALLY long looking contrails, which spread out and create the haze for as far as the eye can see.

What you can see here is the new chemtrails that were sprayed and haven't spread out yet and the old one's that have already spread and created a haze. Note the grey halo surrounding the sun. It doesn't show up well in the pic but there was a really colorful rainbow surrounding it. These pics is representative of what a Chemtrail day looks like.

Sun Halo pic

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e198/Yekt40/Kennewick%20Chemtrails/241_416520Sun20Halo.jpg

Colorful "sundogs" are very common during a heavy Chemtrail day also:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e198/Yekt40/Kennewick%20Chemtrails/KennewickSundog.jpg

[FrankRep]

Conspiracy Theory NO MORE - It's REAL!

[dannno]

...according to the Council on Foreign Relations, [using a method called stratospheric aerosol insertion] one -kilogram of sulfur could offset the effect of several hundred thousand kilograms of carbon dioxide. Potential downsides: regional ozone depletion, shifts in weather patterns, drought.


Game, set match for Alex Jones.

Anti-chemtrailers can eat it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6JPrNHnRVZI/SW5WXZh6soI/AAAAAAAAC9E/zPAPSK8gqJo/s400/eat-crow.jpg

[Original_Intent]

Hello law of unintended consequences.

[FrankRep]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_sulfate_aerosols_%28geoengineering%2 9

Stratospheric sulfate aerosols (geoengineering)

Wikipedia

The ability of stratospheric sulfate aerosols to create a global dimming effect has made them a possible candidate for use in geoengineering projects to limit the effect and impact of climate change due to rising levels of greenhouse gases. Delivery of precursor sulfide gases such as hydrogen sulfide (H2S) by artillery, aircraft and balloons has been proposed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_sulfate_aerosols_%28geoengineering%2 9

[LittleLightShining]

Conspiracy Theory NO MORE - It's REAL!




Anti-chemtrailers can eat it.



:)

[youngbuck]

Just because a contrail doesn't dissipate quickly, doesn't mean it's a chemtrail. There's really no way in knowing which contrail is contaminated/spiked/infected, and which ones aren't.

I think it's safe to say that the majority of contrails aren't chemtrails.

[pcosmar]

I think it's safe to say that the majority of contrails aren't chemtrails.

Is that just your feeling? Or do you have some evidence to back that? :p

[Original_Intent]

Is that just your feeling? Or do you have some evidence to back that? :p

I saw a lot of chemtrails the other day and was very suspicious, but by the time they had settled to earth I got a really calm feeling that I was just being paranoid and that there was no need to worry and everything was all right. Did I say chemtrails I mean contrails...
;)

[youngbuck]

Is that just your feeling? Or do you have some evidence to back that? :p

Yes, it's just how I feel. The only evidence I got is that I have seen many contrails from passenger airliners that will not dissipate quickly. The fact that they don't dissipate doesn't mean they are a chemtrail (lots of atmospheric conditions dictate the rate of dissipation for contrails). I find it unlikely that when you see your typical passenger airliner leaving behind a lingering contrail that it is spiked with something that would define it as a chemtrail.

[RideTheDirt]

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,003,186.PN.&OS=PN/5,003,186&RS=PN/5,003,186



United States Patent 5,003,186

The greenhouse gases are typically in the earth's stratosphere at an altitude of seven to thirteen kilometers. This suggests that the particle seeding should be done at an altitude on the order of 10 kilometers. The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year

the patent also lists a bunch of chemicals.

[ResistTemptation]

Anyone can find, with fairly accurate certainty, whether what they are seeing is chemtrails or "persistent contrails" by looking up the atmospheric soundings of the area over their skies. Persistent contrails are contrails that do not dissipate but rather fan out and seed clouds. Chemtrails generally look similar. The trick is that persistent contrails require relatively extreme environments that are not common such as very high relative humidity (75%+) and very low temperature (below -40 deg C) and may be looked up in soundings logs. The altitudes where these conditions are met are also extreme, usually 29,000+. This website has some good guidelines to help you find out what you are seeing:

http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/spreading.html

[youngbuck]

Anyone can find, with fairly accurate certainty, whether what they are seeing is chemtrails or "persistent contrails" by looking up the atmospheric soundings of the area over their skies. Persistent contrails are contrails that do not dissipate but rather fan out and seed clouds. Chemtrails generally look fairly similar. The trick is that persistent contrails require relatively extreme environments that are not common such as very high relative humidity (75%+) and very low temperature (below -40 deg C) and may be looked up in soundings logs. The altitudes where these conditions are met are also extreme, usually 29,000+. This website has some good guidelines to help you find out what you are seeing:

http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/spreading.html (http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/spreading.html)

In that case there are TONS of chemtrails in the Denver area. This is a dry, semi-arid environment, and 75% humidity anywhere around here is very rare.

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Hello law of unintended consequences.

No, I think these assholes know enough real science to understand that this would potentially push the planet over the edge into a new Ice Age. That would mean far more control of the populace for them since it would precipitate the collapse of the US Grain Belt due to extreme cold. ALOT of people are going to starve to death if this shit becomes reality. The fucking Enviro-morons screaming about Warming need to get their heads out of their asses and realise that Cooling, not Warming, is what will boot us off the evolutionary ladder.

[ResistTemptation]

In that case there are TONS of chemtrails in the Denver area. This is a dry, semi-arid environment, and 75% humidity anywhere around here is very rare.

What I mean is that all of these conditions must be met in order to get lasting trails. The only place these conditions exist around here is at very high altitudes. When it is 75% relative humidity at the surface, it may be only 15% high up in the sky. So it is likely what you saw is part of an already existing geoengineering experiment. :eek:

[mcgraw_wv]

Interestingly enough, I just saw a lunar halo here in Jacksonville a few days ago, never seen on in my life.

Has me feeling awful odd that I come here not a few days later and see a poster claiming it's the cause of something else... Very odd.

I read that the Halo are caused by ice crystals in the atmosphere, the night I saw it, it was a super hazy night in the sky, not at ground level.

[Zippyjuan]

Can we all now stop debating the mere existance of Chemtrails now?

Here's what a heavy Chemtrail spraying day looks like in my area. It causes a grey halo, rimmed with a rainbow, around the sun. After personally observing what is probably more than 100 days (in the past 3 yrs) of chemtrailing by plane, it does make for cooler days in my area by blocking the sun's rays. They create not necessarily clouds, but more of a heavy haze. Starts out with REALLY long looking contrails, which spread out and create the haze for as far as the eye can see.

What you can see here is the new chemtrails that were sprayed and haven't spread out yet and the old one's that have already spread and created a haze. Note the grey halo surrounding the sun. It doesn't show up well in the pic but there was a really colorful rainbow surrounding it. These pics is representative of what a Chemtrail day looks like.

Sun Halo pic



Colorful "sundogs" are very common during a heavy Chemtrail day also:



The halos and rainbows are caused by ice prarticles in the atmosphere. Sometimes you can see a halo around the moon on a seemingly clear night for the same reason- ice crystals in the air.

The only way you can prove that any of these photos (or any chamtrails) are actually chemtrails is to take a sample of the trail and analyze its content and compare it to normal air at that altitude. Does anybody have any scientific testing of trails for their content?

How long contrails last depends on the winds, humidity, and temperature at the altitude they are formed. These can be extremely different from what the are at ground level. Since the air is less dense at higher altitudes it takes less moisture to achieve the same level of relative humidity than compared to at lower altitudes (ie on the ground) which makes it easier to form clouds or visible contrails. This is why you don't see them as often the closer you get to the ground.

If there actually are chemrails, I have a few questions.
1) What is the purpose of the spraying?
2) What are they putting into the chemtrails (chemicals)?
3) Are they using enough of this substance to have the desired result?
4) Has anybody actuall measured the content of any of these "chemtrails" (and I don't mean things found at ground level- there is no proof of the source of any ground found items or compounds) or are you just going by visual observations?