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SelfTaught
12-01-2009, 10:09 PM
A lot of discussion on this forum is based on a belief that most Americans are stuck in the socialist, conservative, left-right paradigm. After reading about Obama's speech today, it is pretty apparent that the federal government is just one big circus. It's an obvious conclusion to most people that still have a spec of common sense.

I've come to the realization that most Americans are not misinformed. They are simply uninformed, as in, they just don't give a fuck. A larger percentage of Americans can tell you more items on the McDonald's $1.00 menu than they can the members of Obama's administration and key members of congress and the senate. It's a joke. Have a conversation about economics, foreign policy, or politics in general with the average American and they will have no clue what you're talking about. All they care about is Dancing with the Stars, celebrity gossip, shopping for the latest gadgets, sports, going out to bars and nightclubs, and talking about dumb shit that absolutely nobody cares about.

It's not about changing beliefs. The bigger step to advancing liberty is getting people to simply engage the system that surrounds them intellectually.

America is doomed.

ramallamamama
12-01-2009, 10:15 PM
If people could choose between world peace or giving up their TV remote controls, nothing would change. I blame TV, then the education system.

Original_Intent
12-01-2009, 10:26 PM
TV and TV advertising - people just care about getting their share of stuff and having their basic needs met. Other than that they can't be bothered.

The victory of materialism. Now if we wanted to get people involved we would come up with something pithy like "Those who value their big screen TV's more than liberty will end up with neither liberty or big screens". We would have a ten-fold growth in the liberty movement in a week.

ScoutsHonor
12-01-2009, 10:45 PM
The major media has created a completely false reality that has lulled the public into thinking things are OK.

What a massive joke has been played on America.

constituent
12-01-2009, 11:03 PM
Where ya been?

Here's the thing though. It's not that people are either uninformed or misinformed, it's that their entire way of looking at the world is backwards. It does not matter how much information you provide them with, nor how much misinformation you try to swat down.

It is as if everyone is viewing the world through a mirror. They may be able to reach for objects, ideas, etc., but that's where it all breaks down. And the more directions you provide, the more text you leave them with to translate in reverse.

Indy Vidual
12-01-2009, 11:30 PM
...After reading about Obama's speech today...

Obama, is that the evil guy with a big beard, or is that Osama? :confused:


A larger percentage of Americans can tell you more items on the McDonald's $1.00 menu...

I'll have a McDouble, 2 Pies, a Small Fry, and a McChicken, then I'm off to watch NFL Football. :D






EDIT: So where is the Hope For America?

ramallamamama
12-01-2009, 11:42 PM
http://ministryoftype.co.uk/images/files/matrix-pods.jpg

Reason
12-01-2009, 11:44 PM
http://ministryoftype.co.uk/images/files/matrix-pods.jpg

exactly

nottasouthernbelle
12-02-2009, 12:28 AM
A very interesting comment from “Self Taught”:

Yes as Americans we are uninformed not misinformed. Our educational system is a shame. It’s really sad when our local newspapers are written on a 4th grade literacy level. What does the thousands of dollars per student per year support after the first few years of school?
I work with children and half of them are doped up on adderall and Concentra. Even more than half many of them can point out the i Phone without hesitation. How is it that these children know the lyrics to the latest pop songs when they don’t know the state capitols? :confused:
nSb

ScoutsHonor
12-03-2009, 08:49 AM
Where ya been?

Here's the thing though. It's not that people are either uninformed or misinformed, it's that their entire way of looking at the world is backwards. It does not matter how much information you provide them with, nor how much misinformation you try to swat down.

It is as if everyone is viewing the world through a mirror. They may be able to reach for objects, ideas, etc., but that's where it all breaks down. And the more directions you provide, the more text you leave them with to translate in reverse.

:)
Hi!

Could you possibly explain what the hell the phenomenon is that you're describing. I'm not at all sure I understand...

:cool:
Thanks.

getch36
12-03-2009, 08:58 AM
The major media has created a completely false reality that has lulled the public into thinking things are OK.

What a massive joke has been played on America.
I think you hit the nail on the head...........

JenH88
12-03-2009, 09:09 AM
I've come to the realization that most Americans are not misinformed. They are simply uninformed, as in, they just don't give a fuck. A larger percentage of Americans can tell you more items on the McDonald's $1.00 menu than they can the members of Obama's administration and key members of congress and the senate. It's a joke. Have a conversation about economics, foreign policy, or politics in general with the average American and they will have no clue what you're talking about. All they care about is Dancing with the Stars, celebrity gossip, shopping for the latest gadgets, sports, going out to bars and nightclubs, and talking about dumb shit that absolutely nobody cares about.

It's not about changing beliefs. The bigger step to advancing liberty is getting people to simply engage the system that surrounds them intellectually.

America is doomed.

bingo! seriously, you have no idea how many times I've been TOLD to stop "worrying about that crap you can't change and have some fun" :rolleyes: it seriously infuriates me to no end..

ScoutsHonor
12-03-2009, 09:15 AM
I think you hit the nail on the head...........

You think so?

bobbyw24
12-03-2009, 09:18 AM
bingo! seriously, you have no idea how many times I've been TOLD to stop "worrying about that crap you can't change and have some fun" :rolleyes: it seriously infuriates me to no end..

I posted this as my Facebook status:

A sad state of affairs in America: more people know and care about Tiger Woods' "auto accident" than they do about the exploding deficit and plummeting dollar

Comments included:

I find it easier to "know" about Tiger....it's much more cut and dry.....the political issues are not: too many players, too many lies--the bottom line is buried in WORDS and more WORDS.

When it comes to the healthcare bill or the deficit, I have to read all day long to get to the point, and then another website posts a counterpoint and so on....

With Tiger it is fairly simple....he cheated on his wife and there are voicemails to prove it and he just issued a statement.

Todd
12-03-2009, 10:18 AM
bingo! seriously, you have no idea how many times I've been TOLD to stop "worrying about that crap you can't change and have some fun" :rolleyes: it seriously infuriates me to no end..

How do you answer someone that says you can't change it?

paulpwns
12-03-2009, 10:37 AM
How do you answer someone that says you can't change it?

Even Rome fell....

constituent
12-03-2009, 10:49 AM
:)
Hi!

Could you possibly explain what the hell the phenomenon is that you're describing. I'm not at all sure I understand...

:cool:
Thanks.

I don't think it's been defined yet...
:) :D

Ever try to cut your own hair in the mirror? If so, you understand... (You've got the clippers, you need the scissors and they're just over there... over there.... over there... uhhhh, n/m, wrong hand.)

edit to add:

Think stereoisomers

constituent
12-03-2009, 10:50 AM
How do you answer someone that says you can't change it?

"that may be, but personally I refuse to be changed by it!"

Dieseler
12-03-2009, 01:05 PM
bingo! seriously, you have no idea how many times I've been TOLD to stop "worrying about that crap you can't change and have some fun" :rolleyes: it seriously infuriates me to no end..

Oh boy..
My Dad's exact words were "Stop worrying about all of this stuff and just live your life. Everything is going to be OK."

Misinformed by the same people that print our money, run our government (The Entire World ) and report the faction based and biased editorial that passes for news by our modern day main stream media.
Uninformed for lack of a reason to care or know the difference between truth and lies. This is changing rapidly but not nearly fast enough to save us from what we got coming.
From Modernism to Feudalism will be a best seller one day.
:(

SelfTaught
12-03-2009, 02:51 PM
How do you answer someone that says you can't change it?

This is how I answer: "I can't change it because of motherfuckers like YOU!!!"

Actually, I don't say that, I just think it in my head. I get angry a lot. I almost spontaneously combusted during the 2008 presidential election when I heard my liberal coworkers say, "I love how Obama wants to bring real change to this country." You retards!!! But of course, that's a case of people being misinformed not uninformed. Both piss me off though.

torchbearer
12-03-2009, 02:52 PM
misinformed and uninformed.

ScoutsHonor
12-03-2009, 04:18 PM
I don't think it's been defined yet...
:) :D

Ever try to cut your own hair in the mirror? If so, you understand... (You've got the clippers, you need the scissors and they're just over there... over there.... over there... uhhhh, n/m, wrong hand.)

edit to add:

Think stereoisomers

Very interesting. I'm workin' on it.:eek::)

(For starters:
1) Things 'are not where one expects them to be' )

;););)

Grimnir Wotansvolk
12-03-2009, 04:34 PM
Most people have free-thought abused out of them before they're old enough to write