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12-03-2009, 12:31 PM
Researcher: NASA hiding climate data (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/researcher-says-nasa-hiding-climate-data/)

Washington Times
December 3, 2009

The fight over global warming science is about to cross the Atlantic with a U.S. researcher poised to sue NASA, demanding release of the same kind of climate data that has landed a leading British center in hot water over charges it skewed its data.

Chris Horner, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said NASA has refused for two years to provide information under the Freedom of Information Act that would show how the agency has shaped its climate data and would explain why the agency has repeatedly had to correct its data going as far back as the 1930s.

"I assume that what is there is highly damaging," Mr. Horner said. "These guys are quite clearly bound and determined not to reveal their internal discussions about this."

The numbers matter. Under pressure in 2007, NASA recalculated its data and found that 1934, not 1998, was the hottest year in its records for the contiguous 48 states. NASA later changed that data again, and now 1998 and 2006 are tied for first, with 1934 slightly cooler.

Mr. Horner, a noted global warming skeptic and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Environmentalism, wants a look at the data and the discussions that went into those changes. He said he's given the agency until the end of the year to comply or else he'll sue to compel the information's release.

His fight mirrors one in Europe that has sprung up over the the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit in the UK after thousands of e-mails from the center were obtained and appear to show researchers shaving their data to make it conform to their expectation, and show efforts to try to drive global warming skeptics out of the conversation.

The center's chief has stepped down pending an investigation into the e-mails.

The center has also had to acknowledge in response to a freedom of information request under British law that it tossed out much of the raw data that it used to draw up the temperature models that have underpinned much of the science behind global warming.

Mr. Horner suspects the same sort of data-shaving has happened at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), another leading global warming research center.

Mark Hess, public affairs director for the Goddard Space Flight Center which runs the GISS laboratory, said they are working on Mr. Horner's request, though he couldn't say why they have taken so long.

"We're collecting the information and will respond with all the responsive relevant information to all of his requests," Mr. Hess said. "It's just a process you have to go through where you have to collect data that's responsive."

He said he was unfamiliar with the British controversy and couldn't say whether NASA was susceptible to the same challenges to its data. The White House has dismissed the British e-mails as irrelevant.

"Several thousand scientists have come to the conclusion that climate change is happening. I don't think that's anything that is, quite frankly, among most people, in dispute anymore," press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters this week.

But Republicans on Capitol Hill say the revelations deserve a congressional investigation. Republican leaders also sent a letter to Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson Wednesday telling her she should withdraw a series of EPA rules until the global warming science can be better substantiated. For now, climate scientists are rallying around the British researchers.

Michael Mann, a scientist at Penn State University who is under fire for his involvement in the British e-mail exchanges, said the e-mails' release was timed to skunk up next week's U.N. global warming summit in Copenhagen. Mr. Obama is planning to attend.

"They've taken scientists' words and phrases and quoted them out of context, completely misrepresenting what they were saying," Mr. Mann told AccuWeather.com in an interview, calling it a "manufactured controversy."

NASA's GISS was forced to update its data in 2007 after questions were raised by Steve McIntyre, who runs ClimateAudit.com.

GISS had initially listed the warmest years as 1998, 1934, 2006, 1921 and 1931. After Mr. McIntyre's questions GISS rejiggered the list and 1934 was warmest, followed by 1998, 1921, 2006 and then 1931. But since then, the list has been rewritten again so it now runs 1998, 2006, 1934, 1921, 1999.

The institute blamed a "minor data processing error" for the changes but says it doesn't make much difference since the top three years remain in a "statistical tie" either way.

Mr. Horner said he's seeking the data itself, but he also wants to see the chain of e-mails from scientists discussing the changes.

The Freedom of Information Act requires agencies to respond to requests within 20 days. Mr. Horner says he's never received an official acknowledgement of his three separate FOIA requests, but has received e-mails showing the agency is aware of them.

He said he has provided NASA with a notice of intent to sue under FOIA, but said he also hopes members of Congress get involved and demand the information be released.

NASA and CRU data are considered the backbone of much of the science that suggests the earth is warming due to manmade greenhouse gas emissions. NASA argues its data suggests this decade has been the warmest on record.

On the other hand, data from the University of Alabama-Huntsville suggests temperatures have been relatively flat for most of this decade.


12-03-2009, 12:35 PM
this just keeps getting better and better. :)

12-03-2009, 12:40 PM

So much for 'dispassionate scientific inquiry'.

Makes one wonder, has there been politicized scientific manipulation impacting other areas of
'research' to drive legislative & other goals? Several potentially come to mind.

12-03-2009, 12:40 PM
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12-03-2009, 12:41 PM

So much for 'dispassionate scientific inquiry'.

Makes one wonder, has there been politicized scientific manipulation impacting other areas of
'research' to drive legislative & other goals? Several potentially come to mind.

can you say marijuana?

12-03-2009, 12:42 PM
Who'da thought NASA would fudge data?

12-03-2009, 12:43 PM
It's about time people stopped worshiping scientists as gods. I know it's not as easy as watching american idol and eating fritos, but people need to think for themselves.

12-03-2009, 12:46 PM
I orginally heard the readjustments were attributed to some Y2K bug for data for Data in 1999 and older. A broader agenda? Intresting.

12-04-2009, 07:49 AM
NASA Faces FOI Lawsuit Over Climate Data (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2462-nasa-faces-foi-lawsuit-over-climate-data)

Rebecca Terrell | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
03 December 2009

A leading climate researcher is planning to sue NASA for withholding information about climate-change data used to establish environmental regulations. Christopher Horner, Senior Fellow with the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), has notified (http://pajamasmedia.com/files/2009/11/DOC112409-001.pdf) NASA and its Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC) that he will sue in late December if that agency does not fulfill Freedom of Information (FOI) requests Horner placed in 2007.

Stephen Dinan of The Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/nasa-embroiled-in-climate-dispute/) reports the FOI requests deal with repeated changes NASA has made to average temperature readings. Within the past three years, NASA has reported four different years as having the hottest temperatures on record: 1998 was first replaced by 1934, only to be switched again a short time later by a tie between 1998 and 2006. NASA originally recalculated the numbers in response to pressure from Steve McIntyre with ClimateAudit.org (http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2049), who questioned disparities between official NASA tabulations and raw data reported by individual weather stations.

Dinan reports Horner's prediction that "what is there is highly damaging. These guys are quite clearly bound and determined not to reveal their internal discussions about this." According to Dinan, NASA spokesman Mark Hess says the agency is collecting "responsive, relevant" information to answer Horner's requests. Hess could not explain why NASA has taken so long to provide the records. The FOI Act allows up to 30 days for agencies to respond.

Horner fears the same data tampering has occurred at NASA as that reported to have happened in "ClimateGate (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2377-ipcc-researchers-admit-global-warming-fraud)," a recent scandal involving hacked e-mails from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia in England. The correspondence suggests researchers illegally concealed data requested through FOI laws in Britain, and CRU Director Phil Jones has temporarily stepped down (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2454-scientist-steps-down-in-climategate-investigation) during an independent investigation into the matter. Penn State University has launched its own inquiry into the ClimateGate role played by one of its professors, Michael Mann. The CRU data, just like NASA's information, is some of the most influential in environmental policy-making decisions on both domestic and international fronts.

In light of ClimateGate, CEI has also filed an emergency petition (http://cei.org/rcandtestimony/2009/12/02/amended-petition-epa-proposed-endangerment-finding-greenhouse-gases) with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to postpone regulatory provisions in the Clean Air Act until a thorough investigation is complete. The petition takes particular aim at regulations regarding the EPA's "Endangerment Finding" that greenhouse gas emissions endanger public health and welfare. CEI General Counsel Sam Kazman explained in a press release (http://cei.org/news-release/2009/12/02/cei-demands-epa-stop-plans-regulate-greenhouse-gases-wake-climategate-fraud) the EPA has based many of its regulatory proposals on data made suspect by the CRU e-mails. Kazman pointed out that since the incident was “serious enough to cause the departure of the director of the Climatic Research Unit, then it also justifies EPA's reopening its proceeding." Myron Ebell, CEI Director of Energy and Global Warming Policy, added, "The EPA needs to take another look at the dubious scientific case for global warming alarmism underlying their proposed regulation."

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Climategate: George Monbiot's Lament (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2423-climategate-george-monbiots-lament)

Congress Launches Climategate Investigation (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2415-congress-launches-climategate-investigation)

IPCC Researchers Admit Global Warming Fraud (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2377-ipcc-researchers-admit-global-warming-fraud)

Climategate: E-mail Scandal Could Melt Copenhagen Plans (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2383-climategate-e-mail-scandal-could-melt-copenhagen-plans)


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